Dr. B’s coronavirus results

No health insurance.  Would cost me too much to see a doctor.  Have my own expensive equipment that tests for problems.

Also live in a state in USA where people don’t really help others.  Have seen doctors dozens of times many years ago and have gone with other family members and they rarely help.  They are good at saving lives no doubt.  But diagnosing and helping others I don’t know why but rarely effective in my state.

I did call around the cardiologists around here for out of pocket costs awhile back.  I’d have to go to a large hospital which means I’d spend a fortune.  I might go since I’m not dying right away but worried about being bankrupted for only a little longer life which I don’t think is a good trade off.

I can post an article showing that these heart surgery outcomes are no better than medication.  In other words, might as well treat myself with medication and skip doctor visits.

You ok JDP?

It’s a rollercoaster.  Some days not good. Most of my thoughts and emotions are gone. I just observe things for the most part now. The POWA, meditation practices give me peace.

My neighbor came down with corona or something similar.

Not sure if I should be glad you're still with us or have moved on. Don't want to see you suffer.

Been taking some things that are commonly used for heart failure and they do help.  Was doing better.  But pulse use to be consistent around 85 but now since april shoots up to 110-130 when standing.  Blood pressure use to be consistent 130-135 over 85 but now reads 105/70.  Falling asleep pulse has fallen as low as 50 and blood pressure as low as 90/50.  Even lower but monitor won’t read as low.  

Was talked into going to urgent care... low cost/no insurance. Chest x ray ruled out enlarged heart (common in heart failure), pneumonia\fluid in lungs, tumors in lungs.  ECG some minor issues but look fine.  Triponin test of if I had a recent heart attack (about 2 weeks) came back negative.Other blood work, and thyroid test was all normal.  

Was prescribed inhaler (albuterol) for potential asthma and all that does is hurt my throat and lungs, makes my legs weak and raises pulse even higher.  Trying it for a few more days. Was prescribed anti anxiety and again, nothing.  

Previously tried potential gerd/acid reflux as it’s possible as has similar symptoms but doesn’t fit all symptoms.  Calmed the stomach but that was it.

Got an endoscope just in case throat problem but doesn’t explain most symptoms but would explain throat issue.  But it was too cheap to see much But may have showed inflammed throat

So back to my original method of probable heart failure.  Was referred to cardiologist because of family history which will cost a lot more.  I generally should get a CT scan but only the expensive places have it.  

Family got me allergy test but doesn’t show anything different that I already know.

So basically everything else has been ruled out for $600 visit but heart issue.  Family says I should rule out some of it being psychological so will go off everything I’ve been doing for heart failure and see if I get worse all over again.  Generally that means being unable to lie down which means very little sleep.  Lying down causes people to unable to breath in heart failure.  

will probably end up at a cardiologist which will cost a lot.

Anyway, just updating for anyone curious.  At least I’vebeen able to get a little sleep.  Before a couple weeks ago, so bad I was a day or two from passing. Severely bad. sleep was almost impossible because couldn’t breath lying down.

Jdp710 wrote:Been taking some things that are commonly used for heart failure and they do help.  Was doing better.  But pulse use to be consistent around 85 but now since april shoots up to 110-130 when standing.  Blood pressure use to be consistent 130-135 over 85 but now reads 105/70.  Falling asleep pulse has fallen as low as 50 and blood pressure as low as 90/50.  Even lower but monitor won’t read as low.  

Was talked into going to urgent care... low cost/no insurance. Chest x ray ruled out enlarged heart (common in heart failure), pneumonia\fluid in lungs, tumors in lungs.  ECG some minor issues but look fine.  Triponin test of if I had a recent heart attack (about 2 weeks) came back negative.Other blood work, and thyroid test was all normal.  

Was prescribed inhaler (albuterol) for potential asthma and all that does is hurt my throat and lungs, makes my legs weak and raises pulse even higher.  Trying it for a few more days. Was prescribed anti anxiety and again, nothing.  

Previously tried potential gerd/acid reflux as it’s possible as has similar symptoms but doesn’t fit all symptoms.  Calmed the stomach but that was it.

Got an endoscope just in case throat problem but doesn’t explain most symptoms but would explain throat issue.  But it was too cheap to see much But may have showed inflammed throat

So back to my original method of probable heart failure.  Was referred to cardiologist because of family history which will cost a lot more.  I generally should get a CT scan but only the expensive places have it.  

Family got me allergy test but doesn’t show anything different that I already know.

So basically everything else has been ruled out for $600 visit but heart issue.  Family says I should rule out some of it being psychological so will go off everything I’ve been doing for heart failure and see if I get worse all over again.  Generally that means being unable to lie down which means very little sleep.  Lying down causes people to unable to breath in heart failure.  

will probably end up at a cardiologist which will cost a lot.

