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Post  CausticSymmetry Mon Mar 23, 2020 3:36 am

Zaphod wrote:There are several, actually so many I will probably miss a few important:


It will stimulate the immune system through activation of NK and T cells and monocytes.

Ascorbic acid is able to decrease activity (degrade) Hypoxia Inducible Factor -1 alpha activity which is how the cell is being starved from oxygen,

oxidised form (dehydroascorbate) have easy way entering the cell through GLUT channels (glucose pathway), modulating the ATP production,

Ascorbic acid assists in the production of the nitric oxide, which is toxic to the virus,

It will reduce oxidative stress,

It can improve mitochondrial function, with improving membrane potential,

Modulate cytokine storms, which if not mitigate would lead to pulmonary fibrosis. This was shown also in the younger population.

Well stated.

I'll add that the basic function of vitamin C from an immune standpoint is to increase phagocytosis (the engulfing of pathogens). If enough vitamin C makes it to the bloodstream (typically through IV~>10 grams) the white cells will increase hydrogen peroxide to explode pathogens.

As vitamin C accumulates in phagocytic cells, such as neutrophils, it can enhance chemotaxis, phagocytosis, generation of reactive oxygen species (free radicals) ultimately microbe destroying. It is also needed for apoptosis (programmed cell death) and clearance of the spent neutrophils from sites of infection by macrophages, thereby decreasing necrosis and netosis (release of decondensed chromatin and granular contents to the extracellular space) and potential tissue damage.

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Post  CausticSymmetry Mon Mar 23, 2020 3:49 am

I'll compile a full list tomorrow on a protocol for protection.


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Post  CF Mon Mar 23, 2020 5:19 am

CausticSymmetry wrote:I'll compile a full list tomorrow on a protocol for protection.


Thank you CS! Much obliged.

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Post  Zaphod Mon Mar 23, 2020 7:47 am

CS is very good writer, i will come back to this thread... Very Happy And maybe i will also write on topic, as there is a lot to say on V-C of different forms.

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Post  imprisoned-radical Mon Mar 23, 2020 3:58 pm

Are there recommendations for how to keep an indoor space free of airborne virus? Humidifier, etc.

Still seems that the general trend is that the infection is not spreading rapidly in warmer countries. The exception is Australia, which is having a steep increase in cases.

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Post  theseeker86 Mon Mar 23, 2020 8:21 pm

CausticSymmetry wrote:I'll compile a full list tomorrow on a protocol for protection.


Well this protocol help even without access to IV vit C? I'm in no short supply of supplemental form.

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Post  CausticSymmetry Tue Mar 24, 2020 4:27 am

Many people do not have access to IV (intravenous Vitamin C) and even many Lypopheric C's are difficult to find.

Did find this:

https://amzn.to/3div8pr

For regular, plain ascorbic acid (Vitamin C)

2 grams every 6 minutes until symptoms are gone.

Or 10 grams every 30 minutes until symptoms are gone.

200 mcg of Selenomethionine (not other forms)

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Vitamin D3 (varies), but vegans will not make enough (need cholesterol sources) or will need pre-activated form. Most people need about 5,000 IU.

Vitamin A (very antiviral)

25,000 IU for at least a month.

Magnesium: 400 mg daily (in malate or chloride form). Many people are deficient in magnesium, because modern agriculture often does not supply adequate magnesium in the soil, and food processing removes magnesium. It is an extremely important nutrient that is essential for hundreds of biochemical pathways. A blood test for magnesium cannot correctly diagnose a deficiency. A long-term deficiency of magnesium can build up in the body that may take 6 months to a year of higher than normal doses to replete.

A very cheap and highly beneficial adjunct for any acute infection, especially viral, is oral magnesium chloride. Amazingly, just as intravenous vitamin C has been shown to cure polio, an oral magnesium chloride regimen has been shown to do the same thing, as or even more effectively than the vitamin C

Nebulized hydrogen peroxide

Thomas E. Levy, MD: "Viral syndromes start or are strongly supported by ongoing viral replication in the naso- and oropharynx. When appropriate agents are nebulized (into a fine spray) and this viral presence is quickly eliminated, the rest of the body "mops up" quite nicely the rest of the viral presence. The worst viral infections are continually fed and sustained by the viral growth in the pharynx. Probably the best and most accessible agent to nebulize would be 3% hydrogen peroxide for 15 to 30 minutes several times daily.

