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Post  teacup Sun Nov 21, 2010 5:30 pm


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Eur J Dermatol. 2010 Sep 7. [Epub ahead of print]
The influence of dietary patterns on acne vulgaris in Koreans.

Abstract

The association between acne and food has been evaluated with inconsistent results. We enrolled 783 patients with acne and 502 control subjects. For the patients with acne, blood tests for insulin, insulin-like growth factor-1 (IGF-1), insulin-like growth factor binding protein-3 (IGFBP-3), post prandial 2 hours blood glucose (PP2), and dehydroepiandrosterone sulphate (DHEAS) were performed. The acne patients were divided into an "aggravated by food" group (AF) and a "not aggravated by food" group (NAF). All participants were asked to fill out a questionnaire. The frequency of vegetables (yellow, green leafy, cruciferous) (P = .001) and fish (white flesh and green fish, blue tuna) ((P = .03) intake was significantly higher in the control group than in the acne group. Intake of instant noodles (P = .01), junk food (P = .002), carbonated drinks (P = .005), snacks (P = .001), processed cheeses (P = .04), pork (braised) (P = .02), pork (roast) (P < .001), chicken (fried) (P = .001), chicken (stewed) (P = .001), nuts (P = .002) and seaweed (P = .003) were significantly higher in the acne patients than in the controls. Intake of roast pork (P = .02), fried chicken (P < .02), and nuts (P = .03) was significantly higher in the AF than NAF. In addition, the regularity of inter-meal intervals (P < .001) and breakfast intake (P < .001) were significantly lower in the acne patients. IGF-1 and IGFBP-3 showed sexual differences.

This study also showed that a high glycemic load diet, dairy food intake, high fat diet, and iodine in Korean foods appear to play a role in acne exacerbation. In addition, irregular dietary patterns were found to aggravate acne.

Source: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20822969
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Post  scottyc33 Mon Nov 22, 2010 3:25 am

Yup.

Only an idiot dermatologist will tell you that diet doesn't have anything to do with acne.

The rest of us with common sense know better.


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Post  teacup Mon Nov 22, 2010 4:30 am

what's interesting is the study says iodine and fat cause acne
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Post  sdguy Mon Nov 22, 2010 6:18 am

teacup wrote:what's interesting is the study says iodine and fat cause acne

What kinds of fats? Healthy saturated fats or damaged vegetable oils? If you look at the foods listed in the acne group you see they mention fried chicken and junk food, which may mean french fries and potato chips. For dairy they mention processed cheese so I imagine they're talking about pasteurized milk too, not exactly the same thing as organic, full-fat, plain yogurt or raw milk. From what I can see the study only confirms that a whole foods diet is better for you than a processed foods diet.

This lead-in is important too "The association between acne and food has been evaluated with inconsistent results."

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Post  scottyc33 Mon Nov 22, 2010 7:48 am

I iodine connection has to do with bromide detox.

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Post  crincrin Mon Nov 22, 2010 8:44 am

scottyc33 wrote:I iodine connection has to do with bromide detox.

This is a common claim, but I'm not convinced that it's true. If you go over to curezone, the people there will claim that every side effect is attributable to bromide detox. How do we know that it's really bromide detox and not a side effect of the iodine?

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Post  TheFunkyStumpfighter Mon Nov 22, 2010 9:12 am

This study proves nothing, it is likely just a pure "get a grade on something" paper for a student somewhere. The study doesn't even present itself under the pretense that it is proving anything, nothing about it could even remotely be considered concrete even in the least. More specifically it does not state iodine causes acne, it draws a very loose correlation based on dietary factors that is neither proven or disproven, it's simply presented as an observation.

I think a lot of the less than desirable effects from taking iodine are attributed to bromide because that's what's probably being stirred up the most. Iodine is not like a multivitamin, or fish oil caps, or most of the supplements people here may or may not be taking. This stuff is going to displace and stir up all kinds of things in your system, and unless you're proactive in trapping and excreting these things, your body is going to try to do the job itself. Taking iodine but continuing to live unhealthy could very well cause you to continuously detox, this isn't just conjecture on curezone, the iodine will displace quite a few different things and your skin will be where they go if your liver and kidneys are already too taxed to handle the load.

I think this is more why people seem to feel like ass when taking iodine, you can't just take it while continuing to eat bromine heavy foods (like most breads), use flouride laced substances, and contacting mercury filled garbage, then expect the iodine to not continuously stir it up. Iodine is one of those things that you either dedicate the time and effort into taking it properly, or you're going to have a real crummy experience with it. That's my opinion anyway.

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Post  TexasMedicine Sun Mar 06, 2011 9:24 pm

scottyc33 wrote:Yup.

Only an idiot dermatologist will tell you that diet doesn't have anything to do with acne.

The rest of us with common sense know better.
I went to a well-respected nutritionist recently who looked at my diet and said "yep, it's fine, looks like your acne isn't caused by diet, but by hormones". Doesn't diet at least partly influence hormones? So disillusioned with modern medicine.

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Post  sky-walker Sun Mar 06, 2011 10:29 pm

I never had acne or any skin problem with iodine but i agree for bad diet .

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Post  theseeker Sun Mar 06, 2011 10:34 pm

I believe that iodine can cause acne but only has a detox symptom.

When i started with iodoral i all of a sudden got some breakouts, not many but they were those really big pimples that never seem to have a "head", they are always under the skin.

They went away though after about two weeks.

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Post  pancacke Sun Mar 06, 2011 10:46 pm

You can get rid of these pimples by putting some iodine on it Very Happy

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Post  tonyj Mon Mar 07, 2011 1:09 am

Maybe I misread the abstract, but is it a combination of these foods or is it just particular food that is causing is in the acne feed group. You should be eating low glycemic or have a low glycemic load in you diet anyway to reduce inflammation, but braised pork, fried chicken, are they looking at these foods only or what is used in addition to cook these foods. And then carbonated drinks, with real sugar or some type of sugar substitute?

What I come away from this abstract is that a questionnaire or survey tells us that diet may be implicated in acne and requires further study.
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