Dr. B’s coronavirus results

Hi CS, besides what you said, I was just thinking today of mannitol’s use in Parkinson’s.  How it helps to rid the prion (Alpha-synuclein) from those with Parkinson’s.  

I was reading bottom of this article regarding coronavirus and prions.  https://medium.com/medical-myths-and-models/what-makes-the-novel-coronavirus-so-contagious-e677e825c566


There might be a small possibility that this coronavirus might respond to prion treatments.  If this is true, then it’s a major breakthrough and would explain a lot for me and why the world has been freaking out about this.  That it’s not a virus but a prion illness.  Just a possibility.  

I’ll post methods for treating prions just in case somebody else has a problem later today.


Hi zixcreator.  Definetely a plandemic!

If coronavirus is connected with prions Which is a big if, these supplements should work besides mannitol as they are used in hose wot prionissues. Mannitol has been extremely effective for us. These supplements have been shown to work for those with prion issues which appears to be 10% of population that are ill based on one Dr’s reporting.

This coronavirus was really  bad!  What they show on TV is what she went through.  Unable to roll over in bed.  Unable to sit up.  Would fall over on the toilet.  Unable to walk.  Unable to stand, etc..  She isn’t walking yet but things are improving.She said it was worse than the Hong Kong flu of 68 which she also got.  

Elecampane

https://smile.amazon.com/Herb-Pharm-Certified-Elecampane-Respiratory/dp/B0016A1XJ0/ref=sr_1_4?dchild=1&keywords=Elecampane&qid=1590183337&sr=8-4&th=1

Elecampane and echinacea Is better


Usnea

https://smile.amazon.com/Lichen-Extract-Natural-Ounces-Dropper-Top/dp/B00AROGW5G/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?dchild=1&keywords=Usnea&qid=1590184396&sr=8-1-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEyWE1KNEE3Q1VZV0o3JmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwMjg3MjA4MkcyMVZVOEwwMldNQiZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwMzEzNDA1M1BXS0cwUFRKSzVTQiZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX2F0ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU=

Jdp710 - Where do you get your D-Mannitol from? Do you ingest it in chocolate or just the straight stuff? Also what dose do you suggest?

Hi CS.  I bought this brand.  Would recommend this one.  

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B01KAM9FOO/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&th=1

Small 250 gram bag is all that’s needed.

I’m using just 1/2 teaspoon twice a day in tea or gatorade.  Zero taste to it. 100% dissolves.  Can use higher dose but it wasn’t needed for us.

I suspect some other brands may not work as well.

I skipped a dose of mannitol to see how well Artemisia does  and things started to flare up again.  Mild fever.  Very very tired.  But 12 hours after taking mannitol, the coronavirus symptoms disappear again.

It was the thorne brand 1000 mg per day Artemisia and their seemed to be a benefit for first day but it didn’t last.  Tried 3 days.  Maybe it would have been useful at first sign of symptoms instead of having coronavirus for so many weeks.  Mannitol works better for us.

I’m going to try Usnea as we still have lung issues that mannitol isn’t getting to.   Maybe some pneumonia I guess.


mannitol works very well for coronavirus but may still need something to treat the lungs.  Either way, we aren’t suffering anymore but are very tired with some lung issues.

Hope this helps

What do you guys think about taking Tylenol or Ibuprofen for the fever you will get from this? My thought is that it is a very bad idea to handcuff the immune system that way. Your thoughts?

I think there is a possibility I've gotten this. Fever and diarrhea and the fingers on my right hand are numb. No respiratory symptoms. No excessive fatigue.

Take as much ascorbic acid as you can asap IMO!!!!  

Also, coronavirus causes blood clots!  First thing we noticed before we ever got sick.  She had two TIA (mini strokes) before ever getting sick.  We increased our dose of solgar rutin to 750 mg or a little higherwhich is a good at preventing blood clots.  Stopped any future TIA’s.  You must take somethng to prevent blood clots.  Some take baby aspirin but I don’t recommend.  I did try tylenol and ibuprophen once or twice but didn’t do much.

