Scalp peeling with 20% glycolic acid: GREAT RESULTS...

I just put a little bit on one hand, and then use that hand to rub the 50% into my scalp, never had a problem of getting it in my eyes.

hoppipolla wrote:

Grub wrote:What the hell is going on in that video??

I'm guessing he's using one of those "hair system" things... like the ones that stick to your head with a strong adhesive, and maybe that stuff he squirted in is to loosen it?

I'm not totally sure.

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Yes , It shows a hair system user removing his partial piece. It´s not me!

I went down to this cool fabric shop in the city where I live and bought an actual long strip of soft, cotton towel! lol

It's so weird, it's actually a looooong strip of white, fluffy towel!

I figured the band I made before for scrunching the galea was not absorbent enough, so I went back to the same shop where they have HUGE reels of fabrics, and asked if they had anything highly absorbent like towel material. And they did!

So, I bought the thinnest strip of it they sold (which I think was 20cm, so still nicely thick) and it's mega long so I can just tie it behind my head.

Perfect!!

So, people, how´s the peeling going? Any results to report?

gonzalito wrote:So, people, how´s the peeling going? Any results to report?

I haven't started just yet, but I had a question.

Anyone else finding that they are getting more dead skin in OTHER parts of the body too, not just their scalp, since the hormonal imbalance (high tissue DHT)?

Like... I'm SURE I've got way, way more dead skin build up on my feet now. Also, I've been getting some itching, and I heard that people can have a fair amount of dead skin all over their bodies... seems to be more prominent in older people?

Perhaps it's not just the scalp that's affected by this...

Ok I just put some 20-30% on my scalp (I mixed it myself so I don't know the exact %) and damn it burns! Is this normal/ok? It really does burn... 

EDIT -- Phew it's finally decreasing now. That was really pretty strong/bad. I might dilute it more for next time. I think mine is about 25%. I wonder why it felt so unpleasant.

hoppipolla wrote:Ok I just put some 20-30% on my scalp (I mixed it myself so I don't know the exact %) and damn it burns! Is this normal/ok? It really does burn... 

EDIT -- Phew it's finally decreasing now. That was really pretty strong/bad. I might dilute it more for next time. I think mine is about 25%. I wonder why it felt so unpleasant.

hows the peel going for your long hair hoppi?

alphadelta wrote:

hoppipolla wrote:Ok I just put some 20-30% on my scalp (I mixed it myself so I don't know the exact %) and damn it burns! Is this normal/ok? It really does burn... 

EDIT -- Phew it's finally decreasing now. That was really pretty strong/bad. I might dilute it more for next time. I think mine is about 25%. I wonder why it felt so unpleasant.

hows the peel going for your long hair hoppi?

that was my first proper attempt!

it feels totally fine now, no burning or anything. I guess I'll wash my hair tomorrow. I'll do a lower concentration in future though I think or maybe use a bit less of it because DAMN that burned!

ugh... got it in my eye yet again when I lightly washed my face before going to bed (it must have been still in my hair but dried).

This is definitely much easier with short hair, I would imagine. However you'd probably need very short or totally shaven hair before you could easily use the cream and mostly get around this problem. Getting it in my eye is definitely the biggest problem I've run into so far ._.

Patent on Deep scalp peels.

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/20060241696.pdf

Patent refers to some good material posted on HS.

1. Pattern hair loss is often classified as reversible considering that hair follicles are present and cycling even in a bald scalp (Sinclair R D, Dawber R P. Androgenetic alopecia in men and women. Clin Dermatol. 2001 March-April; 19(2):167-78).

2. Minitaurized hair follciles of pattern alopecia can quickly regenerate once removed from human scalp and can grow as well as or better than terminal follicles from the same individual (Krajcik R A, Vogelman J H, Malloy V L, Orentreich N. Transplants from balding and hairy androgentic alopecia scalp regrow hair comparably well on immunodeficient mice. J Am Acad Dermatol. 2003 May; 48(5):752-9).

3. Many pseudo vallus follicles can be identified in the dermis, indicating that follicles are minitaurized rather than destroyed. Pseudo vallus hairs are in a presence of arrector pili muscle and angiofibrotic streamers as difference to regular vellus hairs. (Sinclair R D, Dawber R P. Androgenetic alopecia in men and women. Clin Dermatol. 2001 March-April; 19(2):167-78).

bobthebuilder wrote:Patent on Deep scalp peels.

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/20060241696.pdf

Patent refers to some good material posted on HS.

1. Pattern hair loss is often classified as reversible considering that hair follicles are present and cycling even in a bald scalp (Sinclair R D, Dawber R P. Androgenetic alopecia in men and women. Clin Dermatol. 2001 March-April; 19(2):167-78).

2. Minitaurized hair follciles of pattern alopecia can quickly regenerate once removed from human scalp and can grow as well as or better than terminal follicles from the same individual (Krajcik R A, Vogelman J H, Malloy V L, Orentreich N. Transplants from balding and hairy androgentic alopecia scalp regrow hair comparably well on immunodeficient mice. J Am Acad Dermatol. 2003 May; 48(5):752-9).

