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Post  shaftless Mon Jun 29, 2020 3:03 pm

I got this from googling "how does a virus/bacteria make you ill". Do you guys agree or disagree?


Pathogenic microbes challenge the immune system in many ways. Viruses make us sick by killing cells or disrupting cell function. Our bodies often respond with fever (heat inactivates many viruses), the secretion of a chemical called interferon (which blocks viruses from reproducing), or by marshaling the immune system’s antibodies and other cells to target the invader. Many bacteria make us sick the same way, but they also have other strategies at their disposal. Sometimes bacteria multiply so rapidly they crowd out host tissues and disrupt normal function. Sometimes they kill cells and tissues outright. Sometimes they make toxins that can paralyze, destroy cells’ metabolic machinery, or precipitate a massive immune reaction that is itself toxic.


Flesh-eating disease comes to mind. A special breed of bacteria is responsible.

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Post  Delphine Mon Jun 29, 2020 7:51 pm

shaftless wrote:I got this from googling "how does a virus/bacteria make you ill". Do you guys agree or disagree?


Pathogenic microbes challenge the immune system in many ways. Viruses make us sick by killing cells or disrupting cell function. Our bodies often respond with fever (heat inactivates many viruses), the secretion of a chemical called interferon (which blocks viruses from reproducing), or by marshaling the immune system’s antibodies and other cells to target the invader. Many bacteria make us sick the same way, but they also have other strategies at their disposal. Sometimes bacteria multiply so rapidly they crowd out host tissues and disrupt normal function. Sometimes they kill cells and tissues outright. Sometimes they make toxins that can paralyze, destroy cells’ metabolic machinery, or precipitate a massive immune reaction that is itself toxic.


Flesh-eating disease comes to mind. A special breed of bacteria is responsible.

It may surprise you to know that those bacteria are caused by overuse of antibiotics. Superbugs! And again the answer is to fortify immune system. Olive leaf extract
is said to be effective.

Can you wrap your mind around the idea that as Pasteur said on deathbed, terrain is everything, germ is nothing? You don't have to of course. You are free to believe whatever.
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Post  CausticSymmetry Tue Jun 30, 2020 5:30 am

Let's think of it this way, immunology for most physicians is based on an outdated understanding. It would be laughable if it were not so serious to have profit-minded MD's profiting from governments to create a fake pandemic.

When we take an antibiotic what is really happening?  It clears away the bacterial endotoxins (the excrement) and/or waste product of bacteria that happen to be eating toxic waste.

So it's a garbage in, garbage out under normal circumstances. Dis-ease occurs when we cannot cope with toxins.

Viruses or exosomes by any other name at best, could convey information to cells and other people, but are not agents of disease.

The only way a virus (exosome) can create disease is if it's directly injected, that includes blood transfusions and vaccines.

If I were to take 200 mcg of selenium, in most cases it would halt viral reproduction. Well that is really happening here?

Translation, it's actually binding up toxins by way of releasing glutathione (selenium is a co-enzyme for GSH), which in effect nullifies toxins. So in probable reality, if toxins cause a release of exosomes, by having fewer or nullified toxins, there is no more release of exosomes, or "stopping viral replication"....so it's more likely that exosomes/viruses are a response of toxic injury.

If we examine any disease, the process works the same. That video on the previous page posted by Delphine is fanatastic. Would watch it all the way through.

We can dismantle the virus theory here: It gets into the history so that we can see how researchers were postulating along the way, making presumptions how what a virus is or does.

https://www.drrobertyoung.com/post/dismantling-the-viral-theory

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Post  Delphine Tue Jun 30, 2020 10:20 am

Excellent post CS. Shared with someone on Facebook. Thanks!
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Post  CausticSymmetry Sat Jul 04, 2020 11:38 am

More Good Stuff:

https://www.drrobertyoung.com/post/dr-robert-o-young-speaks-out-about-covid-other-matters

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Post  Delphine Sat Jul 04, 2020 7:08 pm

CausticSymmetry wrote:More Good Stuff:

https://www.drrobertyoung.com/post/dr-robert-o-young-speaks-out-about-covid-other-matters

Yes, very good overview.  I like him.  CS, what do you think he means by "natural man" in conclusion?  What he is describing sounds more "unnatural" to me.

