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Re: *The first scientific evidence in 2021 that viruses do not exist*
So nobody ever thought of using the illumina test for a control experiment? Or they have but couldn't confirm anything? There's lots of sites on google that mention the illumina test for sars. This is getting complicated for me. Anyway, just one last question before my sanity finally goes lol...if we accept the the existence of virus-like particles like exomeres, how hard would it be for a real virus to exist?
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shaftless wrote:So nobody ever thought of using the illumina test for a control experiment? Or they have but couldn't confirm anything? There's lots of sites on google that mention the illumina test for sars. This is getting complicated for me. Anyway, just one last question before my sanity finally goes lol...if we accept the the existence of virus-like particles like exosomes, how hard would it be for a real virus to exist?
No worries, this is actually simpler than it seems.
If looking at the top photo, you'll see samples of samples of lung gavage or sputum are put through traditional virologist "lab isolation" methods. Note that their definition of 'isolation' is not accurate, because correctly termed, it is purification if performed on other "non-viral cultures"
In the control experiment, it is exactly the same as the above photo, except for no sputum or lung gavage used. In other words, all of same procedures are used without any sample that is alleged to contain a virus.
What destroys the tissue in the culture medium, which typically contains a combination of vero cells (monkey kidney cells), bovine serum or other source of minimal nutrition, combined with one to two antibiotics which are known to be toxic to kidney cells.
Just by the statement alone, you can probably surmise that what causes a death of the tissue culture is the antibiotics, not the alleged sample of an "infected person's" sputum.
So the only thing missing was a basic control experiment, which proves that the procedure itself is what kills the cells, not an alleged virus.
After that is the collecting and analyzing the biological data such as genetic codes.
Many people wonder, how do they come up with the sequences? The answer is they take a strand of genetic material
and use a computer to search through a gene database to fill in theoretical fragments to compete the made-up sequence.
Now regarding exosomes and/or Extracellular vesicles (EVs). We already know what happens when we inject them, no disease is created, but in fact just the opposite. They themselves are used as biomarkers for certain diseases, because this is nothing more than a result of sloughing or shedding cells after an injury or disease. However, when injected we typically see benefits.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6713086/
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So if they can isolate EVs from sloughed cells and inject them or observe them circulating...can't they do this with so-called viruses? Just gather a lot of virus-ladened sputum from a person with the flu and inject it. They already did experiments by injecting engineered oncolytic viruses into cancerous mice which resulted in high levels of T cells to enter tumors.
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The rumours that SARS-CoV-2 is a bioweapon from a lab are back!
Has anything changed in the discussion or evidence regarding the "Wuhan virus" theory since the first rumours of 2020? No... The same arguments are still being used and they are still irrelevant.
The genetic strand of SARS-CoV-2 IS man-made. And YES, it comes in principle from a laboratory in Wuhan. But it is a MODEL! SARS-CoV-2 is nothing more than a computer model. It never was and never will be more than that.
The rumours surrounding bioweapons and the "Wuhan virus" generate exactly two things: fear and hatred. Both are poor advisers and neither help anyone.
"As you can see now, the best bioweapon there is, is fear."
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Read the full article at www.projekt-immanuel.de
Has anything changed in the discussion or evidence regarding the "Wuhan virus" theory since the first rumours of 2020? No... The same arguments are still being used and they are still irrelevant.
The genetic strand of SARS-CoV-2 IS man-made. And YES, it comes in principle from a laboratory in Wuhan. But it is a MODEL! SARS-CoV-2 is nothing more than a computer model. It never was and never will be more than that.
The rumours surrounding bioweapons and the "Wuhan virus" generate exactly two things: fear and hatred. Both are poor advisers and neither help anyone.
"As you can see now, the best bioweapon there is, is fear."
- Stefan Lanka -
Read the full article at www.projekt-immanuel.de
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shaftless wrote:So if they can isolate EVs from sloughed cells and inject them or observe them circulating...can't they do this with so-called viruses? Just gather a lot of virus-ladened sputum from a person with the flu and inject it. They already did experiments by injecting engineered oncolytic viruses into cancerous mice which resulted in high levels of T cells to enter tumors.
