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Post  bayman Thu Jul 16, 2015 5:05 am

Can you do a 6 month before/after photo with your OMG helmet when you get it? I just talked to OMG and thinking of getting one myself

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Post  Columbo Thu Jul 16, 2015 5:15 am

bayman wrote:Can you do a 6 month before/after photo with your OMG helmet when you get it? I just talked to OMG and thinking of getting one myself

yeah no probs. I already have some nice baldy before shots in the bag. feel free to bump this in 6 months.
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Post  iuyyighghghgkh Fri Jul 17, 2015 7:11 am

I have accidently confused Niacinamide and normal niacin.

their effect on hair would be very different, and apparently avoiding the flush is better overrall

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Post  Serge Mon Jul 20, 2015 6:21 am

I am only receding at the temples, and when I take high doses of flush niacin, the only place on my entire body that does NOT become inflamed with blood is my temples. Something is definitely clogged up there, and I just wish I could figure out a way to unclog it.

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Post  Columbo Mon Jul 20, 2015 8:03 am

Serge wrote:I am only receding at the temples, and when I take high doses of flush niacin, the only place on my entire body that does NOT become inflamed with blood is my temples. Something is definitely clogged up there, and I just wish I could figure out a way to unclog it.

I've been working on that too. It's basically sebum and/or calcification and/or capillary network withering away...

For sebum clean up / regulation...
- Externally: I'm alternating polysorbate 80, bentonite clay, scalp peels (e.g. with pumpkin enzymes and an acid e.g. glycolic or salycilic), change pillow sheets once per week
- Internally: Avoiding PUFA and fried food in general, getting plenty of rentinol i.e. chicken liver

For calcification...
- Externally: Mag oil
- Internally: Magnesium, vitamin K2, boron

For capillary network...
- Inversion (daily), massage (daily), derma rolling (once per month), lasers (3x per week)



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Post  Columbo Mon Jul 20, 2015 8:07 am

iuyyighghghgkh wrote:I have accidently confused Niacinamide and normal niacin.

their effect on hair would be very different, and apparently avoiding the flush is better overrall

Niacin melted my face off. Well, it's given me a a bit of rash and dried my skin out quite badly. Niacinamide is much easier on the skin. Bye bye niacin.

BTW. Found this quite useful calculator for figuring out exact quantities in the solution, scroll down the page: http://www.physiologyweb.com/calculators/percent_solutions_calculator.html

To mimic solban, per 100ml of water...

Niacinamide / Nicotinamide - 4% concentration (by volume) = 4g
Caffeine - 1% concentration (by volume) = 1g
Aspirin - 1% concentration (by volume) = 1g

Is that what you got?

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Post  iuyyighghghgkh Wed Jul 22, 2015 4:36 am

for 100ml, yes, but I do 60ml

also, I can no longer reccomend topical d ribose.

My skin has began to turn brown where I apply it for some reason and it's not very good.

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Post  Columbo Wed Jul 22, 2015 5:11 am

Will give the topical d-ribose a swerve then

Re-added unfortified brewers yeast back to my daily diet, which has 105% RDA of riboflavin, so that should cover d-ribose internally, at least
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Post  Hairbeback Wed Jul 22, 2015 6:53 am

How can you tell the difference between a boar bristle brush if it is fake or not?

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Post  iuyyighghghgkh Wed Jul 22, 2015 9:59 am

Hairbeback wrote:How can you tell the difference between a boar bristle brush if it is fake or not?

not sure

never used them topically

but use one for shaving


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Post  turbojet Wed Jul 22, 2015 12:48 pm

Overmachogrande used to recommend a niacin based topical before using a laser helmet. When I read the ingredients in Solban I decided to give it a shot before LLLT and so far I like it. My only concern is that the ethanol has a bit of a drying effect on the hair/scalp.

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Post  iuyyighghghgkh Wed Jul 22, 2015 1:26 pm

Low level laser therapy and niacinamide do the same thing

reduce plasma nitric oxide, uncoupling of respiration etc

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Post  iuyyighghghgkh Thu Jul 23, 2015 9:58 am

niacinamide dissolves in water and mixtures

niacin does not and cannot.


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Post  Growdamnit Thu Jul 23, 2015 12:05 pm

How much experience do you have with this topical? What are your results like?

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Post  iuyyighghghgkh Fri Jul 24, 2015 4:19 am

I have about 4 months experience using topical niacin and caffeine for hair, after about 5 years of using oils and magic potions.

I made the initial mistake of using niacin/not niacinamide.

Yes, they work well for hair. The science for topical caffeine/niacinamide/aspirin and low level lasers for hair is there.

This is by far the most realistic way to regrow hair through topicals

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Post  Growdamnit Fri Jul 24, 2015 11:42 am

But what are your results? Solban just arrived. Starting to use it.

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Post  iuyyighghghgkh Fri Jul 24, 2015 1:15 pm

new hairs

more terminal hairs

faster growth of existing hair

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Post  Growdamnit Sun Jul 26, 2015 3:19 pm

How often do you apply? Morning and night?

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Post  iuyyighghghgkh Mon Jul 27, 2015 7:09 am

custom experimental caffeine shampoo in the morning

laser midday

solban at night

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Post  abetz85 Tue Jul 28, 2015 1:38 am

iuyyighghghgkh wrote:I have about 4 months experience using topical niacin and caffeine for hair, after about 5 years of using oils and magic potions.

I made the initial mistake of using niacin/not niacinamide.

Yes, they work well for hair. The science for topical caffeine/niacinamide/aspirin and low level lasers for hair is there.

This is by far the most realistic way to regrow hair through topicals

Hi iuyyighghghgkh, is niacin absolutely to avoid or it can be used to some degree, I have just bought 100grams to make my own solban but now I don't know if it could result in something dangerous.

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Post  iuyyighghghgkh Tue Jul 28, 2015 4:14 am

I prefer topical niacinamide, simply because I have read it is better for hair and skin topically.

Niacin causes the flush, even topically, which is not advisable

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Post  abetz85 Tue Jul 28, 2015 5:35 am

Thank you for the reply, for now i will go with niacin in low dose and see the effect on the skin. There are also many good studies on topical niacin so it shouldn't be so bad.

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Post  ElmoSuper8 Tue Jul 28, 2015 8:56 am

Hi iuyyighghghgkh, do you use Energin by Idealabs?

I got some and it smells pretty overpowering and stains the skin (because of the riboflavin), so I was wondering how you use it. I have been rubbing it on the soles of my feet, but I can still smell it.

So was wondering how you use it, if you have it?

Cheers.

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Post  iuyyighghghgkh Tue Jul 28, 2015 11:23 am

I never considered it a priority for hair loss .

So, no, I would not use it or put it in the top 6, although it's a good supplement.

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Post  ElmoSuper8 Tue Jul 28, 2015 11:56 am

Oh, I thought you said you took all the Idealabs products. Which ones do you take?

Also, what are the '3 or 4 very basic supplements' you take?

Cheers.

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