Detumescence Therapy- dedicated volunteers wanted

sizzlinghairs wrote:I appreciate your thoughts duke. I am actually pretty fit, exercise daily, eat pretty well. I try to pay attention to my posture etc etc.

The really strange thing is how the numbness is isolated to the tip of my left middle finger. Its been like this for almost 7 months now (the last time I did DT). I saw my hand specialist today again. He said since my EMG was normal and x ray was normal, it could be some kind of a-typical carpal tunnel. I asked him if he thought it could be actual nerve damage. He doesnt think so as there was no extreme blunt trauma, it was just me doing my massage, albeit pretty vigorously. The next step he said is to try and inject a cortisone shot into the carpal tunnel and see if my symptoms lesson or go away. A "diagnostic injection". I wish I could just figure out what this is.......   I would love to start DT again.

Well just doing all of those things doesn't mean that problems can't arise.  Without specific knowledge and attention to mobility and proper movement patterns  all kinds of things can go wrong.  

It's obviously up to you to do what you want and go ahead and let them inject you with stuff but if you haven't explored the reflexology side and releasing triggers points/strengthening and balancing muscles properly then I think it's a mistake.

I say this coming form being in a similar situation to you in my early twenties getting numbness and pain in my hands then sometimes numbness in my left cheek too.  

Doctors had lots of ideas for me, all of which I'm glad I didn't go with.  

No problems for almost a decade now.

I guess its just a difference in personality.  I would rather put the work in, find the source and fix it.  Rather than let people play around in hopes of finding a bandaid patch that I'll be dependent on for life as the problem worsens.  Just like with hair regrowth the journey of learning is a very enlightening one.

Good luck either way though![/quote]

I am definitely a huge supporter of alternative therapies. That's why im on this site. I am also familiar with trigger point therapy, have heard of reflexology, etc. I want to explore all those avenues. This particular shot is just a diagnostic, the purpose to pinpoint the source of the problem. I am not getting it done for relief, but just insight. I think
It could definitely be helpful in this regard. If it does help than at least I know the problem is within my carpal tunnel and I can go from there in working to address it through wholistic means such as the ones you mentioned.

At the end of the day, I just wanna be able to get back into DT.[/quote]

I really urge you to get into Yoga/stretching & TP therapy or you'll be just wasting your time my friend... The sooner you tackle this, the faster everything will work for you. Just a suggestion/my opinion though.

Well I bought the perfecthairhealth ebook, and have read most of it along with watching the DT video. I now realise iv been doing it wrong for the past 6 1/2 months, so donating $10 (yes you can buy it for $1, or even get it for free now) was a great purchase for me. Its well written and the guy has obviously put some time and effort into it so fair play to him if he gets a few dollars in donations.
Anyway - back to the technique, previously when I was pinching I was actually moving my fingers over the surface of my scalp simultaneously, resulting in tons of hairs falling out while doing this massage. I now loosen my scalp for 5minutes with big pinches all around the sides and back of head before working on the vertex/crown/problem areas, then continue to make small pinches in every direction without dragging my fingers. I believe this creates less friction and results in less hairs being plucked. Maybe this was described before but it really helped me to see something visual.

rob PHH wrote:Duke, you are welcome to pick up the book and video at no cost. Please read it before drawing conclusions. I hope you find it helpful.

What a peach! I'll certainly check it out and give my thoughts. DT is amazing and certainly can benefit from some clarification.

I personally wouldn't buy it given I'm getting great results as is, but I'll for sure take a look and share my thoughts.

I'd imagine it will only help your sales in the end too, the one problem I noticed with the site is a lack of "before pictures" so if what you're doing is like what I'm doing then I'll throw my 2 cents in on it.

Cheers and thanks for being open about it.

How did you come across detumescence massage and then this site?

Also, if you're happy showing your face with a full head of hair in your videos, why not put up a photo of you with hair loss?

I'm finding that my scalp is actually looser in the areas where my hair is thinning...temples and crown seem a lot more flexible then the vertex...so what gives? This was before doing any DT too...I've started just doing 10mins just before bed but am willing to commit to the 20mins twice a day, just need to get my routine in order.

I have to say tho, the longer I do Detumescence, the more confident I have in it. I cant see for all the other manual tho, the longer I do it the more discourage I am. I've been doing manual for over 4+ years from balayam, brushing to margo towel method.

Anyone's scalp stop being super oily? My scalp is way way looser now and doesnt get inflamed nearly as much but im still producing oil by the gallon. Hoping it will stop eventually but I dunno. My whole forehead is an oil slick after a few hours every day.

Slimnuts wrote:Anyone's scalp stop being super oily? My scalp is way way looser now and doesnt get inflamed nearly as much but im still producing oil by the gallon. Hoping it will stop eventually but I dunno. My whole forehead is an oil slick after a few hours every day.

I haven't had an intch on my head in about 3 months. Joking... but literally maybe 2 times my scalp has itched. This therapy should take that away along with the oil. For me anyway!

Can we have some updates people? This place has been rather dead over the past week.

playmaker wrote:I'm finding that my scalp is actually looser in the areas where my hair is thinning...temples and crown seem a lot more flexible then the vertex...so what gives?

same here, for me the most loosened areas are those where I lost all my hair, temples

RAptor wrote:

playmaker wrote:I'm finding that my scalp is actually looser in the areas where my hair is thinning...temples and crown seem a lot more flexible then the vertex...so what gives?

same here, for me the most loosened areas are those where I lost all my hair, temples

I'll say this once more, you have to loosen your ENTIRE scalp, not just the temples/crown. How can anybody possibly think that all of their hair follicles will receive adequate nourishment/blood supply if the main arteries around the middle of the head are compressed and constricted? If you don't loosen your whole scalp you are wasting your time IMO.