34:23
the medical
system the hospital system the
whole system isn't working
and we already know what the definition
of insanity is to continue to do what
you've done before in the past and
expect a different result I mean it's
just not going to work you you know if
you base the medical system on results
their grade is failure and their course
of action as they continue on will be
self-destruction they either embrace
truth they embrace light or they're
headed and most of them are already
there they're headed towards that
darkness and death
and that's not just physical death we're
talking about most of these people are
emotionally and spiritually dead so you
get to a point where you talk about some
of these bad actors they can't even
react because their whole being their
essence their spirit nature their
eternal being has been clouded and been
compromised by the natural man and the
natural man is selfish the natural man
is devilish and the natural man wants to
control you the natural man wants to
have you wear that mask the natural man
wants you to have that you know Covid
test because they want you to be
positive because that's the way they're
gonna control you but I want you to know
that positive means absolutely nothing
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Post  CausticSymmetry Sat Jul 04, 2020 10:52 pm

Yes, I agree, his use of "natural man" wasn't presented in the best way. Perhaps he meant a pre-conditioned person. 

After all, the essence of this place is to think outside of the pre-conditioned box of poisoning enzymes to keep our hair.

A lot of people sort of operate on "autopilot" just implicitly trusting what "authorities" say as if it's just fact and not to be questioned.

Maybe the other part he meant by "natural man" is some bizarre instinct to be soulless in the sense that say disease is something to be managed and not be prevented.

A great many physicians become completely disillusioned once they complete certain milestones in their training or reach a point to reflect that healing using the standard model doesn't occur.

Maybe the ones that continue on are "spiritually dead" or are apathetic to their patients.

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Post  shaftless Sun Jul 05, 2020 8:18 am

Boy, this debate can go on forever. They say virus existence have never been proven. You can't grow a virus in a petri plate with agar like you can do with bacteria. But you can grow viruses in an egg or living tissue in the lab.

But my main confusion is...before Wuhan, why weren't these sick people all over the world already dying in huge numbers? Countries dug mass graves for these coronavirus victims. It's quite shocking to see arenas filled with coffins. This doesn't happen on a normal day. But if these people were already sick...for years...it should have already happened. Supposedly healthy and young people who were normal up to now suddenly died. If they had already sick terrains then why didn't they show any sign up till now? Why the surge of death all over the world and at the same time? The timing seems to point to one thing. A shared cause.

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Post  shaftless Sun Jul 05, 2020 8:33 am

A tiger in an Bronx zoo tested positive for corona. What possible natural cause could do this? How could a tiger share a human disease? So far only one has happened. And why was it being tested? Did it have any symptoms? If so, why didn't it have these symptoms before now? What human toxins did it absorb? Zoo environments are pretty clean and the food is healthy. Vaccinations as a baby tiger? This should be common to a lot of animals in zoos. But it's not.

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Post  Nuada Mon Jul 06, 2020 12:01 am

A fruit tested positive in tanzania. They attributed that to a bad batch of chinese test kits.
So the tiger can be a fluke or I don't know maybe it somehow got passed on to the tiger. It is a chimeric virus afterall.
Or the genetic material(the RNA/DNA identifier of the virus) they test isn't actually the virus.
Like you said, the Virus debate can go on. And since I'm not a labworker it is impossible to confirm which approach is the right one.
"Alternate media/science sources" say the isolation and purification of Sars Cov-2 was bogus but the mainstream can publish one study after another with scientific logs and electron microscope images.
Unless you are an expert in virology and have enough knowledge and experience to "fact check" the research it is really impossible to know which is true.

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Post  shaftless Mon Jul 06, 2020 4:13 am

So true. Mystery is the spice of life.

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Post  Delphine Mon Jul 06, 2020 5:51 am

CausticSymmetry wrote:Yes, I agree, his use of "natural man" wasn't presented in the best way. Perhaps he meant a pre-conditioned person. 

After all, the essence of this place is to think outside of the pre-conditioned box of poisoning enzymes to keep our hair.

A lot of people sort of operate on "autopilot" just implicitly trusting what "authorities" say as if it's just fact and not to be questioned.

Maybe the other part he meant by "natural man" is some bizarre instinct to be soulless in the sense that say disease is something to be managed and not be prevented.

A great many physicians become completely disillusioned once they complete certain milestones in their training or reach a point to reflect that healing using the standard model doesn't occur.

Maybe the ones that continue on are "spiritually dead" or are apathetic to their patients.

Thanks for your thoughts.  I just left comment on the video at youtube asking about this, we shall see.  

