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Post  imprisoned-radical Fri Apr 10, 2020 7:21 am


I was one of those who use to tell people 20 years ago to beware of emf exposure such as limiting cell phone use. Tons of studies and enough people would even complain about dizziness and similar issues when exposed that many people believed. About 10 years ago, with smart phone adoption, the younger generation for some reason started to dismiss everything that was said before. And openly went on the attack. Similar to how atheists attack anybody who mention anything about god or religion. Especially christianity.

Eventually, everybody like myself, just like those who believed in god or religion just shut up. They just let the narrarative that emf exposure has badically no known health effects.

You fast forward to today, and you can see the affects. The older generations who grew up before cellphone towers were put up, our personalities were all formed. So we weren’t affected as much as the younger generations. Sure, the people were selfish but the millennials are absolutely completely different than anyone before them. Complete lack of empathy and they encourage others to not care about the world. They see the world different and act different and not in any positive way. You look at gen z and their minds are just gone. They have extreme depression, anxiety and drug use to cope with their messed up minds. You can see the pain in the young mens eyes. You can see the crazy in the young womens eyes. In fact, I’d go a step further that almost all females in any age range who uses these emf devices are mentally insane. On a sliding scale of course. Us gen x and older just shrug our shoulders. Not knowing what to say anymore.

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Post  Jdp710 Fri Apr 10, 2020 6:39 pm

Nuada wrote:

Yesterday I did some more search on 5g 60ghz and health effects and I couldn't find a study. Only claims that once the oyxgen molecules absorb 5g  @ 60ghz, will cause illness when breath in. Though no scientific evidence to back that up.

I don't know anything about RIFE frequencies, aside from the basic google research I did and some frequency videos I found on youtube.
Is there a RIFE 101 site that I can learn more about ? Also are those videos on yotube that emit a certain frequency capable of replicating what a rife machine can do ?

Again, me personally, not so worried about the frequency of 5g but having a cell phone tower on every street is what’s extremely worrisome.  This being a very well known and very problematic source of health problems. One reason is due to the extreme erratic nature of the frequencies being outputted from the cell phone towers.  Also called dirty electricity.  There is a good book on the subject called dirty electricity.  

Regarding 5g, millimeter wave therapy has been out for decades.  I almost bought this device 10 years ago and does have good reviews.  It outputs in the general area as 5g.  https://healthcaremarts.com/products/millimeter-wave-physiotherapy-instrument-for-tumor-cancer-diabetes

You’ll see the physiological benefits.  There is some info.  

The mechanisms by which MMWs are able to produce systemic whole-body effects from local exposures where the penetration is very shallow are not well understood. However, two major mechanisms seem to be involved: 1) stimulation of the nervous system, and 2) stimulation of the immune system [Ziskin, 2005]. In either case, the initial interaction with the MMWs occurs within the skin. Free nerve endings extending into the epidermis can be stimulated directly. Also, immunocompetent cells such as Langerhans cells and keratinocytes within the skin epidermis can also be stimulated directly. The neurons in the skin are thus either stimulated directly or indirectly by the release of cytokines from stimulated dermal cells. The resulting “millimeter wave signal” is transmitted through the cutaneous nerve through the dorsal root ganglion into the spinal cord [Radzievsky et

al., 2001]. At the first synapse in the spinal cord, there is a release of endogenous opioids.

The release of endogenous opioids occurs in at least two other spots in the brain. The subsequent release of endogenous opioids into the blood stream spreads these chemicals throughout the body, and certainly is adequate for explaining why pain relief can result from MMW exposures. The involvement of endogenous opioids in MMW therapy is verified by the fact that the beneficial effect of MMW therapy is completely abolished upon the administration of naloxone, a general opioid inhibitor [Radzievsky et al., 2000, 2008]. Opioids are also known to have wide-ranging effects on various systems in the body including the immune system. The transmission of the MMW signal through the cutaneous
. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3522782/#!po=55.7143
. Page 20.

Again use duckduckgo and not google for finding info.  Google suppresses info.  

Regarding the quote from above study, millimeter wave therapy/5g while it technically doesn’t penetrate the body it does alter the immune system and alter your natural feel good opiod chemicals..

But what happens when you overstimulate which is exactly like what will happen.  You’llget negative results.  You see,there is a phenomenon that occurs when you gopast a certain threshold.  Below this level in emf devices like Rife or LLLT, etc, you’ll get beneficial results.  But past a certain level, negative consequences are going to occur.  

In other words, 5g technology will eventually negatively affect your mood and immune system.So when you realize all the benefits of millimeter wavetherapy such as that device I linked to, you the have to understand that overuse of this technology, 5g tech will cause a problem.  

But again, I’m more concerned about all the towers that will be put up.  Where they will be on all the lamp posts, etc..  This link has some good info if still looking for more info https://www.saferemr.com/2017/08/5g-wireless-technology-millimeter-wave.html

A quote from the link

Cell antennas may be installed on public utility poles every 10-20 houses in urban areas.


Regarding listening to frequencies vs having actual electricity flow through the body that Rife does, some benefits can occur by just listening.  However, there are benefits to having dc electricity flow through the body.  Some will use plasma bulbs to output frequencies where you sit close to it and that also gives a different beneficial result over dc electricity.  But just listening to youtube frequwncies, some may get some benefits.  Me personally, I never did.[/quote]

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Post  Jdp710 Fri Apr 10, 2020 7:04 pm

I should also state their is a well known technique used by Dr Holt for those battling cancer.  One part of the treatment protocol was used for exposing a cancer patient to a specific frequency.  A frequency that actually stimulates cancer cells!  This frequency was 434 mhz. 5g starts at 600 mhz. Just a tiny bit below 5g. Just because it’s a tiny bit below 5g, doesn’t mean 600 mhz doesn’t cause similar reaction.

