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Post  long hair Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:40 pm

the scene is fake , the covens you see in a TV are empty . people die because they have another diseases and doctors register them as corona victims .
a lot of people who have disease in their kidney ,heart and lungs ,and another things like diabetic are received no care during stupid corona measures ,doctors force them to be isolated with less care thats what increase death numbers during these time .i think all of them registered as a corona cases.
old people who live alone would have a very hard time during stupid isolation time thats also could increase death numbers among oldies .
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Post  CausticSymmetry Sat Jul 18, 2020 3:15 am

Directo wrote:
CausticSymmetry wrote:The powers-that be, controlled by WHO (World Hoax Organization) and Centers for Disease Creation (CDC) are for-profit entities under the guise of "do-good", but are quasi-militarily organizations who are financially motivated.
China had everything to lose this Covid problem. And China has its hands on the WHO, so it makes no sense that they would go create that kind of hoax.
China is even hiding the number of deaths.

If viruses don not cause diseases, what the explanation behind measles, influenza, smallpox, and herpes ? Something is causing these things. Why first going to think it's something else that we don't know, when -apparently-, we have found something called "virus" ? What's the logic behind that ?
These diseases exist since a while now. And some have their own symptoms, like herpes.  If we can't come up with a clear explanation about these, why going to think viruses don't exist ?
Is there, for example, an ounce of evidence that herpes would be caused by something else ?


This was covered in previous posts (yes measles is not a virus), and the rest are also not based on viruses.

https://immortalhair.forumotion.com/t12953-why-can-t-we-exterminate-viruses-from-the-face-of-the-earth

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Post  shaftless Sat Jul 18, 2020 3:33 am

That's what I don't understand too. Why the big disbelief in the possible existence of something as simple as a virus. We all accept bacteria even if we can't see them with our eyes. Why not viruses? Will it ever be possible to believe in them? A lot of people already do. In fact we have even isolated the novel covid one terrorizing us at the moment. China, Italy, Australia, and even Canada have all isolated and grown it in labs. No big deal, really.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/coronavirus-covid-19-virus-isolate-canada-scientists-mutations-strains-a9399226.html

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Post  CausticSymmetry Sat Jul 18, 2020 8:39 am

Notice the language, has mutated...translation, a change in morphology or, they cannot find an identical match.

Beyond just isolating it, has to be grown in a pure culture (without antibiotics), so far that has not been done.

As for measles (translate this into English)

https://anonhq.com/anti-vaxxer-biologist-stefan-lanka-bets-100k-measles-isnt-virus-wins-german-federal-supreme-court/

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Post  Directo Sat Jul 18, 2020 9:50 am

How would you explain cases where people get herpes after kissing or having sex with their boyfriend/girlfriend then ?

The common cold is caused by a virus, right ? Why do I get it then ? What would be the theory being this ? And why would I get it only during cold times ?

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Post  CausticSymmetry Sat Jul 18, 2020 3:23 pm

Directo wrote:How would you explain cases where people get herpes after kissing or having sex with their boyfriend/girlfriend then ?

The common cold is caused by a virus, right ? Why do I get it then ? What would be the theory being this ? And why would I get it only during cold times ?

When we've heard information from endless sources our entire life, we just assume it's truth...however as always, it's simply not profitable to tell the honest truth, there's a medical cartel that wants to thrive on our ignorance.

Herpes (zoster), urticaria, eczema, psoriasis and other skin disorders are always caused by a nutrient and/or toxin, so these sort of skin eruptions are one attempt for the body to deal with the problem.

A common cold is not caused by a virus, it's the body eliminating waste. So why the cold weather factor is one I get a lot, it's a combination of barometric pressure, which increases the concentration gradient of pathogens. Also, when vitamin D making UVB is at it's lowest point, lower levels of anti-microbial peptides.

We are smothered in a virtual sea of toxins to a point where it's nearly impossible to know what they are.


Arsenic compounds among just hundreds can create an exudation, and/or toxic eruption via herpes reaction. Many here have heard of people who "acquired" herpes with no sexual history, so then how did they 'get' it?