Breathing Brown's Gas

Particularly because Brown’s Gas has already been endorsed for COVID-19 therapy by both the Chinese Government, EU organizations and UK Doctors.

Brown’s Gas (aka HydrOxy or HHO) inhalation has been confirmed helpful to treat the pneumonia caused by coronavirus. Hydrogen molecules do not directly target the new coronavirus, but can eliminate the inflammation caused by the virus, so as to play an auxiliary therapeutic role. The most superior feature is anti-inflammatory and no side effects. Anyone can use it. This is report from national health commission of China.

National Health Commission of the People's Republic of China says "Inhaling mixed 66.6% hydrogen and 33.3% oxygen is advised to treat the covid-19 virus pneumonia.”  As #1 on their treatment list.
Original Document
http://www.nhc.gov.cn/xcs/zhengcwj/202003/46c9294a7dfe4cef80dc7f5912eb1989.shtml

English Translation

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=zh-CN&u=https://baike.baidu.com/item/%25E6%2596%25B0%25E5%259E%258B%25E5%2586%25A0%25E7%258A%25B6%25E7%2597%2585%25E6%25AF%2592%25E8%2582%25BA%25E7%2582%258E%25E8%25AF%258A%25E7%2596%2597%25E6%2596%25B9%25E6%25A1%2588%25EF%25BC%2588%25E8%25AF%2595%25E8%25A1%258C%25E7%25AC%25AC%25E4%25B8%2583%25E7%2589%2588%25EF%25BC%2589&prev=search

Confirmation by the European Respiratory Society.
https://vimeo.com/395657458
Skip forward to 34 minutes to see the Chinese Doctor confirming they are using Brown's Gas (aka HydrOxy or HHO) to treat the COVID-19 and it's effectiveness (and see video of it being used).

Note that they don't call it 'Brown's Gas' in China, the say 66% (or 67%) hydrogen, 33% oxygen.

China is now doing a human study using Brown’s Gas to mitigate COVID-19.

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Post  Dudard Wed Mar 25, 2020 3:43 am

This forum is the only place I know where I can get information like this. Everyone else including alternative/independent media is all focused on preventing it by not coming into contact with the virus (social distancing). Why aren't we discussing why 80% of the occupants of the Diamond Princess cruise ship who were exposed but did not come down with the virus? What was special about those people? And why did 50% of those who tested positive have symptoms? Are there other information outlets that discuss bolstering our immune system (Bechamp germ theory) as a way of prevention and do people have immunity if they got the virus and recovered?

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Post  theseeker86 Wed Mar 25, 2020 4:21 am

Thanks for the write up, CS. I have vit C,D and A on hand as well as magnesium.

What are your thoughts on adding Quercetin to the list? I've seen a lot of mention about it on other health sites citing it works similar to some of those drugs that people are using at the moment to help with the virus.

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Post  CausticSymmetry Wed Mar 25, 2020 4:32 am

Dudard wrote:This forum is the only place I know where I can get information like this.  Everyone else including alternative/independent media is all focused on preventing it by not coming into contact with the virus (social distancing).  Why aren't we discussing why 80% of the occupants of the Diamond Princess cruise ship who were exposed but did not come down with the virus?  What was special about those people? And why did 50% of those who tested positive have symptoms? Are there other information outlets that discuss bolstering our immune system (Bechamp germ theory) as a way of prevention and do people have immunity if they got the virus and recovered?

As I have spoken to various people to get a sense of what various people are thinking, it's quite polarizing.

In one camp, there appears to be very wary people who take the corporate-sponsored news seriously, to a point of shaming others to keep isolated.

I will offer an opposing view based entirely on facts that anyone could research easily.