A quote from Stefan Lanka that would explain the confusion over retroviruses, which is assumed to be
a type of cancer treatment.
"While studying the evolutionary aspects of biology, I quickly
realized that reverse transcription is common to all forms of life , and
in fact is the basis of all higher living. Later I learned that reverse
transcription is a repair mechanism for chromosomal DNA. But the
mainstream of molecular genetics is still committed to the central dogma:
'There is no such thing as reverse transcription from RNA to DNA.' In
1970, when they detected biochemically that there is a reverse flow of
genetic material, they didn’t give up the dogma or even try to change it.
Instead, they called it an exception to the central dogma of molecular
genetics, and explained it by postulating the existence of retroviruses."
This video will explain in more detail (after the first few minutes)
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Info on graphene here.
https://katrinah.com/graphene-oxide-part-1/
From here we began to study the toxicity or cytotoxicity that graphene oxide has on the body.
Pay attention to this finding
Graphene oxide inside the body causes thrombogenicity, thrombi.
Graphene oxide inside the body causes blood clotting.
Graphene oxide inside the body causes post inflammatory syndrome or systemic or multi-organ inflammations.
Graphene oxide inside the body when it is above the levels of glutathione —which is the body’s natural reserve of antioxidants—, causes alteration of the immune system, collapse of the immune system and cytokine storm.
Inhaled graphene oxide spreads evenly throughout the alveolar tract and causes bilateral pneumonias.
Inhaled graphene oxide causes inflammation of the mucous membranes and thus loss of taste and smell, possible loss of taste and smell: anosmia.
In short, graphene oxide behaves exactly like the supposed SARS-CoV-2 of the official version, generating the same symptomatology of severe COVID-19.
When installed at the neuronal level, it causes neurodegeneration or, in other words, neurological COVID-19.
https://katrinah.com/graphene-oxide-part-1/
From here we began to study the toxicity or cytotoxicity that graphene oxide has on the body.
Pay attention to this finding
Graphene oxide inside the body causes thrombogenicity, thrombi.
Graphene oxide inside the body causes blood clotting.
Graphene oxide inside the body causes post inflammatory syndrome or systemic or multi-organ inflammations.
Graphene oxide inside the body when it is above the levels of glutathione —which is the body’s natural reserve of antioxidants—, causes alteration of the immune system, collapse of the immune system and cytokine storm.
Inhaled graphene oxide spreads evenly throughout the alveolar tract and causes bilateral pneumonias.
Inhaled graphene oxide causes inflammation of the mucous membranes and thus loss of taste and smell, possible loss of taste and smell: anosmia.
In short, graphene oxide behaves exactly like the supposed SARS-CoV-2 of the official version, generating the same symptomatology of severe COVID-19.
When installed at the neuronal level, it causes neurodegeneration or, in other words, neurological COVID-19.
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Re: *The first scientific evidence in 2021 that viruses do not exist*
shaftless wrote:sigh....
Let's try reach understanding here though?
Truth reconciles, and we need to be able to explore
'alternative' ideas and challenge mainstream thinking
in order to get there.
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Wouldn't seem odd that if the virus theory of infection were true, then why hasn't there even been a scientific experiment that validated this theory?
The only reason it's lasted this long is because a trillion dollar industry is thriving on its heels. Over a period of some decades, the medical cartel has quietly taken over the halls of science and academia to a point where it's because a political
nightmare. Those question the $cience get destroyed.
The only way to stop this is to inform the people of this fraud.
The only reason it's lasted this long is because a trillion dollar industry is thriving on its heels. Over a period of some decades, the medical cartel has quietly taken over the halls of science and academia to a point where it's because a political
nightmare. Those question the $cience get destroyed.
The only way to stop this is to inform the people of this fraud.
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In this video we would like to introduce Project Immanuel, which critically examines the scientific background of the so-called "Corona Crisis." With the help of the natural scientist and virologist Dr. Stefan Lanka, all fundamental publications on SARS-CoV-2 and COVID-19 are closely scrutinised and scientifically examined in a series of posts.
Our main objective is to make science understandable to everyone. All the necessary technical terms and scientific procedures of virology and microbiology that one needs to know and understand are explained in a way that is easy for everyone to comprehend and illustrated with many examples.