CS, going by the other responses here so far, it seems just about impossible for most people to understand that in effect, there is no virus and
what we are seeing is one big psyop of manipulation which these spiritually dead guys are hoping will lead to an Orwellian scenario of total control...
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Post  Delphine Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:31 am



Got a reply to my question about "natural man" in the youtube comments!

what he means by 'natural man' is those who eat meat. he is a
vegan, and this has clouded his otherwise correct thinking


Ah! I agree with her. Heck, Hitler was a vegetarian!
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Post  CausticSymmetry Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:48 am

I think if one carefully reads all of the pro-CV19 hoax points, they will find that the evidence to support zero virus causing a disease is much more solid verses a religious belief in a virus, which never has there ever been robust evidence to support.

Whether it's polio, Ebola, H1N1, Flu, or whatever, none of these are infectious (unless one has a syringe).

Getting sick is as simple as not removing your garbage (cellular respiration or byproducts of metabolism), or other toxins derived from.

Rather than write more about Certificate Of Vaccination IDentification 2019

...because the hoax is still in play and bribes and plans to sacrifice liberty for false security is still underway...

Let's review what we know about the Polio Lie to compare

The Polio Lie

Without question the go to disease to defend infectious diseases to justify vaccinating the public is polio. 


Coincidentally it's also the greatest lie and medical con job of all time.  Maybe I should say...until now!


Toxins Causing "Polio" is well documented. Polio is the virus that never was.

1824: Metal workers had suffered for centuries from a paralysis similar to polio caused by the lead and arsenic in the metals they were working with. English scientist John Cooke observed: 'The fumes from these metals, or the receptance of them in solution into the stomach, often causes paralysis.'

