Dr OFFERS $5000 FOR PROOF THAT THE CV19 EXISTS

CausticSymmetry wrote:

shaftless wrote:Ok wisenheimers!! How about the most feared virus on the face of the planet....WARTS!!!!

Same applies - Note, never had a wart. Also, there are ways to get rid of them.

Hopefully you watched the above video.

Calling us wisenheimers...does not sound to me like shaftless is really open to researching this.
Hope I am wrong.

Thanks for the AV video. He is one of my influences, and recently I started up again eating more raw meat.
I have a craving for it which I think means I need it. I don't find it hard at all to get down. Raw chicken marinated in
lemon or lime juice, honey and ginger. Lovely with peanut sauce Raw liver, I just eat plain!

LOL I was trying to be funny. I even picked a not-so-serious condition like warts and tried to make it sound ridiculously important. Adding a bit of levity to this incredibly long thread. But it looks like we will continue to agree to disagree. I did watch the video about that guy in black who blamed pandemics on radio, radar and now 5G emissions. I commented on it as well not long after that post. However I didn't watch that over 2 hour one where that guy talks about bill gates wanting to kill everyone. I might eventually...IT's OVER 2 HOURS!!! SHEESH!

https://phoreveryoung.wordpress.com/2020/04/23/the-corona-virus-is-just-a-concept-that-only-exists-on-paper/

The proof that viruses cause disease has no robust science backing it.

Where is the Proof?
Perhaps the foremost thing that should be said about HIV or for that matter any virus is that they have never been proven to be the cause of AIDS, or any human illness. Not one scientific paper exists that demonstrates it. This is also the case with Ebola, Zika and now SARS COVID-2 and 19!"

Doctors speak out. Youtube takes it down. https://www.bitchute.com/video/K9nZ1vrtmSCK/

Many years ago (1800's) there was a lot research regarding a tobacco plant sickness. Sap from a sick plant was filtered thru porcelain which was able to filter out bacteria. But strangely the filtered sap was still able to infect healthy plants. Something else smaller than a bacterium was slipping thru the porcelain. This was some of the earliest research to prove that viruses exist. A far cry compared to the research today I guess but it was still impressive. If exosomes were filtering thru why would they make the healthy plant sick? Exosomes are usually considered to be beneficial for tissue repair since they carry rna and dna and are released when damage has already occurred.

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/what-are-viruses-history-tobacco-mosaic-disease-180974480/

shaftless wrote:Many years ago (1800's) there was a lot research regarding a tobacco plant sickness. Sap from a sick plant was filtered thru porcelain which was able to filter out bacteria. But strangely the filtered sap was still able to infect healthy plants. Something else smaller than a bacterium was slipping thru the porcelain. This was some of the earliest research to prove that viruses exist. A far cry compared to the research today I guess but it was still impressive. If exosomes were filtering thru why would they make the healthy plant sick? Exosomes are usually considered to be beneficial for tissue repair since they carry rna and dna and are released when damage has already occurred.

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/what-are-viruses-history-tobacco-mosaic-disease-180974480/

tobacco itself is toxic, sounds like plants were poisoned

It's already well documented that HIV/AIDS is a complete scienticism hack job (not real science).

Now we've got this:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5716971/

Bubonic plaque, even though a bacteria transmitted by rat fleas, killed more people than any other pandemic over a span of 5 yrs (1347 - 1351). Not sure what kind of man-made energy or poisons to blame there.

If we examine the timeline ("evolution") of the viral theory, we can see how with new understanding, myths become dissolved.

https://www.drrobertyoung.com/post/dismantling-the-viral-theory

Link to PDF Study:


https://smallpdf.com/shared#st=fcbd81e5-8ea7-4f44-b842-c03143bf5116&fn=article.pdf&ct=1596086606738&tl=share-document&rf=link

@CS: If herpes is not caused by a virus, how they could end up with antiviral drugs to reduce the duration of viral shedding or even to prevent its recurrences ?
I mean, how they could do these if, in fact, it wasn't caused by a virus in the first place ? Their drugs act on something. So this 'something' must exist/happen ? What am I missing here ?