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Mike Adams "the health ranger" has been awakened. Frustrated over years observing his fear mongering over
non-existent viruses, he has finally seen the light. Kudos to him for being open minded enough to change his view.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/ahJK3MiwlBnx/
non-existent viruses, he has finally seen the light. Kudos to him for being open minded enough to change his view.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/ahJK3MiwlBnx/
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VIRUSES AND SICKNESS - THE EVIDENCE
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Makes you wonder though if the electrification of the earth started the 1919 pandemic, then how did it come to an end if the pace of electrification kept growing and growing? The pandemic should have been never-ending and getting worse as the earth kept getting more electrified year after year.
I also tried looking up what he said about those experiments where sick people coughed at healthy people and they put bags over horses heads trying to see if there was transmission. I could not find anything on google that mentioned these experiments way back when. These experiments were probably done at universities, hospitals or clinics under some kind of control with doctors and scientists and volunteers etc. You'd think that there would be some record of these experiments archived in their data banks and made public to anyone searching for it...at least to the internet by now. It's not like it was top secret or anything back then so they shouldn't have any qualms sharing this bit of history. This guy on the video seemed to have found out about those experiments pretty easy. If anyone can find any links about these failed attempts at proving transmission please share. It would be an interesting read.
I also tried looking up what he said about those experiments where sick people coughed at healthy people and they put bags over horses heads trying to see if there was transmission. I could not find anything on google that mentioned these experiments way back when. These experiments were probably done at universities, hospitals or clinics under some kind of control with doctors and scientists and volunteers etc. You'd think that there would be some record of these experiments archived in their data banks and made public to anyone searching for it...at least to the internet by now. It's not like it was top secret or anything back then so they shouldn't have any qualms sharing this bit of history. This guy on the video seemed to have found out about those experiments pretty easy. If anyone can find any links about these failed attempts at proving transmission please share. It would be an interesting read.
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shaftless wrote:Makes you wonder though if the electrification of the earth started the 1919 pandemic, then how did it come to an end if the pace of electrification kept growing and growing? The pandemic should have been never-ending and getting worse as the earth kept getting more electrified year after year.
I also tried looking up what he said about those experiments where sick people coughed at healthy people and they put bags over horses heads trying to see if there was transmission. I could not find anything on google that mentioned these experiments way back when. These experiments were probably done at universities, hospitals or clinics under some kind of control with doctors and scientists and volunteers etc. You'd think that there would be some record of these experiments archived in their data banks and made public to anyone searching for it...at least to the internet by now. It's not like it was top secret or anything back then so they shouldn't have any qualms sharing this bit of history. This guy on the video seemed to have found out about those experiments pretty easy. If anyone can find any links about these failed attempts at proving transmission please share. It would be an interesting read.
Direct experience is also reliable, and very powerful.
with electrification, our bodies would have adjusted, but the initial shock I imagine is what would cause the symptoms to appear.
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shaftless wrote:Makes you wonder though if the electrification of the earth started the 1919 pandemic, then how did it come to an end if the pace of electrification kept growing and growing? The pandemic should have been never-ending and getting worse as the earth kept getting more electrified year after year.
I also tried looking up what he said about those experiments where sick people coughed at healthy people and they put bags over horses heads trying to see if there was transmission. I could not find anything on google that mentioned these experiments way back when. These experiments were probably done at universities, hospitals or clinics under some kind of control with doctors and scientists and volunteers etc. You'd think that there would be some record of these experiments archived in their data banks and made public to anyone searching for it...at least to the internet by now. It's not like it was top secret or anything back then so they shouldn't have any qualms sharing this bit of history. This guy on the video seemed to have found out about those experiments pretty easy. If anyone can find any links about these failed attempts at proving transmission please share. It would be an interesting read.
Spanish flu was not contagious. (MJ Rosenau, “Experiments to Determine Mode of Spread of
Influenza,” Journal of the American Medical Association 73, no. 5 (August 2, 1919): 311–313).
Google is part of the problem. Using Google is unthinkable beyond just film and casual trifles.
Google itself is heavily complicit. Not just on the current scam-demic crime (conspiracy for starters), but complicit in censoring and deleting information (supporting a crime).
