Dr. B’s coronavirus results

A drug treatment, but worth a look:

https://youtu.be/eDSDdwN2Xcg

Yesterday, could hardly eat anymore. “Extreme” unable to breath yesterday which happens when I eat a mealfor about 8 hours. Unable to sleep because of breath.

Started on the process I think last night unless I call it off... so about 14 hours in. Weight exactly 143 now. Was 166 before covid or whatever this is. Haven’t been eating less, just losing weight consistently, unable to breath and everything outlined in the past.

Talked with family in person and over the phone for hours. Said goodbyes if needed. They understand and are supportive so am very grateful. Will spoon feed me applesauce with tylenol for pain if I ask to go through with it and not a dry run. Just hope they don’t backout and change their minds. Hoping it’s a peaceful way to go then the torture I’ve been going through.

India is now stockpiling a drug used to cure psoriasis...itolizumab. They did random trials on covid patients too and everyone who took the drug got better.

I speed up dehydration process probably by 18 hours.  I think I should be around 1 1/2 days.  Outside air temps are 100 degrees so got dehydrated a lot by going out.  

Weight 141.8 now.  Mind and emotions are surprisingly peaceful.  The products the dr recommends are legit.  Appears this method is legit.  No water, no food.  Uncomfortable mouth but not like anything being dehydrated without dry mouth aids.  Mild headache, moderate heartache and sometimes pain in side.  Feels like enough days heart could give out rather than peacefully slipping away.  But no agony like I’ve been going through.  Little surprised actually.

Feels like those who meditate and die when their time comes, many probably do a variation of this method.

Hope this helps someone

I'm trying not to judge you. Don't know much about you. Don't know what you've been through. Let's just say I am having a hard time with you doing this. I'm holding out hope that the fasting will release stem cells that will heal you. Make you feel like wanting to live again.

But I'm reading every word JDP. You're not alone.

Thanks for the kind words zixcreator!  It’s not about not wanting to live. No depression or anything.  I should have died many times over the years.  Body is wrecked and by strong will was able to not die.  But that has consequences.  

You see, many people in life cling to living so much it’s like a rubberband.  They pull and pull on that rubberband so much that their life is like a nightmare just to stay alive.  The anguish is very bad.  We’ve all heard those people who force themselves to live so they could finish one last thing or see one last person before they pass.  Then when it’s done, they release that rubberband and they pass away.  

We’ve also heard those people who in their old age people say, I would never want to be in their shoes.  They have no quality of life.  What those people have done is clung to life so much, they have stretched that rubberband that their will is the only thing keeping them alive.  The consequences of doing that is their life is like a nightmare.  Eventually they say, I’ve had enough and they pass away.  

Eventually, all your longings, cravings and desires leave and one decides to stop pullng on that rubberband.  Let things happen.  Let god take control... surrender to god.  

The corona wrecked me.  My health wasn’t good before but the corona or whatever happened really is as bad as they show on TV.  Just a small percent get it that bad. I did have plans with my life.  I’m not sad because my plan didn’t work out.  Just have to adapt to changing circumstances.

I believe in fate that things always happen as a preplanned event.  That we are all in god’s hands.  I also believe that we, through very strong will live longer than we should have but at what expense?  The expense is more and more pain and suffering.

I hope all this makes sense because it’s a bit fuzzy for me to explain.

A month ago, when I got hit with a second wave, similar to what hit my mom a second time I figured I had a 50/50 chance of living.  A few days ago, things got even worse and raised it to 60/40.  A family member said they thought it was 40/60 so you can get the idea. Those are probably my odds of eating or drinking again.

FWIW, weight now 140.4.  Mouth isn’t dry.  The dr is correct in his video.  Pulse 120 when I stand.  Falls back to normal sitting down.  Eyes look a lot more peaceful now.  Bigger and looking upward a bit.  At peace 100%.  Minor pains but no big deal.  Heart hurts.  Can feel it.  Brain losing ability to form proper sentences..  Emotions and everything. Ery peaceful.  I can also breath which I’ve struggled with recently.  Again, the dr said breathing is easy.  Just have to beware of drinking water or eating food as that is why so many have a hard death when they reduce food and liquid.  

Hope this helps someone.  

Jdp, I also am sad to hear about what is happening.

You have helped many people on this forum, and I believe you still have much to offer to the world. Would be very sad to see people on this forum speculating about you if we stop seeing your posts.

Not sure if this would mean anything to you, but I'll post here a video of a Billy Graham sermon:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sU2eShsojY

Sometimes you know that there is meaning in what a person is saying just by the way they say it. Sometimes I play these sermons while I sleep, and they have been one of the last few things keeping me together during the last several years. Maybe there is something in them that you might find.

I also want to leave. But like you described I am just "clinging" to a few things that keep me in this world. I take a walk everyday and there are a few cats who live in my neighborhood that are always thrilled to see me. My favorite one, its owner has been keeping indoors so I miss her, but I still see the others. One other thing that keeps me here is this song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxPj3GAYYZ0

Maybe if you hold out a while longer you might find a few things that will keep you here.

