Ebola Virus

CausticSymmetry wrote:Please define "they"

They = Those shareholders and those who advertise/stand to gain from the double speak from the propaganda, sensationalism from the idiot box and radio.

The basic principles of health are often ignored in favor of idiocy that replaces common sense.
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What propaganda? There's no politics in controlled independent studies. That's science. Common sense has nothing to do with Ebola, unless your an expert in the field of infectious diseases. You can't back up your comments without hinting at conspiracy's. Vitamin C and whatever shows no evidence to prevent anything in quality standard peer reviewed studies. You're basically winging it with posturing and hyperbole.

Citations please, and don't bother with orthomolecular papers.

Odysseus,

if u have any valuable ideas how about YOU back them with citations please. otherwise i suggest you stop trolling around here.

to each his own.. u dont buy into this theory, ok i get it. now lets agree to disagree. plz stop trolling and trying to start a flame war here.

Odysseus wrote:

CausticSymmetry wrote:Please define "they"

They = Those shareholders and those who advertise/stand to gain from the double speak from the propaganda, sensationalism from the idiot box and radio.

The basic principles of health are often ignored in favor of idiocy that replaces common sense.
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What propaganda? There's no politics in controlled independent studies. That's science. Common sense has nothing to do with Ebola, unless your an expert in the field of infectious diseases. You can't back up your comments without hinting at conspiracy's. Vitamin C and whatever shows no evidence to prevent anything in quality standard peer reviewed studies.  You're basically winging it with posturing and hyperbole.

Citations please, and don't bother with orthomolecular papers.

Oh you mean the nutritional journal that contains no bias or paid advertising from drug companies?

That one?

I posted it already (probably twice within the pages of this thread).

I made apple juice in order to create my own vinegar, cider and juice. In order to prevent oxidative decay after grinding i put MSM and vitamin C in the solution in order to ''age'' it over night before squeezing. On the other sample of the same apples i did not do anything. How can apple juice that contain plenty of synthetic vitamin C and MSM, stay non-oxidised for many, many days, where the other sample decays from oxidation in a few minutes? I think decay is connected also with ''infections'' that take their meal for free and help ferment the material. It totally works, and it's nutrition. A whole cheaper procedure would be to put K2S2O5 in there, for very the same effect, but i would risk human biocompatibility.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/2014/10/bill-sardi/ebola-is-good-for-the-vaccine-pharma-cartel/

Fear, distraction, and MONEY.

http://www.bolenreport.com/Ebo%20Lie.htm

hiilikeyourbeard wrote:It appears to me that possibly this whole ebola thing is either about fear or distraction. But what I want to know is what freedoms and rights this will scare us into allowing the removal of these rights. I can't see any other reason other than distraction. Maybe from what's going on with Israel/Palestine. Just throwing it out there. Fuck this world.

Thanks for the info CS, you're awesome.

Delphine wrote:Fear, distraction, and MONEY.

http://www.bolenreport.com/Ebo%20Lie.htm

hiilikeyourbeard wrote:It appears to me that possibly this whole ebola thing is either about fear or distraction. But what I want to know is what freedoms and rights this will scare us into allowing the removal of these rights. I can't see any other reason other than distraction. Maybe from what's going on with Israel/Palestine. Just throwing it out there. Fuck this world.

Nice read. Thank you. Great that he mentioned vitamin c, d and selenium

http://www.niaid.nih.gov/topics/ebolaMarburg/Pages/rabiesVaccebola.aspx

Delphine wrote:Fear, distraction, and MONEY.

http://www.bolenreport.com/Ebo%20Lie.htm

hiilikeyourbeard wrote:It appears to me that possibly this whole ebola thing is either about fear or distraction. But what I want to know is what freedoms and rights this will scare us into allowing the removal of these rights. I can't see any other reason other than distraction. Maybe from what's going on with Israel/Palestine. Just throwing it out there. Fuck this world.

Just curious. How is money made from vaccines? Vaccines are given free to the public.

Also this statement from the ebo-lie link..."In all likelihood, she was on mega doses of Vitamin D3, Vitamin C and Selenium, and she knew she was never going to come down with Ebola, so in her mind she knew she was posing no risk to others or herself."
That's a pretty big assumption. Did he actually talk to her and ask her if she took these supplements? Probably not. Not very professional if you ask me. If she doesn't get sick it's probably becuz she didn't come in contact with any bodily fluids from the camerman which he neatly neglected to ignore that possibility.

