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Post  Delphine Sat Jul 16, 2022 8:42 am


That makes me sad, I love bunnies, animals in general.

I didn't know there was actually commercial bunny food, I thought they ate hay, carrots, greens.
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Post  CausticSymmetry Sat Jul 16, 2022 9:00 am

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That makes me sad, I love bunnies, animals in general.

I didn't know there was actually commercial bunny food, I thought they ate hay, carrots, greens.

For the moment, this is just a guess. Unless someone here knows.

Another guess would be some type of herbicide, pesticide, water runoff (common source infection).


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Post  CausticSymmetry Sat Jul 16, 2022 9:02 am

DISCUSSING THE VIRUS CHALLENGE WITH DR. MARK BAILEY- LIVE WEBINAR FROM JULY 15, 2022

https://www.bitchute.com/video/GbmQHju2xedZ/

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Post  CausticSymmetry Tue Jul 19, 2022 9:16 am

Dr. Stefan Lanka on the 3rd phase of the control experiments for SARS-CoV-2. During the 1st phase, Dr. Lanka showed that what virologists attribute to the presence of a pathogenic virus- the death of cells in test tube, can be achieved without the use of any infectious material, because the technique that they use is killing the cells on its own.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/EbJKn7uNk9mg

A very detailed and simple video that explains the first phase of control experiments you can find here:

https://rumble.com/vhx3l1-the-final-refutal-of-virology.html

In the second phase Dr. Lanka showed that what virologists call a “viral genetic material” in reality comes from a healthy human tissue.


More details about the 2nd phase you can find here:

https://odysee.com/@katie.su:7/kateinterviewsstefan3:a

In the 3rd phase,he will show that by applying the same technique that virologists use, using the nucleic acids that don't come from supposedly infectious material but from healthy human tissues,animals and plants, you can construct the genome of any “virus” you want.

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Post  Dudard Wed Jul 20, 2022 7:43 am

If viruses don't exist, then there is no immunity?

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Post  shaftless Wed Jul 20, 2022 8:15 am

Dudard wrote:If viruses don't exist, then there is no immunity?

Does antibody know the answer to this question? Wink

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Post  CausticSymmetry Wed Jul 20, 2022 9:57 am

Dudard wrote:If viruses don't exist, then there is no immunity?

100% bang on!

If we look at everything from a very basic level. "immunity" is based on gut tolerance and toxicity.

Here's an old article I wrote before I was willing to let the cat out of the bag on viruses.

https://www.immortalhair.org/apps/blog/show/1750501-aids-is-activated-by-nutrient-deprivation

Of course the medical literature is contaminated with religious beliefs.

One of the first people to scientifically document that HIV was a scam is Christl Meyer

https://www.africaresource.com/rasta/news-reports/biologist-christl-meyer-hiv-does-not-exist/

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http://christl-meyer-science.net/index.php/health-aids

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Post  Dudard Thu Jul 21, 2022 3:16 am

Robert Kennedy Jr claims HIV/AIDS was caused by a combination of recreational drugs and amyl nitrate. Will they cause a decline in selenium, glutamine, etc?

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Post  CausticSymmetry Thu Jul 21, 2022 5:51 am

Dudard wrote:Robert Kennedy Jr claims HIV/AIDS was caused by a combination of recreational drugs and amyl nitrate.  Will they cause a decline in selenium, glutamine, etc?

Yes, plus there are other causes also.

AIDS Syndrome Scenarios

1. The first recorded AIDSyndrome case in history, one of five reported by the CDC in June 1981, was a 33-year-old Los Angeles male. He was engaged in a lifestyle which we now consider high risk; but there are reasons for risk other than those defined by AIDSyndrome "viromania" (a word coined by microbiologist Peter Duesberg). For one thing, he admitted using "poppers," the aphrodisiac amyl nitrite (a poisonous secondary mycotoxin), then popular in homosexual bathhouses and discos. We are familiar with nitrites, used in tiny amounts as a preservative in meat. Sodium nitrite, a relatively weak member of the family, has been regulated for years as a potential carcinogen. It is well known that once in the body it is converted into carcinogenic nitrosamines (via its reaction with mycotoxins-not so well known).

Few mycotoxins, however, are more toxic than the organic nitrites (poppers), which react violently with almost anything. In water, they form the unstable nitrous acid, which destroys any biological molecule within reach. Nitrites and their breakdown products have long been known to scientists for their ability to mutate DNA, a point recently verified by direct experiment [3].

