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Post  Jdp710 Sun Jun 20, 2021 7:11 am

CausticSymmetry wrote:

It's been really apparent to me how the media no longer pretends to be objective.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/55UKwFXDZZdj/

There are about 2 dozen similar issues that the US apologized for.  I use to have a list saved on my computer. They stopped apologizing in the mid 90’s and everything swept under the rug.  

And I’m sure you’re aware of the initial outbreak among the gay community with AIDS as well as gulf war syndrome from first iraq war which spread amongst the immediate families.  Shell shock from WWI.  

The shingles vaccine is among the most dangerous vaccine.

I use to warn of the extreme dangers of the frequencies from WiFi, cell phone use and similar really altering the mind.  They were specifically put on that band to alter people’s mind.  An advanced flouridation technique.  Now decades later we now see the effect it had on gen y and z especially. Their mental health. Not to mention social media, scrolling down effect and others all for dopamine.

I don’t think people are going to die en masse from covid vaccine but I do think it will alter people’s ability to think which is what the gov’t has been doing for many decades. And just like cell phones and wifi signals, it will take years for it to appear.

I’d prepare for a culture collapse.  I think things will get bad.

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Post  Jdp710 Sun Jun 20, 2021 8:08 am

I have a small but extremely powerful and light and very thin neodynium magnet.  Smaller than pinky fingernail.

Frozen meat has no magnet charge.  I’m going to store sometime and will see.


I tested magnet on myself.  I’ll have to change my username to magneto.  No surprise with hemochromatosis (absorb iron genetically more than others).

I’m much worse than anything seen on youtube.  By far.  Not surprised though.

I can toss the magnet a couple inches away from bicep and it attaches.  I can even shake my arms around and it’s still attached.  

I can put magnet on forearm and attaches.

I can put magnet all over 1/3 of my body and it attaches very strong especially front part of skull where my brain is.  “Very” strong magnet.  

Liver very strong.  Heart very strong.  Couple areas below heart very strong.  

Shins bones.  

No covid vaccine for me.  No vaccines in almost 20 years.

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Post  shukov Sun Jun 20, 2021 5:08 pm

CausticSymmetry wrote:It's been really apparent to me how the media no longer pretends to be objective. They write headlines everywhere
creating a spectacle out of people simply for not getting the Quackcine, which after all is EUA (Emergency Use Authorization).

How people can believe the media are an even remotely neutral source of scientific info is beyond me.  Currently it is all about battling against vak$een "disinformation" (wrongthink).  Huge amounts of censorship going on and it's true that they aren't really pretending to be objective:

https://www.bbc.com/mediacentre/2020/trusted-news-initiative-vaccine-disinformation (list of partners near the bottom - further evidence that this is internationally or globally organised).

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Post  shaftless Mon Jun 21, 2021 1:51 am

Jdp 710...since you already probably had covid you wouldn't need a vaccine anyway. You have natural antibodies for it already. If it's comes back in the winter I might consider getting the vax. But so far I've been lucky avoiding the virus. Or maybe the chaga supplements (immune booster) I've been taking is working.

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Post  CausticSymmetry Mon Jun 21, 2021 2:27 am

Quackine jab Adverse Reactions:
EU
Deaths: 13,867
Injuries: 1,354,366

UK
Deaths: 1,332
Injuries: 949, 286

US
Deaths: 5,993
Injuries: 394,525

Deaths & Injuries, Combined total for Europe, U.K. & U.S, up to 19 June, 2021:
Deaths: 21,192
Injuries: 2,698,177

Sources:
Europe (EudraVigilance)
U.K (MHRA Yellow Card System)
U.S (CDC/ VAERS)

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Post  shaftless Mon Jun 21, 2021 2:56 am

Causticity....are you sure you're not interpreting the data wrong? LOL

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Post  shukov Mon Jun 21, 2021 5:20 am

That UK injuries figure sticks out. That's around 1 in 45 of those who've had it.

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Post  Jdp710 Mon Jun 21, 2021 5:28 am

shaftless wrote:Jdp 710...since you already probably had covid you wouldn't need a vaccine anyway. You have natural antibodies for it already. If it's comes back in the winter I might consider getting the vax. But so far I've been lucky avoiding the virus. Or maybe the chaga supplements (immune booster) I've been taking is working.

Hi shaftless,

From what I can tell, from what they say, covid will be around forever like the annual flu season.  

The covid vaccine only works for a year or so they say.  After that it stops giving protection.

So it appears everybody is going to come down with a covid variant at some point in their life.

With new information, it appears Ivermectin is very effective for whatever reason.  Probably as effective as the Pfizer vaccine with no side effects... making the vaccine completely unnecessary now.  

Only reason to get vaccine now is employers forcing employees.