Complexx wrote:

RAptor wrote:

playmaker wrote:I'm finding that my scalp is actually looser in the areas where my hair is thinning...temples and crown seem a lot more flexible then the vertex...so what gives?

same here, for me the most loosened areas are those where I lost all my hair, temples

I'll say this once more, you have to loosen your ENTIRE scalp, not just the temples/crown. How can anybody possibly think that all of their hair follicles will receive adequate nourishment/blood supply if the main arteries around the middle of the head are compressed and constricted? If you don't loosen your whole scalp you are wasting your time IMO.

Im doing it on my temple and hairline and im seeing good results.

boogv510 wrote:

Complexx wrote:

RAptor wrote:

playmaker wrote:I'm finding that my scalp is actually looser in the areas where my hair is thinning...temples and crown seem a lot more flexible then the vertex...so what gives?

same here, for me the most loosened areas are those where I lost all my hair, temples

I'll say this once more, you have to loosen your ENTIRE scalp, not just the temples/crown. How can anybody possibly think that all of their hair follicles will receive adequate nourishment/blood supply if the main arteries around the middle of the head are compressed and constricted? If you don't loosen your whole scalp you are wasting your time IMO.

Im doing it on my temple and hairline and im seeing good results.

You may have a looser scalp

Complexx wrote:

boogv510 wrote:

Complexx wrote:

RAptor wrote:

playmaker wrote:I'm finding that my scalp is actually looser in the areas where my hair is thinning...temples and crown seem a lot more flexible then the vertex...so what gives?

same here, for me the most loosened areas are those where I lost all my hair, temples

I'll say this once more, you have to loosen your ENTIRE scalp, not just the temples/crown. How can anybody possibly think that all of their hair follicles will receive adequate nourishment/blood supply if the main arteries around the middle of the head are compressed and constricted? If you don't loosen your whole scalp you are wasting your time IMO.

Im doing it on my temple and hairline and im seeing good results.

You may have a looser scalp

My scalp is pretty tight to be honest when I first started, even my crown area is still super tight, I can't even pinch that part of the scalp.

boogv510 wrote:

Complexx wrote:

boogv510 wrote:

Complexx wrote:

RAptor wrote:

playmaker wrote:I'm finding that my scalp is actually looser in the areas where my hair is thinning...temples and crown seem a lot more flexible then the vertex...so what gives?

same here, for me the most loosened areas are those where I lost all my hair, temples

I'll say this once more, you have to loosen your ENTIRE scalp, not just the temples/crown. How can anybody possibly think that all of their hair follicles will receive adequate nourishment/blood supply if the main arteries around the middle of the head are compressed and constricted? If you don't loosen your whole scalp you are wasting your time IMO.

Im doing it on my temple and hairline and im seeing good results.

You may have a looser scalp

My scalp is pretty tight to be honest when I first started, even my crown area is still super tight, I can't even pinch that part of the scalp.

you might see results like i did focusing on temples only. but is it really necessary to point out that you might get better results if you do your whole scalp?

imagine your main artery being constricted to only 20% of potential blood flow. then you loosen up your temples and go crazy.. wow because now you've got 20% regrowth. i don't know about you but at least for my part i like to optimize what i do.

Complexx wrote:

RAptor wrote:

playmaker wrote:I'm finding that my scalp is actually looser in the areas where my hair is thinning...temples and crown seem a lot more flexible then the vertex...so what gives?

same here, for me the most loosened areas are those where I lost all my hair, temples

I'll say this once more, you have to loosen your ENTIRE scalp, not just the temples/crown. How can anybody possibly think that all of their hair follicles will receive adequate nourishment/blood supply if the main arteries around the middle of the head are compressed and constricted? If you don't loosen your whole scalp you are wasting your time IMO.

Just bringing it up because the ebook mentioned in the last few posts states that the places you're losing hair are thicker, less elastic, less pliable...where as mine are not.

Thanks for clearing that up Complexx

Complexx wrote:

How can anybody possibly think that all of their hair follicles will receive adequate nourishment/blood supply if the main arteries around the middle of the head are compressed and constricted?

Spot on man . . you hit the nail on the head

Imagine if you just worked your temples only. and it worked like a hair transplant and you just continued to lose all the hair behind it because you didn't loosen your scalp elsewhere lol

4 months, 1 week in. Today is the first actual day that I have noticed more hair with the visible eye. I cannot believe it's actually working.

are any of you guys currently on minox?

Minox - As far as I know nobody doing DT in this thread is on minox. I used it a long time ago though (years).

As for the perfect hair video/book- I've been super busy the past bit but took a glance at it. Seems like a good option for anyone who doesn't want to read through all the back and forth on the forums but is interested in blood flow/manual methods.
Just my opinion after giving it a quick glance.

Anyone getting 1 follicle growing more than 1 hair? I've heard a healthy head of hair usually has more than 1 hair per follicle. Mine seem to all have just 1.

Who is also Derma rolling whilst doing DT?

Complexx weren't you derma rolling?

Whats your protocol? how often? do you DT the next day right after? etc

playmaker wrote:Who is also Derma rolling whilst doing DT?

Complexx weren't you derma rolling?

Whats your protocol? how often? do you DT the next day right after? etc

People can't seem to read these threads.

i have something interesting for you guys, wondering what you think. i have thinning on the sides of my head, definetely. i started insepcting the area, and i notice without a doubt, when i push down on the sides of my head, it brings pain along with it. it's like, something is very tense there, and it's in the entire region where hair is gone. it also feels like almost there are extra bones there, and these bones are where the pain is. they feel like very hard veins. i dont know what it is.

maybe some form of TMJ?

ive strated massaging the area, but it is honestly a little painful.