Another Heavy Metal Detox Question (newbie)

Okay, been reading around the forums for a while and seems the general consensus is that doing a heavy metal detox could benefit hair. After extensively using the search function, I couldn't find some answers I was looking for.

My questions:

I have no idea if I need a heavy metal detox or not. Do I? I've never done a detox before. I've smoked marijauna for several years. Could that mean I would need a heavy metal detox since I've used metal pipes?

If I do need a heavy metal detox, should I use humifluvate? if so, for how long? And do I need to take anything with it?

Thanks

Hey there, you'd be surprised where metals come from ... and you'd be surprised on how much accumulate in the average person.

To sum up my entire answer, yes, chelate! it's the best thing yet that I've done for health, and has pretty much stopped my hair loss.

I would start with Humifulvate and Modified Citrus Pectin, and also use Selenemethionine and Iodine, use it subjectively, take it one day at a time, only you will know how and when to stop or slow use.

As and if you choose to venture further into the goldmine of information here on this site, you'll know where to go next.

actHey there, you'd be surprised where metals come from ... and you'd be surprised on how much accumulate in the average person.

To sum up my entire answer, yes, chelate! it's the best thing yet that I've done for health, and has pretty much stopped my hair loss.

I would start with Humifulvate and Modified Citrus Pectin, and also use Selenemethionine and Iodine, use it subjectively, take it one day at a time, only you will know how and when to stop or slow use.

As and if you choose to venture further into the goldmine of information here on this site, you'll know where to go next.

Okay so I suppose I will detox. However, I don't have much cash at the moment to get everything/do I even need everything. Couldn't I just get away with doing humifulvate?

I've been reading various posts about iodine and at this time, am still unsure if I'm going to take it.

If I take this:

http://www.iherb.com/Jarrow-Formulas-ToxGuard-Heavy-Metal-Detox-90-Veggie-Caps/7774?at=hil335

Will it be enough to detox heavy metals in my system? How long would I have to take this?

These are questions that are subjective, I honestly don't think either Humifulvate or MCP alone will be enough to get the best results, and the time in which you should be taking it will become apparent to you once you start / stop. As for Iodine, doooo it! hahah. I've taken in a mess of Iodine today, and after initial detox symptoms are over it's just a great thing, some will have some trouble with it but that's the same with everything.

https://immortalhair.forumotion.com/t4802-chelation-and-intense-fever-off-topic I started this thread as soon as I started chelation, should give you all you need to start.

If you're looking for a simple solution, iodine reduces the load of heavy metals and is essential for hairloss and health. Be sure to take it with selenium and silica. For more info:
http://curezone.com/forums/f.asp?f=815
https://immortalhair.forumotion.com/t3369-iodine-supplementation-protocol-salt-loading#29730

After that I suggest you look into cutler's books and stuff on the web, but only if you have the time, (a little) money and the discipline....

I am more than happy, taht we are going to back to the basic, again.
I went through a couple of threads about detox and carefully note every suggestion. However, I do not went throuhg all off them, but through majority of them, I hope...
And here is the result:

Humifulvate Therapy for Heavy Metal Chelation

Humifulvate
Suggestions
- Supplementing with Selenium, Zinc, Magnesium
- If you're getting brain fog, than give yourself a break, recycle again later on
- Niacinamide and B5 may help with the brain fog
Dosage
- One pill on empty stomach before bed
- Before bed works well (CS)
- Take between meals (CS)

Iodine
Description
- Iodine is a chelator in itself, but I also find it works better when you take iodine with the other chelators
- Low thyroid always indicates a presence of inflammation, and various forms of hormone resistance is a result, which is indicative of
premature aging

Modified Citrus Pectin
Description
- It does not strip essential minerals
Dosage
- MCP 4 hours away from food and supplements do not matter
- MCP chelating heavy metals without binding to essential minerals, and without any adverse effects
- 3 pills as a last thing before I go to bed and 3 more pills first thing when I wake up in the morning and I won't eat for an hour

Chlorella
Description
- albumin removes mercury in the brain and you can increase your albumin levels by taking chlorella
- Using large doses of chlorella facilitates fecal mercury excretion