People, including scientists have been hoodwinked by lies - This video explains the germ theory fallacies:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JAYsiN-368&feature=youtu.be

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Post  Directo Sat Jul 18, 2020 5:17 pm

Herpes (zoster), urticaria, eczema, psoriasis and other skin disorders are always caused by a nutrient and/or toxin
What nutrient for example ? I'm opened to any theories but why accepting the nutrient/toxin theory and not the virus one ? Are there some strong studies hinting that something is wrong in the virus theory ?
Why we do focus on the toxin theory when, first, toxin is a vague term; and when (at least me) we never hear or come across strong hints or evidences supporting that theory ?
For example, for some vitamins, we do find these. But for the toxin one, I haven't seen nothing really heavy and convincing yet.


A common cold is not caused by a virus, it's the body eliminating waste.
What is "waste" in this case exactly ? What are the sources hinting at that instead of a virus ?


it's a combination of barometric pressure, which increases the concentration gradient of pathogens.
What would be the pathogens in this case ? Because a pathogen is anything that can produce disease. So if it's not virus, nor germ, what's left ? And in that possible list of choices, what are the ones which can react with barometric pressure. This has to be demonstrated too.

Why animals don't get cold symptoms like us too ? I've never seen a dog or a hamster with his nose runny as hell and coughing every 5 minutes like we do.

Arsenic compounds among just hundreds can create an exudation, and/or toxic eruption via herpes reaction. Many here have heard of people who "acquired" herpes with no sexual history, so then how did they 'get' it?
Yes but then how do you explain the recurrence on those herpes people ? They always get it when they are "stressed". (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1b1-ygNg_hc)
And if it's caused by a toxin, it should be easy to get rid of it, right ? But it seems it's not.

Another thing too (depending of the view that viruses do exist or not): The body doesn't get rid of the herpes virus. But other viruses, it can. Why that ? What would be the lies or the explanation behind that ?

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Post  Directo Sat Jul 18, 2020 11:46 pm

Fact check: Viruses harmful to humans are proven to exist
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-harmful-viruses/fact-check-viruses-harmful-to-humans-are-proven-to-exist-idUSKBN23335V

No, German ‘supreme court’ didn’t rule that ‘measles doesn’t exist’
https://africacheck.org/fbcheck/no-german-supreme-court-didnt-rule-that-measles-doesnt-exist/

A vaccine denier bet $100,000 the measles virus ‘doesn’t exist.’ He lost.
https://www.latimes.com/business/hiltzik/la-fi-mh-a-vaccine-denier-20150320-column.html

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Post  CausticSymmetry Sun Jul 19, 2020 4:54 am

Have you not read this?

https://www.drrobertyoung.com/post/dismantling-the-viral-theory

Plenty of past arguments and examples of which toxins. However, if you cite mainstream arguments, you will look at their references and find nothing of value.

Fact check the fact checkers and you'll find little substance to their arguments.

Recurrence of herpes (shedding of material in places like the spinal ganglia), it's not expected for people to rid of something they continually expose themselves to.

More on herpes sources:

click on the link and scroll to this title: THE PRODUCTION OF SO-CALLED VIRUS DISEASES
AND "VIRUS" INCLUSIONS BY POISONS

http://www.wellwithin1.com/scobpois.htm

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Post  Dudard Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:20 am

The establishment lies to us constantly people eat it up and it becomes difficult to discuss ideas without getting criticized. This is what's known as "Cancel Culture." https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=494&v=h8upEg-bEJ8&feature=emb_logo&fbclid=IwAR29Um1QAIwUiNCLR1FNLszmhTqzvcUWqvaFmNeTQCt4YbtADs2VyyUtPB8

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Post  Directo Sun Jul 19, 2020 1:42 pm

CausticSymmetry wrote:Have you not read this?

https://www.drrobertyoung.com/post/dismantling-the-viral-theory

[/size][/b]http://www.wellwithin1.com/scobpois.htm
Gonna read them. But before how do you explain that then ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ppzff3-Trvo&feature=youtu.be&t=387
She said, she tested for herpes before getting it, and she was negative. And now she has herpes.