He also makes a big deal about "calling your doctor" if you do come down with symptoms of ebola. Well really, what else can you do? Get in contact with a medical professional as soon as possible. But if he is making fun of the fact that it's all the government's fault for not implementing a "no fly" zone to those african countries affected then he does have a point. The government should have done that just like other countries did. But then, isn't that just another loss of our freedoms from a facist, corporation-driven government that we (and he) doesn't want??? He seems to be riding both sides of the fence. But at least he believes this virus does exist. Maybe he should volunteer in treating the sick ones with the high doses of vitamins that he mentioned. If he shows that it can work then he would really be making a name for himself.

well the governments buy the vaccines off the drug companies. then u have politicians ties with fda and drug companies.

I still maintain that its companies taking advantage of a bad situation to profit. not creating a bad situation to profit.

The CDC (Centers for Disease Creation) dole out 4 Billion per year (tax dollars) for vaccines.

The real sad thing here is that the media is making a big deal in what is in reality a condition of dehydration and nutrient deprivation.

Sadly, most people have never heard of Antoine Beauchamp who figured out over 50 years ago what "modern science" still hasn't fully acknowledged or grasped.

They are starting to credit his work, indirectly via the microbiome.

Recent Nobel prizes acknowledging pleomorphism. Not junk science like the CDC promoting, embarrassingly inaccurate germ theory, based on the highly profitable medical model.


Louis Pasteur, back in 1885 created the ‘germ theory,’ the idea that germs are floating around in the air and will attack us if we do not inject intravenously known neurotoxin substances with highly questionable benefit.

The only reason why Louis Pasteur was able to promote this ideas was he worked for the government.

Antoine Beauchamp who champions the law of the terrain completely rejected Pasteur’s ideas.

Beauchamp believed that the biological terrain affects the cause of disease, not the germ itself. Beauchamp believed that germs and parasites will only survive in toxic conditions (and nutrient poor).

“The primary cause of disease is in us, always in us.”
Antoine Beauchamp, 1883

Louis Pasteur's germ theory works well for the economics, supporting all of the manufacturing, marketing, production and promotion of pharmaceuticals.

On his death bed Louise Pasteur was said to admit that Beauchamp’s theory was right and that all disease starts with the condition of the body.

When people wonder why not everyone gets sick when in contact with other sick people, it's because they have a good immune system.

Good sanitation, clean water and nutrient rich soil counts for a lot more than the medical establish will ever admit.

shaftless wrote:

Delphine wrote:Fear, distraction, and MONEY.

http://www.bolenreport.com/Ebo%20Lie.htm

hiilikeyourbeard wrote:It appears to me that possibly this whole ebola thing is either about fear or distraction. But what I want to know is what freedoms and rights this will scare us into allowing the removal of these rights. I can't see any other reason other than distraction. Maybe from what's going on with Israel/Palestine. Just throwing it out there. Fuck this world.

Just curious. How is money made from vaccines? Vaccines are given free to the public.

Also this statement from the ebo-lie link..."In all likelihood, she was on mega doses of Vitamin D3, Vitamin C and Selenium, and she knew she was never going to come down with Ebola, so in her mind she knew she was posing no risk to others or herself."
That's a pretty big assumption. Did he actually talk to her and ask her if she took these supplements? Probably not. Not very professional if you ask me. If she doesn't get sick it's probably becuz she didn't come in contact with any bodily fluids from the camerman which he neatly neglected to ignore that possibility.

He also makes a big deal about "calling your doctor" if you do come down with symptoms of ebola. Well really, what else can you do? Get in contact with a medical professional as soon as possible. But if he is making fun of the fact that it's all the government's fault for not implementing a "no fly" zone to those african countries affected then he does have a point. The government should have done that just like other countries did. But then, isn't that just another loss of our freedoms from a facist, corporation-driven government that we (and he) doesn't want??? He seems to be riding both sides of the fence. But at least he believes this virus does exist. Maybe he should volunteer in treating the sick ones with the high doses of vitamins that he mentioned. If he shows that it can work then he would really be making a name for himself.

Watch yourself. There's no place for reality or critical thinking in this forum. . . perhaps she used a violet ray gun wand to ward off the government created "virus".

Odysseus, enough trolling and flaming.

http://www.medicaldaily.com/estrogen-drugs-clomid-and-fareston-block-ebola-infection-246956

I do believe Ebola to be a dangerous virus. But I also feel perspective is important here. This whole media storm surrounding Ebola is all about availability heuristics, and not totally unlike the summer of the shark in the US back in '01. Everyone was terrified about going to a beach back then, but you were still more statistically likely to get killed by coconuts standing on shore than you were by a shark in the water.

Without perspective, data is useless (but the media doesn't want you thinking like that):



You are much more likely to die from HIV. But its not the "hot" disease right now and won't have the same fear properties or sensationalism.