Before you gave some links where they mentioned some things which seemed to have caused herpes. What, YOU, do you think causes it ?
Are there any detailed articles about other theories on it ?

Directo wrote:@CS:  If herpes is not caused by a virus, how they could end up with antiviral drugs to reduce the duration of viral shedding or even to prevent its recurrences ?
I mean, how they could do these if, in fact, it wasn't caused by a virus in the first place ? Their drugs act on something. So this 'something' must exist/happen ? What am I missing here ?

Before you gave some links where they mentioned some things which seemed to have caused herpes. What, YOU, do you think causes it ?
Are there any detailed articles about other theories on it ?

So-called anti-virals are lousy drugs to say the least. Are they really "anti-viral?  No, that is just as description.

Either we believe in medical dogma or we do not. The medical cartel invents the terms and people buy it. 

Before I list these poisons, know that naturals work better.

CLASSIFICATION:
1. Anti-herpes virus: Idoxuridine, acyclovir, valacyclovir, famciclovir, ganciclovir, forscarnet
Except forscarnet which is an inhibitor of DNA polymerase and reverse transcriptase, others are purine and pyrimidine anlaogues.

2. Anti-retrovirus:
a. Nucleoside reverse transcriptase inhibitors (NRTIs): Zidovudine (AZT), Didanosine, Zalcitabine, Stavudine, Lamivudine, Abacavir
b. Non-nucleoside reverse transcriptase inhibitors (NNRTIs):Nevirapine, Efavirenz, Delaviridine
c. Protease inhibitors: Ritonavir, Indinavir, Nelfinavir, Saquinavir, Lopinavir

3. Anti-influenza virus: Amatidine, Rimantadine

4. Nonselective antiviral drugs: Ribavirin, Lamivudine, Interferon alpha

General Mechanism of Action of Nucleoside Analogues:
1. Taken up by cells
2. Converted by viral and cellualr enzymes to the triphosphate form
3. The triphosphate form inhibits:
a. DNA polymerase
b. Reverse transcriptase
c. RNA polymerase
4. Or it may get incorporated into growing DNA leading to abnormal proteins or breakage.

ANTI-HERPES VIRUS DRUGS:
1. Acyclovir and Valaciclovir: These are guanine analogues with antiviral activities against Herpes group only.

Mechanism of action:

Acyclovir –viral thymidine kinase–> AcycloGMP –cellular kinases–> AcycloGTP
AcycloGTP performs 2 functions:
a. Inhibits viral DNA polymerase competitively
b. Termination of DNA synthesis by incorporation into DNA

Mechanism of resistance development:
a. Reduced activity of viral thymidine kinase
b. Altered DNA polymerase

Use:
The activity of acyclovir on herpes group:
Herpes simplex type I > Herpes simplex type II > (Varicella-zoster virus = Epstein-Barr virus)
Cytomegalovirus (CMV) are practically not affected.

a. Genital Herpes simplex (type II)
b. Mucocutaneous H. simplex (type I) : remains localized to lips and gums
c. H.simplex encephalitis (type I)
d. H. simplex (type I) keratitis : because of good corneal penetration
e. Herpes zoster
f. Chickenpox

Adverse effects:
a. Topical: stinging and burning sensation
b. Oral: headache, nausea, malaise
c. Intravenous: rashes, sweating, emesis and fall in BP
d. Other toxicities:
i. Renal insufficiency (normalization on discontinuation of drug)
ii. Encephalopathy : tremors, lethargy, disorientation, hallucinations, convulsions and coma

Valaciclovir is an ester prodrug of acyclovir with improved oral bioavailability. It is the drug of choice in herpes zoster.