Anyway, just updating for anyone curious.  At least I’vebeen able to get a little sleep.  Before a couple weeks ago, so bad I was a day or two from passing.  Severely bad.  sleep was almost impossible because couldn’t breath lying down.  

What about any alternative doctors to get a second opinion ? Do you have any in your vicinity ?
I guess if it was a major heart issue it would show in ECG or x rays.

No alternative doctors.  Really looking for a diagnosis though.  Chest X ray doesn’t rule out heart issue.  It only showed that it wasn’t enlarged.  But there could still be a blockage so really need a ct scan.  ECG showed heart is beating normal at the moment which I knew before as I have similar equipment at home.  

The very abnormal blood pressure, heart rate, extreme breathing difficulty, a little swelling in my feet , weight loss, anxiety, dread, confusion, eating large meals and drinking a lot increases symptoms, can’t lie down or I suffocate, chest and arm pain and throat problem, spitting up abnormal phlegm, extreme weakness (especially in legs), fatigue, family history, large blood clot in my ankle back in April, one carotid artery (neck vein) is very weak, and others symptoms all point to probable heart.  Even have expensive biofeedback machine that confirms.  

I think what I’m meaning to say, in my state in the US, for some reason while they are good at saving lives, diagnosing or helping someone with a health condition they are not good at.  It would be common for me to go to several cardiologists, spend a small fortune over several months and then one finally finds what happened.  I did go to hospitals in california, nevada and arizona and no complaints.  But the state I live in it’s in the culture.

Been on the phone and contacted the 3 big hospitals and none will give any estimate on how much a doctor visit is or cost of a procedure.  I would guess a couple thousand. And again, based on seeing prior doctors in the past and being with family members most likely would need a couple visits just to get a diagnosis.  I’m guessing cost will end up 5k-10k for a diagnosis.

Called the one cardiologist that I was referred to for low cost.  She doesn’t have the CT scan or similar expensive equipment.  Appointment is $400 plus cost of testing which I’m guessing is $1000 or a little less.  I give a 20% chance of the visit being helpful.

That’s just for diagnosis.  A heart procedure would cost much more.  

Medicare I don’t qualify.

Could get health insurance but I’m guessing won’t be saving much based on deductibles and such.  I’m guessing $2000-$5000.  More likely $5000 or more.

Could go to ER and then declare bankruptcy after.  Least favorite option.

If I was able going to mexico would be good.  Better bet is fly from US to Thailand I’ve been told is good in the past.  Other countries possible but thailand was suppose to be excellent healthcare at reasonable cost.  If I could do that on my own I would but I can hardly care for myself.

This all sucks.  Worst experience of my life.  Don’t ever get coronavirus guys.  Every option sucks for me.  Been crying everyday for a long time because of how bad it is.  Last post for long time.  Tired of this.  Will update if I get a diagnosis. Love you all.

It's such a shame.

There are two things to getting free health care. Low income but not too low.....then you would qualify for a subsidy for Obamacare. They have deductibles but only to a point. Once you reach that point in a given year they pay for everything. I have a minimal plan and the total out of pocket cost can not be more then $7,000 in a year. But if your income is too low you actually won't qualify for an Obama care subsidy.

That's when you sign up for medicaid. But if you have too much money in the bank you won't qualify even if you have zero income.

If you want to send me an email we could brainstorm this healthcare thing out for you JDP. But need details I don't think you would want to share on this forum. (hairimprovement2@yahoo.com). I know a little about it though.

Sorry to hear about your situation, JDP.  I've had a series of recoveries and relapses over the course of this year, including a major prolonged relapse which was in some ways worse than the first major assault because chest pain featured so prominently.  

The main lingering symptom is occasional chest pain. I ward off sharp chest pains by taking 100 to 200mg of nattokinase per day.  If I start getting chest pain, it's because I've skipped a day.

My most severe chest pains in recent weeks occurred after taking over 5 mg of K2 (Japanese brand). The incident convinced me the chest pains were a clotting issue. I now avoid K2 and try not to skip a day of nattokinase. They say to avoid blood thinners with this supplement.

I have found fasting, calorie restriction, and giving into any loss of appetite extremely detrimental, lots of beef and eggs beneficial. Beef liver has always picked me up, as has serious sunbathing.

Thanks Cib Rocsa,

I appreciate it.  I’m sorry to hear of your health problems. I have natto and K2.  I’ll skip the k2 and see what happens.  



As an update, I’m starting to get Rx medication and some others for heart failure and see what happens.  So far it has helped me breathe by getting water out of my lungs but I still can’t sleep or breathe lying down.  Still losing weight at a rapid rate even though eating more than normal.