Dr Holt deliberately stimulated cancer cells and then would chemically block those cancer cells with a substance thereby stopping cancer progression.  But again, the point being there is a frequency within the 5g band that stimulates cancer cells.  

Don’t be alarmed too much as the frequency bands used in cell phones currently increase viral replication and makes them harder to be eradicated and we all haven’t died.  But, everyone’s health has been adversely affected.  But I would argue, physchologically is were the real damage has shown.  I think 5g will be psychologically devastating to the young especially.

Just thought I should point this out.

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Post  Jdp710 Fri Apr 10, 2020 7:17 pm

Further, some may have heard of trees dying when next to 5g stations.  Yes, I’m sure that’s true.  And again with the towers being put up on all the lamp posts where statiscally speaking, there will be one just a couple homes from where you live and work, here is an article that is decades old.  Probably pertains to the 5g towers.  How nobody would want to live near one.  

In short, electricians are known to die very early.  This article theorizes it’s because of the positive charge that builds up in their body.  This positive charge increases viral isdues and thus cancer.  Having a cell phone tower or what’s now going to occur a 5g tower next to your home, those people will develop a positive charge.  Just as electricians do.  Then they’ll die many years earlier than they should have.  Maybe even a decade or two.  So instead of living to 80, people who have lived with a 5g tower next to tgeir home may die at 70 or 60. Who knows.

Power Lines - not Radiation but Static Electricity Causes Diseases and Cancer

Peter Staheli
New science reveals, not radiation, but static electricity produced by power lines interferes with the bioelectrical life process causing illnesses cancer and premature aging.

New science about the real danger of power lines, which is not EMF- radiation, but static electricity that interferes with the nervous system and the bio-chemical life process of the human organism causing diseases.

Research has identified a harmful but ignored energy that is emitted from high tension power lines. Not radiation is the culprit, but an energy known as Positive Static Electricity. High-tension power lines are prolific producers of positive ions, and such positive ion clouds can cause diseases. Suffering diseases by living close to power lines is a known fact and wrongly radiation is blamed for it.

All over the world, people dispute the adverse side effects of overhead high-tension power lines. Individuals argue that electric radiation from power lines is to blame for diseases to those living near overhead power lines.

The electricity supplying authorities claim that radiation from power lines are not to blame for causing diseases. Research reveals that both parties are misguided in their views. Static electricity is the culprit for the experienced diseases.

High-tension power lines are essentially nothing else but man-made Chinooks or Foehns, which knowingly carry positive charged air that pesters peoples nervous system. Chinook (wind) or Foehn, strong wind which blows on the lee side of a mountain range, such as the Alps (where it is known as foehn), when stable air is made to flow over the range by a large-scale pressure gradient. The air is dry and warm at the foot of the mountains; the wind undergoes further heating and drying as it descends the slopes. Such dry air masses are positive charged and feared by people with nervous system is affected through it. Exactly the same characteristic have the positive ion clouds released by power lines. Also is the suffering the same.

How do overhead power lines produce positive ions? A high tension wire carries an alternating voltage and an alternating current. However, tension and current are never analogous, as there is always a phase shift between them. The tension amplitude is first, followed by the current amplitude. As a result of this phase shift the surface of the wire is statically positive charged 100 times per second, (USA 120 times a second). This periodic static charge on the surface of the wire milks electrons out of the air that surrounds the wire. The ionic wind that is produced by this ionization process, positive ions only are repelled. The static charge of the wire is only positive and but never negative as assumed. Measurements on the high tension power lines have revealed that the wire produces enormous numbers of positive ions. Even the electrical power industry is unaware of such an electrostatic occurrence, which causes considerable loss of electrical energy.  

As a means to scientifically confirm the above static electricity claim, a miniature three-phase system of 4,000 Volt was built and the following observations were made:

The negative probe of the multi-meter is connected to Earth. Starting from a distance of one meter the positive probe is slowly moved closer towards one live wire. What followed was a positive reading on the multi-meter, showing a DC current, which means an energetic electron flow towards the wire. The closer the positive probe is moved to the live wire, the stronger the electron flow towards the wire. This experiment has been carried out on all three wires and all three showed continuous electron flow on the multi-meter. Naturally, if the positive probe would touch one of the live wires, nature’s static electricity rules would stop and be replaced by the man-made ‘alternating current and closed circuit technology’. This, as you can imagine, would be fatal for the multi-meter and its holder. The above experiment shows and confirms the part that nature plays in the man-made high-tension installations. It is an absolute ‘direct current event’ and ‘open circuit’ matter. In a second experiment, a person sat at a distance of one meter from a miniature three-phase installation. The air moisture was 10% and the person was well insulated from Earth. Astoundingly the person carried a positive static charge of close to 4,000 Volt. It can only be left to imagination what the potential static charge of that person would be when living in close proximity of 400,000 Volt power lines.

Peter Staeheli's research has shown that a person lying in bed (asleep or resting) that is insulated from Earth (when the air is dry) always takes on a positive charge. Also the above experiments with the miniature test power lines and the overhead high tension power lines, people and matter always take on a positive electrical charge.