Thanks for the info about chaga mushroom.  I wasn’t aware.   quercetin daily also may work or zinc and quercetin may prevent catching it.  I take this daily.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07V7CGYXX/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Ivermectin two doses $10 plus shipping = https://www.valleyvet.com/ct_detail.html?pgguid=4d9a49d8-394f-46b3-883c-733d88c2c257&itemguid=74a9d244-ddc4-4904-9487-ebf18beecf77&sfb=1&grp=M000&grpc=M200&grpsc=M210&sp=e&utm_content=44601&ccd=IFH003&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIxbjLiOqm8QIVjhmtBh12dg45EAQYASABEgLlsPD_BwE

I’d honestly recommend everybody have ivermectin on hand.  


That’s my strategy.  

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Post  CausticSymmetry Mon Jun 21, 2021 5:35 am

shaftless wrote:Causticity....are you sure you're not interpreting the data wrong? LOL

The sources were listed. But consider that VAERS (Va$$cine Adverse Effective Reporting System), based on
research reports only 1% of adverse reactions, so typically if we 100 X these figures from this source, the scale
is probably closer to accurate.

There's a few good reasons for this. VAERS is criminally under recording the stats because most do not know
about it, it's very difficult to enter it, and most importantly, it's discouraged.

News from controlled experiment page that "Facist-Book" is blocking (I'm banned from spreading this), so they are pretty desperate to keep the lid on this stuff.

"I want the following to be clear to all of you, scientists & citizens of all countries of the world. The so-called "sars-cov-2 genome" does not exist in reality. When virologists talk about the so-called "sars-cov-2 genome", all people in the world should know this, they talk about a theoretical model, that is. computer model.

What I have stated is a scientific fact published at a trial in Germany in a measles virus trial. Stefan Lanka won this trial:

https://www.facebook.com/controlexperiment/posts/285847596536726

This applies to all the so-called genomes that virologists talk about, of course, this also applies to the so-called "sars-cov-2 genome".

What follows soon, and what we all expect, is the submission of evidence to the public for the claim:

- The so-called "sars-cov-2 genome" does not even exist in scientific theory.

Scientific evidence for this claim has been mentioned and will soon be published by Stefan Lanka et al. and involves an eliminational control experiment. The eliminational control experiment implies the elimination of the term "viral genome" even from scientific theory.

One of the methods of refutation: Creation of "sars-cov-2 genome" from the following sequences: "Ebola", "HIV", "Measles".

In this way, the existence of any "virus" will be refuted even in scientific theory, and the term "virus" cannot be within the framework of scientific reality or scientific theory.

The only place for the anti-scientific term "virus" can be in a Hollywood production.

Long live Science!"

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Post  CausticSymmetry Mon Jun 21, 2021 6:10 pm

https://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/european-plans-vaccine-passports-were-place-20-months-prior-pandemic-coincidence

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Post  Jdp710 Tue Jun 22, 2021 5:53 am

CausticSymmetry wrote:https://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/european-plans-vaccine-passports-were-place-20-months-prior-pandemic-coincidence

Quote from link above “With global drug and vaccine sales already forecast to reach $1.5 trillion this year, pharmaceutical companies and their investors are salivating at the prospect of vaccine passports becoming mandatory worldwide.”

Quote from twitter:

“No one is going on holiday, ever !! They like us to be cooped up like little chickens, jabbing us at will.”

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Post  CausticSymmetry Tue Jun 22, 2021 11:51 am

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Orthomolecular Medicine News Service, June 21, 2021

Resolving "Long-Haul C0V!D" and Va((ine Toxicity: Neutralizing the Spike Protein
Commentary by Thomas E. Levy, MD, JD

(OMNS June 21, 2021) Although the mainstream media outlets might have you believe otherwise, the vaccines that continue to be administered for the C0V!D p@ndemic are emerging as very substantial sources of morbidity and mortality themselves. While the degree to which these negative outcomes of the C0V!D vaccines can be debated, there is no question that enough disease and death have already occurred to warrant cessation of the administration of these vaccines until additional, completely scientifically-based research can examine the balance between its now clear-cut side effects versus its potential (and still not yet clearly proven) ability to prevent new C0V!D infections.

Nevertheless, enough va((inations have already been administered to warrant concern that a new "pandemic" of illness and death may well be emerging from the side effects that continue to be documented in steadily increasing numbers. The vaccine-induced "culprit" that is now receiving most of the attention and is the focus of much new research is the C0V!D virus fragment known as the spike protein. Its physiological impact appears to be doing far more harm than good (C0V!D antibody induction), and its manner of introduction appears to be fueling its ongoing replication with a continuing presence inside the body for an indefinite length of time.