I can’t walk in stores anymore and can’t breathe through a mask and inside my home I am starting on a rollator and a scooter.  Can’t hardly make myself food or take showers.  Can’t care for myself.

My father has just bought an RV and we are going travel the US together so that’s my bucket list.

I think this will be my final farewell post. Things have progressed so rapidly the past couple months that it could happen at any moment or maybe by end of year. And it’s too hard to make a post anymore. I’ll be thinking of everyone when I’m in heaven and you all have my love.

James

You'll have to forgive me. I'm too selfish therefore I hope you recover. I will pray for you. If this is it then someday we will meet on the other side. God bless you my friend. Wish i would have gotten more time to know you. Still hope you get better. If you have the strength, let us know.

Thank you everyone for the get well wishes.  It meant a lot while I was on the verge of dying.  It was the worst experience I’ve ever gone through and closest to death for so long and then a recovery I’ve personally ever seen.

I was almost completely unable to care for myself, get to the store to buy food and didn’t have anyone to help but zixcreator helped a lot by helping me to bounce ideas off of him and to vent my frustration of what I was going through.  Without that I’m sure I’d be dead.  I was unable to walk more than just a couple homes away from exhaustion.  My breathing was the worst though.  Completely unable to breath and therefore could only sleep for 15 minutes at a time and then wouldhave to get up for 30 minutes to catch my breath.  I read how opioids are used to help eliminate breathlessness and thank god I had some saved from years earlier as that was my first step that got me on the right path and lucky I got medicaid approved although I’ve spent about $2,200 so far.

I currently am taking something called kratom which is legal in my state and has small amounts of opioids in it to help with my breathing difficulty.  Without that, I’d be in a lot of trouble with breathlessness. I’m also doing a homemade ionic foot detox bath to reduce a sensitivity to mold toxins to make me feel better.

I’ve been to the ER 3 times, urgent care 3 times and multiple doctor appointments for cardiologist and saw a neurologist  I’ve had 3 CT scans and two MRI scans.  I even spent 12 hours in the covid quarantine area at the ER and I have nothing but good things to say about the nurses and doctors in the quarantine unit of my local hospital.  I also did Ultrasound/echocardiogram of heart and many times hooked up to ECG to see how heart is beating.  So many doctors and tests showed the heart was fine that the only other symptoms that could cause what I was going through would be certain dementias and so was researching that for a long time.  But it wasn’t till they put me on a treadmill today and then monitored my heart is when everything showed up.

The short answer is if I do any amount of exercise the heart beats erratically.  Then I’ll get chest pain, confusion, dizziness, shortness of breath, etc..  The past couple of months I have done nothing but allowed myself to heal which has helped a lot.  And from a biofeedback doctor says a problem in my brainstem which is also area that’s responsible for breathing and other automatic functions.  

From what I can gather from all doctor appointments, my heart nearly gave out a couple months ago.  I guess it wasn’t my time to go as I’m starting to recover a bit better each day but not nearly like everyone else.  Heart disease runs in my family and I’m sure I’ll have multiple near misses in my life, in the future, until it’s my time to go.  But fortunately it’s not anytime soon.  

Anyway, thanks for all the kind words from months ago.  It meant a lot.

Glad to hear you that you made it, jdp! As mentioned before we all appreciate your contributions over the years.

Thanks imprisoned-radical. I appreciate it.

Nice to see you back jdp. I think we all feared the worst. I'm a little confused. Was it covid 19 that caused this? Or was it something in your genetic background that gradually came to the forefront? Did your mom have covid or did she share the same genetic problems as you? You mentioned mold and possible botulism toxins in past posts. Was this confirmed by doctors?

Thanks shaftless.  I’m still not feeling good but I’m not dying and have a better understanding what happened but still not a full understanding.  

Nobody knows if we had covid or not.  We both had all the symptoms of it.  We both got extremely ill overnight and my mom bedridden.  We both responded fairly well initially to antiviral treatments but eventually was no longer enough.  Antivirals eventually stopped working... I assume because covid or whatever it was was mostly gone. However, I should have focused my efforts to healing the heart and brain in late May instead of antivirals.  That’s where I was wrong and my mom maybe would still be alive if I did. Very broken up over this whole thing. Causing me a lot of heartache. The nurse when I was in the quarantine covid unit at ER was positive it was covid.

What we do know is in both our heart and brain were severely affected.  I have very bad heart arythmia if I do anything which I did not have before. I still have “severe” shortness of breath which is neurological and I’m still 20 pounds lighter.  I’m 5’11” and 143 pounds when I use to weigh 165.  