Life that is naturally Earthed and with it carrying the Bioelectric Null has nothing to fear about power lines. A farmer has nothing to fear if livestock is grazing under or in the proximity of high tension power lines. Livestock, animals or humans walking on agricultural land are constantly on contact with earth (electrically grounded) and therefore, are naturally and absolutely protected from any electro static influence from the atmosphere.

However, by living our modern civilized lifestyle off Earth, well insulated from Earth, such a person lives certainly without the bioelectric null and exposed to uncontrolled energy off the atmosphere.

Further experimenting shows how this bioelectric null can change to a lethal voltage. A motor vehicle parked under high tension power lines of 400,000 Volt has shown a considerable positive charge. We know that a motor vehicle is well insulated from Earth by its rubber tires. On days with low air moisture such a cars metal body carried up to 300,000 Volt positive charge. Surely not deadly at all, but a nice surprise for the one that opens the door of the car. An earthed gadget has been installed close to the car towards that every three minutes a discharge spark evolved. It can now only be left to the imagination what charges people can carry who live in close proximity to high tension power lines when for example, asleep in bed and well insulated from Earth in bed. Such person would certainly not carry the natural bioelectric null for a long time.

A complex investigation about high tension power lines was published in the ASEA-ATOM Engineering Journal POWER (November 1987). However, the whole investigation was centered on electromagnetic radiation. Static electricity was completely overlooked. There was also a mention of a car that is charged when stationed near high tension power lines and it is pictured in this Journal. However, the text makes out that this car is charged with alternating polarity. Wrong ! This is an assumption and not a measured fact! In our research, the charge measured on any insulated object near power lines showed only a positive charge and nothing else!

The report also offered a Russian contribution. The Russian observance touched on the real problem and supports Peter Staeheli's research. Also for the first time, there was a mention of nervous disorder. As quoted here from this Journal. In 1972, a well published report from Russia said, 'people working in high-voltage substations showed a number of symptoms mainly associated with fatigue'. Unfortunately, no one took the article serious enough to investigate what caused this so-called fatigue, as the Russian experiments were attributed to reasons other than electrically related reasons.

Peter Staeheli researched the conditions in high tension installations. A enclosed high tension substation with transformers that heat and with it dry up the surrounding air. As a result, the relative air moisture in such surroundings can be as low as 10%. The workmen wear well insulated footwear (rubber boots) to protect them from possible accidents. However, such footwear makes the workmen even more susceptible to a charge. Positive ion clouds are continuously produced by such a bare (non insulated) high tension means. A multi-meter indicates that the workmen always carry a positive charge on their body. If they touched an earthed protection railing, a spark discharged over and over again.

The bodies of the workmen never carried the bioelectric null while working in said high tension sub station. All of them have had experiences in matters headache or other nervous oddities.  All their experiences matched and supported the Russian observations.
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Post  MikeGore Sat Apr 18, 2020 2:44 am

If Pierre Jacques Antoine Béchamp was right and Louis Pasteur was wrong, than what are the remaining diseases that is spread through lack of hygiene?

If my body creates a virus(solvent) in response to it's detoxification process, and if I sneeze or cough on food and someone eats that or I cough on somebody's face, would I expel(the toxin my body created), and make that person sick?

Not trying to sound sarcastic, just trying to eliminate some of these questions that I am being asked by people who are highly skeptical. Germ theory seems to make more sense to people.

I get the feeling that the governments know that Béchamp was right, which is why they are caught not taking the precautions we are told to take. They are probably laughing behind closed doors.

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Post  CausticSymmetry Sat Apr 18, 2020 5:41 am

MikeGore wrote:If Pierre Jacques Antoine Béchamp was right and Louis Pasteur was wrong, than what are the remaining diseases that is spread through lack of hygiene?

If my body creates a virus(solvent) in response to it's detoxification process, and if I sneeze or cough on food and someone eats that or I cough on somebody's face,  would I expel(the toxin my body created), and make that person sick?

Not trying to sound sarcastic, just trying to eliminate some of these questions that I am being asked by people who are highly skeptical. Germ theory seems to make more sense to people.

I get the feeling that the governments know that Béchamp was right, which is why they are caught not taking the precautions we are told to take. They are probably laughing behind closed doors.

The number #1 reason for the belief of the germ theory is that Pasteur (unlike Béchamp), is that he worked for the government, plus it works as an ideal model for industry to sell us poisons (pHaramceuticals).  People are compelled by fear. Fear consumes people's psyche and does not allow them to think clearly.

Academia is more political than scientific. They were captured by industry decades ago in beginning the 1970's.

I can think of a dozen natural treatments to knock out Co-Fraud-19, so to me this is clearly a pre-planned agenda from the group who created this hysteria.

Viruses are just proteins strands of RNA and the stomach acid would quickly dissolve them.  Our innate system (nose, throat and mucosa) will deal with it readily. Note that vaccines or inject-able viruses are a different story, as they will cause harm.

Bacteria only become dangerous if/when they go through a pleomorphic change (based on their environment)) and/or they "eat" toxins and produce (excrete) a waste product called bacterial endoxtoxins. So, it's a byproduct of toxins.

Great interview here by the way on the current Co-Fraud-19

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Post  NDW Sat Apr 18, 2020 8:50 pm

MikeGore wrote:If Pierre Jacques Antoine Béchamp was right and Louis Pasteur was wrong, than what are the remaining diseases that is spread through lack of hygiene?