Generally, when I see things like this happen, I look to see what type of things are happening legislatively at the time. The government likes creating a huge to do about something unrelated, right when its trying to get a controversial bill through under everyone's noses.

BUT: We do have to acknowledge Ebola is a scary thing. The infection rate is high, although things like mortality rates have to be taken in the context of where the Ebola event is most significant, places in Africa with generally much worse conditions clinically and in terms of health factors like diet. But that is precisely why we have to look at this graph a different way too: it COULD look a lot different in 4 years. If you made the data range for this graph only pertain to Sierra Leone, for example, Ebola would have a much higher contribution. Since the other factors are a continent-wide problem, they're killing more people. So we can't use this to totally discount the Ebola scare either. Its just perspective. Again, given the rates at which viruses can spread, that chart could look different in a few years.

it's pathetic to see people eat up this ebola crap. there is no ebola in this country and there probably never will be. there is only africans being injected with aids and ebola in africa

why else would civilians butcher 8 aid workers after claiming they're being poisoned?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqzFubh07YA

ebola is a real virus that resides in animals, and crosses from human to animal when they prepare bushmeat. its spreading through africa because of poor hygiene and poor handling of bodies, and lack of understanding of transmission.It Is real.

its no conspiracy, however the media does exagerate it because its unlikely to cause an epidemic in America or other western countries because of our good understanding and good training. its unlikely , but its possible it could get out of control. if just one person gets on a airplane with symptoms, things could go bad. Media is just like everyone else. profit driven, and trying to hype a story to sell advertising.

its not a conspiracy, nor is it is bad as media makes out. its somewhere in between as the truth usually is. the drug companies are just driven by profits, and taking advantage. annoying but not a conspiracy.

Ebola is a veryy interesting virus, it's an ARN virus, wich mean he is most likely to mutate every time he goes infect someone else (copy himself actually). Every time this happen, 1 or 2 mutations are made, most often its very minor mutation (fortunately or not), but the more he infect people the more he can mutate in a stronger form.. Or actually even the opposite. Im not a virus specialist, but im really wondering how much is smart such a virus ? is he smart enough to mutate in a more agressiv form (increase rate of death, increase days to kill someone to allow him to infect more people etc) or can he destroy actually himself ? Im not sure its always pure chance and im not sure a vaccin which works for a strain is effective for a far other strain.

I don't believe that viruses create disease, but rather a toxin encourages the body to increase a virus. The only exception to this is when viruses are injected into the blood stream from another species (then it is harmful).

So, assuming this is correct, it is already known that selenium radically prevent viral replication of ebola.
It is also known that a hemorrhagic fever is identical to a vitamin C deficiency and as such taking high doses will solve the issue.

The *only* question I have that remains to be answered is what exactly is different to create an exponential increase?

I don't believe a virus is to blame (it is the product of a toxin), therefore, I wonder type of poison/toxin contamination has been created. The answer will probably come out not far into the future.

I guess we're all just going to have to sit and watch as these Africans are killed by the millions. This is fucking disgusting.

I guess we have to make way for the new world order...but you didn't hear it from me

Can you imagine if the ebola virus can be transmitted by mosquitos? Directly into the bloodstream? Like malaria? I'm sure terrorists are working on that somewhere.

shaftless wrote:I guess we have to make way for the new world order...but you didn't hear it from me

Can you imagine if the ebola virus can be transmitted by mosquitos? Directly into the bloodstream? Like malaria? I'm sure terrorists are working on that somewhere.

90% of us gotta go

CS; I'm taking a stab here but;

1) The local population have been eating so called Ebola carrying animals, my guess for a very, very long time therefore entire tribes or villages would have been infected.

2) It is customary for these African cultures to handle their dead in preparation for burial therefore increasing it's spread, this custom has also been around for a very, very long time

Given the above, Ebola should have wiped us out a very long time ago! Do you agree?  

I'm with you, I'm just not buying the Ebola story! Why has it become a "False Armageddon" issue now? Whats the purpose behind creating the panic??

Kazbar wrote:CS; I'm taking a stab here but;

1) The local population have been eating so called Ebola carrying animals, my guess for a very, very long time therefore entire tribes or villages would have been infected.

2) It is customary for these African cultures to handle their dead in preparation for burial therefore increasing it's spread, this custom has also been around for a very, very long time

Given the above, Ebola should have wiped us out a very long time ago! Do you agree?  

I'm with you, I'm just not buying the Ebola story! Why has it become a "False Armageddon" issue now? Whats the purpose behind creating the panic??

I haven't heard the mainstream reason for even why this has just randomly happened either, have you? Like an explanation. None of this shit makes sense. I think that's why things are quiet now on the ebola front. Not sure of the next move.