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Post  shaftless Mon Dec 11, 2023 2:13 pm

How about that kissing disease, mononucleosis? It's spread by infected saliva so they say. And there's lots of proof for that with all the teenagers and college students coming down with it compared to older age groups who don't kiss anymore lol.

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Post  CausticSymmetry Mon Dec 11, 2023 2:41 pm

shaftless wrote:How about that kissing disease, mononucleosis? It's spread by infected saliva so they say. And there's lots of proof for that with all the teenagers and college students coming down with it compared to older age groups who don't kiss anymore lol.

Antibody titres associated with mononucleosis and this disease which is frequently diagnosed by symptoms, however is allegedly 'caused' by Epstein-Barr virus (EBV).

The issue is that because of these false, unscientific beliefs researchers are not looking for the real cause.

I have suspected for a long time that it is caused by \/@ccine poisoning.

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Post  Longshanks Wed Dec 13, 2023 6:23 pm

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shaftless wrote:How about that kissing disease, mononucleosis? It's spread by infected saliva so they say. And there's lots of proof for that with all the teenagers and college students coming down with it compared to older age groups who don't kiss anymore lol.

Antibody titres associated with mononucleosis and this disease which is frequently diagnosed by symptoms, however is allegedly 'caused' by Epstein-Barr virus (EBV).

The issue is that because of these false, unscientific beliefs researchers are not looking for the real cause.

I have suspected for a long time that it is caused by \/@ccine poisoning.

Again, these diseases are only spread through sexual intercourse, or bodily exchange of fluids, so to say that both parties have a deficiency of some minerals/vitamins you would have to prove both parties have this deficiency at the same time..that results in the exact same symptoms we know of said virus. That might be a possibility, but we all know certain women that gave the crabs or other STD’s to the guys in college back in the day. Not sure if I’m buying it.

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Post  CausticSymmetry Thu Dec 14, 2023 1:45 am

The previous page had this link and others, this one mentions the clap

https://drsambailey.com/resources/videos/germ-theory/what-we-werent-taught-about-gonorrhea/

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Post  Longshanks Thu Dec 14, 2023 3:21 pm

CausticSymmetry wrote:The previous page had this link and others, this one mentions the clap

https://drsambailey.com/resources/videos/germ-theory/what-we-werent-taught-about-gonorrhea/

Interesting watch, thank you

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Post  shaftless Fri Dec 15, 2023 4:25 pm

How about genital warts? If you were wart-free initially and then after sex you develop those bumps down there, and your partner has those bumps down there too, then can we logically connect the warts, erm...dots...and presume that those bumps were transmitted? Especially if they show up in the same place where contact was made?

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Post  CausticSymmetry Sat Dec 16, 2023 3:13 pm

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In 2007, scientists took the so-called pathogenic bacteria Clostridium perfringens (which is claimed to cause food poisoning) and grew it on three separate growth mediums; (1) Brain Heart Infusion, (2) Cooked Meat Medium, (3) Tryptone Glucose Yeast. The scientists then filtered the growth medium fluid (to remove the bacteria), and exposed it to healthy rodents. Growth medium (1) was highly lethal to the rodents, (2) was less lethal, and (3) was not lethal at all. The results of this experiment show that the metabolic waste produced by bacteria are entirely dependent upon the environment they are living in. In other words, the thing that determined whether the rodents would die was not the presence of the bacteria, but the food they were metabolizing.

Source: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17402614/

In the human body, the role of bacteria is to decompose dead and dying tissue. Their job is to clean house. If the tissue they are decomposing is toxic, then their metabolic waste products will also be toxic. Think of bacteria like a waste disposal and clean up crew. Imagine one day a truck carrying barrels of water overturned on the highway. The clean-up crew arrived to clean up the mess, putting the debris into waste bags (metabolic waste). When some of the general public came in contact with the waste bags, nothing happened to them. A week later, another truck turned over on the highway carrying barrels of toxic sludge containing petrochemicals and heavy metals. Once again, the clean up crew arrived, putting the debris into waste bags. When some of the general public came in contact with these bags, they became sick. No one would blame the clean up crew as the cause of the problem. They were just there doing a job in response to the spill after it happened. This is the exact same thing as bacteria. They don’t cause the problem, they are the consequence, or response to the problem.

It is time for us to re-think our relationship with germs?

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Post  CausticSymmetry Sat Dec 16, 2023 4:07 pm

shaftless wrote:How about genital warts? If you were wart-free initially and then after sex you develop those bumps down there, and your partner has those bumps down there too, then can we logically connect the warts, erm...dots...and presume that those bumps were transmitted? Especially if they show up in the same place where contact was made?