If my body creates a virus(solvent) in response to it's detoxification process, and if I sneeze or cough on food and someone eats that or I cough on somebody's face,  would I expel(the toxin my body created), and make that person sick?

Not trying to sound sarcastic, just trying to eliminate some of these questions that I am being asked by people who are highly skeptical. Germ theory seems to make more sense to people.

I get the feeling that the governments know that Béchamp was right, which is why they are caught not taking the precautions we are told to take. They are probably laughing behind closed doors.

No one can make the claim that viruses are simply solvents because they are defined as being nucleic acids encapsulated in a protein shell. You can make the argument that what is causing illness such as COVID-19 are X,Y, or Z, rather than a virus, but a virus will always be nuceiic acids encapsulated in a protein shell, because that is how they are defined.

Second, the only solvent inside a human body is water, once again, by definition. Saying that a bodily virus is really a solvent is saying that it is water.

Third, doctors use real viruses (nucleic acids encapsulated in protein shell) to deliver DNA to patients with lethal mutations or deletions. It's called gene therapy. I'm not saying gene therapy is a great treatment, as it has caused cancer and death, but it has also cured genetic defects. Are you willing to go to these doctors and tell them that the viruses they are using to treat disease are nothing but solvent?

I'm all for good conspiracy theories, but this one is really bad. Seems like a straw-man because it's so easily trashed.
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Post  CausticSymmetry Sun Apr 19, 2020 3:14 am

Not a conspiracy theory. There's more evidence that viruses are a reaction to a toxin, rather than the cause of a disease.
The exception is injected viruses. There is still many unanswered questions. Those color diagrams are all CGI, an electron microscope is black and white.

Using the solvent analogy is an apt description and it makes more sense than what is being widely taught. So far, no study exists to prove that viruses can create an infection by air. Not a single mechanistic study. However, the reverse has been proven. All efforts to prove causation have failed.

Gene therapy has been proven fruitless. Most physicians have an outdated understanding of the immune system. It is akin to 1800's mythology.

Measles Virus Does Not Exist

German biologist Dr. Stefan Lanka initially offered 100,000 euros to anyone who could provide scientific evidence that the measles virus existed. He had initially been ordered to pay up in court after Doctor David Bardens attempted to claim the prize after providing the biologist with a study that had been published in a medical journal. At that time, a Judge in the regional court in Ravensburg, South Germany, ruled in the favor of Dr. Bardens in a controversial decision claiming the criteria for evidence had been met.

The First Civil Senate of the BGH confirmed a judgment by the Higher Regional Court of Stuttgart (OLG) on in February 2016. The sum of 100,000 euros which was offered as a reward for scientific proof of the existence of the alleged measles virus did have to be paid to the plaintiff. The plaintiff also was ordered to bear all procedural costs.

Five experts have been involved in the case and presented the results of scientific studies. All five experts, including Prof. Dr. Dr. Andreas Podbielski who had been appointed by the OLG Stuttgart as the preceding court, have consistently found that none of the six publications which have been introduced to the trial, contains scientific proof of the existence of the alleged measles virus.

In the trial, the results of research into so-called genetic fingerprints of alleged measles virus have been introduced. Two recognized laboratories, including the world’s largest and leading genetic Institute, arrived at exactly the same results independently.The results prove that the authors of the six publications in the measles virus case were wrong, and as a direct result all measles virologists are still wrong today: They have misinterpreted ordinary constituents of cells as part of the suspected measles virus.

Because of this error, during decades of consensus building process, normal cell constituents were mentally assembled into a model of a measles virus. To this day, an actual structure that corresponds to this model has been found neither in a human, nor in an animal. With the results of the genetic tests, all thesis of existence of measles virus has been scientifically disproved.

The authors of the six publications and all other persons involved, did not realize the error because they violated the fundamental scientific duty, which is the need to work “lege artis”, i.e. in accordance with internationally defined rules and best practice of science. They did not carry out any control experiments. Control experiments would have protected authors and mankind from this momentous error. This error became the basis of belief in the existence of any disease-causing viruses. The expert appointed by the court, Prof. Dr. Dr. Podbielski, answering to the relevant question by the court, as per page 7 of the protocol explicitly confirmed that the authors did not conduct any control experiments.

The OLG Stuttgart overturned the judgment of the court of first instance, dismissed the action and referred, inter alia, to the central message of Prof. Podbielski with respect to the six publications. The plaintiff filed an appeal against the judgment of the OLG to the Supreme Court. As reason he stated his subjective, yet factually false perception of the trial sequence at the court in Stuttgart, and the assertion that our naming of facts about measles posed a threat to public health. The plaintiff’s position was rejected by the Supreme Court in plain words. Thus, the Supreme Court confirmed the judgment of the OLG Stuttgart from February 16, 2016.

The six publications submitted in the trial are the main relevant publications on the subject of “measles virus.” Since further to these six publications there not any other publications which would attempt by scientific methods to prove the existence of the measles virus, the Supreme Court judgment in the measles virus trial and the results of the genetic tests have consequences: Any national and international statements on the alleged measles virus, the infectivity of measles, and on the benefit and safety of vaccination against measles, are since then of no scientific character and have thus been deprived of their legal basis.

