Detumescence Therapy- dedicated volunteers wanted

sizzlinghairs wrote:

bogv51 wrote:

SonofOdin wrote:If the Olive Oil is doing something about the DHT problem, then that would prove my theory as to why so many people sit around with vellus hairs from DT that never grow any further. The method drexx described is still confusing to me so I'm going to stick with my pinching for now.

What drexx said is pretty much the same as pinching but instead of using 2 hand to pinch he uses the other hand as a wall and squeeze with the other hand.

Still not getting it. You're saying he's using the heel of one Palm to act as a wall then using the heel of the other palm to push against it? (Engaging a bigger surface area).

I tried doing this in the direction he explained, from the back to front, and it's practically impossible.. Maybe if you go from front to back, vertically pinching along the way, it's more possible, but trying to go about it horizontally is very difficult.

PLEASE, WILL SOMEONE WHO IS GETTING SOLID RESULTS PLEASE PLEASE POST A VIDEO OF YOU DOING DT. PLEASE!

had to get that off my chest..

sizzlinghairs wrote:And you're saying a horizontal across pinch correct? Not a vertical (same direction as the hairline would go) pinch yes? I hope I'm making sense

Growdamnit wrote:Yeah, it isnt't working for me either...of course.

PotentPotential wrote:After 7 months, I've personally not seen regrowth. I have been doing the method correctly (pinching) since day 1. My hair is slightly worse than baseline, quite a bit more recession at the temples, the crown/vertex is largely the same. Something to note is that my hair in areas that were not balding did get healthier in texture and also got darker in colour.


I'm personally ceasing participation in this method, my primary reason being that dealing with the excess dandruff from DT daily has made my life much more difficult. I find myself obsessing over my hair more than ever and despite copious time investment (What much be close too 100-150 hours of head massaging, my results have been largely unfavorable.


I wish everyone the best of luck, on their hair loss journeys

drex1999 wrote:Hindsight, observations and new opinions

Every action has a reaction. The problem with this method is that the reactions take months. Ultimately though, the answers show themselves.

I don't take supplements, I don't eat well, I have sex all the time and I still regrew almost all my hair. Then I coasted and dropped some things and lost half of what I gained after a year of success. I have turned it around again as I posted some months ago and I believe I have learned some new things, by luck it would seem.

Let's back up to the year in which I first had success. I did the exercises religiously and something I didn't think was important. Once a week I rubbed some virgin olive oil on my head. I did it simply because I knew natural oils would penetrate the skin and I wanted it to help soften the build up and help clear the follicles so I had the best chance for success. Why virgin olive oil? What scientific reasons made me choose it? Because it was in my cupboard. That fell by the wayside after the first year. It was goopy, I had my hair back and the follicles were clear. End of discussion.

As I posted this past winter, my regime slackened and I started to lose the hair I gained. It took a few months to realize what was happening and start to turn it around. I did so by going back to pushing the skin into itself like a wall. I stopped losing hair and started getting new ones again. I came here and posted about what had happened. More time went by and I was getting more hair but not in the swaths I got in the first year. What was I missing? Just the olive oil but my follicles were clear. So I googled virgin olive oil and hair regrowth. You can do it yourself but I'll save you the trouble. Virgin olive oil blocks the production of dht in your scalp when applied topically. Why then has this not been the magic bullet for hairloss? Because, I believe, we still have compromised blood flow. BUT, if you take a two pronged approach....and I did...one month later, boom!!

My thought was this, and I put my thinking into action. Olive oil was helping stop dht and must have worked with a once a week application. Then, once we had gotten all the grease out in the first few months, we were artificially clearing the follicles and pumping them up with blood twice a day, just like twice a day minoxidil works. We have to pump them up because even though the scalp is looser, we still deal with compromised flow. I also took into consideration how the hair grows back, and I am not the only one to notice the hair grows back coming from the remaining terminal hair.

This is what I have been doing. Virgin olive oil twice a week, at least a half hour before a shower. That's how long it takes to soak in. I also changed the direction of which I push the skin into itself. I started pushing and torqueing the skin forward, from above my ears (where the blood arrives), towards the front of my head. I worked the whole temple going that direction, from the back toward the front. Imagine pushing the blood through flattened hoses. A bit awkward but you'll catch on. The results one month later coming off existing hair moving forward are spectacular. Better than anything I did in year one. If you do this exactly as I say religiously for two to three months and see nothing, give up. Anyone else having any kind of success should incorporate this and see what happens a month down the road. You're welcome I say that in advance because I have seen.

We'll now start the countdown until bald guys show up with their burning need to reply to this and tell how what I just said won't work. Doesn't matter. I own a mirror.

SonofOdin wrote:

Growdamnit wrote:I have had no luck whatsoever. What gives?

The majority who have had results have been slow receders and early norwoods. I think hiilikeyourbeard was a pretty high NW but the others, no. My theory is DT alone is not enough for hair loss that is at least somewhat aggressive because all it really is is a growth stim that gives the follicle the 'opportunity' to thrive again by stimulating it but if your system is aggressively attacking its follicles it'll be stimulated, killed, stimulated, killed... and there will be nothing to show for it except for possibly slower loss, and improved hair quality. Which...still may be benefits worth maintaining the therapy.

Match the severity of your hair loss with the intensity of your regimen. If your opponents bring out tanks, do not bring out horses.

Hole wrote:I have a feeling many people expect DT to show results after 1 day.

My experience after 5 months doing it badly, and 2 half doing it properly. I am gaining ground in general. The whole frontal line is more defined. Skin that was white as changed tonality to a darker brown, may as well be shadow from all the new vellus and random hair starting to grow.

What I can see from DT is that the process is proportionally inverse to that of hairloss, meaning I got first some larger vellus which falls and grow again months later now pigmented and thicker. I can also see that apart from extremely thick hair popping out randomly here and there, the filling starts always closer to areas where there is already existing hair.

To those expecting miraculous growth. Remember the 3 stages of hair growth: anagen, catagen and telogen phases and the timing and duration of each phase. Also DT alone doesn't address the DHT issue, for this you will need to find the root for your imbalance and make a change in diet or lifestyle, or take a mass bomb shortcut pill. I am going for the lifestyle change.

You are doing DT properly if you still feel the sensation of the massage on your scalp hours later you did DT. Also you need to be peeling dead skin. This dead skin is big, not like dandruff.

Good luck everyone.

Growdamnit wrote:Yes, parts of my scalp are tight even after doing this for a long time. You act like a fucking child.

SonofOdin wrote:If the Olive Oil is doing something about the DHT problem, then that would prove my theory as to why so many people sit around with vellus hairs from DT that never grow any further. The method drexx described is still confusing to me so I'm going to stick with my pinching for now.

Growdamnit wrote:Yes, parts of my scalp are tight even after doing this for a long time. You act like a fucking child.

Complexx wrote:

Growdamnit wrote:Yes, parts of my scalp are tight even after doing this for a long time. You act like a fucking child.

By any chance, are you denying that your scalp is still tight in certain places and toying with me? I cam go copy and paste your po......... never mind lol.

SonofOdin wrote:I wrote up a post to debate the no-pillow thing but, realized everyone needs to make their own decision. For me there is no decision to make because I'm already too far into DT and have experienced firsthand the effects. I personally believe that I should be bald by now if the pillow compression idea held any weight because I do DT for so much longer than most in this thread but I am not. I don't have much else to say as I can only speak from personal experience.

Growdamnit wrote:Xenon, do you have hard tissue in your bald spots if you pinch?