When the pro-\/accine advocates proclaim, "correlation is not causation." (as in the \/ causing neurological damage as in autism for example) it is a true statement. Meaning that scientifically, we cannot assert that Quackcines are the *only* cause or *the* cause. Just for the record, there were experiments by the CDC that were tossed into the garbage that did show a link that was damning. Anyway, that said Quackcines and other toxins in part or in combination can cause this sort of damage. As long as \/accine research is not conducted in the proper scientific manner, they will not admit anything.

However, various phenomenon may have multiple causes and not necessarily attributed to a single toxin.

So does genital warts have a cause?

If you consult mainstream, then they will blame it (condyloma acuminatum) or genital warts on human papillomavirus (HPV), specifically 6 and 11 and by the way, with no real scientific proof. Instead just the usual indirect test with antibodies and PCR. Zero evidence of cause and effect.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK441884/

Also, if one takes the time and really reads carefully, words such as, "may" are used in each case....the word, may is suggestive and not a proven fact, only speculation.

In order to really prove it, they need to do this first

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Here's their "proof" if you want to examine it: https://www.uptodate.com/contents/condylomata-acuminata-anogenital-warts-treatment-of-vulvar-and-vaginal-warts/abstract/1-3

The problem here is various facets of society have ingrained this unproven 'cause' as if it's been vetted with the best and the brightest for centuries.

The problem is magnified by the unfortunate fact that since the 'cause' is already believed to be known, there is no research looking into the real why or how.

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Post  shaftless Sat Dec 16, 2023 4:33 pm

Who doesn't love a good debate? lol Maybe that particular yeast culture inhibited the growth of the bacteria? Some yeasts do produce compounds that are able to do that and maybe that's why the rodents who got the yeast serum didn't get sick.

Also, why would a heart and brains environment create more toxins for the bacteria to feed on than a cooked meat or yeast environment? It's all biological material without any outside chemical contamination like lead or arsenic that might come from any lab equipment they used. Do they analyze the brain, heart, cooked meat and yeast samples first to test for toxins already present in them before doing this experiment? You'd think that they would use just healthy, pure ingredients scratch

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Post  CausticSymmetry Sun Dec 17, 2023 6:53 am

shaftless wrote:Who doesn't love a good debate? lol Maybe that particular yeast culture inhibited the growth of the bacteria? Some yeasts do produce compounds that are able to do that and maybe that's why the rodents who got the yeast serum didn't get sick.

Also, why would a heart and brains environment create more toxins for the bacteria to feed on than a cooked meat or yeast environment? It's all biological material without any outside chemical contamination like lead or arsenic that might come from any lab equipment they used. Do they analyze the brain, heart, cooked meat and yeast samples first to test for toxins already present in them before doing this experiment? You'd think that they would use just healthy, pure ingredients scratch

This paper followed the previous about a year later and might answer some of your questions.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18460610/

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Post  shaftless Sun Dec 17, 2023 8:05 am

Granted the terrain has an effect on micro-organism's behaviour. But the tricky part is these enterotoxins. How does the bacteria produce them? Are they just reconstituted toxins that were inside us all along but was not making us sick at the time and the bacteria somehow concentrated them? Google says enterotoxins produced by bacteria are macro-proteins. So they are not chemical pollutants that got inside us somehow. So it does seem that the bacteria are making these new structures that cause trouble to our digestive system. Almost like a naturally-made venom from snakes.

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Post  CausticSymmetry Sun Dec 17, 2023 8:27 am

shaftless wrote:Granted the terrain has an effect on micro-organism's behaviour. But the tricky part is these enterotoxins. How does the bacteria produce them? Are they just reconstituted toxins that were inside us all along but was not making us sick at the time and the bacteria somehow concentrated them? Google says enterotoxins produced by bacteria are macro-proteins. So they are not chemical pollutants that got inside us somehow. So it does seem that the bacteria are making these new structures that cause trouble to our digestive system. Almost like a naturally-made venom from snakes.

These enterotoxins are derivived from the sheeps intestinal cells, so it's hardly surprising they would be more toxic than bacteria extracted from another place.

The best way I think to explain why some bacteria are toxic in one place versus another is pleomorphism.

This phenomenon of indigenous bacteria alter their morphology (shape), biological functions, or reproductive modes depending on the conditions they encounter. For instance, some bacteria can switch between rod-shaped and spherical forms, or produce different types of spores or filaments.