I’m taking a lewy body/alzheimers medication supplement called galantamine to help reverse neurological damage.  A biofeedback doc says vascular related and I assume vascular dementia.  Some kind of damage to brain.  My blood oxygen would get as low as 82 if not careful.  My brain literally doesn’t tell my lungs to breath.  On the monitor at hospital you could see it very clear... very shallow breathing.

I personally suspect covid in april because I don’t know of anything else that causes the symptoms and was gone by late May but damage to heart caused my mom to pass away and nearly me.  Mold toxins in house also made things worse.

shaftless wrote:Nice to see you back jdp. I think we all feared the worst. I'm a little confused. Was it covid 19 that caused this? Or was it something in your genetic background that gradually came to the forefront? Did your mom have covid or did she share the same genetic problems as you? You mentioned mold and possible botulism toxins in past posts. Was this confirmed by doctors?

I recall mention of poor air quality, possible 5G activity and some pesticide laden fruit. If we examine the separation of iron from hemoglobin, a thrombosis occurs that creates the syndrome characterized by "the thing" 

Will wait for JDP to weigh in.

No doubt this city was chemtrailed constantly like I’ve never seen in a very very long time.  Everybody was coughing and had cold in the city a couple months before.  

5g has been right next to my house on a lamp post for a couple years.  I don’t think a cause but only a stressor to the body over years.  I don’t think 5g is responsible.  

I live at 6000 ft elevation.  Visited my brother 2 weeks ago for a couple days to 1000 sq ft elevation and was easier to breath because of lower elevation.  They have 5g there as well.

I think corona was created in a lab.

I should mention from biofeedback doctor that my blood viscosity is very bad and blood clotting is also very bad.

6 years ago I never had that problem on last check.

My very expensive biofeedback device always said heart problem and respiratory infection in both of us in May. I continued sessions on myself and still said that in sept.

One thing I did learn when I was in covid unit at hospital is all the patients are more miserable than anyone can imagine. Not that they are gasping for air like you see on TV but they feel and emotionally feel horrible. If you’ve seen people with cancer or heart disease dying or whatever they all are not doing good at all. But the covid people are the most miserable out of any group of people I’ve seen.

I use to be very happy. I could push my health problems aside and put on a happy face. But since this whole thing I’ve gone through, I’m very miserable 2/3 of the time. I suspect that’s one of the hallmarks of covid.

There's a group on facebook called covid longhaulers (or something like that) which are all covid recoverers but with lasting side effects. Some are pretty young and complain about weakness, tiredness, malaise. Some wonder if they will ever be back to normal. All we can do is hope.

Thanks. 109,000 members.  Crazy

Back in June wasn’t in the greatest shape but could function.  

Last 5 days when my mother was going to pass away I spent a lot of the time with my mom face to face.  Looking into each others eyes in bed to comfort each other.  After a day or two my throat was on absolute fire.  Could not breath.  Throat closed up.  I eventually relented and started wearing two very thick masks to reduce exposure and was able to continue face to face.  

About two weeks after is when everything went from bad to verge of dying.  To this day still have very bad weak throat on one side that doesn’t swallow well and one lung that doesn’t want to breath well.

I think if I didn’t spend the face to face time I wouldn’t have been nearly as bad.

I really don’t know what else other than covid causes that.

JDP, good to hear you are doing better!  

Jdp710 wrote:I should mention from biofeedback doctor that my blood viscosity is very bad and blood clotting is also very bad.  

By "bad" do you mean that you are at risk for blood clots, or the opposite (your blood is too thin)?  If the former, nattokinase could be helpful. In reply to my earlier comment you mention having "natto" available, but that's not the same thing.  

Jdp710 wrote:
I currently am taking something called kratom which is legal in my state and has small amounts of opioids in it to help with my breathing difficulty.  Without that, I’d be in a lot of trouble with breathlessness.

Everything I've read suggests opiods are contra-indicated for respiratory distress (pneumonia, etc.).  Here is a case report linking kratom use to ARDS: https://www.atsjournals.org/doi/abs/10.1164/ajrccm-conference.2018.197.1_MeetingAbstracts.A6604.  Of course there is a lot of fear-mongering around kratom and opiods, but I would be cautious in light of the literature. https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20180212/another-downside-to-opioid-use-

shaftless wrote:There's a group on facebook called covid longhaulers (or something like that) which are all covid recoverers but with lasting side effects. Some are pretty young and complain about weakness, tiredness, malaise. Some wonder if they will ever be back to normal. All we can do is hope.

"All we can do is hope" perfectly sums up the problem with such groups.  "Hope" for what?  For mainstream medicine to come up with a cure? A vaccination? A U.S. president to endorse a wonder drug?  In my book, waiting around for Pharma to come up with an effective treatment for any disease is an excellent definition of insanity.