1890: Lead arsenate pesticide started to be sprayed in the US up to 12 times every summer to kill Codling moth on apple crops.
1892: Polio outbreaks began to occur in Vermont, an apple growing region. In his report the Government Inspector Dr. Charles Caverly noted that parents reported that some children fell ill after eating fruit. He stated that 'infantile paralysis usually occurred in families with more than one child, and as no efforts were made at isolation it was very certain it was non-contagious' (with only one child in the family having been struck).
1907: Calcium arsenate comes into use primarily on cotton crops.
1908: In a Massachusetts town with three cotton mills and apple orchards, 69 children suddenly fell ill with infantile paralysis.
1909: The UK bans apple imports from the States because of heavy lead arsenate residues.
1921: Franklin D. Roosevelt develops polio after swimming in Bay of Fundy, New Brunswick. Toxicity of water may have been due to pollution run-off.
1943: DDT is introduced, a neurotoxic pesticide. Over the next several years it comes into widespread use in American households. For example, wall paper impregnated with DDT was placed in children's bedrooms.
1943: A polio epidemic in the UK town of Broadstairs, Kent is linked to a local dairy where cows were washed down with DDT.
1944: Albert Sabin reports that a major cause of sickness and death of American troops based in the Philippines was poliomyelitis. US military camps there were sprayed daily with DDT to kill mosquitoes. Neighboring Philippine settlements were not affected.
1944: NIH reports that DDT damages the same anterior horn cells that are damaged in infantile paralysis.
1946: Gebhaedt shows polio seasonality correlates with fruit harvest.
1949: Endocrinologist Dr Morton Biskind, a practitioner and medical researcher, found that DDT causes 'lesions in the spinal cord similar to human polio.'
1950: US Public Health Industrial Hygiene Medical Director, J.G. Townsend, notes the similarity between parathion poisoning and polio and believes that some polio might be caused by eating fruits or vegetables with parathion residues.
1951: Dr. Biskind treats his polio patients as poisoning victims, removing toxins from food and environment, especially DDT contaminated milk and butter. Dr. Biskind writes: 'Although young animals are more susceptible to the effects of DDT than adults, so far as the available literature is concerned, it does not appear that the effects of such concentrations on infants and children have even been considered.'
1949-1951: Other doctors report they are having success treating polio with anti toxins used to treat poisoning, dimercaprol and ascorbic acid. Example: Dr. F. R. Klenner reported: 'In the poliomyelitis epidemic in North Carolina in 1948 60 cases of this disease came under our care... The treatment was massive doses of vitamin C every two to four hours. Children up to four years received vitamin C injection intramuscularly... All patients were clinically well after 72 hours.'
1950: Dr. Biskind presents evidence to the US Congress that pesticides were the major cause of polio epidemics. He is joined by Dr. Ralph Scobey who reported he found clear evidence of poisoning when analyzing chemical traces in the blood of polio victims.
Comment: This was a no no. The viral causation theory was not something to be questioned. The careers of prominent virologists and health authorities were threatened. Biskind and Scobey's ideas were subjected to ridicule.
1953: Clothes are moth-proofed by washing them in EQ-53, a formula containing DDT.
1953: Dr. Biskind writes: 'It was known by 1945 that DDT was stored in the body fat of mammals and appears in their milk... yet far from admitting a causal relationship between DDT and polio that is so obvious, which in any other field of biology would be instantly accepted, virtually the entire apparatus of communication, lay and scientific alike, has been devoted to denying, concealing, suppressing, distorting and attempts to convert into its opposite this overwhelming evidence. Libel, slander, and economic boycott have not been overlooked in this campaign.'
1954: Legislation recognizing the dangers of persistent pesticides is enacted, and a phase out of DDT in the US accelerates along with a shift of sales of DDT to third world countries.
(Note that DDT is phased out at the same time as widespread polio vaccinations begin. Saying that, polio cases sky rocket only in communities that accept the polio vaccine, as the polio vaccine is laced with heavy metals and other toxins, so the paralysis narrative starts all over again. As the polio vaccines cause huge spikes in polio, the misinformed public demand more polio vaccine and the cycle spirals skyward exponentially)
1956: the American Medical Association mandated that all licensed medical doctors could no longer classify polio as polio. All polio diagnosis would be rejected in favor of Guillian-Barre Syndrome, AFP (acute flaccid paralysis), Bell's Palsy, Cerebral Palsy, ALS, (Lou-Gehrig's Disease), MS, MD etc etc. This sleight of hand was fabricated with the sole intent of giving the public the impression that the polio vaccine was successful at decreasing polio or eradicating polio. The public bought this hook, line and sinker and to this very day, many pro vaccine arguments are ignited by the manufactured lie regarding the polio vaccine eradicating polio.
1962: Rachel Carson's Silent Spring is published.
1968: DDT registration cancelled for the US.
2008: Acute Flaccid Paralysis (AFP) is still a raging in many parts of the world where pesticide use is high, and DDT is still used. AFP. MS, MD, Bell's Palsy, cerebral palsy, ALS (Lou Gehrig's Disease), Guillian-Barre are all catch basket diagnosis, all similar in symtpoms, tied to heavy metal poisoning and high toxic load.
2008: WHO states on its website: 'There is no cure for polio. Its effects are irreversible.'
Conclusion: Modern belief that polio is caused by a virus is an ongoing tragedy for the children of the world. Public funds are wasted on useless and dangerous vaccines when the children could be treated with antitoxins. A call into failing vaccine mythology is warranted, as is a complete investigation of the real agenda being executed against humanity involving science, chemicals, vaccines, the medical field in general, and the government.


Most people are either too asleep or have too much faith in mainstream authorities. People in government are routinely bribed to go along with a narrative. Science has been corrupted a long time ago, and those who speak out the truth, either lose grant funding or get terminated.

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Post  bh1546 Mon Jul 06, 2020 3:31 pm

It has been mentioned a few times here that it seems like they want people to catch this. I have a pretty interesting example. I live in a neighborhood that has begun to gentrify but is still majority low income. There is a nursing home in the middle of our neighborhood. There are literally houses across the street 50 ft away from this facility. It is an old facility known for mismanagement.

Back in April this nursing home was approved by the mayor of san antonio without proper representation from local representatives to be turned into a covid rehabilitation center. There was a zoom meeting with the owners from the nursing because of the backlash and they had little answers to any of the questions of safety specifically negative air units and proper windows etc. This company owns nursing homes all over the country and even more in my city but they chose this place. The majority of the residents in the neighborhood are also older. It literally made no sense to me unless there is something else at play here. The local reps had no idea it was happening until it was a done deal. Nothing has been done to change it and it continues to operate as one until today.

On the late night radio there was a big discussion about the elites and the global reset that they are pushing and have been planning for a long time now.

Something else I wanted to point out. In my county, there have been 117 deaths labeled as covid deaths out of 3 millions people. I would argue that after the shutdown there could be 130 deaths labeled in our county due to the increase in eating of fast food. Fast food restaurants are killing it since the shutdown. Lines going out the street constantly. Some people just dont cook at home and after most decent restaurants shut down fast food is there go to.