In my personal view this absolutely bizarre government push for quarantine is absurd when we consider the fact that statistically speaking, influenza dwarfs the current corona hysteria.

Here’s the proof: The overall burden of influenza for the 2017-2018 season was an estimated 45 million influenza illnesses, 21 million influenza-associated medical visits, 810,000 influenza-related hospitalizations, and 61,000 influenza-associated deaths.

The "emperor wears no clothes"

Few people understand that when the cause of death is written on a death certificate, it is of a political nature.
When people die, they often die of multiple complications, such as respiratory distress, heart failure, etc. During years in the past (depending on the hot hysteria at the time), the real motivation for writing the cause of death is based primarily on reimbursement. Translation - They want to get the most reimbursement.

Whatever that is at the time, they will be encouraged to write. Could be anything from MRSA, to Acquired Immunodeficiency Syndrome (AIDS), Ebola, SARS...just depends on what is "hot"

Now it's the corona that's the hot ticket.

Finally, if we examine the annual death rates worldwide, there is no statistical difference. While most places are relatively tiny with presumed corona infections (which would otherwise be considered influenza), one might ask well what about Italy?  The answer is, there is more incentive to label these as corona.

My deep concern is not the alleged virus, but what seems to an organized way to resolve underfunded pensions for retirees and create a system of vaccines and surveillance systems to track people. There's a huge nexus of various companies all tied in to make a killing and has been in place prior to this "plan-demic."

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Post  Jdp710 Wed Mar 25, 2020 4:14 pm

Dudard wrote:This forum is the only place I know where I can get information like this.  Everyone else including alternative/independent media is all focused on preventing it by not coming into contact with the virus (social distancing).  Why aren't we discussing why 80% of the occupants of the Diamond Princess cruise ship who were exposed but did not come down with the virus?  What was special about those people? And why did 50% of those who tested positive have symptoms? Are there other information outlets that discuss bolstering our immune system (Bechamp germ theory) as a way of prevention and do people have immunity if they got the virus and recovered?

Cruise ship had 5g. A month ago, there was a hospital that had 60% death rate. They had 5 g close.

City I live in the weather is nothing like I’ve ever seen. Insects, birds, mice, coyotes are all gone. Definetely weather modification in my city. People everywhere coughing and sneezing for couple months now. But nobody ill. Just cold like symptoms. Ican only guess this city has low 5g ... I guess.

Here is a good video. Read comment section too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFN5LUaqxOA&app=desktop

Fiji water I drink every day. Removes aluminum from body. Reduces my health symptoms. I also try to remove blood at my house. Like blood donation but I flush it down drain. Pectrasol Modified citrus pectin good to.

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Post  Jdp710 Wed Mar 25, 2020 4:16 pm

A NY Doctor shared with Hannity his Hydroxy Chloroquine/Azithromycin results.
200mg 2x daily Hydroxy Chloroquine
500mg 1x daily Azithromycin
220mg 1x daily Zinc sulfate

350 patients
• Breathing restored 3-4 hours
• Zero deaths
• Zero hospitalizations
• Zero intubations

https://mobile.twitter.com/RossFairchild/status/1242263727325483010

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Post  Dudard Wed Mar 25, 2020 11:58 pm

Finally, a little bit of coverage. https://nypost.com/2020/03/24/new-york-hospitals-treating-coronavirus-patients-with-vitamin-c/?utm_source=facebook_sitebuttons&utm_medium=site+buttons&utm_campaign=site+buttons&fbclid=IwAR1E0W8teaulyZWnHzo5qbGUpv0fGzEvWbTDu1EkTyx7yjMzteFcH7LVVRg

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Post  CausticSymmetry Thu Mar 26, 2020 2:46 am

Dudard wrote:Finally, a little bit of coverage.  https://nypost.com/2020/03/24/new-york-hospitals-treating-coronavirus-patients-with-vitamin-c/?utm_source=facebook_sitebuttons&utm_medium=site+buttons&utm_campaign=site+buttons&fbclid=IwAR1E0W8teaulyZWnHzo5qbGUpv0fGzEvWbTDu1EkTyx7yjMzteFcH7LVVRg

