Are there any stem cell treatments that doesn't require liposuction?

Hi,

We already know that MPB is a multi-faceted problem and we need to take care of our health 360. So already knowing that is important, combining that with a clinic treatment might be the only hope for some of us.

Most of the treatment requires removal of fat from the body, which I don't like the sound of. Probably would leave scarring.

Is there any promising stem cell treatment to regrow the hair follicles that doesn't require liposuction. I heard this could even cause cancer in some cases.

I've found some clinics offering Allogenic Stem Cell treatments.

They are very rare and hard to find. I'm guessing this is due to the regulation.

Just as I was getting excited at the idea of doing an allogenenic stem cell treatment for hair loss, I've also read some things that is worrisome. Is allogenic stem cell treatment for hair loss dangerous?

MikeGore wrote:I've found some clinics offering Allogenic Stem Cell treatments.

They are very rare and hard to find. I'm guessing this is due to the regulation.

Just as I was getting excited at the idea of doing an allogenenic stem cell treatment for hair loss, I've also read some things that is worrisome. Is allogenic stem cell treatment for hair loss dangerous?

The allopathic model and especially the physicians who are indoctrinated into this mindset in the vast majority of cases have absolutely no idea of what they are talking about.

This especially extends to most of what is found on the "approved" Internet sites, especially those such as WedMD, Health Central, Mayo Clinic, etc.  Most of this is inverted reality, loaded with half-truths and out of context claims.

So the most common we hear about are those proclaiming mechanistic cause and effect entirely based on correlation or epidemiology, which is not science at all.

Meaning, claims that certain things cause cancer are usually incorrect and those things or procedures deemed safe are not really safe from cancer.

So with said, normally it is necessary to go outside of FDA 'regulated' countries to receive the allogenenic stem cell treatments.

Allogeneic stem cells are not required to be received via liposuction.

Instead they can be sourced from various tissues and biological materials.

Peripheral blood stem cells (PBSCs): These are collected from a donor’s bloodstream through a process called apheresis.

Bone marrow stem cells: These are collected from a donor’s bone marrow through a procedure called bone marrow harvesting.

Umbilical cord blood stem cells and there's more.

That said, I am currently experimenting with a much easier way -- not allogeneic stem cells, but stem cells found in bovine bone marrow. For example: https://amzn.to/4dHYfBN

The idea behind this is 3-fold:  Contains stem cells and a good source of geranylgeraniol (GG) which is a compound synthesized endogenously in the human body via the mevalonate pathway, which is a precursor to things like ubiquinone (CoQ10) vitamin K2 and testosterone, and tocotrienols.

CS, do these stem cells get absorbed? I am suspecting the digestive juices could degrade them. If yes, do bovine stem cells have effects in humans? Very interested to hear your opinion.

Atlas wrote:CS, do these stem cells get absorbed? I am suspecting the digestive juices could degrade them. If yes, do bovine stem cells have effects in humans? Very interested to hear your opinion.

So yes this is mechanistic speculation on my part, however despite challenges on digestive juices, there are some botanical extracts that can exert influences.

So with respect to Bovine sourced, freeze dried bone marrow extract, the presence of a ligand for CD62L in raw bone marrow extract is indeed possible. CD62L, also known as L-selectin, is a cell adhesion molecule that plays a crucial role in the homing and trafficking of hematopoietic stem cells within the bone marrow and peripheral tissues. Ligands for CD62L can modulate the expression of CXCR4 on CD34+ bone marrow cells. CXCR4 is a chemokine receptor that, along with its ligand CXCL12 (stromal cell-derived factor 1), is vital for the retention of hematopoietic stem cells in the bone marrow niche.

Research has shown that certain extracts can influence the expression of CXCR4 and the mobilization of CD34+ CD133+ and CD34+ CD133- cells. For instance, an extract from Aphanizomenon flos-aquae (AFA), which is rich in a novel ligand for CD62L, was found to modulate CXCR4 expression on CD34+ bone marrow cells in vitro. This modulation was associated with the mobilization of CD34+ CD133+ and CD34+ CD133- cells in vivo

https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Christian-Drapeau/publication/6074106_Mobilization_of_human_CD34CD133_and_CD34CD133-_stem_cells_in_vivo_by_consumption_of_an_extract_from_Aphanizomenon_flos-aquae-related_to_modulation_of_CXCR4_expression_by_an_L-selectin_ligand/links/5a61ef89aca272a158177484/Mobilization-of-human-CD34-CD133-and-CD34-CD133-stem-cells-in-vivo-by-consumption-of-an-extract-from-Aphanizomenon-flos-aquae-related-to-modulation-of-CXCR4-expression-by-an-L-selectin-ligand.pdf

If this is translatable, then the components within bone marrow extract could potentially interact with CD62L, thereby affecting CXCR4 expression and influencing the mobilization of stem cells.

Anyway that being said, even if it is not an effector of stem cells in any way, then just having the "GG" and the raw materials is quite impressive...some promising anecdotes point the way towards the stem cell possibility of it being a ligand.

Then there is the connective tissue value in bone marrow, for which the body has a much harder time with de novo collagen synthesis after the age of 25.

Awesome! Thank you very much for your detailed answer!

CausticSymmetry wrote:

MikeGore wrote:I've found some clinics offering Allogenic Stem Cell treatments.

They are very rare and hard to find. I'm guessing this is due to the regulation.

Just as I was getting excited at the idea of doing an allogenenic stem cell treatment for hair loss, I've also read some things that is worrisome. Is allogenic stem cell treatment for hair loss dangerous?

The allopathic model and especially the physicians who are indoctrinated into this mindset in the vast majority of cases have absolutely no idea of what they are talking about.

This especially extends to most of what is found on the "approved" Internet sites, especially those such as WedMD, Health Central, Mayo Clinic, etc.  Most of this is inverted reality, loaded with half-truths and out of context claims.

So the most common we hear about are those proclaiming mechanistic cause and effect entirely based on correlation or epidemiology, which is not science at all.

Meaning, claims that certain things cause cancer are usually incorrect and those things or procedures deemed safe are not really safe from cancer.

So with said, normally it is necessary to go outside of FDA 'regulated' countries to receive the allogenenic stem cell treatments.

Allogeneic stem cells are not required to be received via liposuction.

Instead they can be sourced from various tissues and biological materials.

Peripheral blood stem cells (PBSCs): These are collected from a donor’s bloodstream through a process called apheresis.

Bone marrow stem cells: These are collected from a donor’s bone marrow through a procedure called bone marrow harvesting.

Umbilical cord blood stem cells and there's more.

That said, I am currently experimenting with a much easier way -- not allogeneic stem cells, but stem cells found in bovine bone marrow. For example: https://amzn.to/4dHYfBN

The idea behind this is 3-fold:  Contains stem cells and a good source of geranylgeraniol (GG) which is a compound synthesized endogenously in the human body via the mevalonate pathway, which is a precursor to things like  ubiquinone (CoQ10) vitamin K2 and testosterone, and tocotrienols.

Thanks for that CS.

I'll definitely buy that supplement. Looks like a great one to add to stack.