ALA
Description
- alpha lipoic acid to chelate mercury from the brain

DMSA
Description
- DMSA removes mercury from the brain
- If useing ALA ,then follow the Cutler protocol and use DMSA, this will speed up the process by 40%
- addition of 2 ml of hyaluronic acid with the DMPS tends to improve the excretion of mercury by two to four fold with virtually
no toxicity
- Vitamin E doses of 400 I.U per day have been shown to have a protective effect when the brain is exposed to methyl-mercury
- Selenium, 200-400 mcg daily is a particularly important trace mineral in mercury elimination and should be used for most patients
- Selenium supplementation counteracts the negative impacts of exposure to mercury
- Watch the moon cycles, build up on waxing, detox on waning, and your bodies ability to successfully excrete it
- Selenomethionine is the propper form

Support/Cleanup
1. Iodine - 5 drops in the morning right now, will prob increase until negative reaction and then scale back
2. Chlorella/Spirulina - couple times a week
3. Selenium
4. Vitamin E
5. Vitamin C - 1-3 grams per day

Regimen by Action Reaction
1. Jarrows Toxguard
2. Country Life Activated Charcoal
3. Enzymatic Therapy Metal Cleanse
4. Twinlab L-Histidine
5. Jarrow IP6
6. Selenemethionine
7. Iodine
8. Sea Salt

My questions
I have read, that one should not chelate, unless haveing amalgams. I have plenty of them, about 10 . So it is safe to chelate? Or should I do something different, becouse there is no easy job to remove all those fillings.

Question:

Is amalgam something you get as a filling when you have a cavity? I've had 3 cavities in my life.. so does that mean I have amalgam, and therefore should detox?

Another Question:

Is there a way to detox with less? All of these products = expensive when put together. I was thinking of doing the Humifulvate, but would just that do anything for me?

Final Question:

After reading around the forum and getting mixed reviews of iodine, along with the video of the that doctor who says it can be bad for people with low thyroid and cause even more problems, is iodine safe, or no?

Very important that you have regular bowel movement while chelating and that you are urinating frequently. Taking psyllium with bentonite clay can help with the flushing of waste.

GreenPower,

You can try this recipe...

4 cloves garlic
1/3 cup Brazil nuts (selenium source)
1/3 cup sunflower seeds (cysteine source)
1/3 cup pumpkin seeds (zinc, magnesium sources)
2 cups packed fresh cilantro (coriander, Chinese parsley) (Vitamin A source)
2/3 cup flaxseed oil
4 tablespoons lemon juice (Vitamin C source)
2 tsp. Dulse powder
Bragg's Liquid Aminos™


I tried it out minus the amino acids. I suggest using frsh squeezed lemon juice though.

I had pretty bad brain fox and sluggishness when i hit it heavy with this stuff. On days where I had more than the recommended 2 tablespoons I was so out of it I could barely have a conversation or go to grocery store. Effects would last for around 48 hours tops once I quit. It's suggested doing it for two weeks at a time. I think it's called heavy metal pesto or something, you can google it. I didn't think it was going to do much at all when I first started it but I was hit very hard. Worth a shot to save some money and stay more natural.

Yanks wrote:GreenPower,

You can try this recipe...

4 cloves garlic
1/3 cup Brazil nuts (selenium source)
1/3 cup sunflower seeds (cysteine source)
1/3 cup pumpkin seeds (zinc, magnesium sources)
2 cups packed fresh cilantro (coriander, Chinese parsley) (Vitamin A source)
2/3 cup flaxseed oil
4 tablespoons lemon juice (Vitamin C source)
2 tsp. Dulse powder
Bragg's Liquid Aminos™


I tried it out minus the amino acids. I suggest using frsh squeezed lemon juice though.

I had pretty bad brain fox and sluggishness when i hit it heavy with this stuff. On days where I had more than the recommended 2 tablespoons I was so out of it I could barely have a conversation or go to grocery store. Effects would last for around 48 hours tops once I quit. It's suggested doing it for two weeks at a time. I think it's called heavy metal pesto or something, you can google it. I didn't think it was going to do much at all when I first started it but I was hit very hard. Worth a shot to save some money and stay more natural.

I include most of all that in my diet already except for Dulse powder, and Braggs Liquid Aminos. I've also been meaning to add cilantro into my diet for awhile. Your results sound interesting, I'll give it a try.

I don't like buying garlic from the grocery store though, IMO freshly grown garlic from a farmer is way stronger and effective so I might wait until summer time. I'll try this along with pragues "electron bombshell" formula.

jeruslan wrote:DMSA
Description
- DMSA removes mercury from the brain

No, that's what ALA is for.....

jeruslan wrote:My questions
I have read, that one should not chelate, unless haveing amalgams. I have plenty of them, about 10 . So it is safe to chelate? Or should I do something different, becouse there is no easy job to remove all those fillings.