I saw that too, however he's really under-doing it. The best results with IV go way beyond 10,000 mg (10 grams)

Dudard - Great video you shared earlier.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFN5LUaqxOA&app=desktop


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Post  Dudard Thu Mar 26, 2020 4:52 am

Brian, Jdp710 posted the video. I watched it and I'm trying to wrap my head around it. as I understand the video, 5G started this virus thing by weakening people's immune systems in Wuhan. When it got started others with weakened immune systems either from 5G or just because their immune systems are not very strong caught the virus. It then spread to others with weakened immune systems. The solution would be to bolster our immune systems and stay away from 5G? How do we understand what's happening in Iran and Italy (weakened immune systems)?

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Post  Zaphod Thu Mar 26, 2020 6:14 am

Italians are the oldest population in EU. This for itself should tell you something. Not many die from the virus, but virus takes the blame since it came last...
Italy has a geographical position that in this time does not induce the best quantum yield when it comes to vitamin D levels. It is the worse time of the year, just before the spring for most of us...
Affected the most are industrial places, where people breathed less than optimal air for months. Now, this disease is about lung collapse.
(BTW - now the world literally stopped and air quality is improving dramatically).
Italians used a lot not very useful drugs to prevent deaths, including ibuprofen, which is immune suppressor, not a modulator.
Italians still do not address preventative measures to treat the affected population, before symptoms emerge, which is IMO the core problem of public health.
Despite being an advanced society, they were behind with treatment approaches, including IV-Cs, itn. If they do it, they do mistakes as burn veins...
Emergency medicine is well suited for improving the odds of survival when doing the cuts, but not when it is about giving people what it takes years to build- a functioning immune system and biochemistry. This reality of it creates most of the panic, media is exposing to run the show for more than needed...

I believe the struggle is real but is something that has happened and it will happen again, as our immune systems are toasts these days...
I think I had it (have it), but nobody bothered to test me, as their idea was to wait for 5 more days (change the testing routine to only the sick ones - now the statistics is ruined). I suppressed my symptoms before I would experience the flu, as i can not afford being sick to get a testing results... It was a result of a week of negligence on my body, dieting, sharing visit of 4 cities in 6 days. The last day I slept too few hours meanwhile travelling with public transport, taking 2 flights, and dropped a bit my oral hygiene, etc...

Melatonin has a role in preventing/treating it and it supports vitamin C functionally.

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Post  CausticSymmetry Thu Mar 26, 2020 6:18 am

Dudard wrote:Brian, Jdp710 posted the video.  I watched it and I'm trying to wrap my head around it.  as I understand the video, 5G started this virus thing by weakening people's immune systems in Wuhan.  When it got started others with weakened immune systems either from 5G or just because their immune systems are not very strong caught the virus.  It then spread to others with weakened immune systems. The solution would be to bolster our immune systems and stay away from 5G?  How do we understand what's happening in Iran and Italy (weakened immune systems)?

It's not entirely 5G, not at all. However, 5G certainly will not help.

Viruses are a shedding of toxins (from whatever origin). Vaccines and drugs are a good example, along with air pollution in addition to electrical and radiation influences.

Over 1100 scientific references to prove this point. There's very little 'science' to prove the virus causes the disease theory and is largely made up of conjecture. However, little argument on retroviruses from contaminated blood and vaccines causing disease.

Sanitation and clean water was one of the most overwhelming reasons why people are less prone to epidemics.
In regards to places like Iran or Italy, there is a subjective process to label the cause of death (it is political, not scientific).

Also, based entirely by the number of deaths, not statistically different from any other year. This is pure media/Deep State manipulation.

Also, bear in mind that tests for the corona virus are not scientific, whatsoever. It's a joke.

Zaphod, just added some good stuff.

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Post  Zaphod Thu Mar 26, 2020 6:33 am

CausticSymmetry wrote:

Also, bear in mind that tests for the corona virus are not scientific, whatsoever. It's a joke.