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Post  shaftless Mon Jul 20, 2020 3:01 am

Catching a cold is a simple example too. You can be normal without feeling ill at all up to that point and suddenly bang...you've got the sniffles and a scratchy throat and then sneezing and coughing and headaches. Sometimes a major cough that comes with a bronchitis infection. It wasn't there before and you're not doing or eating anything different. I even caught a cold in the middle of summer years ago. I was in a store talking to a sales rep when he suddenly sneezed on me. I couldn't believe it. I felt the spray on my face and wondered why the fuck didn't he turn away first. He didn't even try to block it. But it was pretty sudden. Usually you feel a sneeze coming on but maybe not all the time. Anyway, after I got sneezed on I came down with a bad cold in fucking July or August. It was hot outside and I was laid up in bed for a week. I don't know how you can explain that any other way but that there was a transfer of something. My "terrain" felt fine up to that moment. I wasn't drinking or eating any contaminated food or breathing polluted air that should have given me some kind of symptoms like queezy stomach or dizziness or headaches or something noticeable. No. I felt completely normal. Why did I get sick so suddenly after that sneeze from that person? And it went away like a cold normally goes away with no medication or change in lifestyle. Obviously there was an "invasion" of some kind that didn't last very long. If it was from a sick terrain then I should be sick ALL the time especially if I continue doing whatever I was doing to make my terrain sick.

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Post  Nuada Mon Jul 20, 2020 8:01 am

Directo wrote:Fact check: Viruses harmful to humans are proven to exist
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-harmful-viruses/fact-check-viruses-harmful-to-humans-are-proven-to-exist-idUSKBN23335V

No, German ‘supreme court’ didn’t rule that ‘measles doesn’t exist’
https://africacheck.org/fbcheck/no-german-supreme-court-didnt-rule-that-measles-doesnt-exist/

A vaccine denier bet $100,000 the measles virus ‘doesn’t exist.’ He lost.
https://www.latimes.com/business/hiltzik/la-fi-mh-a-vaccine-denier-20150320-column.html

Actually the vaccine denier took it to appeal and won in 2017.
https://anonhq.com/anti-vaxxer-biologist-stefan-lanka-bets-100k-measles-isnt-virus-wins-german-federal-supreme-court/
Turns out those 6 studies which were submitted didn't peform any control experiments.

This wasn't covered by the mainstream media. I don't know why.

shaftless wrote:Catching a cold is a simple example too. You can be normal without feeling ill at all up to that point and suddenly bang...you've got the sniffles and a scratchy throat and then sneezing and coughing  and headaches. Sometimes a major cough that comes with a bronchitis infection. It wasn't there before and you're not doing or eating anything different. I even caught a cold in the middle of summer years ago. I was in a store talking to a sales rep when he suddenly sneezed on me. I couldn't believe it. I felt the spray on my face and wondered why the fuck didn't he turn away first. He didn't even try to block it. But it was pretty sudden. Usually you feel a sneeze coming on but maybe not all the time. Anyway, after I got sneezed on I came down with a bad cold in fucking July or August. It was hot outside and I was laid up in bed for a week. I don't know how you can explain that any other way but that there was a transfer of something. My "terrain" felt fine up to that moment. I wasn't drinking or eating any contaminated food or breathing polluted air that should have given me some kind of symptoms like queezy stomach or dizziness or headaches or something noticeable. No. I felt completely normal. Why did I get sick so suddenly after that sneeze from that person? And it went away like a cold normally goes away with no medication or change in lifestyle. Obviously there was an "invasion" of some kind that didn't last very long. If it was from a sick terrain then I should be sick ALL the time especially if I continue doing whatever I was doing to make my terrain sick.
That's pretty interesting. That has never happened to me though, at least not in the recent history.
I don't recall any instance where I transmitted the disease from someone sick.
Most times I got sick, I either was under alot of stress, consumed lots of alcholol, didn't dress up to the weather, didn't sleep properly, used public transportation, and didn't wash my hands before I ate/drink or a combination of these.

