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Post  Lw Thu Jan 19, 2012 5:24 am

As we say the labourer is worthy of his hire. I have no objection to pay a few dozens $ if it's worth for it.

Few years ago I noticed that the galea was fitting perfectly the MPB zones. I did not look further into this, not knowing exactly what I could do about.

I am now waiting for the electric device to be shipped. I'm massaging vigorously my head for a few days and it makes my scalp feeling great.
I tried already several scalp massages techniques, all were kind of painful and annoying massages hard to stay on on a regular basis.

Maliniak's massages are on the contrary quite simple. Makes me feel very relaxed and I can feel the blood flushing into the galea.
The massages localize on different head zones. One of them makes me feel great in the temples.

I always felt my scalp being so tight and sick. It's such a pleasure to feel the blood going in again, seriously.

Apart of that, I agree the videos and the website should be changed and re-make in a more professional way.

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Post  whodathunkit Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:57 am

cpio, if that's what you believe then develop your own method and publish your book for free. What you and hair.worth.it are advocating is creepy. You have no more "right" to publish Maliniak's work without his permission than he or the government has to come into your home and appropriate the computer you use to access this forum.

At any rate, if someone is unscrupulous enough to give you a link or a copy of the book for free I certainly hope you're not foolish enough to post it here and put CS in the middle of it. It could cause problems, especially if Maliniak really is a lawyer.

I normally don't respond to posts like that but I just couldn't let that go by. Goodness.

Anyway, I'll post if I believe I have results from Maliniak's method. Although I'm trying lots of new things I think I'll be able to tell what's working and what's not. So far I have a few new hairs growing showing up but nothing to write home about, and I've been having lots of shed lately so it's probably replacement not new growth. Overall I'd have to say my hair has thinned in the last few months. But I also chelated a month ago, and have experimented with a bit of testosterone cream since mine is low according to a saliva test, so who knows what's causing the shed.

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Post  canuhandleit Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:15 am

I purchased the book and subsequently the laser wand. I have some money to waste so I figured anything for my hair - hopefully it actually does something as $550 is still quite a bit to spend. Does anyone know how quickly I can expect to receive the laser wand?

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Post  Lw Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:43 am

canuhandleit wrote:I purchased the book and subsequently the laser wand. I have some money to waste so I figured anything for my hair - hopefully it actually does something as $550 is still quite a bit to spend. Does anyone know how quickly I can expect to receive the laser wand?

Maliniak indicate the recommended power range of the wand in his book. I've found a 90$ and even 50$ wand which fit the recommandations. The seller told me there's not a big difference between the 90 and the 50 bucks model.

Just send me a PM if you're interested in this. You really don't have to pay 550 dollars. Even the wand used by Maliniak himself (he says it's the top of the range) is about 300$.

Most of the wands can also be ordered on Ali Baba with chinese societies giving you the raw priced material.

(apologize the grammar)

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Post  masterfree Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:57 am

Lw wrote:
canuhandleit wrote:I purchased the book and subsequently the laser wand. I have some money to waste so I figured anything for my hair - hopefully it actually does something as $550 is still quite a bit to spend. Does anyone know how quickly I can expect to receive the laser wand?

Maliniak indicate the recommended power range of the wand in his book. I've found a 90$ and even 50$ wand which fit the recommandations. The seller told me there's not a big difference between the 90 and the 50 bucks model.

Just send me a PM if you're interested in this. You really don't have to pay 550 dollars. Even the wand used by Maliniak himself (he says it's the top of the range) is about 300$.

Most of the wands can also be ordered on Ali Baba with chinese societies giving you the raw priced material.

(apologize the grammar)

I think Maliniak and his strict followers do not agree on your statement about the cheaper VRay devices. I have one of those cheap ebay ones. It does soemthing but according to his followers that ebay type is not strong enough. Let him clarify?

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Post  whodathunkit Thu Jan 19, 2012 12:24 pm

I just received my violet ray tonight (sight unseen, expected it tomorrow). So I did the scalp massage and tried it. It's a very interesting device. You can definitely smell the ozone. It seems quite powerful. The sensation when it's applied to skin reminds me of the little needle pricks of getting a tattoo, and it's kind of addictive like that. You don't want to stop once you start. I can see why these things are used as sex toys. Very Happy But you have to let it cool down after 8 - 10 minutes so it can't go on forever. Apparently this machine was built based on Tesla's original patent, and has a beeswax core that will melt with prolonged use. But all the hand-held ones I could find online need a cool-down after a relatively short use period, so I opted for this one b/c it has the specs Maliniak recommends.