Zaphod, just added some good stuff.

Thanks Very Happy...

Can you explain why it is not scientific? The virus has been characterized with many varieties, and it is surely ones of the corona family. I don't know what they are testing, but they surely don't do a PCR on everybody, to be accurate.

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Post  imprisoned-radical Thu Mar 26, 2020 2:01 pm

I dont believe that this outbreak is a hoax.

I also think that while mainstream medicine is deeply misguided and heavily influenced by pharmaceutical companies, it still holds tremendous merit. I have several friends in the medical field and they are all brilliant.

Also have been watching a series of updates on the coronavirus on a YouTube by a medical doctor (MedCram by Dr. Seheult). It would be obvious to anyone that watches the videos that mainstream medicine and its approach to coronavirus is not some kind of a sham.

Just one of many examples, one of the recent advancements in ICU treatment methods was identifying that patients with impaired lung function (ARDS) have significantly reduced mortality rate when they are kept in prone position for some number of hours each day. What incentive would the pharmaceutical industry or otherwise profit-motivated medical industry have in such a treatment? Nothing.

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Post  CausticSymmetry Thu Mar 26, 2020 3:06 pm

The most common testing methods are antibody and PCR

Antibody tests are notorious for cross-reactions.

Real-time reverse transcription polymerase chain reaction requires a technician who will not make any number of possible mistakes.

Removing a tissue sample from a patient which might contain a tiny virus particles, way too too small to be observed. then it's amplified many times, so it can be seen.

However, the test isn't quantitative on about how much virus is in the patient’s body. This is relevant because millions of replicating virus in the body are necessary to even begin talking about actual illness.

So positive PCR test will be interpreted as the epidemic disease. Making matters worse, what evidence exists to show previously the PCR is testing for a virus that actually causes disease?

If something is indeed going on, it's probably due to 5G implementation. The FCC has opened up the millimeter wave band and they’re going to be broadcasting at 60 GHz… for the new 5G and the new Wifi. It’s called wi-gig…60GHz is the oxygen molecule absorption spectrum.

As 5G is being rolled out, we can observe what happens.

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Post  Jdp710 Thu Mar 26, 2020 6:28 pm

I can say, many years ago, 99% of moths and flies are gone in my city.  Probably from cell phone towers my guess.  

We use to be able to go outside, turn on a light and moths would fly around the light.  Or drive your car and bugs gets smashed on the widshield.  Not anymore.  You have to get out of the city to see them now.

This time, with 5g, we can be controlled through our emotions.  Emotions rule the stock market and economy.

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Post  Dudard Fri Mar 27, 2020 12:39 am

I guess we're going to find out about 5G. Trump Quietly Signs 5G Law Under Cover Of Coronavirus & The Next Taxpayer-Funded US Bail Out via The Last American Vagabond. https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2316&v=Op7exKaMDqw&feature=emb_logo

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Post  CausticSymmetry Fri Mar 27, 2020 3:28 am

Jdp710 wrote:I can say, many years ago, 99% of moths and flies are gone in my city.  Probably from cell phone towers my guess.  

We use to be able to go outside, turn on a light and moths would fly around the light.  Or drive your car and bugs gets smashed on the windshield.  Not anymore.  You have to get out of the city to see them now.

This time, with 5g, we can be controlled through our emotions.  Emotions rule the stock market and economy.

I've noticed this also.

I am nearly 51 years old now and so many people on this board may not be old enough to remember the rich insect life, bird, bee and other live activity of sounds that were once very present in everyday life.

No longer do I hear crickets or birds anywhere approaching the saturation levels of decades ago. And "everyone" knows that bees, bumblebees, June bugs are seriously depopulated.






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Post  cryo458 Sat Mar 28, 2020 3:01 am

Thank you CS, for this comprehensive protocol. So what's the recommended daily amount for liposomal Vitamin C?

CausticSymmetry wrote:Many people do not have access to IV (intravenous Vitamin C) and even many Lypopheric C's are difficult to find.