2. Famciclovir: It is used an alternative to acyclovir for genital or orolabial herpes and herpes zoster.

3. Ganciclovir:
a. Analogue of acyclovir
b. Active against all herpes viruses including CMV
c. CMV can develop ganciclovir resistance by mutation
d. Low oral bioavailability given I.V.
e. Drug of choice for CMV infection in immunosupressed patients (eg. AIDS) : pneumonia, colitis, retinitis

Adverse effects:
a. Bone marrow supression : leukopenia and thrombocytopenia
b. CNS effects: headache, behavioral psychosis, coma, convulsions
c. Rashes, fever, vomiting

4. Idoxuridine and Trifluridine:
a. Topical agent for Herpes keratitis
b. Triflurdine (also for CMV) is better for H.simplex II keratoconjunctivits

5. Forscarnet:
a. Direct inhibitor of DNA polymerase and reverse transcriptase
b. An inorganic pyrophosphate analogue

ADR:
a. Nephrotoxicity (Renal diabetes like condition, acute renal failure)
b. Hypocalcemia, hypokalemia and hypomagnesemia
c. Anemia
d. Tremor, convulsions
e. Phlebitis (administered i.v.)

Use:
a. CMV retinitis and other CMV infections resistant to gancyclovir
b. H.simplex and Varicella Zoster resistant to acyclovir
c. HIV

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One important note that always bears repeating, the most common causes of viral infections is from vaccines (blood contamination). 

There is no argument that a virus from a vaccine will potentially cause harm. 

It's especially difficult to remove these toxins from they body.

Because a culture medium is required to attenuate (reduce the potential virulence) and the culture medium being
animal tissue, there is a large opportunity for many vaccines to have multiple unintended viruses.

A link showing natural alternatives to hydroxychloroquine

https://www.mynaturaltreatment.com/are-there-natural-alternatives-to-hydroxychloroquine/

Probably the best natural treatment (not included in here) is intravenous chlorine dioxide. 

The basic mechanism behind defeating so-called CV-19 has nothing to do with a virus, and everything to do
with how it effects hemoglobin and iron.

CausticSymmetry wrote:One important note that always bears repeating, the most common causes of viral infections is from vaccines (blood contamination). 

There is no argument that a virus from a vaccine will potentially cause harm. 

It's especially difficult to remove these toxins from they body.

Because a culture medium is required to attenuate (reduce the potential virulence) and the culture medium being
animal tissue, there is a large opportunity for many vaccines to have multiple unintended viruses.
...

The basic mechanism behind defeating so-called CV-19 has nothing to do with a virus, and everything to do
with how it effects hemoglobin and iron.

Fauci's been talking about getting the flu vaccine. Right, just the ticket for driving up the case numbers.
(The metals like mercury and aluminum make EMF's much more problematic.)
Playing right into their vaccine "solution."
Vaccine upon vaccine for the problems caused by vaccines.
WAKE UP, WORLD!

Ok so how do you make sense of this pandemic with your proposed vaccine poisoning in the way that it happened? It first started in China and we all watched it unfold on the news. The way they built that hospital in only 10 days. It wasn't anywhere else yet. Then neighbouring countries...the middle east and Italy especially. North and south America still didn't have any cases yet. Slowly but surely it kept spreading and spreading until every country in the world came down with it. People are dying in droves. How does mercury/aluminum poisoning spread like that from vaccines? Old people died in large numbers in nursing homes. Not something you see every day. There is a nursing home not far from me where 27 oldies died in a week. How could that be from vaccine poisoning? They probably haven't had a vaccination in years.

shaftless wrote:Ok so how do you make sense of this pandemic with your proposed vaccine poisoning in the way that it happened? It first started in China and we all watched it unfold on the news. The way they built that hospital in only 10 days. It wasn't anywhere else yet. Then neighbouring countries...the middle east and Italy especially. North and south America still didn't have any cases yet. Slowly but surely it kept spreading and spreading until every country in the world came down with it. People are dying in droves. How does mercury/aluminum poisoning spread like that from vaccines? Old people died in large numbers in nursing homes. Not something you see every day. There is a nursing home not far from me where 27 oldies died in a week. How could that be from vaccine poisoning? They probably haven't had a vaccination in years.

Based on this paragraph above, have you not read all the sources cited and explanations behind the "alternative" argument for CV19?

Vaccine contamination (poisoning) is just a very small part, and this is an assumption...however what is already known is that the flu-shot alone has already been reported as a significant factor in "positive" cases.

Positive cases is hardly scientific, and only means they collected genetic material, so it's meaningless.

As for people with actual symptoms, the causes can be many....so many posts already...to summarize.

The effects of herbicides, pesticides, EMF, cyanide in the air (there is more cyanide in the air for every micro of air pollution).