I did not buy mine from Maliniak b/c I have long hair and his didn't appear to have the comb attachment or any way to buy a comb attachment that was compatible. I would have bought from him, though, b/c I like the idea of a protective carrying case and mine doesn't have one. The glass attachments are delicate. I got mine from here http://www.baar.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=001&Product_Code=504M
if anyone is interested. This place sells lots of Edgar Cayce stuff. Silverlin turned me on to it.

My scalp feels good and like the blood is circulating more freely. It's tingling in a good way. I"m pleased so far and am looking forward to putting the violet ray to other uses. For instance, when researching to buy I found that you can use them for everything from zapping zits to relieving joint pain and bruises. Estheticians use them and skin care is a hobby of mine. I'm glad Maliniak tipped me over into buying one.

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Post  Mastery Thu Jan 19, 2012 4:09 pm

whodathunkit wrote:cpio, if that's what you believe then develop your own method and publish your book for free. What you and hair.worth.it are advocating is creepy. You have no more "right" to publish Maliniak's work without his permission than he or the government has to come into your home and appropriate the computer you use to access this forum.

At any rate, if someone is unscrupulous enough to give you a link or a copy of the book for free I certainly hope you're not foolish enough to post it here and put CS in the middle of it. It could cause problems, especially if Maliniak really is a lawyer.

I normally don't respond to posts like that but I just couldn't let that go by. Goodness.

Anyway, I'll post if I believe I have results from Maliniak's method. Although I'm trying lots of new things I think I'll be able to tell what's working and what's not. So far I have a few new hairs growing showing up but nothing to write home about, and I've been having lots of shed lately so it's probably replacement not new growth. Overall I'd have to say my hair has thinned in the last few months. But I also chelated a month ago, and have experimented with a bit of testosterone cream since mine is low according to a saliva test, so who knows what's causing the shed.

That is an understatement. CPIO and anyone else thinking along these lines, you would face a law suit. You could put CS's work at risk as he would be asked to hand over contact details, I mean you just can't do that. By saying what you did you are also using CS' forum to propose a likely highly illegal act regarding copyright.

We all agree with internet freedom but not if you steal and distribute someone else's work

DONT DO IT

If you insist, then respect this forum and everynoe on it enough to do it somewhere else.

I tried to buy the book today, but the link would not work. I will try again tomorrow.
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Post  Amaranthaceae Thu Jan 19, 2012 4:35 pm


Not wanting to share crucial information freely can entail negative karma.

The business/money ideology and idea of copyrighting knowledge is not very impressive IMHO.

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Post  hair.worth.it Fri Jan 20, 2012 12:40 am

cpio wrote:
Not wanting to share crucial information freely can entail negative karma.

Exactly. It will still sound like a scam, regardless of what other users said.

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Post  canuhandleit Fri Jan 20, 2012 2:08 am

cpio wrote:
Not wanting to share crucial information freely can entail negative karma.

The business/money ideology and idea of copyrighting knowledge is not very impressive IMHO.

Let it be known - you are officially an idiot

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Post  Lw Fri Jan 20, 2012 2:15 am

cpio wrote:
Not wanting to share crucial information freely can entail negative karma.
The business/money ideology and idea of copyrighting knowledge is not very impressive IMHO.

I've always thought there was many links and parallels between the new-age ideology and communism.
Bill Gates said that P2P networks was just the premises of a communist revolution, wiping off the old standards of intellectual property.

On my side I'll maintain that "The laborer is worthy of his hire". The question is, did you ever produced something by yourself ?

Here's the reason of why you're so prompt of sharing other's work: because you never produced anything.


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Post  Lw Fri Jan 20, 2012 6:49 am

cpio wrote:
Not wanting to share crucial information freely can entail negative karma.
The business/money ideology and idea of copyrighting knowledge is not very impressive IMHO.


That to say why couldn't you buy the book, sacrificing a little of your own money for the sake of your humans comrades, build some good Karma for only 29,90$ (about 25€) and spread the MPB cure to the world ?