It's the other way around would be fucked up if only people with tooth decay had the privilege to detox

Agree with Pancacke, be careful with mercury while you have fillings, I think humifulvate is fine for you for now but definitely not ALA chelation.

GreenPower wrote: I've also been meaning to add cilantro into my diet for awhile. Your results sound interesting, I'll give it a try.

I don't like buying garlic from the grocery store though, IMO freshly grown garlic from a farmer is way stronger and effective so I might wait until summer time. I'll try this along with pragues "electron bombshell" formula.

Cilatron is good for dumping tellurium, but shouldn't be used with amalgams or when mercury toxic.

Concerning the garlic, check it: http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1699887#i

You can still roast it and use it like that everywhere.

For medicinal use get fresh Bear Garlic or grow you own if you are in a place that floods with mountain run off...high Se...

http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1699896

pancacke wrote:If you're looking for a simple solution, iodine reduces the load of heavy metals and is essential for hairloss and health. Be sure to take it with selenium and silica. For more info:
http://curezone.com/forums/f.asp?f=815
https://immortalhair.forumotion.com/t3369-iodine-supplementation-protocol-salt-loading#29730

After that I suggest you look into cutler's books and stuff on the web, but only if you have the time, (a little) money and the discipline....

Thanks act
Why is Silica important with Iodine?

Iodine, selenium and silica are dependend on each other, just like calcium and magnesium etc.

I take this stuff http://www.iherb.com/Herb-Pharm-Horsetail-1-fl-oz-29-6-ml/8700?at=0

hey pancake/AR

why the issue with mercury/amalgrams and cilantro exactly? My father has a bunch of almagrams and I've convinced him he needs to start doing some chelating, but I don't think there's much hope for him removing the fillings...

He has been using ALA for a while now and I don't understand the issue with it and fillings entirely.

He also began using the recipe I posted above, containing a lot of cilantro. He had the same issues I had with it including brain fog, joint pain, exhaustion. I'm wondering if he was doing more damage than repair.

Also...

Are other types of fillings safe when it comes to chelating? I have some. (I think ceramic)

And what would be the safest, most effective approach for him while having the amalgrams present?

Yanks wrote:hey pancake/AR

why the issue with mercury/amalgrams and cilantro exactly? My father has a bunch of almagrams and I've convinced him he needs to start doing some chelating, but I don't think there's much hope for him removing the fillings...

He has been using ALA for a while now and I don't understand the issue with it and fillings entirely.

He also began using the recipe I posted above, containing a lot of cilantro. He had the same issues I had with it including brain fog, joint pain, exhaustion. I'm wondering if he was doing more damage than repair.

Also...

Are other types of fillings safe when it comes to chelating? I have some. (I think ceramic)

And what would be the safest, most effective approach for him while having the amalgrams present?

The problem with ALA when you have a veritable Mercury factory in your mouth is that the ALA crosses the blood brain barrier, so it could make your most sensetive organ more loaded with metals than it was before the chelation.

Ok I guess since before the ALA crosses into the brain it would bind to the free mercury in your blood being output by the fillings bring them into the brain more freely? I would think that since it is already bound to the ALA that it would not deposit in the brain? Is it that the bond is too weak to hold onto the mercury all the way through excretion?

Yanks wrote:Ok I guess since before the ALA crosses into the brain it would bind to the free mercury in your blood being output by the fillings bring them into the brain more freely? I would think that since it is already bound to the ALA that it would not deposit in the brain? Is it that the bond is too weak to hold onto the mercury all the way through excretion?

I'm not sure of the exact answer to that, but I do know that you do not want to risk it.

Yanks wrote:Ok I guess since before the ALA crosses into the brain it would bind to the free mercury in your blood being output by the fillings bring them into the brain more freely? I would think that since it is already bound to the ALA that it would not deposit in the brain? Is it that the bond is too weak to hold onto the mercury all the way through excretion?

http://onibasu.com/wiki/Cutler_protocol#The_3_month_rule
"ALA slightly increases the permeability of the blood brain barrier to mercury, and using it right after acute exposure may cause some mercury to be deposited in the brain as the mercury concentrations move toward equilibrium. This equilibrium process is slow and ALA accelerates it. "
Think of it as reaching a critical mass, you don't want mercury to reach a certain concentration, doesn't matter if it stays there for long....

If you continue ALA, at one point it will lesson the blood and brain levels, but it might not be that much fun
http://onibasu.com/archives/am/26985.html

Yanks wrote:hey pancake/AR

why the issue with mercury/amalgrams and cilantro exactly? My father has a bunch of almagrams and I've convinced him he needs to start doing some chelating, but I don't think there's much hope for him removing the fillings...

