omega fatty acids

anyone seen this patent before? its quite old.
pretty intresting to think omega fatty acids can regrow hair

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/EP0309086.html

is there any harm in men taking evening primrose oil?

gutted - No harm at all.

sorry to bump this, but I think we should go deeper into this. Could this explain why asians and eskimos rarely go bald? A perfect fatty acids balance. I know a bunch of those fatty acids reduce DHT/5AR but would that effect wear off once you stop taking fatty acids even if you took them for 10 years? Wouldn't your body eventually just start producing less of 5AR/DHT naturally due to years of fatty acids consumption and gene change?

For whatever its worth on top of my diet, Omega3's is all I need to not shed hair apparently from my experience thus far it really works in my body. I stopped taking it for several months last year before I realize it was a powerful tool for me, and I shed again, but as long as I take it I don't shed, and the longer I go without a shed the thicker my hair fills in so I wont drop it anymore...I'm doing a lot of additional things now that probably makes it so I don't require the omega3's as much but just saying.

which omega fatty acids are you taking?

moby wrote:sorry to bump this, but I think we should go deeper into this. Could this explain why asians and eskimos rarely go bald? A perfect fatty acids balance. I know a bunch of those fatty acids reduce DHT/5AR but would that effect wear off once you stop taking fatty acids even if you took them for 10 years? Wouldn't your body eventually just start producing less of 5AR/DHT naturally due to years of fatty acids consumption and gene change?

The experiments where they inhibited the 5 alpha reductase enzymes were the fatty acids in the FREE FORM. In natural sources the acids would be esterfied and not freeform and their chemical activity would be different.

A lot of asians are also genetic equol producers.

LawOfThelema wrote:
A lot of asians are also genetic equol producers.

you're misunderstood what equol producer means. To produce equol, you have to consume soy. If you don't consume soy, you won't produce equol no matter if you're a producer or not.

That's my point with everything in most of your regimens. If you have to use something "forever" to maintain its effect, I'm not interested in it. My goal is to fix problems that are causing baldness, rather than just trying to patch it up with a bunch of bandages.

I bet LONG TERM omega 3 consumption would make you naturally produce less 5AR and less DHT and make your AR less sensitive even once you come off of omega 3

It means that those with a certain genotype upon consumption of soy will convert the isoflavone daidzein into s-equol. Not everyone is capable of the conversion even upon consumption of soy.

What are fatty acids in the "FREE FORM"? And are they healthy?

it means that the fatty acid isn't bound to another compound.

you could order them from a chemical supply company, but it wouldn't be cheap.

if you know organic chemistry you could make your own.

though typically in natural form they would be bound, you could probably find some natural sources where it is free form -- e.g.: http://www.graminex.com/graminex/file/13_an_analytical_study_on_fatty_acids_in_pollen_extract.pdf

so how exactly do fatty acids change the way androgens interact with scalp hair? That patent was very vague. Anyone care to share their theories?

moby wrote:so how exactly do fatty acids change the way androgens interact with scalp hair? That patent was very vague. Anyone care to share their theories?

Aiding or reducing chronic inflammation depending which were talking about. The inflammation could be caused and/or made worse by the androgens in combination with other factors. A possible cycle of self perpetrating low grade inflammation due to the body not having the tools to suppress it because of a lack of the correct ratio of these fatty acids , thats my guess.

what omega 3 are you using j987

You have to becareful when getting omega 3s from fish oil for example because it is so easy to oxidize and go rancid which would make it worst then not having it at all. I've read kirrill oil is more stable but can't say for sure, still looking at it. Some dieticians say eating fish is enough efas for the body but this probably goes for people not suffering from hair loss, dont know.

gg4545 wrote:what omega 3 are you using j987

Ive used mercola krill, and carlson fish oil , and my vitamin D from natural factors has 200mg flax oil.
I hear the scare in fish oil, but the one ive been using works for me. Its dulled and eliminated my wisdom tooth pain for the past
year also btw so hey i stick with it. Its effectiveness is possibly capable because of my diet also, my dosage varies.

I’ve been taking sacha inchi seed oil for the last few months, mainly because I can’t get krill oil, or even fish oil for that matter, where I live and sacha inchi is readily available here in South America and also relatively cheap. Its grown wildly in the amazon and the oil is cold pressed from the seeds. The seeds and oil are rich in fatty acids and protein, significantly more than other oilseed plants, even fish oil. It includes a precursor of Omega 3, and also 6 and 9, plus it contains vit A and E alpha-tocopherol. It appears to be a good, if not better, alternative.

Just including a little more info on sacha inchi... I guess it's more commonly known as inca peanut in north america.

anyway - english version of wikipedia, with limited data: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plukenetia_volubilis
and the spanish version, which has the relative composition: http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plukenetia_volubilis. Just scroll down to the tables if you don't speak spanish, they're self explanatory.