This has nothing to do with Karma, but only the best way for you to keep a few bucks in your rance wallet.. DUDE !!
Do not involve Karma or whatever just because you're a little too stingy Exclamation

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Post  ubraj Fri Jan 20, 2012 7:01 am

whodathunkit wrote:I just received my violet ray tonight .

You might be interested in this pdf

http://www.violetwandstore.com/Articles/renulife_users_directions1919.pdf

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Post  Misirlou Fri Jan 20, 2012 7:09 am

canuhandleit wrote:
cpio wrote:
Not wanting to share crucial information freely can entail negative karma.
The business/money ideology and idea of copyrighting knowledge is not very impressive IMHO.
Let it be known - you are officially an idiot

Guess I'm an idiot too then Smile

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Post  canuhandleit Fri Jan 20, 2012 7:24 am

Misirlou wrote:
canuhandleit wrote:
cpio wrote:
Not wanting to share crucial information freely can entail negative karma.
The business/money ideology and idea of copyrighting knowledge is not very impressive IMHO.
Let it be known - you are officially an idiot

Guess I'm an idiot too then Smile

Yep.

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Post  Misirlou Fri Jan 20, 2012 9:01 am

But I like you anyway, canuhandleit cyclops

Here we are, two "idiots" (me and cpio) sending out love to the rest of the world. You should try it for a change sunny

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Post  canuhandleit Fri Jan 20, 2012 9:04 am

Misirlou wrote:But I like you anyway, canuhandleit cyclops

Here we are, two "idiots" (me and cpio) sending out love to the rest of the world. You should try it for a change sunny


You are violating someones copyright more specifically - which is against the law. If you created your own content - you would understand this, of course. But since you don't - not much more needs to be said.

However, since you can't afford to purchase the ebook or refuse to do so - I would be happy to buy you a copy to "spread the love" sunny

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Post  masterfree Fri Jan 20, 2012 9:55 am

canuhandleit wrote:
Misirlou wrote:But I like you anyway, canuhandleit cyclops

Here we are, two "idiots" (me and cpio) sending out love to the rest of the world. You should try it for a change sunny


You are violating someones copyright more specifically - which is against the law. If you created your own content - you would understand this, of course. But since you don't - not much more needs to be said.

However, since you can't afford to purchase the ebook or refuse to do so - I would be happy to buy you a copy to "spread the love" sunny

and you would be aiding in that violation. This is no different than stealing someone's bread. You can sugarcoat it all day long it is not going to change the truth.

now coming back to Maliniak method, getting inspired by existing methods and knowledge is one thing and is allowed. If Maliniak came up with this whole method only by himself then his work is original and he can benefit from it. If on the other hand if it is a compilation of existing methods with a lot of mumbo jumbo then it is worthless. I do not know the answer because I have not read his book. I am not planning to buy it either.



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Post  canuhandleit Fri Jan 20, 2012 9:57 am

Masterfree - I should have made myself more clear. I didn't mean "spread the love" as in break copyright and hand it - I'm firmly against that. I meant spread the love as in I buy him a copy - for his personal use only. I'd probably want him to sign a contract with Mr. Malinak that gives him a speedy right to legal remedy if that copyright was violated.

masterfree wrote:
canuhandleit wrote:
Misirlou wrote:But I like you anyway, canuhandleit cyclops

Here we are, two "idiots" (me and cpio) sending out love to the rest of the world. You should try it for a change sunny


You are violating someones copyright more specifically - which is against the law. If you created your own content - you would understand this, of course. But since you don't - not much more needs to be said.

However, since you can't afford to purchase the ebook or refuse to do so - I would be happy to buy you a copy to "spread the love" sunny

and you would be aiding in that violation. This is no different than stealing someone's bread. You can sugarcoat it all day long it is not going to change the truth.

Spreading love my ass.

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Post  masterfree Fri Jan 20, 2012 10:03 am

canuhandleit wrote:Masterfree - I should have made myself more clear. I didn't mean "spread the love" as in break copyright and hand it - I'm firmly against that. I meant spread the love as in I buy him a copy - for his personal use only. I'd probably want him to sign a contract with Mr. Malinak that gives him a speedy right to legal remedy if that copyright was violated.