CS do you have any knowledge on quinine? I purchased a bunch of shwepps tonic water that has quinine in it. I heard from a few drs that it works in a similar mechanism as hydroxychloriquine combine with zinc.

It sounds insane to have a shutdown for such a small number of deaths and who is to say that those deaths were all even from covid.

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Post  CausticSymmetry Mon Jul 06, 2020 4:13 pm

Chloroquine is a synthetic form of quinine, a compound found in the bark of cinchona trees native to Peru and used for centuries to treat malaria.

We can compare the effects of each here, and I chose older studies as to prevent the coloring or bias from mainstream, since they want to keep the illusion that we are helpless without their vaccines or other draconian measures.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/7646092_Chloroquine_is_a_potent_inhibitor_of_SARS_coronavirus_infection_and_spread

[url=https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/3055454/#:~:text=Chloroquine%2C however%2C is cheaper and,the chloroquine group were resistant.]https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/3055454/#:~:text=Chloroquine%2C%20however%2C%20is%20cheaper%20and,the%20chloroquine%20group%20were%20resistant.[/url]

People in nursing homes are "ideal" victims as their chance of dying is always high. Since the tests are not a true measuring of the alleged virus or even proof of infection, nursing home patients easily could be blamed for C0-Fraud-19 to justify more government tyranny.

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Post  long hair Sat Jul 11, 2020 2:38 am

i know from the first time it was a hoax ...it has some thing to do with devil worshiping and they force the whole world to share them their practice .they had to shut the churches and mosques .
they own the Media and they have corona actors acting as patients and doctors make it look real like hollywood movies .people believe anything that coming from the media and authority.
the Assyrian new year was at 21 mars(those people was an experts in magic and devil worshiping ).
in my country people get paid to say they have corona virus.
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Post  Delphine Sat Jul 11, 2020 9:54 am


Jon Rappaport tells it like it is.
https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2020/07/10/covid-what-was-the-plan-all-along/

COVID: what was the plan all along?

by Jon Rappoport

July 10, 2020

The plan all along was: sell a STORY about “a new virus.”

A virus that researchers would believe they had discovered—but didn’t.

The researchers are cultishly devoted to procedures of discovery that are scientifically useless and non-valid, as I’ve explained in several articles.

A few questions:

Why would elite players have run all these pandemic exercises, drills, planning sessions, and table-top simulations well in advance of the “outbreak,” so that anyone with a computer could discover them in hours?

Why would a few of these exercises have openly named a coronavirus as the cause of the upcoming pandemic?

The plan all along was to dupe people into believing that a real virus was spreading across the globe.

The tabletop exercises, the drills, the exercises, the seminars, the announcement of the discovery of a new virus—all of these tactics were part and parcel of convincing people that the story of a new virus was real.

And if you doubt that so many researchers, planners, public health officials could be “in on the conspiracy,” you’re absolutely right. No need for conscious knowledge. 99.99 percent of the players are already true believers in THE VIRUS.

You’ve got, say, a dozen “pre-pandemic” tabletop exercises, and all in all, there are 300 people sitting at tables, and they believe they’re talking about a real deadly virus—because by prior medical training and propaganda, they were taught to be true believers.

And at those exercises, there was one man sitting inconspicuously at the table, or leaning quietly against a wall, observing, who knew the truth. He was there to make sure the believers never wavered.

If someone wants to make a movie about reality, there it is.

A variation: Twenty CIA people are sitting at a table planning a covert infiltration of, and a revolution in, a foreign country WHICH IS THE ENEMY—and everyone at the table believes that foreign country IS the enemy. Except for one man. He knows the CIA has already created, through propaganda, A FALSE STORY about that country being the enemy.

There are dozens of variations on this theme, which is: the true believers, and the operator who knows the truth.

Another example: a “patriot” CEO with deep pockets commits his workers and resources to building up weapons for the war effort; but at the same time, he is secretly selling armaments to the enemy. He’s playing a bigger game. 99.9 percent of everyone else believes the war is being fought honestly.

A phony televangelist is preaching to huge crowds and raking in donations. Only a few trusted associates know the whole operation is a con. The crowds are true believers.

Fill in your own examples of the basic theme. It’s standard practice in small and large operations. It’s no surprise, that in the case of COVID, the same m.o. should be in play. But in this operation, “science” is touted as the proof to satisfy all the faithful. And science is a very convincing hustle.