During the 1960s and '70s, poppers and other drugs were heavily abused, especially by sections of the male gay community. As a result, in 1969 prescription laws were tightened, and as usual, contaminated illegal products appeared on the streets adding insult to injury. In addition, impure products were marketed as "room odorizers." According to a former nitrite researcher with the CDC, doses from inhalation are likely to exceed those from eating preserved meats by a million times [4]. Yet this massive insult to the body and the drug abuse factor in general, including filthy street injectable, OTC drugs, and especially prescription drugs such as antibiotics, antifungal and other immunosuppressive chemicals, are not considered causative, in favor of a scarce, barely detectable, inactive, difficult-to-transmit retrovirus. However, HIV/ET would respond by saying that, if anything, the drug factor increased susceptibility to a virus that invaded him and destroyed his immune system.

Popper use has been associated with one "AIDS indicator"- Pneumocystis carinii pneumonia (PCP) [5] officially said to be caused by a protozoa. But the corresponding organism is not a protozoa; studies show the DNA sequencing of PCP to be identical to that of the Saccharomyces cerevisiae yeast [6]. PCP is responsible for 62% of all AID Syndrome mortality in America and Europe, candidiasis is responsible for 23%, and Cryptococcusneoformans is responsible for 12%. This means that yeast and fungus-the culminate microform symptoms of disease-contribute 97% of all AIDS-related mortality in those continents.

Thus, in the first recorded AIDSyndrome patient, a yeast infestation of the lung instigated pneumonia (symptom of over-acidification from fermentation processes), and oral thrush, a thick overgrowth of Candida albicans, choked him to death. He died, not from the ravages of a scapegoat retrovirus, but from an overdose of mycotoxins-nitrites-and the mycotoxins of yeast and fungal infestation-acetyl aldehyde, alcohol, and uric acid.

In Kenya, Africa, a 39-year-old woman from Zaire entered the hospital for treatment of her lung condition, which had begun with a relatively innocent cough and an unexpected drop in weight. Soon her coughs began to bring up blood, and tuberculosis was the diagnosis. But the patient had a strong allergic reaction to prescribed drugs, and her condition progressed from bad to worse, producing diarrhea, uncontrollable fever, swollen lymph nodes, and anemic blood disorders (all symptoms of a compromised biological terrain). The woman was then diagnosed with AIDSyndrome (but not I-AIDS-Iatrogenic-AIDS).

Contaminated blood supply, AZT and \/@accines other causes of the disease state.

Continued with link below.


https://medcraveonline.com/IJVV/second-thoughts-concerning-viruses-vaccines-and-the-hivaids-hypothesis---part-3-hivaids-and-the-monomorphic-disease-model.html

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Post  Dudard Thu Jul 21, 2022 1:26 pm

So selenium, and the amino acids cysteine, tryptophan, and glutamine end AIDS symptoms.  Do we know why Ivermectin, Hydroxy and monoclonals work?  What are the mechanisms at play?


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Post  CausticSymmetry Thu Jul 21, 2022 5:02 pm

Dudard wrote:So selenium, and the amino acids cysteine, tryptophan, and glutamine end AIDS symptoms.  Do we know why Ivermectin, Hydroxy and monoclonals work?  What are the mechanisms at play?


The first two are antiparastics. They prevent over acidification in the interstitium, such that happens with patients with coagulation defects, which is similar to an extreme heart or diabetic patient,  in severe metabolic acidosis (lactic acid) of the blood and the interstitial fluids (pH of the Blood 7.2 and the interstitial fluids 7.2. Ideal is a pH of 7.365 as determined by the 3D Bio-electro scan.

Ivermectin or HCQ will correct the acid balance in the interstitium. Without it, the body's attempt to solidify the increased lactic acid will form in order to protect the remaining healthy blood and body cells. Lactic acid in a major metabolic waste responsible for diabetes, heart disease and cancer.

As for Monoclonal antibodies, they are "anti-venom" or anti-coagulant effects.  Remdesivir, seems to be a pro-coagulant and kills 53% of who gets it.  So, if the patient has been given the jab (or the Remdesivir), Ivermectin or HCQ will act to save the patients life from either of the poisons.

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Post  Live forever Thu Jul 21, 2022 7:36 pm

Dudard wrote:If viruses don't exist, then there is no immunity?

Yes.

Just yesterday on the BBC UK there was a documentary title 'unvaccinated'
and you can see how the framing works once you operate from within the
mindset of 'there is a disease causing virus'.

Once you see through this, the whole dichotomy collapses.
It's like a hypnotic pendulum that just drops to the floor.
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Post  Dudard Thu Jul 21, 2022 8:29 pm

The idea that disease is caused by a toxin that overwhelms the body's defense mechanisms (have to change terminology was about to write immune system) is not much different than explaining that disease is caused by an inert flying particle that comes to life making unlimited versions of itself when it comes into contact with a living organism.

