Success/Farewell/Parting Advice (Very Long Post)

Most people do not read all of the various topics of other users.  I will fill in a few of the details of Movie Junkies extensive process that lead to his results.

Movie Junkie had been doing the hard pressing DT-CPR for months prior and during part of the time he was using the shampoo.  He had dramtic skull altering results with the pressing.  Of course it took a delay of a few months to see the hair gain density and length, about when he started with the coconut products.  


"Guys I had this ridge on the top of my head that seems to have flattened. I can't believe it, the area is sore but it feels like nothing is blocking the blood flow in that area anymore."
"Cdto2012 thanks once again for your DT-CPR method, my hair feels great and my entire head just feels so much smoother and somehow flatter in general. I will continue to do this for as long as I can."

https://immortalhair.forumotion.com/t10798p225-detumescence-really-works#126590

"I commented in the other thread I had managed to flatten the ridge in the back of my scalp, my crown area (as well as my entire head) feels amazing. It feels warm and so alive. I don't know how I didn't realize I had such a hard ridge building up all this time. I'm not worried about the crown area anymore, I'm sure I can get that area back to 100% since that ridge right above it is gone "

https://immortalhair.forumotion.com/t11746p50-regrowth-photos-dt-cpr-method#126625


I like guys like yourself that are serious about taking action. I also used to do Cdto's method 3x a day, but I started seeing results so fast with this topical I only massage 2x a day now (About 10 mins each time).
https://immortalhair.forumotion.com/t11188p425-my-green-teacoconut-topical-and-green-juicing-progress#128294

My point is that Sage had success with a similar coconut oil process , but he combined it with other things juicing.  Few ( as in not many) other people reported results with it I think.   It seems like most of the oils have been tried and reported on in this forum in other threads with only a few memorable results.
 The reasons that I am tinkering with the process on the videos is to
1. isolate why the video shampoo method is different than any of the other things people have tried and reported on
2. Get feedback on the chemistry of the process,  like will caffeine be degraded if it is stored in an oil for long periods- if so could a caffeine powder be used along with the green tea?
3.  Get enough people trying it to see if others have results. Some will follow the videos. Others may use the simpler methods that I have suggested or variations.  What I know is that unless people see results of growth in a few weeks (and nobody has except Movie Junkie and Sage1 that I know of ) that long term faith based usage  will be assisted by a simpler method of preparation and use.
4. As people report on variations and other methods of isolated applications, perhaps the key to the process will emerge.
5. for me I will share my oils variation with DT-CPR,  where my hair is already in regrow mode, and see if I get any dramatic acceleration.  Mostly I am hoping for something like a caffeine based DHT blocker to accelerate density.


For the guy that kept trying to figure out if the lavender was essential - in the other video for the hair oil treatment the lady goes over the properties of the ingredients

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iPtWV_yocU

cdto2012 wrote:Most people do not read all of the various topics of other users.  I will fill in a few of the details of Movie Junkies extensive process that lead to his results.

Movie Junkie had been doing the hard pressing DT-CPR for months prior and during part of the time he was using the shampoo.  He had dramtic skull altering results with the pressing.  Of course it took a delay of a few months to see the hair gain density and length, about when he started with the coconut products.  


"Guys I had this ridge on the top of my head that seems to have flattened. I can't believe it, the area is sore but it feels like nothing is blocking the blood flow in that area anymore."
"Cdto2012 thanks once again for your DT-CPR method, my hair feels great and my entire head just feels so much smoother and somehow flatter in general. I will continue to do this for as long as I can."

https://immortalhair.forumotion.com/t10798p225-detumescence-really-works#126590

"I commented in the other thread I had managed to flatten the ridge in the back of my scalp, my crown area (as well as my entire head) feels amazing. It feels warm and so alive. I don't know how I didn't realize I had such a hard ridge building up all this time. I'm not worried about the crown area anymore, I'm sure I can get that area back to 100% since that ridge right above it is gone "

https://immortalhair.forumotion.com/t11746p50-regrowth-photos-dt-cpr-method#126625


I like guys like yourself that are serious about taking action. I also used to do Cdto's method 3x a day, but I started seeing results so fast with this topical I only massage 2x a day now (About 10 mins each time).
https://immortalhair.forumotion.com/t11188p425-my-green-teacoconut-topical-and-green-juicing-progress#128294

My point is that Sage had success with a similar coconut oil process , but he combined it with other things juicing.  Few ( as in not many) other people reported results with it I think.   It seems like most of the oils have been tried and reported on in this forum in other threads with only a few memorable results.
 The reasons that I am tinkering with the process on the videos is to
1. isolate why the video shampoo method is different than any of the other things people have tried and reported on
2. Get feedback on the chemistry of the process,  like will caffeine be degraded if it is stored in an oil for long periods- if so could a caffeine powder be used along with the green tea?
3.  Get enough people trying it to see if others have results. Some will follow the videos. Others may use the simpler methods that I have suggested or variations.  What I know is that unless people see results of growth in a few weeks (and nobody has except Movie Junkie and Sage1 that I know of ) that long term faith based usage  will be assisted by a simpler method of preparation and use.
4. As people report on variations and other methods of isolated applications, perhaps the key to the process will emerge.
5. for me I will share my oils variation with DT-CPR,  where my hair is already in regrow mode, and see if I get any dramatic acceleration.  Mostly I am hoping for something like a caffeine based DHT blocker to accelerate density.