All of these things cause the same problems, separation of hemoglobin from iron.

Remember SARS (is a syndrome), meaning unknown cause.

So chemical poisoning spread like crazy from China? And SARS was traced back to sick wild palm civet cats in China according to Wikipedia.

shaftless wrote:Ok so how do you make sense of this pandemic with your proposed vaccine poisoning in the way that it happened? It first started in China and we all watched it unfold on the news. The way they built that hospital in only 10 days. It wasn't anywhere else yet. Then neighbouring countries...the middle east and Italy especially. North and south America still didn't have any cases yet. Slowly but surely it kept spreading and spreading until every country in the world came down with it. People are dying in droves. How does mercury/aluminum poisoning spread like that from vaccines? Old people died in large numbers in nursing homes. Not something you see every day. There is a nursing home not far from me where 27 oldies died in a week. How could that be from vaccine poisoning? They probably haven't had a vaccination in years.

How do you know America didn't have cases back then ? Or anywhere else for that matter? They weren't testing for it, so it didn't exist.
Let's not forget that the symptoms of Covid-19 is 100% identical to flu and common cold. Early on, they probably didn't even suspect that there was something going and chalked it up to the flu season. During 2019-2020 flu season Italy had almost 4 million cases or something, like 500k a week during it's peak.

Also people in nursing homes died mostly because they weren't treated and neglected. Kind of ironic because thats the opposite of what they were/are advocating. "You go out and that person you infect can be someone's grandma". I remember some officials saying things along those lines. Good thing they took care of the old, lol.

More on vaccines predisposing us to being higher risk for symptoms.

From:
https://doctormurray.com/does-the-flu-shot-increase-covid-19-risk/?fbclid=IwAR3pUyHgdXmMl8gnLrdNWEfnKAaJUTpNx1cqlIFvD3eBXaEpzYnz9hjUC8A

"Could a new flu vaccine be partly responsible for the COVID-19 mortality rate in Italy?

In case you are not aware, the infection rate mortality rate in Italy to COVID-19 is dramatically higher. Why? Well the standard answers of an elderly population and the failure to implement social distancing soon enough just don’t explain what is happening. My colleague, Dr. Alex Vasquez, provided me with a valuable insight. In September 2019, Italy rolled out an entirely new type of influenza vaccine. This vaccine called VIQCC is different than others. Most available influenza vaccines are produced in embryonated chicken eggs. VIQCC, however, is produced from cultured animal cells rather than eggs and has more of a “boost” to the immune system as a result. VIQCC also contains four types of viruses – 2 type A viruses (H1N1 and H3N2) and 2 type B viruses.2 It looks like this “super” vaccine impacted the immune system in such a way to increase coronavirus infection through virus interference that set the stage for what happened in Italy."

And military studies show greatly increased risk from flu shot.
https://www.disabledveterans.org/2020/03/11/flu-vaccine-increases-coronavirus-risk/?fbclid=IwAR2Pni0tnwFjNbws_YTLfqCBq9GfXIHnvuf6-usLdy5UX9eFVuAQ_pNOG6E

Fauci is encouraging us all to get it.  He must know of this research.  Could it be he wants us to get sick?  And die?

Naw.  Crazy conspiracy talk.  

CS: How can they give herpes by injecting it to mice if it's not a virus ?


Full story here:  https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Richard_Huneke/publication/268228869_Animal_models_of_herpes_simplex_virus_immunity_and_pathogenesis/links/556c8b1608aeab7772231669/Animal-models-of-herpes-simplex-virus-immunity-and-pathogenesis.pdf

CausticSymmetry wrote:One important note that always bears repeating, the most common causes of viral infections is from vaccines (blood contamination).

What do you mean by blood contamination ? Contaminated by what and how ? Why it can end up contaminated when they could make something "pure" ? I mean they surely control these things ?

shaftless wrote:Ok so how do you make sense of this pandemic with your proposed vaccine poisoning in the way that it happened? It first started in China and we all watched it unfold on the news. The way they built that hospital in only 10 days. It wasn't anywhere else yet. Then neighbouring countries...the middle east and Italy especially. North and south America still didn't have any cases yet. Slowly but surely it kept spreading and spreading until every country in the world came down with it. People are dying in droves. How does mercury/aluminum poisoning spread like that from vaccines? Old people died in large numbers in nursing homes. Not something you see every day. There is a nursing home not far from me where 27 oldies died in a week. How could that be from vaccine poisoning? They probably haven't had a vaccination in years.