Behind the hustle is a political hierarchy. That means only carefully chosen scientists are allowed to stand next to the president on television and lie through their teeth to the public.

The COVID plan, all along, involved lockdowns and economic devastation. That was and is the short-term goal. The story about a virus is the means to arriving at the fulfillment of the goal.

It’s possible that the next phase of the plan will involve an excuse to assign energy-use quotas and limits to nations. Ordinarily, this would be sold via a story about climate change. After the virus hoax and the lockdowns, some fairy tale about needing “re-allocation” of energy in order to reopen national economies “with justice” might be the ticket. Don’t look for logic. The planners use fake logic, just as they use fake viruses.

Globalist technocrats yearn for energy quotas. They want to monitor and control the ongoing energy use of every human. It’s part of their vision for re-engineering society, to resemble a machine.

Stay tuned. Stay resistant. Revenge of the Nerds wasn’t just a movie.
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Post  shaftless Sun Jul 12, 2020 5:29 am

"It’s part of their vision for re-engineering society, to resemble a machine."

OMG...it's the Borg that is behind this!!! lol. You know, if we lived in a totalitarian country all this would be easier to swallow. But as long as we have free elections and gov'ts and military personal can change at any time then democracy will never let this "plan" get a foothold.

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Post  Directo Thu Jul 16, 2020 4:48 pm

If Covid19 is a hoax then why so many people suffer from something similar suddenly ?

And about the viruses-dont-exit theory: What are, then, all these viruses images you can find on the internet ? Exemple: https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcTX86AOxErNF8lJJfI3e_63EK7sCGySMxxguQ&usqp=CAU
They show us something ? So a machine or a microscope did see/catch something. What would it be then ?

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Post  Delphine Thu Jul 16, 2020 5:24 pm

Directo wrote:If Covid19 is a hoax then why so many people suffer from something similar suddenly ?

The "symptoms" are quite vague actually. Similar to a cold or bad flu. This is supposed to be "novel" but the symptoms are nothing really new.
At about a minute in, talks about why people in same location get sick with the same thing. There are reasons other than contagion.


And about the viruses-dont-exit theory: What are, then, all these viruses images you can find on the internet ? Exemple: https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcTX86AOxErNF8lJJfI3e_63EK7sCGySMxxguQ&usqp=CAU
They show us something ? So a machine or a microscope did see/catch something. What would it be then ?

I think it is more about viruses not existing in the way we think they do, as disease-causing agents. But probably CS can answer that better than I.
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Post  Directo Thu Jul 16, 2020 8:43 pm

The "symptoms" are quite vague actually. Similar to a cold or bad flu. This is supposed to be "novel" but the symptoms are nothing really new.
At about a minute in, talks about why people in same location get sick with the same thing. There are reasons other than contagion.
But here the same location is "worldwide", even in remote places. And why, this time, hospitals were submerged by sick people and some countries even had to bring movable cold chambers to store dead bodies ? We haven't heard or seen things like these in the past years.

If it's a hoax, then what is it what's killing these people ?

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Post  CausticSymmetry Fri Jul 17, 2020 12:50 am

Directo wrote:
The "symptoms" are quite vague actually. Similar to a cold or bad flu. This is supposed to be "novel" but the symptoms are nothing really new.
At about a minute in, talks about why people in same location get sick with the same thing. There are reasons other than contagion.
But here the same location is "worldwide", even in remote places. And why, this time, hospitals were submerged by sick people and some countries even had to bring movable cold chambers to store dead bodies ? We haven't heard or seen things like these in the past years.

If it's a hoax, then what is it what's killing these people ?

If we look at countries like Taiwan who have had about 7 people die out of a country with 25 million, the answer is treatment. Budesonide is a corticosteroid that when nebulized will create a very fast response.

The powers-that be, controlled by WHO (World Hoax Organization) and Centers for Disease Creation (CDC) are for-profit entities under the guise of "do-good", but are quasi-militarily organizations who are financially motivated.

In previous posts, while we do not have inside info, it is still possible to figure that there are many possible causes of these symptoms. Actually if it were not for the government, media and TV, no one would notice much, as many circumstances have been exaggerated. 

CV-19 is a syndrome, which means unknown pathology, and without isolation of a virus, they are using testing without a gold standard, for which those tests do not have any reliability or accuracy to prove an infection.