G00gle is astroturf central or gatekeepers of the status quo to keep the "sheep" (herd-mentality) who feel more comfortable with mainstream messaging to bring them back into line if they "fact-check" information that goes against the popular disinformation.

If a root canal procedure is performed to 'save' a tooth that is dead, the body's immune response will alter the terrain in that area that lacks a local blood supply and no longer has the ability for the body to usher in macrophages to clean (the dead material away), so the native, indigenous bacteria in that area will convert (pleomorphism) into an anaerobic (without-oxygen) bacteria. In this case, they are now feeding off of dead material, for which the body chemical tags as toxic and non-self.

After that happens, the body is now negatively affected because of electron depletion. The cause of this is the excrement from the bacteria's food source, the dead material, so that waste product is called a bacterial endotoxin.

Remember the resident bacteria were previously a normal shape and different from than present.

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Post  shaftless Sun Dec 17, 2023 3:10 pm

But macrophages, "pleophied" or just normal ones, are always cleaning up dead material in our bodies without making us sick with their poop. Maybe certain bacteria's poop is more toxic than others? I'm still stumped lol.

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Post  shaftless Mon Dec 18, 2023 1:56 am

Lately there's been an outbreak of food poisoning in both canada and the US linked to salmonella bacteria. Multiple deaths have occurred. If the only change to our terrain was eating a fruit with a specific strain of bacteria that doesn't normally reside in us (even tho it can in small quantities in some people) then doesn't it mean that too much of this bacteria and its poop is bad for us? I doubt that it was other pathogens in the melons like pesticide residue that is causing it since all crop producers use pesticides and a lot more people would be getting sick. These affected melons are from a particular source.

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Post  shaftless Mon Dec 18, 2023 2:24 am

Forgive me for being so inquisitive...sundays always puts me those moods lol. I was thinking about that root canal scenario where pleomorphed macrophages are now doing the job of normal ones since normal ones can't get there cuz the root canal got rid of the pulp and nerves and blood supply. Isn't the tooth now mummified? There is no longer dead and rotting material for macros to dispose of since it was all dug out and replaced.

But I can see where pleomorphism can be a cause of stress on the body (electron depletion) when necessary bacteria doing one important job are being morphed to do another job... "stretching" the work force so to say. It only makes sense that the body will ultimately suffer.

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Post  CausticSymmetry Mon Dec 18, 2023 10:23 am

shaftless wrote:But macrophages, "pleophied" or just normal ones, are always cleaning up dead material in our bodies without making us sick with their poop. Maybe certain bacteria's poop is more toxic than others? I'm still stumped lol.

This is terrain theory and there's better support scientifically than germ theory.

Oxygen breathing bacteria will convert via pleomorphism to without oxygen state.

Pro-germ believers would get confused as they assumed these were 'infections' but they were not.


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Post  CausticSymmetry Mon Dec 18, 2023 10:36 am

shaftless wrote:Lately there's been an outbreak of food poisoning in both Canada and the US linked to salmonella bacteria. Multiple deaths have occurred. If the only change to our terrain was eating a fruit with a specific strain of bacteria that doesn't normally reside in us (even tho it can in small quantities in some people) then doesn't it mean that too much of this bacteria and its poop is bad for us? I doubt that it was other pathogens in the melons like pesticide residue that is causing it since all crop producers use pesticides and a lot more people would be getting sick. These affected melons are from a particular source.

Egg bacteria associated contamination hoax was maneuvered to push the new food-safety bill through congress to give the FDA unfettered powers.

First of all, Salmonella is indigenous bacteria, just like E-coli is...and let's say someone has a "strep" infection...well that comes up positive regardless if the patient is sick or has symptoms or not.

I would suggest reading (for free--download here) "The Milk Book" by William Campbell Douglass

https://openlibrary.org/works/OL27960411W/The_milk_book

It will cover in-depth, the nefarious, ulterior reasons for brain-washing the public over raw diary products.

In short, it benefits the industry and punishes the consumer.

Salmonella and E. coli do thrive under the conditions typical in factory farms, including grain-feeding, crowding, and rapid, mechanized slaughter. Overuse of antibiotics on factory farms has also led to resistance to common antibiotics in strains of salmonella, campylobacter, and E. coli.

When animals consume their native diet, then these "outbreaks" are non-existent. So what is happening here? They are blaming the bacteria instead of fecal waste the animals are living in...so when you hear Salmonella, think excrement contaminated.