Upon inquiries which had been triggered by the measles virus contest, the head of the National Reference Institute for Measles at the Robert Koch Institute (RKI), Prof. Dr. Annette Mankertz, admitted an important fact. This admission may explain the increased rate of vaccination-induced disabilities, namely of vaccination against measles, and why and how specifically this kind of vaccination seems to increasingly trigger autism.

Prof. Mankertz has admitted that the “measles virus” contains typical cell’s natural components (ribosomes, the protein factories of the cell). Since the vaccination against measles contains whole “whole measles virus”, this vaccine contains cell’s own structures. This explains why vaccination against measles causes frequent and more severe allergies and autoimmune reactions than other types of vaccination. The court expert Prof. Podbielski stated on several occasions that by the assertion of the RKI with regard to ribosomes in the measles virus, the thesis of existence of measles virus has been falsified.

In the trial it was also put on record that the highest German scientific authority in the field of infectious diseases, the RKI, contrary to its legal remit as per 4 Infection Protection Act (IfSG), has failed to create tests for alleged measles virus and to publish these. The RKI claims that it made internal studies on measles virus, however refuses to hand over or publish the results.

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Post  Jdp710 Sun Apr 19, 2020 7:38 am

Fwiw, did tons of research in this area and believe the greatest spiritual people have it right.  

Fast forward to 1:00 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nxIuMZcblYw

That what affects some on onr side of the globe can end up affecting another on the other side.  Quantum entanglement, Einstein’s spooky at a distance talks about this sorta.

Similar to how empathatic people can come down with same illnesses as the person they care about.  Even same emotional problems.

It’s been shown that you can have a virus in one sealed box.  Place another sealed box next to it.  Box made of quartz which allows light to travel to other box without filtering the spectrum.  The other box develops same virus.  Something like that.

Further, it’s been shown that if you place people side by side to each other they will not get infected by a contagious flu.  But front to back or back to back or front to front or whatever you do contract.  

Think it is alllike that youtube clipI posted.

Side unrelated note, I further believe as others that certain pathogens require certain toxins or metals to replicate.  If you don’t have toxin or metal you don’t get pathogen.  Spanish flu for instance was tin from recent introduced tin cans.  There is also certain emotions and mental thinking that creates certain pathogens that many great spiritual people have talked about.  Kinda like how some have gone to leprosy colonies like Jesus being in contact with one and they don’t contract highly contagious leprosy like a normal person does.

The ancients use to talk about these plaques and illness being from human sins.  In a sense I believe it.  Cut out harmful thoughts and emotions does very good for preventing illnesses and probably contagious ailments in many cases.

Last decade I’ve never seen so much hatred, anger and lack of compassion for others and I was born in late 70’s.  It was only a matter of time till something happened that eventually puts people back in balance.

So I personally believe in a variation of CS’s info regarding current belief of germ theory not being correct.

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Post  CausticSymmetry Sun Apr 19, 2020 8:05 am

Here's another video:

https://youtu.be/rp4wXSku8Ik

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Post  MikeGore Mon Apr 20, 2020 1:32 am

CausticSymmetry, what we have learned from you and through this forum is extremely valuable.

Considering the pandemic situation we are in, I really feel like a war is being raged at the moment.

I wish we could spread more about the truth regarding viruses. At least an initiative should be opened to thoroughly study the matter and change paradigms if necessary. Ofcourse this isn't going to happen since the current paradigm benefits those in power.

I don't know what you guys thoughts are about President Trump, but it does seem to me that he is one of the good guys.

I think President Trump knows that these vaccines might be harmful which is why he is pushing for Hydroxychloroquine. If that works we won't need to take the vaccine. Also Trump had at one point, Ronald F. Kennedy Jr. chair Trump’s vaccine safety panel.

But knowing that vaccines are potentially harmful is one thing, reviewing the current viral theory and changing paradigms is another. It has the potential to completely alter perspectives on vaccines.

I don't know if you guys know but recently there was a letter written to POTUS. This is the link:
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/armstrongeconomics101/opinion/letter-to-president-trump-send-it-everywhere-you-can/

Also there is a video about this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3u5aiXRUow

And just a few days after Trump received the letter, he announced plans to opening up the country by 1st of May. Might be a coincidence, perhaps he already knew this via his own advisers or the letter really made a difference.

When you think about the White House, we tend to think that they have the best information and advisers at their disposal. And if they don't take the right action, it is because there is an agenda not to do so. Which would mean writing to the President would be kinda pointless because they know the truth and refuse to act. We already know who Anthony Fauci is, which means the President is already receiving "advice" which harms the public. And we have seen they are disagreeing with each other.

That said, the letter written to the President gives me hope because like I said, he announced plans to reopen the country right after.

This makes me think, would it not be a good idea, for us to write a letter to POTUS, explaining to him this alternative viral theory, which is supported by the likes of Pierre Jacques Antoine Béchamp, Gaston Naessens, Stefan Lanka, Dawn Lester & David Parker, Royal Raymond Rife and Arthur Firstenberg and many others. There are many brilliant minds on this forum. I see how eloquently and scientifically the posts are written and also excerpts from many respected medical papers are referrenced.

I see this forum as a force for good. I don't want to put any pressure on anyone, but perhaps someone(or a group effort) well versed in this can write a letter to POTUS, explaining to him, the insanity of this pandemic, when in fact, IT MIGHT NOT EVEN BE TRANSMISSIBLE/INFECTIOUS AT ALL.