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Post  Live forever Thu Jul 21, 2022 8:32 pm

Dudard wrote:The idea that disease is caused by a toxin that overwhelms the body's defense mechanisms (have to change terminology was about to write immune system) is not much different than explaining that disease is caused by an inert flying particle that comes to life making unlimited versions of itself when it comes into contact with a living organism.  

How is it not different?
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Post  CausticSymmetry Fri Jul 22, 2022 12:50 am

To expand a little. The medical system in "1st world nations" is based on the practice of treating symptoms.

This idea is perfect for returning customers, in need of constant treatment maintenance for life, perfect for maximizing
profits.

The industry knows that a patient cured is a customer lost.

Quackines are perfect for deranging the immune system, provoking allergies for life that were never present before, plus
improve the odds of getting cancer by disrupting GcMAF (a vitamin D related activating factor). That makes our ability to clean up cellular garbage to be impaired.

On the flip side, symptoms are signs of the body's healing crisis, the attempt to heal (to expel toxins), via all channels of elimination.

So the "western model" has successfully duped the masses into believing they are "sick" by having symptoms and to suppress them, which means they never learn what real health is.

I'm sure we all know of people who bought into the standard system and they always seems to have medical issues, and have unwavering trust in the medical cartel.



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Post  Live forever Fri Jul 22, 2022 12:51 am

CausticSymmetry wrote:To expand a little. The medical system in "1st world nations" is based on the practice of treating symptoms.

This idea is perfect for returning customers, in need of constant treatment maintenance for life, perfect for maximizing
profits.  

The industry knows that a patient cured is a customer lost.

Quackines are perfect for deranging the immune system, provoking allergies for life that were never present before, plus
improve the odds of getting cancer by disrupting GcMAF (a vitamin D related activating factor). That makes our ability to clean up cellular garbage to be impaired.

On the flip side, symptoms are signs of the body's healing crisis, the attempt to heal (to expel toxins), via all channels of elimination.

So the "western model" has successfully duped the masses into believing they are "sick" by having symptoms and to suppress them, which means they never learn what real health is.

I'm sure we all know of people who bought into the standard system and they always seems to have medical issues, and have unwavering trust in the medical cartel.



Totally agree. It's symptom 'management' where the $£$£ is.

And the only way to keep that $£$£ flowing is to invert our relationship to real health.
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Post  shaftless Fri Jul 22, 2022 4:01 am

But sometimes our bodies are at a disadvantage. Allergens that appear to be completely non-toxic like pollen, pet dander, dust mites and even a healthy source of food like peanuts can evoke an allergic reaction. Immunoglobulin antibodies made by our bodies will cause cells to release certain chemicals that produce uncomfortable symptoms...and sometimes even death.

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Post  Dudard Fri Jul 22, 2022 7:36 am

I would guess many of us lost friends over the 2016 election, COVID, and Ukraine. Much of my interest has been about how we have become so divided. How do we explain that viruses don't exist to people without losing connection? Several years ago I accepted the idea of viruses. It wasn't easy to give that explanation up, and now I'm looking for concise ways to explain this idea. In the following video, Bret Weinstein interviews Mattias Desmet, who theorizes what has been happening and how we change it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkBQcIDto7s

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Post  CausticSymmetry Fri Jul 22, 2022 9:48 am

shaftless wrote:But sometimes our bodies are at a disadvantage. Allergens that appear to be completely non-toxic like pollen, pet dander, dust mites and even a healthy source of food like peanuts can evoke an allergic reaction. Immunoglobulin antibodies made by our bodies will cause cells to release certain chemicals that produce uncomfortable symptoms...and sometimes even death.

The trap here is that society has 'normalized' dis-ease, to the point where we request poisons to buffer the damage from the earlier poisons.

Ultimately, if we become our own ER physician, except for trauma....some of medicine is like a broken clock, it's right twice a day.

anaphylaxis, allergies are all treatable with out poisons. The allergies usually stem from 'traditional' quackcines. For example, egg and peanut allergies are from (drum roll), \/@ccines.

Anti-toxins, such as vitamin C, CDS and others.




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Post  Delphine Fri Jul 22, 2022 10:15 am

Now there's "monkeypox." I dunno why it is called that. More fun than a barrel full of monkeys?