On the root canal question, this was just released recently: https://orthomolecular.activehosted.com/index.php?action=social&chash=11b9842e0a271ff252c1903e7132cd68.302&s=bc3fe6cf12ffe595ef9f9b243d889657

Also more info revealed here: https://www.medicinenon.it/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Published-Root-Canal-Paper.pdf

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Post  shaftless Mon Dec 18, 2023 2:57 pm

I think both the terrain and the bacteria have to share the blame. A certain bacteria in the stomach may pose no problem. But if that same bacteria gets into the intestines, which has a different terrain than the stomach, then the bacteria may act differently and cause harm. Kinda like water. It's ok if we drink it but so not good if we inhale it. Tell me there's some truth in that lol.

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Post  CausticSymmetry Mon Dec 18, 2023 3:09 pm

shaftless wrote:I think both the terrain and the bacteria have to share the blame. A certain bacteria in the stomach may pose no problem. But if that same bacteria gets into the intestines, which has a different terrain than the stomach, then the bacteria may act differently and cause harm. Kinda like water. It's ok if we drink it but so not good if we inhale it. Tell me there's some truth in that lol.

Lots of good points on sanitation which is the missing equation in this discussion.
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Several photos in this link capture the point without even having to read.

http://whale.to/vaccine/sanitation.html

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Symptoms are not the cause of disease.
1. Cholesterol is not the cause of cardiovascular disease.
2. Antibodies are not the cause of autoimmune disease.
3. Neurochemical imbalance is not the cause of depression.
4. Elevated blood sugar is not the cause of diabetes.
5. High blood pressure is not the cause of heart disease.
6. Inflammation is not the cause of disease.

All of these things are symptoms. Blaming symptoms as the cause of disease, implies the body caused the problem, randomly, without provocation, independently of any external inputs.

Symptoms are the body's healing response. When you get a splinter in your finger, the inflammation, pus, swelling, pain, redness, tenderness etc are all symptoms. They are the body's healing response. No one thinks that the inflammation caused the splinter.

If we are to ever truly understand health and disease, we must find and remove the splinter instead of blaming disease on symptoms and then suppressing them.

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Shedding, \/accines & Graphene Machines

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Post  shaftless Wed Dec 20, 2023 4:10 pm

Our bodies constantly being monitored by the gov't with those graphite nanoparticles. That's not exactly all that bad. You could say it's 24/7 healthcare. We would be monitored and emailed updates on our health status and told if anything looks unusual like a tumor growing. Good to catch these things early Very Happy

I dunno. It's been 3 long yrs with these covid mrna vaccines and there's no army of zombies walking around doing whatever messages they are receiving from our nefarious gov'ts. What would they want us lowly average citizens to do anyway? Especially without being properly trained for these (important?) tasks that only they conceived  scratch

As for particles being shed thru the air from vaccinated people coughing...just wear a mask. Our health system wants us to wear masks anyway. Hmmm, what if these gov't supplied masks actually had nanoparticles in them? Shocked

And just think about blood donations. Donated blood is constantly being used in hospitals and would be a big way of transmitting these vaccine particles to even more people. But still everyone seems pretty normal. Hey that would be a good way to get rid of these particles in your system. Just give your blood away. Unless they are self-replicating nanoparticles. But then too much replication might be bad for the host cuz these particles could get into organs and disrupt necessary internal systems making us sick and therefore useless to carry out dirty deeds, done dirt cheap  Wink

Meh... I never really saw anything in this Bailey doctor...except that she's got a really cute smile.

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Post  CausticSymmetry Thu Dec 21, 2023 10:02 am

shaftless wrote:Our bodies constantly being monitored by the gov't with those graphite nanoparticles. That's not exactly all that bad. You could say it's 24/7 healthcare. We would be monitored and emailed updates on our health status and told if anything looks unusual like a tumor growing. Good to catch these things early Very Happy

I dunno. It's been 3 long yrs with these covid mrna vaccines and there's no army of zombies walking around doing whatever messages they are receiving from our nefarious gov'ts. What would they want us lowly average citizens to do anyway? Especially without being properly trained for these (important?) tasks that only they conceived  scratch

As for particles being shed thru the air from vaccinated people coughing...just wear a mask. Our health system wants us to wear masks anyway. Hmmm, what if these gov't supplied masks actually had nanoparticles in them? Shocked

And just think about blood donations. Donated blood is constantly being used in hospitals and would be a big way of transmitting these vaccine particles to even more people. But still everyone seems pretty normal. Hey that would be a good way to get rid of these particles in your system. Just give your blood away. Unless they are self-replicating nanoparticles. But then too much replication might be bad for the host cuz these particles could get into organs and disrupt necessary internal systems making us sick and therefore useless to carry out dirty deeds, done dirt cheap  Wink

Meh... I never really saw anything in this Bailey doctor...except that she's got a really cute smile.

