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Post  MikeGore Fri Mar 06, 2020 12:05 pm

There are so many type of Vitamin C.

Ester-C. Liposomal Vitamin C. Ascorbic Acid. Not sure what to get. Any advice?

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Post  imprisoned-radical Sun Mar 08, 2020 11:50 am

I'm interested in knowing also.

Would 1g/day liposomal vitamin C be a good starting point. Obviously most people are not able to administer vitamin C intravenously at home as a prevention measure.

Does vitamin C have any contraindications with common pharmaceuticals, say for diabetes or high cholesterol?

Is it possible to gradually increase vitamin C levels in the body, even though it is water-soluble? I have done some reading online, some sources say that the half-life is as low as 30 minutes and other sources say the half-life is more like 10-20 days.

Thanks in advance!

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Post  CausticSymmetry Sun Mar 08, 2020 4:12 pm

Could go one forever on the details...but just on the point of the coronavirus, for convenience, a lypospheric type C, such as. I have no knowledge on the dose for lypo-C and the coronavirus, however in cases of extreme flu-like symptoms and respiratory symptoms. 2 to 5 grams per day should be enough.

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Regular plain ascorbic acid, the protocol is take 2 grams every six minutes until symptoms go away.

That might sound extreme, but remember that the more sick a person is, the more they can handle without a flush.

High cholesterol is not a disease, not is it any pathological condition. Absolutely zero research (using the scientific method) exists anywhere showing that high cholesterol leads to health problems, including atherosclerosis. However, low cholesterol is often seen in cancer and depression.  But I digress, with respect to vitamin C and diabetes, there is no issue there.

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Post  imprisoned-radical Mon Mar 09, 2020 5:12 am


High cholesterol is not a disease, not is it any pathological condition. Absolutely zero research (using the scientific method) exists anywhere showing that high cholesterol leads to health problems, including atherosclerosis. However, low cholesterol is often seen in cancer and depression. But I digress, with respect to vitamin C and diabetes, there is no issue there.

Yes, I agree. However when family members have been on a number of pharmaceuticals for several years, it becomes a question of whether adding natural treatments/supplements can create some kind of reaction. It is something I need to research, how to effectively wean someone off of pharmaceutical treatments while simultaneously reversing the underlying conditions. It becomes difficult when the person is older (60s).

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Post  CausticSymmetry Mon Mar 09, 2020 7:51 am

imprisoned-radical wrote:

High cholesterol is not a disease, not is it any pathological condition. Absolutely zero research (using the scientific method) exists anywhere showing that high cholesterol leads to health problems, including atherosclerosis. However, low cholesterol is often seen in cancer and depression.  But I digress, with respect to vitamin C and diabetes, there is no issue there.

Yes, I agree. However when family members have been on a number of pharmaceuticals for several years, it becomes a question of whether adding natural treatments/supplements can create some kind of reaction. It is something I need to research, how to effectively wean someone off of pharmaceutical treatments while simultaneously reversing the underlying conditions. It becomes difficult when the person is older (60s).

Yes, true the picture really gets muddy when pHarmacueticals are added. However, Vitamin C is a general fixer, really has no contraindications. To be really technical, there is a pre-supposed contraindication which is called glucose-6-phosphate dehydrogenase (G6PD). But in actual clinical practice, it doesn't seem to a factor in the real world. So when high-dose IV-C is used some clinicians will screen for it...but really--it doesn't seem to matter. Things like this are usually something an overzealous academic would screen (out of general bias towards cut, burn and poison standard death care advocate).

The true harm in say, diabetes 'care' is that virtually all treatments used as "standard of care" do great harm to the patient. I called it being licensed to kill slowly with the end goal by the drug/medical cartel to ensnare the patient on a lifetime of side-effect generating drugs that will lead to more devastating health consequences.

Cholesterol lowering-poisons, are generally safe to drop without a moment of hesitation
Blood pressure drugs, are not so cut and dry, and have to be carefully evaluated.
Thiazide diuretics destroy the kidneys and worsen diabetes, plus anything that lowers A1C will put the
patient into the grave early (yes, lowering HbA1c, glycated hemoglobin by way of pharmaceuticals increases mortality rates).
Most of the drugs cause nutrient depletion, which makes the disease worse.

All that being said, most people who believe in medical care system are fine with it, sort of wear it like a badge of honor.
I used to waste time show research and it doesn't phase them. Cardiologists won't even blink and eye when I show them research that taking statin drugs increases coronary calcium by poisoning vitamin K and destroying the mitochondria.

I think the kick backs destroy any incentives for anything to change. Only when the person is motivated within to seek alternative ways is there any real hope. Truthfully, reversing type 2 diabetes is easy.

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Post  Jdp710 Tue Mar 10, 2020 3:24 pm

CausticSymmetry wrote:I have no knowledge on the dose for lypo-C and the coronavirus, however in cases of extreme flu-like symptoms and respiratory symptoms. 2 to 5 grams per day should be enough

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-elCYFhqJs&feature=youtu.be

Here is a report. Probably oral ascorbic acid.

“Right before the Chinese New Year, around January 21st, her mother developed flu-like symptoms, with a low grade fever of 38C. Based on her knowledge. Ms. N advised all members of the family to take oral vitamin C. She herself has been taking about 20,000 mg daily in divided-up doses. Her mother reluctantly took a smaller dose, probably half or less of what her daughter's been taking.