There was also YouTube video of a doctor working in ICU saying that we might need to change our paradigm relating to treating this disease. And we must definitely change how infectious diseases are viewed. I would love to hear President Trump create an initiative to review and study the viral theory.

The Pandemic card has been the single most powerful card that TPTB can use, to push us all into a World Government. It has to stop. And it won't stop until the father of vaccines Louis Pasteur's Germ Theory is destroyed to pieces.

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Post  CausticSymmetry Mon Apr 20, 2020 7:52 am

MikeGore - I hope he gets the message. I find it really almost hard to believe when various pro-government and establishment types vouch for extending quarantines or lockdowns.

Even more astonishing is that Bill Gates, a non-scientist with a messianic-like view on vaccines. No one elected him and yet he's in the driver's seat of the World Hoax Organization and probably to a lesser extent, the Centers for Disease Creation.

Then we've got Dr. Anthony Fauci, who is deep state and he practically, single-handily created the HIV-Aids epidemic.

Check out this short 7-minute video on that.

https://youtu.be/_U-Hx486psM

Also there is a current, pending investigation into Anthony Faudi sending a large sum of money to China to study chimeric viruses. A chimera virus is defined by the Center for Veterinary Biologics as a "new hybrid microorganism created by joining nucleic acid fragments from two or more different microorganisms in which each of at least two of the fragments contain essential genes. In other words, animal viruses "need" some help, to make them more virulent.

Even if acquiring airborne viruses had a real risk (I think it needs to be injected), Hydroxychloroquine with zinc has already been shown to be nearly 100% effective.

I had some hope when Trump was working with RFK on the vaccine safety commission, only for it to be stopped abruptly without any official explanation. I heard two things which may or may not be the real reasons. (1) The American Academy of Pediatrics sent Trump a 'study' that "proved" that vaccines are safe (note that was a garbage piece).  Seems to me that politicians have no ability to interpret science and even worse, deep state scientists are corrupt to the core. (2) Bill Gates can be seen on video, speaking about what he said to Trump when asked the question about the Vaccine Safety Commission, to look into the "bad effects" of vaccines.

Gates responded: "Don't do that," Gates recalled. "And I said 'No, that's a dead end, that would be a bad thing, don't do that."

Obviously it's not just Gates, but Anthony Fauci and the rest of the deep state, as they are all in bed with several companies in the pipeline. There's a lot of videos on this subject alone, so it's clear to me that there is an effort to push vaccines as the "only" solution to return to 'normal.'

Then there's event 201 (that goes deeper down the rabbit hole), this suggests this plan-demic was rehearsed.  Plus there's video of Fauci saying 2017 saying there will be a future pandemic. How would he know that?

This is an ultimate "divide and conquer" phenomenon whether they planned this or not. I drove to LA yesterday and some bum screamed at me for not wearing a mask.

Hopefully we can spread this link below around:

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/armstrongeconomics101/opinion/letter-to-president-trump-send-it-everywhere-you-can/

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Post  Jdp710 Mon Apr 20, 2020 8:33 am

FWIW, I haven’t had a vaccine in like 16 years.  

City I lived in was “extreme” heavily chemtrailed jan and feb.  got in your eyes and everyone would mildly cough.  Everyone in this city seemed to have very mild cold in jan and feb.

Got sick about 8 or so days ago.  I own a respirator with wraparound glasses, gloves, took clothes off, etc..   The respirator filter does filter coronavirus particle size!  No way I got sick in public buying groceries.  Impossible.

I just finished sleeping 15 hours still very very tired.  It’s like what I do, this sickness is sheltered in blood or whatever and comes right back.  Over and over.  We aren’t sick like flu anymore 95%+ of time but extreme tired.  

My family member who previously had a massive stroke many years ago is much more tired.  Can’t walk much.  I have to push her around in a chair and pick her up to put her on the toilet and pull up her pants, etc..  That’s the extreme tired.  

That’s how bad of extreme tired this makes us!  I have no idea how anyone could drive to a place to get tested if they think they are sick.  Impossible.  All I can do is sit.  Can hardly cook.  

I say probably chemtrailed.  Swine flu 10 years ago was at least partly known to have been.  This bad flu Probably stays llatent in people for probably 1+ months before a trigger.  Our trigger was extreme cold weather that came in.  Rain, snow, etc..

I did tons of reasearch of what really happened and I’m almost certain this was all for economic reasons.  The globe is mostly turning it’s back on China.  To no longer trade with them or minimize trade.  To do that this bad flu was the excuse.  It was this or China would rise to be nazi germany 10-30 years from now. An even bigger problem than this economic collapse we are going through.

I’m going to quit posting for a bit.

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Post  Jdp710 Mon Apr 20, 2020 8:48 am

CausticSymmetry wrote:

This is an ultimate "divide and conquer" phenomenon whether they planned this or not. I drove to LA yesterday and some bum screamed at me for not wearing a mask.

Late feb early march, tons of reports of people online throughout US that they were screamed at for wearing a mask.  Saying they were part of the problem.  Causing hysteria, people hoarding food. People being kicked out of stores for wearing a mask. Employers telling employees, grocery store employees they were not allowed to wear a mask.  

Funny how things change.  Many aren’t sheep anymore but robots.  Repeating what they hear.

Regarding Trump, he has to play both sides. He’s very knowledgeable regarding conspiracy theories. Before elected, he had tweets talking about link between autism and vaccines. Some thought he was thinking about his son baron trump who some have speculated.