But usually the trigger for me is alcohol and  being exposed to cold without proper clothing, which usually happens when I got out. I don't do that as often anymore and I don't get sick.

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Post  CausticSymmetry Mon Jul 20, 2020 2:01 pm

Haven't been sick in eons, and the last time was when I had zero sleep due to stressful situation.

The secret?  enough D3, enough selenium, magnesium, and if "something" seems off, then enough vitamin C.

What do all of these things have in common?  They all boost the bodies ability to remove toxins.

For all of eternity, since human kind have tested the reasons for wipe out of civilizations...it was never a virus
for the reason, the real culprit is quality of water, nutrients, sewage/waste disposal and use or not use of toxins.

The fall of Rome:

https://phys.org/news/2017-10-archaeologists-poisoning-affected-roman-empire.html

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Post  Nuada Wed Jul 22, 2020 12:54 am

CausticSymmetry wrote:Haven't been sick in eons, and the last time was when I had zero sleep due to stressful situation.

The secret?  enough D3, enough selenium, magnesium, and if "something" seems off, then enough vitamin C.

What do all of these things have in common?  They all boost the bodies ability to remove toxins.

For all of eternity, since human kind have tested the reasons for wipe out of civilizations...it was never a virus
for the reason, the real culprit is quality of water, nutrients, sewage/waste disposal and use or not use of toxins.

The fall of Rome:

https://phys.org/news/2017-10-archaeologists-poisoning-affected-roman-empire.html

Very interesting topic but the article is not complete.

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Post  CausticSymmetry Wed Jul 22, 2020 1:19 am

Nuada - The Fall of Rome article?

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Post  Zaphod Wed Jul 22, 2020 4:35 am

There seem to be speculations whether this was true or not, I think the chances are huge to confirm this. Romans used lead for various purpuses, including adding taste to the wine. Especially as the leadership was affected the most in ancient Rome, which is a call for a disaster in a sense.

What is less of speculation with meaningful insights of the lead pathology is a case of Ludwig Van Beethoven, who suffered hearing loss in the middle of pathology, and despite different exposures to lead through medicines and wine, he was probably also treated for syphilis with mercury. This combination contributed to some genious music, but limit it by quantities and also qualities. It is worth noting he was also he became diabetic and progressively drinking more wine to cope with hypoglycemia deficits once getting older.

https://www.downtoearth.org.in/news/beethoven-and-heavy-metal-16309


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Post  Delphine Wed Jul 22, 2020 6:12 am

Zaphod wrote:There seem to be speculations whether this was true or not, I think the chances are huge to confirm this. Romans used lead for various purpuses, including adding taste to the wine. Especially as the leadership was affected the most in ancient Rome, which is a call for a disaster in a sense.

What is less of speculation with meaningful insights of the lead pathology is a case of Ludwig Van Beethoven, who suffered hearing loss in the middle of pathology, and despite different exposures to lead through medicines and wine, he was probably also treated for syphilis with mercury. This combination contributed to some genial music, but limit it by quantities and also qualities. It is worth noting he was also he became diabetic and progressively drinking more wine to cope with hypoglycemia deficits once getting older.

https://www.downtoearth.org.in/news/beethoven-and-heavy-metal-16309



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The deafness was a real ordeal for him, both as a musician and as a sociable person.  I too lost my hearing (unknown causes), when I was seven y.o.  Too bad they didn't have cochlear
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Post  Delphine Wed Jul 22, 2020 6:31 am

Starting about 32 min., Dr. Andrew Kaufman gives his take on the "virus" which is in agreement with what CS has pointed out,
that it has never been properly isolated and purified per the scientific method, Koch's postulates.

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Post  Zaphod Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:21 am

Delphine, sorry in my native language those are closer to synonyms Smile...