“COVID-19 is the most thrombotic [clot-producing] disease we’ve ever seen in our lifetime”
https://www.latimes.com/science/story/2020-05-26/blood-clots-pose-coronavirus-threat

My first symptom was the worst explosive diarrhea in my life. Never had anything like it.  Something you see out of the movies.  Hit me very fast.  Stomach distress was moderate.

I’d recommend these to help with flu like symptoms.  https://www.amazon.com/Boiron-Oscillococcinum-Flu-like-Symptoms-Pellets/dp/B0078W0QOI/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2K4C8PAA8E7V3&dchild=1&keywords=oscillicocium&qid=1590615341&sprefix=Oscillic%2Caps%2C201&sr=8-1  Worked for me for flu like symptoms. Family member used sambucol.  Like that better.  Both can be bought at Walgreens asap without having to wait on shipping.

Don’t underestimate coronavirus.  It’s 5 weeks for her and she’s now just getting her legs moving again.

Good luckto you and I hopeyou are ok and it’s something else.  But if it’s not, highly recommend to throw everything at it asap.  Mannitol worked very well for us!!!

Cold temperature also helped alot. Get the air in the room as cold as you can. Meaning turn ac on with windows and fans worked very well. When you get mildly warm symptoms are bad but when cold with windows open and cold air helps.

I don't see where you mention taking zinc and a zinc ionophore like Quecetin. Personally this has the most efficacy IMO. Especially early on. Your thoughts?

I tried zinc by itself and didn’t see any improvement.  Quercetin I wasn’t aware about it for coronavirus. Never tried it.

Artemisia until very recently which might be similar to the rx Hydroxychloroquine.  The artemesia I saw only very little benefit.  

I heard the Hydroxychloroquine, zinc combo is best to take asap.  If you had coronavirus a long time like we had you may not see a benefit.  Maybe quercetin would be same.

But thorne brand artemesia sounds promising if you can’t get hydroxychloroquine.

But if you could get Hydroxychloroquine, zinc and the antibiotic azithromycin that really did get very good results in NY and wished we could have got that.

We were way too sick to go anywhere.  

We also could have used oxygen.  Her oxygen got dosn to 83-85 on oximeter.

I edited my above post to add a little.  The coronavirus goes from 0-100 before you know it. Beware.

I would postulate either cyanide and/or carbon monoxide poisoning to cause disseminated microvascular coagulation.

One thing is for sure, at least in my area. Clear skies during diminished traffic? Rarely, instead a white haze throughout.

I do not believe a virus can aerosolize and cause harm without being injected.

CausticSymmetry wrote:

I do not believe a virus can aerosolize and cause harm without being injected.

This coronavirus doesn’t feel like a cold or flu or food poisoning.  My most powerful antiviral methods in the world didn’t even stop it from getting worse.  They helped for 12 hours or so before getting sick all over.  Lyposperic vitamin c didn’t work. I was in shock and lost a week or two. But ascorbic acid as preventative and when first sign others have said should work.

Maybe it’s prions or similar.  Mannitol works extremely well!!! But maybe we had brain swelling and why mannitol worked.  Coronavirus does cause brain and spinal cord swelling.

There was this study

““> *The 2019 Wuhan outbreak is caused by the bacteria Prevotella, which
> is aided by the coronavirus, possibly to adhere to epithelial cells -
> Prevotella is present in huge amounts in patients from both China and
> Hong Kong*”. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/339008515_The_2019_Wuhan_outbreak_is_caused_by_the_bacteria_Prevotella_which_is_aided_by_the_coronavirus_possibly_to_adhere_to_epithelial_cells_-_Prevotella_is_present_in_huge_amounts_in_patients_from_both_Chin?fbclid=IwAR2lzaAX6_zayyIWNbo-asjF-qwHBUOKmKzGRTyf0M5U88VpTHtR4zL4018

From the abstract

”The high mortality is being caused by targeting only the virus (which is also present). This is a two pronged attack”...”