But again, everything with trump he has his foot in both sides otherwise he would be JFK’d.

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Post  CausticSymmetry Tue Apr 21, 2020 3:35 am

A few additional things to ponder:

Is it possible that there is both an atmospheric and climatic influence from incoming solar radiation from a comet?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamiecartereurope/2020/03/19/is-this-the-naked-eye-comet-weve-been-waiting-for-comet-atlas-is-getting-brighter/#6a4f11194514

The persistent contrail (geoengineering) theory also makes sense, because of the chemical spew.

Then there's 5G, the original thought behind the expected 'pandemic' and we can consider that many of
the epicenters of the outbreaks were often found in 5G concentrated areas, such as in the town of Kista in February (Sweden)

New York, Israel, Italy, etc.

There's been a lot of effort from mainstream to "debunk" these dangers, including various Youtube videos making satire videos to downplay the dangers. However, that to me indicates that maybe they are hiding something. And if they throw in a sentiment about "Anti-Vaxxers" then you know you're dealing with hive minded people who cannot think long enough to research beyond 5 second talking points.

Certainly not all 5G is the same, however if we use a Trifield meter, we can see if the band is in the mid to high band frequencies (like 40 Ghz or higher) which is where oxygen and hemoglobin can separate and also knock out Vitamin D synthesis.

Pro 5G pundits will argue that the power is too low to hurt us, such as comparing 1 watt vs 700 watt microwave. But what they fail to disclose is that high frequency doesn't require a lot of power to cause harm.

If I were to so much as place my 4G cellular phone to my head, I will fear acute pain, and if I simply hold my smart phone my hand, I can feel the radiation.

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Post  mkl617 Tue Apr 21, 2020 2:40 pm

After looking at the medical industry and their frauds and crimes with viruses and studying vitamins spectacular (too good to be true) history, I am more inclined to think that germ theory is a complete BS. Even if it is true vitamin C and other antioxidants seem to kill?(remove) these toxins so easily.
I am currently studying Antoine Bechamp's Terrain Theory more. It made no sense to me a few years ago because I did not care or have enough knowledge about vitamins.

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Post  MikeGore Wed Apr 22, 2020 9:26 am

How does the so called strains fit into this whole plandemic hoax?

When the coronavirus test is being done (which is not a Covid-19 test), are they actually detecting the exosome? But they don't know its an exomsome?

Are they absolutely lying about detecting new strains of the virus, or what is it they are detecting? Different parts of the toxin the body created?

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Post  Nuada Wed Apr 22, 2020 10:53 am

MikeGore wrote:How does the so called strains fit into this whole plandemic hoax?

When the coronavirus test is being done (which is not a Covid-19 test), are they actually detecting the exosome? But they don't know its an exomsome?

Are they absolutely lying about detecting new strains of the virus, or what is it they are detecting? Different parts of the toxin the body created?

Could be the case.
David Icke said in an interview that they just take the genetic material, not the virus and call it Covid-19. Might be referring to the exosomes.

At this point I'm not really worried about he medical aspect of the pandemic(not saying it isn't dangerous) but more about the socioeconomic aspect. Forcing Vaccines on people and implementing a "chip/mark of the beast" to track who has the vaccine and who doesn't. That's the scary part.

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Post  CausticSymmetry Wed Apr 22, 2020 5:51 pm

More on the viruses:

https://youtu.be/7lLnqfdzv-w

https://theinfectiousmyth.com/

Anyone care to guess the "end game" for the plan-demic authors?

Possible "reset" for the petro dollar?

Enhancing WHO/CDC Bill Gates connected companies?


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Post  MikeGore Mon May 04, 2020 7:10 am

Great videos CS. Thanks.

I was wondering one thing. So I understand, that the viruses are not contagious because in reality they are exosomes created by the body, and the only way to get viruses is if we are injected.

This makes me ask the question. Conventional viruses are viewed as something that replicates much like an organism. I don't think the exosomes would multiply the same way. But so what are the viruses that are created in Bioweapon labs? Are they actually organisms that multiply in the conventional sense? And these viruses created in labs, if injected, will they be transmissible?

Because if that is the case, once the unnecessary Coronavirus vaccine is injected to people, than it seems we will have a real reason to fear. A real reason to wear face masks, and unfortunately, will that not mean that the outdated false Germ Theory by Lous Pasteur, will be applicable in this case(since their will be a real virus injected to people)? So basically body created exosomes are not contagious but lab created viruses are contagious? It might be just semantics at this point what the lab created "virus" should be called.

Any clarification will be appreciated. Thanks.

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Post  NDW Mon May 04, 2020 7:20 am

This is what happens when you don't stick to actual rigorous definitions. You end up at a point where viruses both exist and don't exist at the same time lol!
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Post  CausticSymmetry Tue May 05, 2020 2:53 pm

NDW wrote:This is what happens when you don't stick to actual rigorous definitions. You end up at a point where viruses both exist and don't exist at the same time  lol!

Exosomes have been discovered approximately 30 years ago. Some of their effects are still being elucidated.
So in principle there is also therapies using exosomes, even for hair loss.  For example exosomes are involved in cell communication, and hair follicle exosomes have been shown to promote hair growth stages. Exosomes transport micro RNA (miRNA) and mRNA or transcription factors to nearby cells, thereby influencing the function of these cells.

With respect to retroviruses, those are usually of animal origin, and when injected, they are usually detrimental for a variety of reasons. When we get exposed to radiation sources, the pores of cells upon up, allowing the integration of retroviruses.  