I've thought about you a couple times today since morning, and I still have hope that you will not go through with this.

Thanks for the kind words imprisoned-radical!  Watched most of billy graham and also good song!

I promise you the world is a better place than what most people think.  It’s sad that so many people, especially the younger generations feel each day.  The pain and heartache is real.  Their experiences are real. But if they could only see, only feel how great many people really are it would put a smile on their face.  

Unfortunately, we mostly see, mostly feel the pain that others inflict on each other.  They do that because they are still a very young soul.  They bark and bite others as a defense mechanism and a way to get further in life.  Give it time and even these people will slowly change their life... or in a future life.

I remember one person on the internet say his plan for his life was to go to the animal shelter and pick up an aging dog or cat. Give the dog or cat the best life you could possibly give. Then when the dog or cat passes away, get another and love the dog or cat the most anyone ever could.  Keep doing this.

I’ll tell you anyone that does that in life will have the best outlook on life.  They will have understood what life is really about.  They will also have a lot of furry friends in the next life.  They will also have forgotten their own problems in life.  Their outlook will have changed.  That the love that you give out will be radiated right back to yourself.  Maybe not right away but with enough years it will.  

Anyway, just a thought.  Hope this helps and god bless you.

JDP Do you have anyone there with you? Personally I would drink water. Not take any calories. Maybe the release of stem cells might repair damaged tissue. Dying from dehydration to me sounds miserable. Starving to death would be my choice. You know best though.

Thanks for the info zixcreator.  I do have one person who was going to help a bit.  And I think you’re right about starving for a long period.  At least before dehydration might be ideal.

For me, I had to backout.  So it’s not happening anytime soon.  I was much further along dehydation than I realized.  Probably equivalent of 3 days.  Hallucinations an such from lights at night.  No mouth dehydration so not unpleasant at all.  But reason why I had to backout is I need a sedative and a bed that raises your head.  Can’t sleep so arms and legs start going everywhere, tossing and turning from dying process.

I don’t feel better drinking water now.  I actually feel much much worse all over again.  Can’t breath again, light headed from probable heart failure.  Back to being tortured.  But the dr was correct about zero water, zero food was peaceful.  However, he should have warned about needing a sedative otherwise one will flail around everywhere on the bed till you runout of energy.  I’m sure his patients were on some kind of sedative.  Or starving for a very long period of time and then withholding water might work.  

Thanks for the kind words everyone.

Jdp...you may not be depressed but you're making us all depressed. Why can't you ask your doctor for these drugs that were mentioned??? It's worth one last try. If not here's hoping you outlast the potency of this virus and you make a slow and gradual climb back. Chaga mushroom extract is a great immune booster if you want to try something natural. But at least try one of those drugs mentioned (budesonide...itolizumab...remdesiver)....in the name of SCIENCE if not for anything else.

Shaft I try to encourage JDP to tell us his thoughts. Depressing or not. We're all encouraging him to live but at the same time we are a source of support. I'm listening to him. We all crave being heard. So as a friend I am hearing him. But yes.....I too wish he would see a doctor or focus on getting better. But that is for him to decide.

I lost touch with JDP for many years so I personally have no idea what he has been through or is going through. I will say this. There are worse things that can happen to us in this life than dying.

shaftless,

Before this thread, I tried showing my journey with this. The takeaway is all the effective treatments only work as a preventative or must be taken asap to work. I tried just about everything already.

Once the damage is done it’s done. It’s not that these treatments don’t work but they don’t work reversing the damage. Many coronavirus people, are out saying they never get better. Coronavirus is certainly one of the worst things I’ve ever seen in my life. I actually didn’t realize one could suffer this much this long that’s how bad this is.

I did see a Doctor or a physician back around june 20th for my antibodies test. She stood at the door fired off several questions extremely fast. I reply my mom and I both got extremely ill in April. It was like the flu x2 or 3. She died and I lived. Her eyes got wide, she held her breath and walked right out the door. The nurse spent a couple seconds checking blood pressure, oxygen and then drew blood.

That’s what healthcare is like in my state. Nobody is there to help you. No checking heart, lungs or anything. I could give a lot of examples but it never ends.

I don’t mean to make everyone depressed. Just trying to chronical my journey with this. I thought it would have helped others. Or maybe make others take corona seriously.

Thanks for the kind words zixcreator. I wish these conversations were on a better subject.

I don't know jdp? Like isn't this one of the most important conversations anyone can ever have?

Not that it really means anything but what did the antibody test reveal? Maybe you said it in another post and I just missed it. Wouldn't surprise me if it were negative for antibodies though.

CausticSymmetry wrote:A drug treatment, but worth a look:

https://youtu.be/eDSDdwN2Xcg

I'm having trouble following the dr here. Is the drug simply pulmicort nasal spray?