Zixcreator,

One thing I wish I tried was the old wives tale of hydrogen peroxide in the ear. I just never got around to it. Here is a quote from internet.

“We have found remarkable results in curing the flu & cold within 12 to 14 hours when administering a few drops of 3% Hydrogen Peroxide (H2O2) into each infected ear, (sometimes only one ear is infected) The H2O2 starts working within 2 to 3 minutes in killing the flu or cold; there will be some bubbling and in some ...”

I should also say we had chicken soup and similar which was soothing. Another old wives tale to take. The bone broth in it does help in treating colds and flu. I wish I started having it right away when we got sick.

Hope this helps

Doesn't make a lot of sense to me but what do you have to lose? You never know? I have an open mind about everything. So I will try it. Probably will help get the ear wax out of my ears! LOL!

For the last 2 months I've taken 3 grams a day of vitamin C. 50 mgs of zinc sulfate. 800 mgs of Magnesium. 2,000 units of vitamin D. Drinking green tea (another thing that gets the zinc into the cells).

Now based on the slight possibility I have caught this thing I started Quercetin and colloidal silver. Also have a lower concentration I can nebulize if I start having lung issues. I also have inhaled steroids and oral prednisone if things get really bad. That will be my last ditch effort before going to the hospital. Wish I had some oxygen though.

But from all the research I've done. I personally think it's about zinc and something to get it into the cells. That's why that doctor in NY had such success with the HCQ and zinc. Cause HCQ gets the zinc into the cells. Without the zinc, it is almost useless.

And I totally agree. You have to hit it early and hard. The doc in NY (Dr Zelenko) extrapolated hitting it early with his combination of meds would reduce hospitalization and death by 95%. He isn't the only one advocating that protocol either.

Wished we were talking a few weeks ago. Maybe it would have prevented things from getting so severe for you and your loved one There are two things besides HCQ that are zinc ionophores. (That I know of).

I personally think it is more about zinc than anything else. I got lucky though. I've been taking c and zinc sulfate for years cause that's the zinc I sell in Zix kits. So it was convenient. I took it cause it helps with an inflamed prostate. We'll see going forward.

I so hope you beat this thing. I will pray for you and your loved one. It doesn't matter if you believe or not. I will believe for the both of us.

Thanks buddy. I’ll pray for you as well.

We are starting to think that this coronavirus might have infected us from the produce we ear.  And that it has kept things as bad for us as long as it has because of the very large amount of produce we eat.  

Eating certain produce causes a flare up.  Not eating produce no flare up.  Washing the produce still causes a flare up.  

Not 100% certain but I wouldn’t be surprised if the majority got this coronavirus from produce.

Sounds crazy but thought I should share just in case.

Jdp710 wrote:We are starting to think that this coronavirus might have infected us from the produce we ear.  And that it has kept things as bad for us as long as it has because of the very large amount of produce we eat.  

Eating certain produce causes a flare up.  Not eating produce no flare up.  Washing the produce still causes a flare up.  

Not 100% certain but I wouldn’t be surprised if the majority got this coronavirus from produce.

Sounds crazy but thought I should share just in case.  

I am quite convinced that whatever this is, the source is likely to be something toxic in the air, food, or other contamination.

Throughout history viruses were always blamed on either an accidental poisoning, or a miscalculation and government to bury it and subvert the public to condemn something other than what it really was.

The produce theory is interesting. Here's a mainstream source reporting about this somewhat:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/may/29/pesticides-everyday-products-toxics-guide

In the following 2010 appendix describes the complexity of the pathogenic mechanisms of the select agents botulinum neurotoxin and Clostridium botulinum, for which the purpose to identify a toxin as any protein that has a deleterious effect on health and fitness when ingested.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK50857/

To get a bit technical, the zinc binding site of this class of toxins is so well conserved. Hydroxychloroquine for instance may increase the uptake of zinc (which is anti-viral) and can prevent the onset of paralysis caused by botulinum neurotoxin. 