I want to agree with that argument. But at the same time, do we hear about flu killings every year ? Supposedly it kills as much (or little less) than the corona. Why hospitals aren't full then ? Why we never hear about this ? Why don't they stop the world economy, like now ? Why don't they close borders ?

^ Exactly. Regular flus have been around for years and have killed people for years. But not in the same amounts as the corona one. Some american states (and other countries) are restarting shutdowns again. When they relaxed things the cases started to shoot up and hospitals were filling up again. I don't think that ever happened before with regular flus. Especially in the summer time.

A brief word about the flu:

I never get it.  Why?  I keep my body clean.

What is the flu really? it's a cellular detoxification. Do you have sufficient glutathione?  No, then you'll likely get the flu, once your bacterial (good Commensal) cannot adequately protect you from waste products of food and metabolism. 

Mainstream is naive and ignorant about nature, so they focus on killing, but without bacteria we are dead!

I've been very consistent from the beginning of all these discussions about viruses, at least in most of these topics whereby the statement - Unless it's injected directly, a so-called virus, which could also be a collection of non-isolated genetic material (not purified to contain just a virus itself and/or exosome by any other name) will cause a disease, including herpes.

So, I will be more clear. Since these alleged viruses are in actuality a collection of genetic material that also contain a toxin, that is how they create a disease. If the virus and/or exosome or combination of toxin and genetic material are directly injected, particularly from animal origins, the effects are usually not good. There's little doubt that exosomes and/or viruses do have effects when injected, but to "catch" them from the air?  That's never been proven scientifically.

If we carefully examine the words of WHO and CDC, they clearly admit that.

Have a look at the virologist who doubts the existence of viruses says.

In Stephan Lanka's words:

“So, for a long time I studied virology, from the end to the beginning, from the beginning to the end, to be absolutely sure that there was no such thing as HIV. And it was easy for me to be sure about this because I realized that the whole group of viruses to which HIV is said to belong, the retroviruses – as well as other viruses which are claimed to be very dangerous – in fact do not exist at all.”

So he thoroughly read the literature on those “other viruses” again, and after he could still not find any paper which would provide the evidence, he encouraged people not to BELIEVE him but to ask the institutes and authorities themselves. This has actually eventuated, mostly initiated by mothers. The responses were revealing. In September 2001 the German book “Impfen – Völkermord im dritten Jahrtausend?” (Vaccination – Genocide in the third millennium?) by Stefan Lanka and Karl Krafeld was published in which they state that there is still no proof of any (medically relevant) virus."

This movement (klein-klein-aktion ~ many little actions/steps) has a German website: www.klein-klein-aktion.de which I have taken (and translated) all the following texts from.

For almost one year we have been asking authorities, politicians and medical institutes for the scientific evidence for the existence of such viruses that are said to cause disease and therefore require “immunization”. 

After almost one year we have not received even one concrete answer which provides evidence for the existence of those “vaccine-preventable viruses”. The conclusion is inevitable that our children are still vaccinated on the basis of scientific standards of the 18th and 19th century. In the 19th century Robert Koch demanded in his generally accepted postulates evidence of the virus in order to prove infection; at Koch´s time this evidence couldn't be achieved directly by visualization and characterization of the viruses, because adequate technology wasn't available at that time. Methods of modern medicine have profoundly changed over the past 60 years, in particular by the invention of the electron microscope, yet all these viruses we get immunized against have still never been re-examined using this technology?

We showed to Dr. Lanka a number of images and explanations we were pointed to and that were said to show – respectively describe (characterize) viruses. Here are his summarizing comments:

“All these photos have in common that they, respectively the authors, can´t claim that they represent a virus, as long as they do not also provide the original publications which describe how and what from the virus has been isolated. Such original publications are cited nowhere.