Yeah, definetely most important but most sad conversation anyone could ever have.  Most people when they become this ill are put out of sight out of mind in our culture.  And then it becomes our turn one day.  Only a very small percent have a good death.  Was trying to relay any information if this could be good method as their is almost no information out there on this topic.  

But yeah, the medical examiner refused to do any coronavirus testing on my mother even though they knew she caught a really bad flu that killed her and I became very ill.

My brother who had some minor exposure got a test for the active infection came back negative.  Out of curiousity I did an antibody test came back negative.  I had a major blood clot in my ankle right before getting ill.  A family member exposed to us in April at the worst period had minor symptoms back in late April and got over it quick.  

I just don’t believe these tests are that accurate.  People around here that know our situation say we must have caught something else.  Possible but what else causes all the symptoms of coronavirus with blood clots and massive heart issues and my accurate testing machine says and still says respiratory infection.

The other possibility is we never had coronavirus but we both had massive heart attacks at the exact same time and developed a respiratory infection like pneumonia at same time.  It’s possible, and does happen.

There's an over-the-counter steroid nasal spray that I used that cleared up an upper lung thing I had. It was called Nasacort and another one is Flonase. It's mostly for allergy relief but I had a bad cold (bronchitis) at the time and it helped. You can get it anywhere and even if it doesn't attack a pathogen it can bring you some relief maybe. Pulmicort is a steroid recommended by that video doctor but probably way more potent. Still....

I’ll try it.

For some reason why you treat the nose for congestion the lungs get better. They don't really know why that is but it is a fact. Not sure I asked you this JDP but after you take a shower is your breathing better for awhile?

Allergy medication doesn’t seem to help. Showers don’t help but ice cold showers do and making the room ice cold also helps. Breathing is easier the colder it is.

With heart failure, they reduce your liquids on purpose. Which makes your heart easier to pump to the rest of the body. For me, eating food and drinking water is absolutely brutal. Torture. Can’t describe how bad the breathlessness is. I know it’s because of the probable heart failure. It’s not getting better but each day is slightly worse. Can’t really physically talk anymore. Very weak. Losing weight.

If I eat less food and water, I’ll lose weight at a faster rate but won’t be as bad on me. I can eat same amount of food and water which is what I have been doing. The heart has a hard time pumping and life is torture.

I don’t mean this to be a downer of a post. Just trying to explain. Thanks for listening zixcreator.

OK. I can be very dense. It finally sunk in. CHF. Congestive heart failure. Lot of people get that. Hopefully, as your weight comes down, things may improve. But if it doesn't I'm still hearing you. Just would rather see you get better and live.

Also fits with why eating and even drinking makes things worse. Have you noticed if there is any fluids which you don't feel worse drinking? Black coffee? Green tea. Black tea? Anything?

Chf is pretty easily diagnosed with a chest x-ray. So if you went to a cardiologist and got an x-ray and it revealed CHF he could put you one one of many different meds. Prolonging your life. Making you feel better. But I realize you hate the medical system but I just thought I'd say that.

If you want to possibly live longer and don't want to go the conventional medicine route you could use natural things that contain the compounds used for CHF by the drug industry.

Beta blockers (carvedilol, metoprolol, bisoprilol)
ACE inhibitors (lisinopril, captopril)
Angiotensin receptor blockers (losartan)
Combination medicines (Entresto, or sacubitril/valsartan)
Aldosterone antagonist (spironolactone, eplerenone)
Digoxin (Lanoxin)

There are foods and teas that do contain these things. I was thinking mainly of a tea at this point. Treat the dehydration with something that will, at the same time, strengthen the heart beat. That way you won't feel worse by drinking them.

But in the end this is your life. Your choice. I respect that. Gonna listen and hear you and care no matter what you do. I also very much appreciate you chronicling your experiences.

Thanks zixcreator! Heart disease and stroke runs on both sides of my family. The only ones that lived long were those who drank alcohol and/or drugs. But they lost their empathy in the process and weren’t pleasant people.

You’re absolutely correct about prolonging life with all that. Have no doubt about that. In fact causticsymmetry/Brian specializes in it and has great info on the topic. I just don’t believe the tradeoff is worth it. It would be nice to go out quickly toward the beginning rather than dragging out the inevitable for years watching quality of life disappear.

Not depressed about the situation one bit. Actually happy as I did everything and did everything correct in life. The thing that would make me depressed is if got sicker and sicker, then I’m put in a home where they force people to live with IV’s and such. That’s what happens with most as you’re aware and something worse than death. That’s why I was trying to chronicle my experience with no food or water. Maybe it would have helped someone.

Anyway, trying to listen to the right thing to do. I’ll see what happens. Sure feels a lot better not drinking much and eating little. Bone broth such as soups work very well for drinking but eventually the sodium builds up and causes a problem. But other than that just regular water is best.

Thanks for everything zixcreator. You’re a good friend!