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Post  Espio Thu Jun 13, 2013 9:16 am

So 2 root canal related things happened last weekend:

A guy from work passed away last weekend, he was only around 40 years old, in good shape, worked construction and lumber mill his whole life. Had a heart attack while he was at home, we are all wondering how this could of happened. Then I thought it could have been because he had a root canal, his front tooth was so grey that he earned the nickname "greytooth". What else could have caused such a young, healthy man to get a heart attack? Well people who work here do drink a lot of energy drinks, and I realize thats bad for your heart, but still, do you think that there is a link between heart problems and root canals?

Secondly, last weekend my front tooth (which was a root canal for over 10 years) broke off below the gum-line. So I was wondering if anyone can give me some advice on what to do? Since I've had the root canal 10 years ago, it's been and endless waste of money going to dentist and having it re-filled because my body continues to decay the tooth (or what the dentist calls "reabsorbtion"), so the last couple years I said, forget it i'm just going to let my body decay the tooth if thats what it wants to do.

So I was going to get a new tooth put in but now I figure after my friend from worked died  from a heart issue, maybe I should just get the remaining root drilled out and then just get one of those fake teeth that fit in the wire retainer. Because I don't want to risk getting an implant and having my body react to that as well.

Also, is there even a need to get the rest of the tooth drilled out? it broke a about a quarter an inch into the gumline, do you think my body will eventually decay the rest of it? or should I get it all drilled out?

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Post  CausticSymmetry Thu Jun 13, 2013 10:59 am

Espio - Here's a related post about root canals.

https://immortalhair.forumotion.com/t8296-in-vitro-enzymatic-inhibition-associated-with-asymptomatic-root-canal-treated-teeth-results-from-a-sample-of-25-extracted-root-fragments

To answer your question. It would best to have the tooth system removed (including the attaching ligament) aka periodontal ligament that anchors to the jaw bone. This has to be cleaned out thoroughly. Often there is an infection in the area around the jawbone or bottom of the tooth.

Also, an implant would be a mistake.

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Post  NYJets Thu Jun 13, 2013 6:55 pm

Hey espio,

Tough situation and I can relate. I took CS advice and had an extraction. No one wants to lose teeth but I don't want additional health issues secondary to root canals. Best of luck and find a holistic biological dentist if you can.
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Post  Espio Thu Jun 13, 2013 9:24 pm

Thank you both. NYjets, did you feel any different after the extraction?

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Post  Espio Thu Jun 13, 2013 9:32 pm

CS I read the study you linked, but I still don't understand why extraction is any healthier than the root canal. I mean, wouldn't you still have sterility issues once the tooth is extracted? NOt only the dentist tools drilling in there, but also it's going to take a month for the gum to heal over where the tooth was, so during that time something could get in there couldn't it?

Years ago I showed you a study that showed that people who had tooth extraction were a bit more likely to have heart disease than people with root canals. DO you think that there is possibly NO safe way of treating a damaged root, once we damage one tooth, our health is forever in jeopardy?

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Post  MilBA Fri Jun 14, 2013 8:54 am

CS, what do you recommend aesthetic wise? I'm all for the optimum health outcome, but I wouldn't walk around with a big gap in my front teeth.

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Post  CausticSymmetry Fri Jun 14, 2013 12:03 pm

Espio wrote:CS I read the study you linked, but I still don't understand why extraction is any healthier than the root canal. I mean, wouldn't you still have sterility issues once the tooth is extracted? NOt only the dentist tools drilling in there, but also it's going to take a month for the gum to heal over where the tooth was, so during that time something could get in there couldn't it?

Years ago I showed you a study that showed that people who had tooth extraction were a bit more likely to have heart disease than people with root canals. DO you think that there is possibly NO safe way of treating a damaged root, once we damage one tooth, our health is forever in jeopardy?



Most of the time, when teeth are extracted, the attaching ligament is left in the socket. The problem will remain. When an extraction is performed, two things are necessary for it to not get worse.  (1) the socket must be cleaned out and the periodontal ligament removed. (2) A blood clots must be able to form shortly after the tooth is extracted. The "3-mile Huggin's rule" applies here, which means one should not drive more than 3 miles from the site of extraction, or the clot will not form properly and consequently, the infection within the jawbone will remain. Even more pathogenic bacteria can be found here than the root canal tooth itself.

In regards to those who have less teeth, it could be from a variety of causes, and most of them are detrimental to the human system, so cardiovascular disease is not a surprise there. Some reasons for less teeth be anything from methamphetamine use to periodontal disease, both of which will hasten heart disease.

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Post  Espio Sat Jun 15, 2013 9:58 am

I don't understand the 3-mile rule? Why would driving more than 3 miles cause the blood clot to not form properly? Too much bouncing around in the car? He's going to pull the remains of the tooth on monday, and he told me that he was going to remove the peridontal ligament as well, he said that the peridontal ligament normally comes out with the tooth when it is pulled.

How long do I have to avoid driving for? If I have to have it pulled at 9:30, can I just sit in the office for a couple hours until the blood clot forms? Also, is it safe to go to a hard labor job at a lumber mill at 4:30 PM? that's like 8 hours after the tooth will be pulled? Should I call in sick that day?

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Post  CausticSymmetry Sat Jun 15, 2013 11:01 am

Scroll way down until you see a list of numbers....Read #15 on that page, that explains it a little:

http://biologicdentists.com/custom3.html

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