Botulinum neurotoxins bind ganglioside receptors on the neuronal cell surface in the presynaptic terminals and, by their action as metalloendoproteases, selectively cleave proteins involved in the neuroexocytosis apparatus; this results in inhibition of acetylcholine release at the myoneural junctions and later flaccid paralysis that can lead to respiratory arrest.

Interesting info.  One of the beneficial effects of mannitol is that it removes toxins from the brain.  I wonder if maybe that’s why it works so well.  

Interestingly at the height of our illness with coronavirus, when she was “extremely” ill, Her urine and skin had a noticeable odd smell to it.  And our breath recontaminated us and opening windows with fans on helped very well.  A toxin? Been looking up info you posted and pondering on it sounds ver plausible.  

I’m believer in hulda clark theory of every bacteria, virus and such need a specific toxin or heavy metal to work as an anchor.  Without specific toxin or heavy metal, the coronavirus would do nothing.  Spanish flu maybe was tin from recent tin can use as example.

I’ll have to experiment with toxin removal based on your post and see what happens.  Botulism toxin sounds interesting. Looked up symptoms and very similar.  Sadly exposure can cause permanent issues.  She’s still bedridden.

Maybe zinc we took at beginning of this didn’t have much zinc in it. Sometimes supplements can have a fraction of the stated dose in it. Maybe.. .


Side note, watching the riots and job losses and such and hope you are safe in California.
Seems each year that goes by things gets worse.

Jdp...did you notice a strange loss of taste or smell before you came down sick? There are many weird effects to this virus. Here in Ontario Canada some Mexican workers that come here every year to work on the farms have been infected with this virus. They have been hospitalized or are quarantined and cannot work and the farmers are now advertising for local help. The funny thing is these workers were quarantined for 14 days when they arrived here and they passed the test and were ok for almost a month until now. Makes you wonder how they picked up this virus. I don't think it was some local toxin since no one else who lives in the area became sick.

I don’t think we had a loss of taste or smell before.  We definetely had it during where it would come and go but don’t think before we got ill.  We did have a very mild cold and lots in my city did have that.  We had that for over 1 or more likely 2 months before getting ill.  Mild cold that never went away.  Our tongues would even start bleeding shortly before getting ill.  I’m guessing that was severe vitamin c deficiency.  

Interestingly, I did mention on this site that this city was heavily chemtrailed for months on end.  You go outside and it would get in your lungs and eyes.  They stopped chemtrailing in mid march.  We got very ill somewhere after mid April.  It hits very very fast.

Maybe chemtrails in the produce and consuming the produce gets one ill.  Coronavirus is definitely dose dependant.  The higher the dose the worse the outcome.  Maybe it’s a certain pesticide that makes one susceptible to coronavirus.  Or maybe all of this so called coronavirus is a toxin similar to botulism causing these problems and the real coronavirus only gives cold symptoms.  I really can’t be positive.  But we definitely are thinking produce is very much linked to coronavirus.  I just don’t know how.  

Either way the mexican farmers probably were incubating whatever this coronavirus is for months before traveling to canada and then getting ill in Canada.  I don’t believe the 14 or whatever day incubating period is accurate.  Much longer.  Much more to it.  Maybe they have high pesticide exposure in them which allowed the coronavirus to be in them.  Then this virus silently eats up all the vitamin c in them for months until oneday it hits.

I read of a nurse who worked in a nursing home who said the residents would all get the flu shot the same day.  Then something like 3 months later a percent of the residents would all gets sick at the same time and someone may die.  It happened ever year and always something like 3 months to the day after the flu shot every year. Year after year. Same amount of time. Maybe coronavirus is something similar.  Very long incubation period.

An interesting note about D-Mannitol is that in 90% of Parkinson's patients there was a 90% success rate in smell recovery.  As we know, loss of smell is a feature of neurological diseases and a loss of zinc.