For the guy that kept trying to figure out if the lavender was essential - in the other video for the hair oil treatment the lady goes over the properties of the ingredients

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iPtWV_yocU

I only use coconut oil to moisten my hair first, and then juice out some fresh coriander, rosemary from my garden and a slice of ginger.
Leave it over the night, and just shower it off.

The actual oily treatment i only use about 1-2 times a week, without lavender oil though and a lot more simplifying.

Hello

I live in the UK and I can not find any coconut milk. The best I could find is this (below link) on Amazon:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B002JNTEBW/ref=ox_sc_act_title_4?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A1EMJ5JX9OZJLH

Do you guys think that will be good enough?

Sounds like it has coconut milk in it. From a container of coconut milk here is what they list as benefits. High potassium, magnese, magnesium, and calcuim. Would still be nice to isolate the really active ingredients of the entire process. I am pretty sure that the model had been using the hair oil video ingredients also, so that makes the list even longer.

I am using a thickly brewed water based green tea with seaweed and a bit of apple cider vinegar when my scalp is fresh. Then at another time I am using the coconut oil with green tea leaves and seaweed as a separate topical. It is too early to tell, but I like the process so far.

An update about the product, here is the ingredients that I searched out. Plamers always adds a lot of stabilizers and junk, far from a pure product.

http://www.boots.com/en/Palmers-Coconut-Oil-Formula-Body-Lotion-250ml_1711529/

So weird regarding the lack of interest when it comes to actual growing plants.
It has to be in a bottle, can, or pill for some reason, and especially a lot of them to become magic.

http://www.nutrition-and-you.com/cilantro.html
I have learned a lot about our plants, and they surely have way more complexity, than just treating hair loss for example.

I wish I had space to grow enough herbs to juice.  I stay in a condo in the tropics.  My few basil plants just about die every time I go on trips.
 Anyhow another link (same source) for plants and nutritional value. This one mentions mustard seeds as a way to grow hair. I like the idea of heating properties assisting scalp circulation.

http://www.nutrition-and-you.com/mustard-seeds.html

Sage 1 wrote:So weird regarding the lack of interest when it comes to actual growing plants.
It has to be in a bottle, can, or pill for some reason, and especially a lot of them to become magic.

http://www.nutrition-and-you.com/cilantro.html
I have learned a lot about our plants, and they surely have way more complexity, than just treating hair loss for example.

Not sure the alternative to growing your own plants is pills and cans, mate. Just that not all of us have the time/facilities/space to grow herbs. Ever heard of markets?

CampOfDavid wrote:Hello

I live in the UK and I can not find any coconut milk. The best I could find is this (below link) on Amazon:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B002JNTEBW/ref=ox_sc_act_title_4?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A1EMJ5JX9OZJLH

Do you guys think that will be good enough?

This stuff is everywhere, man. Head to one of the Indian/Asian supermarkets for the canned stuff or literally google 'coconut milk UK' for shedloads of it for delivery.

Joey Ramone wrote:

Sage 1 wrote:So weird regarding the lack of interest when it comes to actual growing plants.
It has to be in a bottle, can, or pill for some reason, and especially a lot of them to become magic.

http://www.nutrition-and-you.com/cilantro.html
I have learned a lot about our plants, and they surely have way more complexity, than just treating hair loss for example.

Not sure the alternative to growing your own plants is pills and cans, mate. Just that not all of us have the time/facilities/space to grow herbs. Ever heard of markets?

Ok, never heard of markets or stores since i live in the country side, but what the heck i can just order some pills online instead.
Of course you can buy them also, but it´s really rare if it´s not for cooking reasons.

cdto2012 wrote:I wish I had space to grow enough herbs to juice.  I stay in a condo in the tropics.  My few basil plants just about die every time I go on trips.
 Anyhow another link (same source) for plants and nutritional value. This one mentions mustard seeds as a way to grow hair. I like the idea of heating properties assisting scalp circulation.

http://www.nutrition-and-you.com/mustard-seeds.html

I´m crazy enough to put growing plants on my scalp, but it works for me.
What i meant by my lessening of oils was that, coriander for example has the same properties of nutrients as coconut milk (manganese etc....) and i´m sure is more powerful due to it´s enzyme properties since it´s intact.

The mixture I make up using the given recipe lasts about 4 days but after the first day the shampoo begins to brown on top even though I keep it in a small sealed jar. Is this just oxygenation or do you think its spoilage of some of the ingredients? I notice it only happens once the shampoo is added. If you keep the oil separate from the shampoo, there is no browning. Any ideas? thanks

This dude is trolling you guys so hard....This is why I don't even go on here that much anymore, you just end up trying bunch of useless stuff that doesn't work. Cured mpb in 2 months, really?