Did find this:

https://amzn.to/3div8pr

For regular, plain ascorbic acid (Vitamin C)

2 grams every 6 minutes until symptoms are gone.

Or 10 grams every 30 minutes until symptoms are gone.

200 mcg of Selenomethionine (not other forms)

https://amzn.to/2QFc5Mq

Vitamin D3 (varies), but vegans will not make enough (need cholesterol sources) or will need pre-activated form. Most people need about 5,000 IU.

Vitamin A (very antiviral)

25,000 IU for at least a month.

Magnesium: 400 mg daily (in malate or chloride form). Many people are deficient in magnesium, because modern agriculture often does not supply adequate magnesium in the soil, and food processing removes magnesium. It is an extremely important nutrient that is essential for hundreds of biochemical pathways. A blood test for magnesium cannot correctly diagnose a deficiency. A long-term deficiency of magnesium can build up in the body that may take 6 months to a year of higher than normal doses to replete.

A very cheap and highly beneficial adjunct for any acute infection, especially viral, is oral magnesium chloride. Amazingly, just as intravenous vitamin C has been shown to cure polio, an oral magnesium chloride regimen has been shown to do the same thing, as or even more effectively than the vitamin C

Nebulized hydrogen peroxide

Thomas E. Levy, MD: "Viral syndromes start or are strongly supported by ongoing viral replication in the naso- and oropharynx. When appropriate agents are nebulized (into a fine spray) and this viral presence is quickly eliminated, the rest of the body "mops up" quite nicely the rest of the viral presence. The worst viral infections are continually fed and sustained by the viral growth in the pharynx. Probably the best and most accessible agent to nebulize would be 3% hydrogen peroxide for 15 to 30 minutes several times daily.

Breathing Brown's Gas

Particularly because Brown’s Gas has already been endorsed for COVID-19 therapy by both the Chinese Government, EU organizations and UK Doctors.

Brown’s Gas (aka HydrOxy or HHO) inhalation has been confirmed helpful to treat the pneumonia caused by coronavirus. Hydrogen molecules do not directly target the new coronavirus, but can eliminate the inflammation caused by the virus, so as to play an auxiliary therapeutic role. The most superior feature is anti-inflammatory and no side effects. Anyone can use it. This is report from national health commission of China.

National Health Commission of the People's Republic of China says "Inhaling mixed 66.6% hydrogen and 33.3% oxygen is advised to treat the covid-19 virus pneumonia.”  As #1 on their treatment list.
Original Document
http://www.nhc.gov.cn/xcs/zhengcwj/202003/46c9294a7dfe4cef80dc7f5912eb1989.shtml

English Translation

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=zh-CN&u=https://baike.baidu.com/item/%25E6%2596%25B0%25E5%259E%258B%25E5%2586%25A0%25E7%258A%25B6%25E7%2597%2585%25E6%25AF%2592%25E8%2582%25BA%25E7%2582%258E%25E8%25AF%258A%25E7%2596%2597%25E6%2596%25B9%25E6%25A1%2588%25EF%25BC%2588%25E8%25AF%2595%25E8%25A1%258C%25E7%25AC%25AC%25E4%25B8%2583%25E7%2589%2588%25EF%25BC%2589&prev=search

Confirmation by the European Respiratory Society.
https://vimeo.com/395657458
Skip forward to 34 minutes to see the Chinese Doctor confirming they are using Brown's Gas (aka HydrOxy or HHO) to treat the COVID-19 and it's effectiveness (and see video of it being used).

Note that they don't call it 'Brown's Gas' in China, the say 66% (or 67%) hydrogen, 33% oxygen.

China is now doing a human study using Brown’s Gas to mitigate COVID-19.

More info:

https://hydrogen4health.com/ref/longevitypost/

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Post  NDW Sat Mar 28, 2020 8:18 pm

The Virginia Commonwealth Medical School has published some really good articles about the therapeutic value of vitamin C for sepsis, which is ultimately what would kill a COVID-19 patient, or at least play a major role.

https://www.mdpi.com/2072-6643/12/2/292

https://translational-medicine.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1479-5876-12-32
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