In terms of the flu-shot, there is a 37% increase in a "positive" case among those who get it.

I remember watching Pierce Morgan 10 years ago in the US talk about his flu shot. He said he never gets the flu. After he got his shot, he got the flu.

My mom had a shingles shot and I believe it was a whooping cough shot shortly after. She had a massive hemorrhagic stroke later. Unbelievable. Later, she had a flu shot a couple years after that and had another massive stroke a few months later.

My dad gets his flu shot every year and he’s gone into insanity.

I’m not sure any of it is coincidence.


Anyhow, if anyone wants to watch the US riots, there is this twitter feed. https://mobile.twitter.com/Breaking911

My city of 500000, riots in my city.  Businesses boarded up downtown area.  34 fires last night.  Many businesses glass smashed.  The major theatre they tried to burn down so instead got on the roof and threw glass bottles at cops below.  Intersection rioters pulled out their guns and shot them in the air.

Seems a lot of them are young and indoctrinated by their teachers.  Others probably raised wrong.  

Governor MIA.  Mayor encouraging protesting while denouncing rioters.  The whole city will burn before our mayor does anything.  Police seem like they don’t care.  

What happens when the police no longer care to chase bad guys anymore?  They just pretend to.  Seems that’s where we are headed.  When police only write reports and investigate homicides seems to be where this city will go.  Only question is when.  This city is already one of the most violent cities in the US.  #10 most dangerous city in US.  Show breaking bad was filmed here and seems that’s where this city will go.

What happens when nobody cares about doing the right thing?  Already nobody cares about anything or anyone.  But soon nobody will care about doing the right thing.  Nobody will care if their actions or lack of action cause harm to another.

I get the american dream has been gone for decades and that it’s more like an American nightmare but destroying your neighbors businesses, then rich neighbor homes, then your next door neighbor homes, then someone else burns down your own home is where this could end. Maybe not this year but maybe by end of this decade.

Seems the coronavirus or whatever it was may no longer be posing a threat anymore according to Italian doctors.  

I can say the family member I care for still has residual pneumonia that is still a bit bad and we are around 6 week mark.  I’m over the corona.  Rough 3 weeks for me.  It’s as bad as they show on TV but we both had bad prexisting conditions. I still get very tired snd worn out but we are no longer sleeping 15 hour days.  We also both have flare ups from eating produce.  Grapes, oranges, cantalope, maybe tomatos.  Lettuce, and watermelon, carrots snd brocolli are fine.  It’s not the sugar content either as sugar or junk food does not get us ill.

If their is another outbreak in winter, I’d highly recommend everyone avoid or limit condumption of produce.  Washing produce isn’t the answer either.

A quote from article
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Zangrillo, who is well-known for being the personal doctor of Italy’s former President Silvio Berlusconi, said the study showed the virus was weakening and that, “in reality, from the clinical point of view, the virus no longer exists.”

“The swabs that were performed over the last 10 days showed a viral load in quantitative terms that was absolutely infinitesimal compared to the ones carried out on patients a month or two ago,” he told RAI television Sunday, citing a study from Massimo Clementi, director of the Microbiology and Virology Laboratory at the San Raffaele hospital, that is reportedly due to be published shortly.

“Zangrillo is not the only doctor to believe that the virus is weakening, however.

Matteo Bassetti, the director of the infectious diseases clinic of the San Martino hospital in Genoa also said Monday that the virus is no longer the same, based on his experience. The virus “may now be different: the firepower it had two months ago is not the same firepower it has today,” he said, ANSA reported”

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/02/claim-coronavirus-no-longer-exists-provokes-controversy.html

Jdp710 wrote:Seems the coronavirus or whatever it was may no longer be posing a threat anymore according to Italian doctors.  