Ultimately for those who have these symptoms, it appears to be clotting disorder caused by a separation of iron from hemoglobin. The causes could be many, but probably not a virus, which has never been proven scientifically in the past.

Hospital personnel are taking orders from administrators who are taking orders from people above them. It's a racket.

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Post  Delphine Fri Jul 17, 2020 1:13 am

Here's an example detailing probable causes, from Jon Rappaport, who has been reporting on this daily.
By the way, the truth about vastly inflated case numbers has been coming out.
Florida just declared tens of thousands of tests false positives. The CDC just admitted tests were already contaminated with positives.
People are making appointments to be tested, and even if they don't show up, they are then informed they tested positive.

https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2020/05/12/bill-gates-hr-6666-remdesivir-deaths-in-italy/

DEATHS IN ITALY: I have reported on this con in the past. Italy’s own National Institute of Health has been combing through the records of patients who have died. Their average age? 79.5. And the overwhelming percentage of these people were already suffering from multiple, long-term, serious health conditions—and had certainly been treated with a number of toxic medical drugs. Claiming their deaths stemmed from the purported COVID-19 virus would be absurd.

Add to these facts the horrendous air pollution in areas of Northern Italy. Toxic air can easily explain the lung conditions attributed to the virus.

In recent years, the annual number of flu cases in Italy averages roughly five million. It’s a simple matter to label some of these people COVID-19.

I’ve also indicated that vaccination campaigns could account for destruction of health in Northern Italy. I have a few possible clues in that regard.

Colorado Naturopathic Doctor, Michael Murray writes: “Could a new flu vaccine be partly responsible for the COVID-19 mortality rate in Italy?…My colleague, Dr. Alex Vazquez, provided me with a valuable insight. In September 2019, Italy rolled out an entirely new type of influenza vaccine. This vaccine called VIQCC is different than others. Most available influenza vaccines are produced in embryonated chicken eggs. VIQCC, however, is produced from cultured animal cells rather than eggs and has more of a ‘boost’ to the immune system as a result. VIQCC also contains four types of viruses – 2 type A viruses (H1N1 and H3N2) and 2 type B viruses…”

Well-known Italian writer, Br. Alexis Bugnolo, states: “Italians are still trying to understand why Bergamo, of all the cities of Italy, is the epicenter of the Coronavirus epidemic…”

“One factor may be that the city was vaccinated en mass not once, but twice, in the 2 months preceding the Coronavirus outbreak in the city.”

In the fall [2019], according to records 141,000 doses of vaccine against the winter flu were administered by the local health board. Of those, 129,000 were Italians over 65 years of age. Of those, 129,000, 70% had grave heart problems.”

“Then, again, in December, from the 24th through to January, there was a mass vaccination program against Hepatitis-C of 21,331 citizens of Bergamo. And in the surrounding province, another 12,000 citizens.”

At doctorsinitaly.com: “In September 2019 was made available for the first time in Italy a ‘cell-based’ flu shot, called VIQCC or QIVc, that is produced from cultured animal cells rather than eggs.”

“VIQCC is a quadrivalent flu vaccine that contains 2 type A viruses (H1N1 and H3N2) and 2 type B viruses. It is approved for people ages 9 and older.”

ANY vaccines given to people whose immune systems are already weakened—such as the elderly and infirm—are automatically dangerous and life-threatening at a high level. Two vaccines within the space of a few months, one of which has added new viral material and/or a variety of new cellular and genetic debris—plus the usual toxic chemicals—and you have a potential recipe for disaster.
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Post  Directo Fri Jul 17, 2020 9:49 pm

CausticSymmetry wrote:The powers-that be, controlled by WHO (World Hoax Organization) and Centers for Disease Creation (CDC) are for-profit entities under the guise of "do-good", but are quasi-militarily organizations who are financially motivated.
China had everything to lose this Covid problem. And China has its hands on the WHO, so it makes no sense that they would go create that kind of hoax.
China is even hiding the number of deaths.

If viruses don not cause diseases, what the explanation behind measles, influenza, smallpox, and herpes ? Something is causing these things. Why first going to think it's something else that we don't know, when -apparently-, we have found something called "virus" ? What's the logic behind that ?
These diseases exist since a while now. And some have their own symptoms, like herpes. If we can't come up with a clear explanation about these, why going to think viruses don't exist ?
Is there, for example, an ounce of evidence that herpes would be caused by something else ?

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