In this presentation by Dr. Sam Bailey, she uncharacteristically avoided her patented grin. She just presented facts, and said that not all is known. However, what is known really destroys virology science, as there is none.

Virology manuals dictate that the same methodology for isolating exosomes should be applied to virology. However, it isn't, because they will always find nothing.

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Post  Longshanks Thu Dec 21, 2023 12:06 pm

CausticSymmetry wrote:
shaftless wrote:How about genital warts? If you were wart-free initially and then after sex you develop those bumps down there, and your partner has those bumps down there too, then can we logically connect the warts, erm...dots...and presume that those bumps were transmitted? Especially if they show up in the same place where contact was made?

When the pro-\/accine advocates proclaim, "correlation is not causation." (as in the \/ causing neurological damage as in autism for example) it is a true statement. Meaning that scientifically, we cannot assert that Quackcines are the *only* cause or *the* cause. Just for the record, there were experiments by the CDC that were tossed into the garbage that did show a link that was damning. Anyway, that said Quackcines and other toxins in part or in combination can cause this sort of damage. As long as \/accine research is not conducted in the proper scientific manner, they will not admit anything.

However, various phenomenon may have multiple causes and not necessarily attributed to a single toxin.

So does genital warts have a cause?

If you consult mainstream, then they will blame it (condyloma acuminatum) or genital warts on human papillomavirus (HPV), specifically 6 and 11 and by the way, with no real scientific proof. Instead just the usual indirect test with antibodies and PCR. Zero evidence of cause and effect.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK441884/

Also, if one takes the time and really reads carefully, words such as, "may" are used in each case....the word, may is suggestive and not a proven fact, only speculation.

In order to really prove it, they need to do this first

*The first scientific evidence in 2021 that viruses do not exist* - Page 30 Kocks_10

Here's their "proof" if you want to examine it: https://www.uptodate.com/contents/condylomata-acuminata-anogenital-warts-treatment-of-vulvar-and-vaginal-warts/abstract/1-3

The problem here is various facets of society have ingrained this unproven 'cause' as if it's been vetted with the best and the brightest for centuries.

The problem is magnified by the unfortunate fact that since the 'cause' is already believed to be known, there is no research looking into the real why or how.

Good chit CS! I’m wondering do you know of any natural treatments for cysts (on the ovaries)? I realize this is way off topic, but figured you might have some insight. My wife is prone to them, but ironically enough her birth control has kept them at bay. However she stopped take the pill as we believe it was causing too many negative side effects, do you know any natural remedies that might help?

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Post  CausticSymmetry Thu Dec 21, 2023 3:04 pm

Longshanks - I can generalize on the treatment, however medical history is often a critical piece. That said, you did drop one interesting tidbit on the birth control, which is probably either a Premarin-based and or conjugated-estrogen and progestin combo.

Natural treatments for cysts (on the ovaries), so yes research is not clear on the cause, but probably  related to the suppression of ovulation, the stimulation of ovarian follicles (FSH), or Luteinizing hormone (LH), or a sensitivity to  gonadotrophins.

So frequent dosing of very high dose serrapeptase. This embolizes (digests them)

https://www.iherb.com/pr/arthur-andrew-medical-serretia-pure-serrapeptase-250-000-spu-90-capsules-125-000-spu-per-capsule/40061?=hil335

That said there are additional things can that be done to act as a way to prevent future ones, because birth-control absolutely can increase the risk.  Estrogen preparations inhibit thyroid, so would normally suggest certain types of iodine, but not necessarily a good idea just coming off of BC, and then there's progesterone (natural), not progestin, because it can cause cysts-The natural form shrinks them, the synthetic form creates them.

Iodine shrinks cysts, but note the above info.

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Post  shaftless Fri Dec 22, 2023 1:48 am

I just thot that she was a little out of form talking about these mind-control graphene particles. I've never heard her husband carry on about them. He just sticks to the fallacies of virology. But maybe that gets boring after a while and you have to spice things up a little. Looking back at the video, it is a bit dated made back in early 2022 when a lot of those theories were flying around.

I think we don't have to worry about vaccines anymore. People are staying away from them in droves. They just can't be bothered and think any viral infection has minimal consequences these days.

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