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Her mother's condition was stable for 9-10 days. But on January 30th, without deteriorating, her mother decided to go to Wuhan Union Hospital, Tongji College of Medicine, The Science and Technology University of Central China, a hospital prominent not only in Wuhan, but in all of China. She wanted to check out if she was infected with the Wuhan pneumonia virus. She got her presumption confirmed. At the hospital, she was diagnosed of what became known now as Covid-19 pneumonia. The second day upon admission, her fever started going up, as high as 39.6C. In about 10 days on February 10th she was admitted to the Intensive Care Unit and went on the heart-lung machine as a final attempt to save her life.

At this time Ms. N learned of the clinical trials with vitamin C, administered by infusion (IVC; intravenous vitamin C). Immediately she requested the person in charge on the ICU to use large dose IVC on her mother. The attending physician agreed but would go only to around 10,000 mg. So it happened. After 20 days in ICU, her mother improved and was discharged to a regular ward a few days ago, continuing the IVC treatment, as insisted by Ms. N.

While in hospital, Miss N, her brother and sister-in-law took turns to visit and take care of her mother. They were wearing very simple protection: gloves and masks. Also noted is that while her mother got sick at home, none of the five other family members was wearing any mask for several days. But all of them went on oral vitamin C tablets. None of them developed COVID-19 infection.


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Post  Jdp710 Tue Mar 10, 2020 3:30 pm

Fwiw, Oximeter might be a good idea. Helping detect possible illness. Not everyone has fever, cough etc but most all seems have low oxygen as biggest symptom.

You’ll need to know what your oxygen levels are usually before infection.

I’ve used this branD for years no problem.

https://smile.amazon.com/Zacurate-Fingertip-Oximeter-Saturation-Batteries/dp/B06Y2FFQB9/ref=sr_1_6?keywords=Oximeter&qid=1583813692&sr=8-6

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Post  imprisoned-radical Thu Mar 12, 2020 8:42 pm

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/14787210.2020.1706483

From what reading I have done, it seems that vitamin C should be taken/administered before exposure to the virus. Taking it after exposure has limited effect. It enhances the immune response, does not have any antiviral effects itself. I have read about the clinical trials administering vitamin C to those who are already infected. Most likely the real advantage is in using it as a preventative measure.

I have everyone in my family taking vitamin C supplements, hoping to raise their levels. Not so worried for myself since I am young and more likely to recover but I am worried about older relatives with preexisting conditions, and perhaps weaker immune systems.

The concerning thing about coronavirus is that it has been reported to remain active on surfaces for multiple days, and can even remain in air for some period of time.






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Post  imprisoned-radical Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:48 pm

Found some good information here:
https://medium.com/@gorandamcevski_70356/covid-19-stage-1-exploration-of-treatment-options-9b638d48ab03

Quercetin seems to have the same mechanism of action as chloroquine / hydroxychloroquine.


The recommended dose is 50–100mg/kg. If we take the dose of (50mg/kg), and extrapolate it to a 100kg person, we would need a 5g effective dose, which can be spread to two 2.5g daily doses. Precaution is warned, since quercetin is shown to be effective against influenza (Wenjiao et al., 2016) but we have good reason to suspect that it is effective against COVID-19 because of the similar action mechanism as chloroquine phosphate. Two scientists are currently testing (CBC Radio, 2020) it on COVID-19 in cooperation with chinese researchers.


Although quercetin and its derivatives can be found in plants from the grocery store, the chances are that the dose will be too small in order for it to have a meaningful effect against the COVID-19 virus. However, it is also shown that zinc ionophores stay in the body for at least 10 days as seen in Figure 4 from (Yao et al., 2020), so there might be a reason to suspect that with a continuous diet from quercetin sources (such as red onion, radicchio, etc), cells might be able to build up immunity against the virus, and help the immune system fight the infection in the early phases.

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Post  CausticSymmetry Wed Apr 01, 2020 2:21 am

Excellent point,

There are these for instance, a type of quercetin that has a "drug-like" effect as in extremely absorbable/bio-available, using Alpha-Glycosyl Isoquercitrin.

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Post  Jdp710 Wed Apr 01, 2020 4:39 am

FWIW, coronavirus might not be just viral but also need to treat the bacteria associated with it and maybe other pathogens too.  Many in the Rife community know that when you come down with a pathogen such as the flu, it’s not just the flu virus that needs to be addressed but their are always other associated pathogens too.

Probably why using the antiviral is good but using it with the antibiotic combo and even better with zinc has shown to basically be the treatment for the most part.  

I just saw this from another forum

“> *The 2019 Wuhan outbreak is caused by the bacteria Prevotella, which
> is aided by the coronavirus,
possibly to adhere to epithelial cells -
> Prevotella is present in huge amounts in patients from both China and
> Hong Kong*”. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/339008515_The_2019_Wuhan_outbreak_is_caused_by_the_bacteria_Prevotella_which_is_aided_by_the_coronavirus_possibly_to_adhere_to_epithelial_cells_-_Prevotella_is_present_in_huge_amounts_in_patients_from_both_Chin?fbclid=IwAR2lzaAX6_zayyIWNbo-asjF-qwHBUOKmKzGRTyf0M5U88VpTHtR4zL4018

From the abstract

”The high mortality is being caused by targeting only the virus (which is also present). This is a two pronged attack”...

Dr. L energetically tested one person in Washington US and he had both.  So this bacteria also appears to be outside Asia.  

Note this was all published back in Feb. From everything. I’m aware, China has a handle on this outbreak.  The west is either extreme incompetence at every level or they want to keep us locked in our homes while they take their time handling this outbreak.

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