I don't think sage is a troll. He's trying too hard to succeed. But I wish I could see more than just temple regrowth in his pics. Have you any new pics to show sage? That would be great.

shaftless wrote:I don't think sage is a troll. He's trying too hard to succeed. But I wish I could see more than just temple regrowth in his pics. Have you any new pics to show sage? That would be great.

Trying too hard by using simple growing plants, instead of inhaling and calculating every possible supplement, oils available?
I should ask the same question to members here, since still I´m amazed by the lack of using our natural resources.

How do you manage to apply the Cilantro, Green Tea and Rosemary mixture onto your scalp without using any of the oils or shampoo?

I just moist my scalp with coconut oil first, and then just put some rosemary, coriander leaves and a slice of ginger in my juicer and apply it on my scalp.

It penetrates the skin quiet quickly, and i leave it during the night and just wash it off in the morning.
My hair is green though so the pillow cover will be the same.
The coconut oil is necessary, since rosemary dries the skin directly without the oil.

I don't believe at this point in time that movie junkie achieved hairline regrowth in two months from this. I am almost 2 months in and see no terminal regrowth in the slightest at my temples. My hair quality is great, but no regrowth on the hairline.

If users click on the profile of a user (their name to the right of a post ),  you can see the history of all posts of a user. Movie Junkie has been trying all kinds of things for many months.

 On the possible side,  perhaps one of of his treatments started working months ago, and finally produced new hairs on his fairly youthful scalp. As for fast results,  I have had a few (like 10 on each side) hairs just start growing full diameter, far before the mass of hairs started lengthening. These hairs can pop out even in the first month. Perhaps he had some pop out hairs and some real growth and called it a success.

 On the not so likely side,  I remember this thread
https://immortalhair.forumotion.com/t11905-why-would-something-like-this-work-user-claims-fast-regrowth

Where I was trying to reason with Movie Junkie about a guy who claimed he regrew his hair in 7 days.  This was the response from Movie Junkie

" If he says he saw regrowth then only he would know best. Why wouldn't you trust what he said? Do you think he's selling Monistat along with eggs and Mayo? He even commented some time after he posted the video that his hairline had completely filled in with constant use of his protocol. And he mentions that baldness is hereditary in his family so he was suffering from MPB. I understand being skeptical but unless you've tried this variation of this protocol I don't see how you can just dismiss it. "

Believing a person had visible regrow in 7 days of a treatment does make me think you really are looking desperately for a magic cream.

I hear ya. I'm going to try this for a little bit longer everyday, but I'm so damn close to just shaving my head at this point.

Growdamnit wrote:I don't believe at this point in time that movie junkie achieved hairline regrowth in two months from this. I am almost 2 months in and see no terminal regrowth in the slightest at my temples. My hair quality is great, but no regrowth on the hairline.

Are you checking the sides and bottom part of your from hairline? I have been seeing growth on the area above the sideburns. Really filling in and coming forward toward my eyebrows ( not that far, but that direction) It appears that my hairline is filling in from the bottom and the back rather than coming down from the front /widow peak area. Maybe same for you?

I see no regrowth thus far.

Growdamnit wrote:I see no regrowth thus far.

What do you think is lacking?

I t is a bit early to tell, but I watch and photograph my hair closely, and I think I eventually will give the basics of this treatment a thumbs up.
It is a normal phase in the DT-CPR to see lengthening and thickening in my focus area, but I may be seeing an acceleration. Only been treating for about a month.

Thinking why the treatment may be working for some and not others. Obviously is previous treatments. Secondly is the delivery of the key ingredients. My focus is on the caffeine from the green tea, and the coconut oil. If you followed the shampoo video instructions your green tea delivery is limited to the ability for the dried leaves to saturate in oil and then release into solution during the minute you mixed the ingredients. When sitting on the scalp the flecks of tea leaf might not be near the scalp. This is a very ineffective and unstandardized way to deliver the caffeine.
I am using a super concentrated water based green tea with a bit of seaweed and cider vinegar. I apply this a few times a day to an unoiled scalp. Then once a day I apply a few drops of the coconut oil that has been soaking the green tea leaves for a month ( has a bit of kelp also). Then I still use the cinnamon oil a few times a day to to the DT-CPR with, and I will press massage in the coconut oil also.
I think it is an important idea to really wash off the heavy oils like coconut or neem oil after 30 minutes with hot water, then use an alchohol like vodka on a towel to clean the area. I think the thick oils can clog pores, limit oxygen exchange, and even allow bacteria to the point of making pimples.
To see follicles go from slick bald to show long growth is about impossible in 8 weeks. To see the lengthening of fuzz, that is possible in a few weeks.

Sage 1 wrote:

Growdamnit wrote:I see no regrowth thus far.

What do you think is lacking?

I have no clue. Does it seem to me that my vellus hairs are growing? Yes. But I'm not convinced yet.