He has been using ALA for a while now and I don't understand the issue with it and fillings entirely.

He also began using the recipe I posted above, containing a lot of cilantro. He had the same issues I had with it including brain fog, joint pain, exhaustion. I'm wondering if he was doing more damage than repair.

Also...

Are other types of fillings safe when it comes to chelating? I have some. (I think ceramic)

And what would be the safest, most effective approach for him while having the amalgrams present?

Cilantro also crosses bbb so you should do some dmsa or similar beforehand. Don't know about the fillings, because I never had any, but there surly are some safe options out there(CS posted few time about it).
If you got your dad to take ALA, I think he would be open to amalgam removal, no!? I see no sense in chelating mercury without it......

actAgree with Pancacke, be careful with mercury while you have fillings, I think humifulvate is fine for you for now but definitely not ALA chelation.

Thank You for Your help...

So in sum up, the result what I should take is:

1. Humifulvate
Enzymatic Therapy, Complete Metal Cleanse

Code:

http://www.iherb.com/Enzymatic-Therapy-Complete-Metal-Cleanse-30-UltraCaps/4926?at=0

or
Jarrow Formulas, ToxGuard, Heavy Metal Detox?

Code:

http://www.iherb.com/Jarrow-Formulas-ToxGuard-Heavy-Metal-Detox-90-Veggie-Caps/7774?at=0

2. Chlorella
Jarrow Formulas, Yaeyama Chlorella, 1 Kilogram Powder? It seems to me as a good deal.

Code:

http://www.iherb.com/Jarrow-Formulas-Yaeyama-Chlorella-1-Kilogram-Powder-1000-g/147?at=0

3. Zinc
Now Foods, Zinc Picolinate

Code:

http://www.iherb.com/Now-Foods-Zinc-Picolinate-50-mg-120-Capsules/878?at=0

or
Now Foods, Zinc?

Code:

http://www.iherb.com/Now-Foods-Zinc-50-mg-250-Tablets/883?at=0

4. Selenemethionine
Now Foods, Selenium, Yeast Free, 200 mcg, is this one fine?

Code:

http://www.iherb.com/Now-Foods-Selenium-Yeast-Free-200-mcg-180-Vcaps/818?at=0

5. Panthenol
I have been watching for Panthenol tablets on www.iherb.com, but have not found any. On the other hand, thera are a lot of shampoos containign this
substance. Do you think it can help my hair? I get great results on tablets...


I skip MCP and magnesium, do not have so much money. I hope I get enough from seeds consumption. I think that this is just enough for the first-timer ... From what I have read, it seems to me, that geting cleanse form metals is a long run jurney. And do not want to hurry my self into it.
So what do you think about this regimen? Would you add something or remove something?

On the other hand, I want to order some Biotin for skin and something for my academic performance as well as cosmetics, so I must be frugal. ...
Please, be patient with me, and discuss this stuff as well... I am form Europe, so I do not want to order too often, due to the shiping fees and time of arrival.

For skin care:
1. Biotin
Now Foods, Biotin, 5,000 mcg

Code:

http://www.iherb.com/Now-Foods-Biotin-5-000-mcg-60-Vcaps/447?at=0

For academic performance:
1. Cholin and Inositol.
Now Foods, Choline & Inositol, 500 mg

Code:

http://www.iherb.com/Now-Foods-Choline-Inositol-500-mg-100-Capsules/513?at=0

2. Country Life, BioChem, Phosphatidylserine Complex, Neuro-PS

Code:

http://www.iherb.com/Country-Life-BioChem-Phosphatidylserine-Complex-Neuro-PS-60-Softgels/11118?at=0

I get this by reviewing Immortal Hair site.

Code:

http://www.immortalhair.org/apps/blog/show/2044225-lifting-mental-fog

I am looking forward for Your advices on all topics mentioned... Without Your inputs I am lost... Please Help !!!

Jeruslan

1) Never tried one of these, but I think toxguard is what many here use
2)Don't know what you need the chlorella for, but chelating is better with other agents....
3)Again what is this for? If you want to supplement zinc than only with copper, in a ~10:1 ratio(otherwise drags metals in your brain)
http://aor.ca/html/products.php?id=68 if you're interested click on the research tab....
4)I take the one of IH-regimen, but this should be fine
5)For what purpose again?
6)I buy the biotin from country life, they come in 5mg as well. Cutler says biotin helps reducing the effect of thalium toxicity...
x) Don't know about the rest, never used them.