A lot of confusion about viruses is several fold, the origin of the word virus comes from either Greek and/or Latin for poison. It was presumed long before the electron microscope that caused illness.  But with an electron microscope, we can only see a black and white images in still motion.

When we watch the propaganda box (Tell-Lie-Vision), we are fed noxious non-scientific hyperbole from people on the receiving end of bogus drugs and vaccines. They show fancy, colorful CGI photos of viruses to create the illusion that they are real. And they will use the terms genetic sequencing to sound even more "official" but in stark reality, testing for Co-Fraud-19 is nothing more than capturing common genetic material we already have in our bodies.

All physicians are taught the antiquated theories about viruses, without any proof they are what they are presumed to be.  

I first starting questioning viruses quite some time ago, because when myself and others treated people with so-called viral diseases with antioxidant therapies, plus selenium, lipoic acid acid, Vitamin C, Glutathione, etc. It seemed more logical at the time and still is that a viral condition is nothing more than an inflammatory condition caused by a toxin.

What does glutathione do?  It binds to toxins for conjugation and excretion. When we rid the toxin, the inflammation goes away. As for exosomes, they is a release or shedding of material as a result of a toxin. It is therefore further prevented by treating toxins. What do toxins do? They deplete electrons. All disease processes are the result of electron depletion.

Several years ago on this forum, I provided sometimes radical examples of Hepatitis C. For example cases of some intrauterine devices (IUDs) creating a "transient form" of hepatitis C, in other words, having a viral load in the liver, that is credited with the disease of hepatitis C, yet when the IUD is removed, the viral load disappears and so does the Hep C.


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Post  Nuada Wed May 06, 2020 10:45 pm

CausticSymmetry wrote:
NDW wrote:This is what happens when you don't stick to actual rigorous definitions. You end up at a point where viruses both exist and don't exist at the same time  lol!

Exosomes have been discovered approximately 30 years ago. Some of their effects are still being elucidated.
So in principle there is also therapies using exosomes, even for hair loss.  For example exosomes are involved in cell communication, and hair follicle exosomes have been shown to promote hair growth stages. Exosomes transport micro RNA (miRNA) and mRNA or transcription factors to nearby cells, thereby influencing the function of these cells.

With respect to retroviruses, those are usually of animal origin, and when injected, they are usually detrimental for a variety of reasons. When we get exposed to radiation sources, the pores of cells upon up, allowing the integration of retroviruses.  

A lot of confusion about viruses is several fold, the origin of the word virus comes from either Greek and/or Latin for poison. It was presumed long before the electron microscope that caused illness.  But with an electron microscope, we can only see a black and white images in still motion.

When we watch the propaganda box (Tell-Lie-Vision), we are fed noxious non-scientific hyperbole from people on the receiving end of bogus drugs and vaccines. They show fancy, colorful CGI photos of viruses to create the illusion that they are real. And they will use the terms genetic sequencing to sound even more "official" but in stark reality, testing for Co-Fraud-19 is nothing more than capturing common genetic material we already have in our bodies.

All physicians are taught the antiquated theories about viruses, without any proof they are what they are presumed to be.  

I first starting questioning viruses quite some time ago, because when myself and others treated people with so-called viral diseases with antioxidant therapies, plus selenium, lipoic acid acid, Vitamin C, Glutathione, etc. It seemed more logical at the time and still is that a viral condition is nothing more than an inflammatory condition caused by a toxin.

What does glutathione do?  It binds to toxins for conjugation and excretion. When we rid the toxin, the inflammation goes away. As for exosomes, they is a release or shedding of material as a result of a toxin. It is therefore further prevented by treating toxins. What do toxins do? They deplete electrons. All disease processes are the result of electron depletion.

Several years ago on this forum, I provided sometimes radical examples of Hepatitis C. For example cases of some intrauterine devices (IUDs) creating a "transient form" of hepatitis C, in other words, having a viral load in the liver, that is credited with the disease of hepatitis C, yet when the IUD is removed, the viral load disappears and so does the Hep C.


Some doctors on youtube keep saying that Exosomes and viruses are one and the same. If it is so clear cut then why doesn't anyone write a scientific study and validate it with an experiment ?
Are they just "assuming?"

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Post  CausticSymmetry Thu May 07, 2020 9:50 am

Nuada - Yes, exactly. Viruses and/or exosomes are so small, and there are still mysteries on all of their mechanisms.

Changing the paradigm would be bad for their business.

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Post  MikeGore Mon May 11, 2020 8:49 am

From what you say it definitely is apparant that, being very healthy is the best way to protect ourselves from this so called "disease". And it's annoying to see YouTube, Facebook banning videos for talking about Vitamin C usage for coronavirus, which has been proven effective against Covid-19. Really these tyrants just piss me off. If the truth, health and well-being of society is what they really cared about, there should be no reason to ban such videos. But when their evil agenda is jeopardized by the truth, the truth becomes offensive and must be dealt with.

I'm thinking what if we created a leaflet and gave it to people on the streets or posted it through their mail? If anyone on this forum has ideas to create a leaflet, I would gladly to love to help and print it here in the UK and give it to as much people as I can.

Just one question though because I think its important to know this. What happens once a person is injected with the virus(vaccine). Do they become contagious? Once a vaccine becomes available, will we have more to fear in terms of getting infected by the people who had the vaccine?

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