I can say the family member I care for still has residual pneumonia that is still a bit bad and we are around 6 week mark.  I’m over the corona.  Rough 3 weeks for me.  It’s as bad as they show on TV but we both had bad prexisting conditions.  I still get very tired snd worn out but we are no longer sleeping 15 hour days.  We also both have flare ups from eating produce.  Grapes, oranges, cantalope, maybe tomatos.  Lettuce, and watermelon, carrots snd brocolli are fine.  It’s not the sugar content either as sugar or junk food does not get us ill.

If their is another outbreak in winter, I’d highly recommend everyone avoid or limit condumption of produce.  Washing produce isn’t the answer either.

A quote from article
—————————————————
Zangrillo, who is well-known for being the personal doctor of Italy’s former President Silvio Berlusconi, said the study showed the virus was weakening and that, “in reality, from the clinical point of view, the virus no longer exists.”

“The swabs that were performed over the last 10 days showed a viral load in quantitative terms that was absolutely infinitesimal compared to the ones carried out on patients a month or two ago,” he told RAI television Sunday, citing a study from Massimo Clementi, director of the Microbiology and Virology Laboratory at the San Raffaele hospital, that is reportedly due to be published shortly.

“Zangrillo is not the only doctor to believe that the virus is weakening, however.

Matteo Bassetti, the director of the infectious diseases clinic of the San Martino hospital in Genoa also said Monday that the virus is no longer the same, based on his experience. The virus “may now be different: the firepower it had two months ago is not the same firepower it has today,” he said, ANSA reported”

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/02/claim-coronavirus-no-longer-exists-provokes-controversy.html

What do you guys make of this ?

Is it actually possible that Coronavirus didn't exist(in the sense that is described; highly contagious and deadly)?
Or did it magically undergo some mutation and become less deadly ?

If it actually didn't exist, how come pretty much the entire world(and their leading scientists/health organizations) were talked into believing it and advocating it's virulence ? And why are they coming out now?  Especially considering that Bill Gates recently uploaded a video on his youtube channel saying that "We need 7 billion vaccines".
They surely realized the prediction models(by Imperial college of London and such) were far off their marks and were based on no clinical data, a while back.

Did  they abandon the long term control agenda ?

Are they preparing for the fabled "Second wave" and just wanted to give people a room to breath before they hit us with the vaccine and immunity passports ?

I've been convinced from the early part of this Fraud-demic that there is no virus whatsoever. Instead, if anyone is being 
harmed, it is either derived from polluted air, contaminated food, blood supply or from vaccines. 

All previous "outbreaks" were the result of toxins, never a virus.

Very interesting interview here, worth checking out.

https://soundcloud.com/oneradionetwork/these-covid-mandates-are-experimental-and-thus-illegal-dave-martin-june-2-2020

An important side-note, the inexpensive over the counter supplement melatonin has already been shown to effectively reduce the symptoms. 

In this interview above, David Martin, makes an important distinction between corona virus and COVID-19.

Nuada,

10 years ago with h1n1 there was strong evidence that certain cities were chemtrailed and the citieswould allget sick with a dayortwo or whatever.  

My city was heavily chemtrailed for couple months.  Haven’t seen it that bad in 10 years.  I mentioned this back in feb multiple times as a record.  Just in case.  I suspect very long incubation period.  They stopped chemtrailing mid to late march or so.  So I wouldn’t be surprised if the coronavirus dwindles away.  Maybe produce absorbed the chemtrails.  I dunno.

The powers that be are always causing problem after problem.  There is a method to the madness and it works.  Basically a little evil is ok to do so long as it’s for the greater good.

Take for instance WWII got the US out of great depression.  I see that’s why they do these things.  It’s to keep the engine of civilization always progressing and not stagnating.... It’s how psycopaths would think.  

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Everyone... I’m taking a break from the internet to focus on My mother who I’m a caregiver for has taken a turn for the worst.  She thinks she’s dying and is seeing dead relatives in her sleep which is a bad sign.  She’s unable to have the energy to do anything.  6 weeks of being bedridden.  She was able to do a little bit a week or so ago but has gone downhill now.

Pray for us.