Thanks for the clarification, my misunderstanding. If I were you I would not buy the book for him because he does not have the basic understanding of personal rights. He would probably just post it online as soon as he gets it. In fact he said he will do exactly that.

As for the book I am not planning to buy it because I do not think it is a unique approach. VR device + scalp massage is not something new. However if he has some very different scalp massages that nobody has done before then it may deserve some credit.

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Post  canuhandleit Fri Jan 20, 2012 10:07 am

Fair enough. Good point.

And yeah - it's not worth it if you already know the info. For me, it was a no brainer because rather than putting tons of time into piecing it together myself - it's done for me in the book. I went ahead and purchased the wand as well and consider it very useful information overall to be honest - it seems to make sense on many levels even if it's only one part of the solution.

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canuhandleit wrote:Masterfree - I should have made myself more clear. I didn't mean "spread the love" as in break copyright and hand it - I'm firmly against that. I meant spread the love as in I buy him a copy - for his personal use only. I'd probably want him to sign a contract with Mr. Malinak that gives him a speedy right to legal remedy if that copyright was violated.

Thanks for the clarification, my misunderstanding. If I were you I would not buy the book for him because he does not have the basic understanding of personal rights. He would probably just post it online as soon as he gets it. In fact he said he will do exactly that.

As for the book I am not planning to buy it because I do not think it is a unique approach. VR device + scalp massage is not something new. However if he has some very different scalp massages that nobody has done before then it may deserve some credit.

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Post  canuhandleit Fri Jan 20, 2012 10:26 am

And at the very least - the massage feels pretty good! I've always felt my scalp tighten whenever I'm super stressed - finally it makes sense.

canuhandleit wrote:Fair enough. Good point.

And yeah - it's not worth it if you already know the info. For me, it was a no brainer because rather than putting tons of time into piecing it together myself - it's done for me in the book. I went ahead and purchased the wand as well and consider it very useful information overall to be honest - it seems to make sense on many levels even if it's only one part of the solution.

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canuhandleit wrote:Masterfree - I should have made myself more clear. I didn't mean "spread the love" as in break copyright and hand it - I'm firmly against that. I meant spread the love as in I buy him a copy - for his personal use only. I'd probably want him to sign a contract with Mr. Malinak that gives him a speedy right to legal remedy if that copyright was violated.

Thanks for the clarification, my misunderstanding. If I were you I would not buy the book for him because he does not have the basic understanding of personal rights. He would probably just post it online as soon as he gets it. In fact he said he will do exactly that.

As for the book I am not planning to buy it because I do not think it is a unique approach. VR device + scalp massage is not something new. However if he has some very different scalp massages that nobody has done before then it may deserve some credit.

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Post  duel_black Fri Jan 20, 2012 2:49 pm

masterfree wrote:
If Maliniak came up with this whole method only by himself then his work is original and he can benefit from it. If on the other hand if it is a compilation of existing methods with a lot of mumbo jumbo then it is worthless. I do not know the answer because I have not read his book. I am not planning to buy it either.

It was a little bit compilation from what I read. There is a little Tom Hagerty influence in there. I mentioned earlier I was a little upset to see Tom's name left out: replaced with something like "Oh, and I read this on the internet *Tom's work but no attribution* also experiment with that as part of the exercise routine...". Tom's data is free. His forum goes back to 2001.

However, the rest of Maliniak's exercises, along with bringing back the wand from the old days is brilliant. Tom's stuff alone did not kick me over the edge (the return of missing hair in bald spots). Though I also have Papi's method, so I can not give full credit to the Maliniak method.

Isn't an entrepreneur one who gathers things from various resources, compiles them to create a product that offers more value than what is currently out there, for a profit? For the most part it's no different than gathering a bunch of healthy herbs and compiling them into a topical.

In either case. I am certainly getting results from my routines. This Maliniak is part it. And I say definitely buy the book and try this method. My wand was $150.00


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Post  NDW Fri Jan 20, 2012 2:58 pm

What is the total cost of all the equipment needed to use this protocol?
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Post  duel_black Fri Jan 20, 2012 3:01 pm

NDW wrote:What is the total cost of all the equipment needed to use this protocol?

I paid 30.00(ebook) + 150.00(wand). The wand can range from 90.00 to 500.00. You need a good one.

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