Well before the fake p@ndemic, they have been actively making it more difficult to obtain simple health resolutions.
Websites I used well over 10 years ago, no longer are possible to find on Google. This is by design to keep people dependent on drugs and feeling completely helpless.
Lots of detail on the electrify factor that goes well beyond the Spanish Flu, here's a summary version of the book.
The book covers everything from early electrical experiments; global electrification and influenza; worldwide radio and the Spanish flu; cell phones and increased death; 5G implementation and the spread of CV19 symptoms of electrical sensitivity; evidence of harm from millimetre wave technology.
https://www.5gexposed.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/English-Summary-of-The-Invisible-Rainbow-A-History-of-Electricity-and-Life-3.pdf
Also, for more details on contagion tests, go here:
https://mask-covid.info/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/The-Contagion-Myth-Notes-Synopsis-1.pdf
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"Until 1951, the idea of a virus
was defined as a pathogenic agent, a toxic protein, a toxin. In the
years before, some scientists doing actual science, checked their
assumptions, namely by control experiments. In doing so, they
found two things: the decomposition of completely healthy
tissues and organs produces the same proteins as the de-
composition of “diseased” material, which was misinterpreted
as viruses. Furthermore animal testing methods caused the
symptoms of the ‘diseases’ rather than the proteins misinterpreted
as viruses that were blamed as the triggers."
"Few doctors and only very attentive readers of professional
journals noticed that science, as it had often been in the past,
had no fixed idea of what viruses actually are. The idea of viruses
has always been used for this purpose: a failed attempt to explain
phenomena that cannot be explained within their respective world
view. Since the invention and application of alleged virus testing
procedures, the inherent mechanism for generating fear has been
greatly accelerated."
https://northerntracey213875959.wordpress.com/2021/08/13/the-virus-misconception-part-iii-corona-simple-and-understandable/
was defined as a pathogenic agent, a toxic protein, a toxin. In the
years before, some scientists doing actual science, checked their
assumptions, namely by control experiments. In doing so, they
found two things: the decomposition of completely healthy
tissues and organs produces the same proteins as the de-
composition of “diseased” material, which was misinterpreted
as viruses. Furthermore animal testing methods caused the
symptoms of the ‘diseases’ rather than the proteins misinterpreted
as viruses that were blamed as the triggers."
"Few doctors and only very attentive readers of professional
journals noticed that science, as it had often been in the past,
had no fixed idea of what viruses actually are. The idea of viruses
has always been used for this purpose: a failed attempt to explain
phenomena that cannot be explained within their respective world
view. Since the invention and application of alleged virus testing
procedures, the inherent mechanism for generating fear has been
greatly accelerated."
https://northerntracey213875959.wordpress.com/2021/08/13/the-virus-misconception-part-iii-corona-simple-and-understandable/
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Andrew Kaufman, M.D., returns to talk to Christopher James about worldwide NO ONE has isolated the C0V!D-19 SARS 2 VIRUS.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/Y3N0FvwrY96S/
https://www.bitchute.com/video/Y3N0FvwrY96S/
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I read this recently, it's about inflammation but think relevant.
"when we realize that inflammation is not caused by the fight of our body with a pathogen and instead,
it is just forced hydration, the culprit immediately switches from a pathogenic organism to a toxin."
It's fascinating to me, how to shift ones thinking about life, can radically reveal so much.
it's like a kid who stops trying to fit the triangle in the square hole, and then the triangle hole appears.
It becomes clearer just how actually dangerous the current mainstream medical system is.
(aside from severe injury/accidents)
"when we realize that inflammation is not caused by the fight of our body with a pathogen and instead,
it is just forced hydration, the culprit immediately switches from a pathogenic organism to a toxin."
It's fascinating to me, how to shift ones thinking about life, can radically reveal so much.
it's like a kid who stops trying to fit the triangle in the square hole, and then the triangle hole appears.
It becomes clearer just how actually dangerous the current mainstream medical system is.
(aside from severe injury/accidents)
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It seems a trillion dollar industry hangs in the balance of keeping the germ theory alive, so they've been
hard at work, censoring bought social media platforms.