Supposed to be more of an issue with gays. What do you make of it, CS?

https://www.nbcnews.com/nbc-out/out-health-and-wellness/lesions-headaches-debilitating-pain-gay-men-monkeypox-share-stories-rcna36789
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Post  CausticSymmetry Fri Jul 22, 2022 10:24 am

Dudard wrote:I would guess many of us lost friends over the 2016 election, COVID, and Ukraine.  Much of my interest has been about how we have become so divided.  How do we explain that viruses don't exist to people without losing connection? Several years ago I accepted the idea of viruses. It wasn't easy to give that explanation up, and now I'm looking for concise ways to explain this idea.  In the following video, Bret Weinstein interviews Mattias Desmet, who theorizes what has been happening and how we change it.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkBQcIDto7s

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Science is always changing, but when there's money/economies based on the lie, it's a die-hard scenario.

If often takes a century to change minds. Perhaps generations have to die off.

However, because of the Internet and now mass censorship, people are waking up quickly.

There is hope for the future.

Over 10 years ago, people were not ready for virus myth truths...but because of the fake pandemic that has changed.

There's a certain fulcrum point, when perhaps 10 to 11% will gather around a new concept and it will eventually overcome the mass formation psychosis.

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Post  CausticSymmetry Fri Jul 22, 2022 10:32 am

Delphine wrote:Now there's "monkeypox."  I dunno why it is called that.   More fun than a barrel full of monkeys?  

Supposed to be more of an issue with gays. What do you make of it, CS?

https://www.nbcnews.com/nbc-out/out-health-and-wellness/lesions-headaches-debilitating-pain-gay-men-monkeypox-share-stories-rcna36789

MoneyPox, is just lesions brought about from things have been poisoning us for centuries. It can also be poor connective tissue. For example, dollars to donuts (donuts are not cheap anymore), vegans will have a higher chance of "getting" the various forms of these legions, because that diet not rich in collagen-like food...."MoneyPox" is not different than herpes or something else, but can always arise form heavy metal toxicity or of course Quackcines.

Quackcine manufactures even listed it on the side-effects.

All that stated, where attention flows the money flows and really without the media blowing everything out of proportion it's a big nothing burger.

The number of "cases" is a drop in the ocean.

Meanwhile 53,000 deaths have been covered up (from Quackcine genocide)

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Post  Delphine Fri Jul 22, 2022 12:12 pm


Thanks for reply CS. Makes sense. Re this:

For example, dollars to donuts (donuts are not cheap anymore), vegans will have a higher chance of "getting" the various forms of these legions, because that diet not rich in collagen-like food.


Did you know the silica in diatomaceous earth builds collagen? https://rosehivesuperfoods.com/diatomaceous-earth-vegan-collagen/

Spirulina supposed to be good for that also, and vitamin C-rich fruits and vegs.

I am not vegan btw and I agree that unless one is mindful, it can be easy to miss out on important nutrients in a vegan diet.
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Post  shaftless Fri Jul 22, 2022 12:42 pm

" How do we explain that viruses don't exist to people without losing connection? Several years ago I accepted the idea of viruses. It wasn't easy to give that explanation up, and now I'm looking for concise ways to explain this idea. "

Conspiracy theories aside....a global pandemic popping up out of the blue doesn't help lol

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Post  CausticSymmetry Fri Jul 22, 2022 1:11 pm

shaftless wrote:" How do we explain that viruses don't exist to people without losing connection? Several years ago I accepted the idea of viruses. It wasn't easy to give that explanation up, and now I'm looking for concise ways to explain this idea. "

Conspiracy theories aside....a global pandemic popping up out of the blue doesn't help lol

Abbreviated version: John Enders thought for a moment in his 1954 paper that he found a way to finally 'prove' viruses, which was once just postulated. Because all previous experiments failed to produce any evidence.

However, he had reservations and stated them in his paper, because he wasn't certain if it was conditions of the experiment itself that caused the cytopathic effect (death of cells in the culture).

However, those reservations didn't matter when you're offered the Nobel Prize and loads of cha-ching $$$

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Everyone has been drowned in virus theory and few take the time or bother to look into it. Most people are satisfied that if there are anti-virals and all kinds of circumstantial 'evidence' that viruses are a thing, it seems downright nuts, probably to them to oppose a widespread belief system. So trying to convince these people is futile.  They may live a full life believing myths.

The truth doesn't mind being questioned. This is what real science is all about.

The Pl@ndemic was definitely a plan. At this point, it's going to take a slow drip of awakening to get the majority on board.....It took about 70 years to get a decent number of people to no longer fear saturated fat and cholesterol.

In 2004 on a another forum (regrowth) was talking about low carb....it wasn't received with open arms.

It's refreshing to see that most natural doctors fully embrace animal fats instead of shunning them in favor of seed oils.

Getting back to "conspiracies" Fauci and Bill Gates were warning us of pandemics years before the scam.

Then there's David Martin whose outlined this thing from a legal perspective.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/tpVEd69BohQx/

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