Indeed, in the entire scientific medical literature there´s not even one publication, where the fulfillment of Koch´s first postulate is even claimed for such viruses. This means that there is no proof that the viruses held responsible for these diseases have been isolated from humans afflicted by them. Nevertheless, this is precisely what they publicly claim.


Now, regarding the photos submitted:

1. Many of the photos are colored. This is proof enough, that they are the (art)work of designers, because electron microscopic photos always appear in black and white.

2. The images of the so called HIV-, measles (Masern)- and smallpox (Pocken) viruses clearly show, as the image descriptions partly already indicate, that these are cells wherein the viruses can allegedly be found. Thus, nothing has been isolated. The photos actually show cells and typical endogenous particles in them. These structures are well known and serve the intra- and inter-cellular transport. Unlike viruses of the same kind – which are consistently the same size and same shape – they differ in size and shape and therefore can´t have been isolated.

3. In the case of the influenza- herpes-, vaccinia-, polio-, adeno- and ebola-viruses each photo shows only a single particle; nobody claims that they´re isolated particles, let alone particles that have been isolated from humans.

These particles are partially the cellular particles mentioned above (#2) resp. typical artifacts which means: structures that accrue after inappropriate fixing and drying of the probes, while being prepared for the electron microscope.

4. The “isolated” polio viruses are artificial particles, generated by suction of an indifferent mass through a very fine filter into a vacuum. Its structure (no characteristic structures) differ clearly from the ones of the “viruses” in the cells. Here the information is essential that a biochemical characterization of those “isolated” viruses, although “isolation” is claimed, has never been published anywhere nor has anybody even claimed such a characterization.

5. The photo of the hepatitis B “viruses” does not show isolated structures, but – as the image title already says, an agglutinate. This is the scientific/medical term for proteins from the blood that are clumped together, as is typical for coagulation. Typically, round and also crystal structures accrue – depending on the condition of the blood sample – as a consequence .

In summary, it must be said that these photos are an attempt of fraud committed by the researchers and medical scientists involved, as far as they assert that these structures are viruses or even isolated viruses. To what extent the involved journalists and authors of textbooks have contributed to this fraud knowingly or only out of gross negligence, I don´t know. Everyone who starts researching the medical literature, will quickly encounter statements and references that Koch´s first postulate can´t be fulfilled (i.e. Großgebauer: Eine kurze Geschichte der Mikroben, 1997 [“A short history of the microbes”]; editor: Verlag für angewandte Wissenschaft). How these authors who claim the existence of viruses could overlook that, remains a riddle.

Could it be that the term “Contagium” = “Gift” (poison/toxin) = “Virus” from the 18th and 19th century was applied in the 20th century to the cell components which were named “viruses” since the electron microscope was introduced in 1931? And in order to hide this, the “disease causing viruses” have often been described, yet have never been isolated? And then they were used as seemingly logical explanation for poisonings and adverse affects of vaccination, as Luhmann (1995) (i.e.) writes about the symptomatic of Hepatitis B, which was observed for the first time in 1985 following smallpox vaccinations, and 1938 following measles vaccinations? The copies in the textbooks show only homogenous structures within cells and nothing that looks like something which has been isolated. The biochemical characterization, which is crucial, is completely lacking.

Robert Koch and colleagues, Prof. Rush, Prof. Max von Pettenkofer, Prof. Virchow have shown, for instance by experiments and by observation of the Henle-Koch´s rules that by transmission of bacteria, the supposed ‘contagium vivum’, it was not possible to cause the same disease. So Robert Koch modified (weakened) the 3rd postulate of his teacher, the German anatomist Henle, in that the generation of a similar symptom in animal experiments was now considered sufficient to prove the hypothesis of disease causation by infectious bacteria. (See Großgebauer: Eine kurze Geschichte der Mikroben).

So it does not surprise me that Prof. Alfred Fischer writes in his book “Vorlesungen über Bakterien” (“[academic] lectures on bacteria”) from 1897 (!): “As is true for any infectious disease – the fact that it does not only take the addition of the bacteria (for disease to occur) but also the unknown something of individual predisposition, goes without saying.”

Stefan Lanka, Dec 2001