Yeah, he was a mess, but I think the music really did describe his personality, and you can examine it in chronologically sense. At some point, the order was replaced with hard to resolve musical patterns, unheard for his time - that I can see the irritated or even depressed man behind searching for a ''cure'' for his own health mystery, as an adult he could no longer let it be denied.

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Post  Delphine Wed Jul 22, 2020 8:04 am

Zaphod wrote:Delphine, sorry in my native language those are closer to synonyms Smile...

Yeah, he was a mess, but I think the music really did describe his personality, and you can examine it in chronologically sense. At some point, the order was replaced with hard to resolve musical patterns, unheard for his time -  that I can see the irritated or even depressed man behind searching for a ''cure'' for his own health mystery, as an adult he could no longer let it be denied.

No big deal about the word mixup Zaphod. No need to apologize Smile

I agree, his music came from his soul, his true self. I write song lyrics myself and I had the idea of putting Beethoven's struggles in a musical. I came up with some lyrics. But I don't see
Beethoven singing Smile The songs would be from his soul.

I don't know if it is a true story but I read that after the first performance of his 7th Symphony, he heard nothing from the audience and thought they must hate the symphony.
He was crying and then he turned around and saw the ovation, everyone clapping. That would make a great scene in a movie! For all I know, it's been done...

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Post  Nuada Wed Jul 22, 2020 8:31 am

CausticSymmetry wrote:Nuada - The Fall of Rome article?
Yes the article mentions a new research project, investigating archielogical evidence for lead production, but doesn't go into the details of the findings. Maybe it is an ongoing investigation.

" It will also give us a new understanding of the long-term consequences of lead in the environment and the associated risks to human health."

The Deadly Lead project is funded by the Social Sciences and Humanities Research Council of Canada (SSHRC) Insight Development programme."

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Post  Zaphod Thu Jul 23, 2020 12:17 am

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32668870/

Abstract
In this research, we show that 5G millimeter waves could be absorbed by dermatologic cells acting like antennas, transferred to other cells and play the main role in producing Coronaviruses in biological cells. DNA is built from charged electrons and atoms and has an inductor-like structure. This structure could be divided into linear, toroid and round inductors. Inductors interact with external electromagnetic waves, move and produce some extra waves within the cells. The shapes of these waves are similar to shapes of hexagonal and pentagonal bases of their DNA source. These waves produce some holes in liquids within the nucleus. To fill these holes, some extra hexagonal and pentagonal bases are produced. These bases could join to each other and form virus-like structures such as Coronavirus. To produce these viruses within a cell, it is necessary that the wavelength of external waves be shorter than the size of the cell. Thus 5G millimeter waves could be good candidates for applying in constructing virus-like structures such as Coronaviruses (COVID-19) within cells.

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Post  Nuada Thu Jul 23, 2020 6:09 am

Zaphod wrote:https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32668870/

Abstract
In this research, we show that 5G millimeter waves could be absorbed by dermatologic cells acting like antennas, transferred to other cells and play the main role in producing Coronaviruses in biological cells. DNA is built from charged electrons and atoms and has an inductor-like structure. This structure could be divided into linear, toroid and round inductors. Inductors interact with external electromagnetic waves, move and produce some extra waves within the cells. The shapes of these waves are similar to shapes of hexagonal and pentagonal bases of their DNA source. These waves produce some holes in liquids within the nucleus. To fill these holes, some extra hexagonal and pentagonal bases are produced. These bases could join to each other and form virus-like structures such as Coronavirus. To produce these viruses within a cell, it is necessary that the wavelength of external waves be shorter than the size of the cell. Thus 5G millimeter waves could be good candidates for applying in constructing virus-like structures such as Coronaviruses (COVID-19) within cells.

Is this real ?

link to the full article :
https://www.biolifesas.org/biolife/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/FIORANELLI.pdf

I don't think this is legit. From the article :
"These bases could join to each other and form viruses
such as COVID-19."

Covid 19 is not a virus.

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Post  Zaphod Thu Jul 23, 2020 7:55 am

So what is it?Smile

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