Detumescence Therapy- dedicated volunteers wanted

focuspoint wrote:Let's summarize what we have.

As a starting point, we have one very dubios study from 2012.

Here is the link: http://omicsonline.org/2155-9554/2155-9554-3-138.pdf
Even the phone number appears in a completely unrelated "paper": http://omicsonline.org/giant-cutaneous-horn-in-afro-brazilian-descendent-patient-case-report-and-literature-review-2155-9554.1000137.php?aid=3474

One supposedly from Hong Kong, the other from Brazil...

It is most certainly a fake paper!

Then we have some people here who claim that DT works. However, they never provide evidence. At the most, low-res worthless pics showing nothing. They don't even provide a video demonstrating their approach. Just hollow propositions.

And then we have lots of people who are honest and diligent in their approach and eperienced no improvement at all.

Sounds like you should quit DT.

Why?

I am only 2 months in. DT is only a very small part of my regimen.

focuspoint wrote:Has anyone managed to really pinch the top part of the scalp?

I don't get it. It is just not possible for me.

Me neither, you should supposedly somehow massage it in order for the area to be pincheable.

I was not able to pinch it at first, but over time I am able with two hands.

focuspoint wrote:Why?

I am only 2 months in. DT is only a very small part of my regimen.

You gave no reason to continue DT in your previous post, and every reason to quit, so that is why. Better to save yourself time, especially if you probably won't stick to it. It may seem like a small part of your regimen but it is actually really time consuming. You're spending at minimum 20 hours a month. But, up to you. My whole point is its not easy to stick to something as labor intensive as this that you don't even necessarily have faith in.

Well, I merely pointed out that the DT study seems to be fake. And, that those who claim regrowth, fall short in providing evidence.

However, I think massaging the scalp is beneficial. It improves blood flow.

Reposition, repeat, all directions, over all problem areas

Thanks!

Let's say DT works. I think the key to regrowth is loosening up / flattening the topmost part of the scalp.

Nah, for me my vertex is so loose it has always felt like a waste of time to pinch. This is even before DT. Oddly enough my vertex hasn't lost a lot of hair... like, I was a NW4 purely out of super aggressive frontal hair loss.

drex1999 wrote:Reposition, repeat, all directions, over all problem areas

thx Drex, hows it going btw, are you still seeing results? any chance of a progress pic?

BE-COOL wrote:

The scalp feels great and loose, will report back if I get any visible results.

I purchased one of these and they're excellent. With some moderate pressure you can really get the scalp moving about... doing DT with the fingers easy enough going front to back in a line, but going perpendicular to that is tricky, for me at least. I foudn that massage going in the perpendicular direction has found plenty of spots of my scalp that are painfully tight (sure enough, the balding parts)

This is my opinion: Nice marketing strategy. Use another trendy stuff (DT) to send trafic to your blog with the so called "proof pics". Send people to a link selling an ebook.

I would rather stick to minoxidil and save my fingers from atrophy (lol at how fucked your fingers will be in 10 years from now by doing this daily).

PS: I do massage my scalp on the shower, slowly, but not with the severe dedication some of the guys here do it.

NW0, you ever hear of rock climbers? Stop throwing out bullshit before you can back it up.

Growdamnit wrote:NW0, you ever hear of rock climbers? Stop throwing out bullshit before you can back it up.

What bullshit?

http://jdmoyer.com/2015/04/13/hair/

The Perfect Hair Health Site and eBook

Rob’s site is PerfectHairHealth.com. He’s currently selling the Perfect Hair Health eBook + video on a sliding scale, pay-what-you-like basis, with a recommended price of $30. If you’re willing to invest the time and effort in the head massage technique, this seems perfectly reasonable. It’s equivalent to about a month-and-a-half’s supply of Rogaine

It's just my opinion. I said "I THINK".
Again, I would rather use minoxidil as the main vasodilatation, blood flow improvement, and have good ol masages on my shower, and not expect miracles from "DT".

Does anyone have the original link where "massager" ordered his bian stones? One of mine broke

Over stimulating the skin causes callosity (hardening) ..

Ex. barefoot walking, finger tips with guitar playing.

Which is why aspirin or salicylic acid is recommended as a topical since it's keratolytic.

Has anyone noticed a hardening of scalp skin because of DT?

The complete opposite.

May 11, 2015


What happened last month:

1. Consistently doing DT 2x daily 20 min sessions.
2. Ditched the baking soda shampoo as it was doing more damage to the hair. Now just washing hair with diluted apple cider vinegar.
3. Scaled back on the olive oil to 1x a week because 2x a week was making my hair too greasy. Also added tea tree oil to the mix.
4. Got a hair analysis done.
5. Got a mini trampoline.

Photos clearly show that the hair loss is progressing. Under normal light it's not as noticeable as in the photos. At this rate I probably have 3 - 4 months before I'll have to shave my head. Not really surprised seeing as I loose around 30 hairs with each DT sessions (and yes I count! LOL. Gotta keep myself entertained for 20 minutes while I do DT). I haven't experienced any crazy sheds like other people have reported, instead the hair loss has been steady. So obviously I haven't seen any visible results from DT (not expecting any until at least month 5) but I will say that my scalp feels better and is definitely more loose then when I started 2 months ago.

I got a hair analysis done by Analytical Research Labs. Test showed a slightly overactive thyroid and an exhausted adrenal gland. I'm also very low on sodium, iron, copper, manganese, and selenium. What's even more troubling is my ratio of sodium to potassium which is .86 while the norm should be 2.5. According to the report my ratio means that my body is in a state of "chronic physical degeneration". Great. This is what the report said specifically about hair loss - "sodium-to-potassium ratio on a tissue mineral test below 2.5:1 is indicative of protein breakdown. Potassium is released from cells, causing the potassium level to rise relative to sodium. Since hair is a protein structure, excessive protein breakdown can cause hair loss." And then there was a blurb about copper - "Copper imbalance often leads to lackluster hair and hair loss." I'm not a scientist so I don't know if all of the above is true but I definitely have to work on balancing my mineral levels.

I put the bit about the trampoline because I see some people mention the lymphatic system on this board. I got the trampoline because it is more effective then running not because I thought it may help with the hair loss. Still I wanted to mention it just in case.

That's all I got for now.

Thanks for keeping us updated, Denied. I don't know much about about blood tests and hair analyses but as far as DT goes try wetting your scalp with warm-hot water to loosen things up prior to massaging. This should reduce hair-pull to a minimum.

I'll try using hot water and see if it helps.

One thing I forgot to mention is that if I look real close at the front of my head I can see a bunch of tiny, almost clear hair, that cover all of the bald spots. I'm sure the top of my head is like that too but I can't confirm. It would be awesome if these hairs started growing.

We all have those tiny vellus hairs. The problem is getting them to grow. I'm pretty far along into DT and am starting to think it is a bunch of bullshit in my case.

I don't believe this is the cure in my case. Have been at it for a while now and my hairline is at an all time low.

Growdamnit wrote:I don't believe this is the cure in my case. Have been at it for a while now and my hairline is at an all time low.

Ill give it another month, end up june. If there's no results to show, I'm pretty much done with dt. Hopefully, follicept is my savior.

Follicept? I got a weird PM about that shit.