3. Many pseudo vallus follicles can be identified in the dermis, indicating that follicles are minitaurized rather than destroyed. Pseudo vallus hairs are in a presence of arrector pili muscle and angiofibrotic streamers as difference to regular vellus hairs. (Sinclair R D, Dawber R P. Androgenetic alopecia in men and women. Clin Dermatol. 2001 March-April; 19(2):167-78).

lol, I love the way people patent things as if they're the first one to think of them xD

I find it very hard to believe he was...

Aaaanywho erm, yeah I think it's very good stuff. I just need to find better ways to protect my eyes, or think of something smart.

I have very high hopes for this whole thing though

Hoppi,

Yes, the burning is normal... But it depends on every one´s tolerance... I did not get burning sensation while on glycolic... Now that I´m on TCA 25%, it DO burns the first 5 minutes...

Please share your thoughts when the dead skin begins to fall...

gonzalito -

Sure, cool man

I will not be doing these peels any more though with liquid, strong glycolic and long hair. The chances of getting it in your eyes is just too high for me. Am I really the only one who has had that problem? It's pretty much the ONLY problem I've had. I may invest in better eye protection.

That aside, you can also get things like T/Sal, a shampoo containing 3% salicylic acid, designed to clear away skin build-up. I have heard success stories (1 or 2) using that stuff, but they made no sense to me until I saw this thread.

I often seem to find a fair amount of oil (or maybe even infection-derived pus, like a spot) on my scalp when I absent-mindedly scratch it. This implies to me that there is a lot going on under the surface (the skin/keratin build-up), but then of course we all knew that anyway. Just nice to see actual evidence. This also explains why aggressive cleaning of the scalp seems to work.

Personally, I think we've hit it on the head here. It's just a shame that we can't yet safely reduce tissue DHT so that this skin/oil build-up stops at the root cause.

This is a great step though, no doubt

Mister E said in the other forum that the root causes was low SHBG and the remedy consist in a free fat diet. No oils no meat but starchy and vegetables diet that can restore up the SHBG levels. It was written several years ago so I don't know if he belives the same theory right now.

abetz85 wrote:Mister E said in the other forum that the root causes was low SHBG and the remedy consist in a free fat diet. No oils no meat but starchy and vegetables diet that can restore up the SHBG levels. It was written several years ago so I don't know if he belives the same theory  right now.

I don't even think he posts on hair loss anymore.

I saw that more recently he was on the Longecity forums.

aw man, my scalp appears to be "snowing" lol

This is a bit tricky too with longer hair because it just looks like you've got really bad dandruff! I am trying to pick it out and I washed my hair earlier, but it's definitely a problem.

I'll probably pick up some T/Sal (they may have changed the name) tomorrow as it will be milder and so the skin sheds will be less extreme but more frequent, is the idea.

Hm, all a bit different!

Hm, it seems that the highest percentage of salicylic acid put in a shampoo is 6% (T/Sal is 3%) :

http://www.sumlab.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/keralyt-shampoo-160ml-prescribing-information.pdf

and the highest for glycolic is about 10% :

http://www.amazon.com/Glycolix-Elite-Shampoo-Percent-oz/dp/B000CGD0CC

I am unsure if less is effective. Maybe.


I am sharing this for other people like me who might want a more gradual, maybe daily, exfoliation and shedding of skin, or who might want to do it with long hair, etc. I probably won't buy these products, I can probably just add glycolic or salicylic acid to my own shampoo, I would imagine.

My former hairline is coming back, in a slow but steady manner...

Awesome and congrats!!!! how many month on the peeling and massage? and what else are you doing?

abetz85 wrote:Awesome and congrats!!!! how many month on the peeling and massage? and what else are you doing?

Thnaks a lot, abestz85...

Massages for about one year now... Peeling for the last 2 months...

Oral supplementation: DIM, opti-l-zinc, vit. K2, magnesium...

gonzalito wrote:My former hairline is coming back, in a slow but steady manner...

It seems that using this technique we can regrow most hair lost, which is cool. It does explain a lot.

hoppipolla wrote:

gonzalito wrote:My former hairline is coming back, in a slow but steady manner...

It seems that using this technique we can regrow most hair lost, which is cool. It does explain a lot.

The thing that gives me hope is the thickness of the returning hairline... I could never achieve regrow with this kind of thickness before...

gonzalito wrote:

hoppipolla wrote:

gonzalito wrote:My former hairline is coming back, in a slow but steady manner...

It seems that using this technique we can regrow most hair lost, which is cool. It does explain a lot.

The thing that gives me hope is the thickness of the returning hairline... I could never achieve regrow with this kind of thickness before...

Gives me hope too.

I haven't lost enough hair for it to be THAT noticeable yet, but I really want my hair to look like it did before all this started. And it seems with this level of regrowth that could be achieved

I'll keep experimenting with how to make it work through long hair.

It's exciting to see things develop as I think this is the best technique we've had on IH... I think.

Hey there I'm just wandering if the glycolic acid has damaged or thins existing hair at all? And have you noticed regrowth in temples that you attribute to glycolic? Also what is your current glycolic regimen? Thx!

gonzalito wrote:

abetz85 wrote:Awesome and congrats!!!! how many month on the peeling and massage? and what else are you doing?

Thnaks a lot, abestz85...

Massages for about one year now... Peeling for the last 2 months...

Oral supplementation: DIM, opti-l-zinc, vit. K2, magnesium...

Thank you for the info!! Do you think that the major results came from the peeling?