The initial step I took to realizing something wasn't adding up, was seeing time after time natural detoxification
methods (especially Vitamin C, GSH, Lipoic Acid, Selenium and Vitamin D), stopping so-called viral-based conditions.
hard at work, censoring bought social media platforms.
The initial step I took to realizing something wasn't adding up, was seeing time after time natural detoxification
methods (especially Vitamin C, GSH, Lipoic Acid, Selenium and Vitamin D), stopping so-called viral-based conditions.
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CausticSymmetry wrote:It seems a trillion dollar industry hangs in the balance of keeping the germ theory alive, so they've been
hard at work, censoring bought social media platforms.
The initial step I took to realizing something wasn't adding up, was seeing time after time natural detoxification
methods (especially Vitamin C, GSH, Lipoic Acid, Selenium and Vitamin D), stopping so-called viral-based conditions.
Well CS, what can I say personally other than thank you.
I remember coming across your work back in 2013 and
with no real health knowledge sensing there was something hitting the mark,
if it hadn't of been for the learning had here intermittently over the years
I would have not been able to discern the lies and half truths
that kicked off last year, and subsequently help those around me to at least
consider these ways of thinking about health.
As you say, trillion dollar industry helping lies and confusion prosper...
not easy to shake off the propoganda.
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Almost forgot to mention something that really clinched it, documentation of supposed "virus" infected people who had
previously "diagnosed" with "X" virus was later found not to "have" the virus after implants were removed. for example, hepatitis C vanished after removal of IUD (Intrauterine Device).
In regards to how they diagnosis this, serologic testing and viral load are used, but this has nothing to do with proving causation. Simply put, they have to use surrogate methods, because there's no other way to "prove" anything.
previously "diagnosed" with "X" virus was later found not to "have" the virus after implants were removed. for example, hepatitis C vanished after removal of IUD (Intrauterine Device).
In regards to how they diagnosis this, serologic testing and viral load are used, but this has nothing to do with proving causation. Simply put, they have to use surrogate methods, because there's no other way to "prove" anything.
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It's funny. Black holes are like viruses in a way too. We can't observe or isolate a black hole but we can infer that they are there by the effect that they have on other matter nearby. We all seem to accept the science that points to black holes. Why can't we accept viruses that way too?
Getting back to the video...keep us in touch with any developments that this talk show host says about something big is going to happen this coming monday. Sounds like some earth shattering revelation that a whole bunch of doctors and scientists are going to reveal to the world on monday. So intriguing! I wonder if mainstream news will carry it.
Getting back to the video...keep us in touch with any developments that this talk show host says about something big is going to happen this coming monday. Sounds like some earth shattering revelation that a whole bunch of doctors and scientists are going to reveal to the world on monday. So intriguing! I wonder if mainstream news will carry it.
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shaftless wrote:It's funny. Black holes are like viruses in a way too. We can't observe or isolate a black hole but we can infer that they are there by the effect that they have on other matter nearby. We all seem to accept the science that points to black holes. Why can't we accept viruses that way too?
Getting back to the video...keep us in touch with any developments that this talk show host says about something big is going to happen this coming monday. Sounds like some earth shattering revelation that a whole bunch of doctors and scientists are going to reveal to the world on monday. So intriguing! I wonder if mainstream news will carry it.
Not everyone accepts black holes, and in fact some people say they're a hoax.
I won't comment any further on these as I have very limited understanding of things
that are supposedly 1,500 lightyears away from us.
It's a fascinating concept though.
As for viruses, direct experience can tell you if the theory holds up or not.
If the theory was a cookie, it fell to pieces last year, and this year I threw those pieces in the bin.
One thing to note, I think it's important to respect peoples free choice, and just because
millions go along with a theory, it doesn't make it true. We are free to make errors and learn
from them, and if people want to continue like dogs chasing their tails looking for a solution
to the problem within the current paradigm, they're free to.
It's always good to try reconcile in some way, but the current paradigm is using a totalitarian
approach which leaves no room for real reconciliation of ideas. Might is right with these psychopaths,
and as we have come to learn, the best way to deal with narcissists is to walk away.
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Wait, what? There are some who don't believe in blackholes? They should tell it to THIS guy!!!
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