The physical appearance of the C0V!D virus can been depicted as a central sphere of viral protein surrounded completely by spear-like appendages. Known as spike proteins, they are very analogous to the quills surrounding a porcupine. And just as the porcupine stabs its victim, these spike proteins penetrate into cell membranes throughout the body. After this penetration, protein-dissolving enzymes are activated, the cell membrane breaks down, the viral sphere enters the cytoplasm through this membrane breach, and the metabolism of the cell is subsequently "hijacked" to manufacture more viral particles. These spike proteins are the focus of a great deal of ongoing research examining vaccine side effects (Belouzard et al., 2012; Shang et al., 2020).

The spike protein first attaches to ACE2 (angiotensin converting enzyme 2) receptors in the cell membranes (Pillay, 2020). This initial binding step is vital to triggering the subsequent sequence of events that brings the virus inside the cell. When this binding is blocked by competition or prompt enough displacement with an appropriate therapeutic agent, the virus cannot enter the cell, the infectious process is effectively stopped, and the immune defenses of the body are freed to mop up, metabolize, and eliminate the viral pathogens, or just the spike protein alone if free and no longer attached to a viral particle.

Although ACE2 is found in many different cells throughout the body, it is especially noteworthy to realize that it is the initial target bound by coronavirus on the epithelial cells lining the airways after pathogen inhalation (Hoffmann et al., 2020). ACE2 expres​sion(concentration) is also especially high on lung alveolar epithelial cells (Alifano et al., 2020). This cell membrane-bound virus can then begin the process that eventually results in the severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS) seen in clinically-advanced C0V!D infections (Perrotta et al., 2020; Saponaro et al., 2020). The SARS presentation manifests most clearly when the degree of oxidative stress in the lungs is very elevated. This stage of C0V!D infection-related extreme oxidative stress is often referred to in the literature as a cytokine storm, and left unchecked this invariably leads to death (Hu et al., 2021).

Increasing concern has focused on the continued presence of the spike protein in the blood by itself, unattached to a virion, following C0V!D vaccination. Supposedly intended to initiate an immune response to the entire virus particle, the spike protein injections are disseminating throughout the body rather than staying put in the upper arm at the vaccine site while the immune response to it evolves. Furthermore, it also appears that these circulating spike proteins can enter cells on their own and replicate themselves without attached virus particles. This not only wreaks havoc inside those cells, it helps to assure the indefinite presence of the spike protein throughout the body.

It has also been suggested that large amounts of spike protein are just binding ACE2 receptors and not proceeding any further into the cell, effectively blocking or disabling normal ACE2 function in a given tissue. Additionally, when the spike protein binds a cell wall and "stops" there, the spike protein serves as a hapten (antigen) which can then initiate an autoimmune (antibody or antibody-like) response to the cell itself, rather than to the virus particle to which it is usually attached. Depending on the cell types to which such spike proteins bind, a wide variety of diseases with autoimmune qualities can result.

Finally, another very worrisome property of the spike protein which alone would be of great concern is that the spike protein itself appears to be highly toxic. This intrinsic toxicity, along with the apparent ability of the spike protein to replicate itself indefinitely within the cells it enters, probably represents the way in which the vaccine can inflict its worst long-term damage, as the production of this toxin can continue indefinitely without other external factors at play.

In fact, the long-haul C0V!D syndrome likely represents a low-grade unresolved smoldering C0V!D infection with the same kind of spike protein persistence and clinical impact as is seen in many individuals after their C0V!D va((inations (Mendelson et al., 2020; Aucott and Rebman, 2021; Raveendran, 2021).

While the totality of the mechanisms involved are far from being completely understood and worked out, the increasing occurrence of post-vaccine clinical complications is nevertheless very clear-cut and must be addressed as rapidly and effectively as possible. By itself, the disruption of ACE2 receptor function in so many areas of the body has resulted in an array of different side effects (Ashraf et al., 2021). Such clinical complications being seen in different organ systems and areas of the body, can all occur in the following three clinical situations. All three are "spike protein syndromes," although the acute infection always includes the entirety of the virus particles along with the spike protein during the initial phases of the infection.

in an active C0V!D-19 infection, during the long-haul C0V!D syndrome, or
in response to a spike protein-laden vaccine, include the following:


Heart failure, heart injury, heart attack, myocarditis (Chen et al., 2020; Sawalha et al., 2021)
Pulmonary hypertension, pulmonary thromboembolism and thrombosis, lung tissue damage, possible pulmonary fibrosis (McDonald, 2020; Mishra et al., 2020; Pasqualetto et al., 2020; Potus et al., 2020; Dhawan et al., 2021)
Increased venous and arterial thromboembolic events (Ali and Spinler, 2021)
Diabetes (Yang et al., 2010; Lima-Martinez et al., 2021)
Neurological complications, including encephalopathy, seizures, headaches, and neuromuscular diseases. Also, hypercoagulability and stroke (AboTaleb, 2020; Bobker and Robbins, 2020; Hassett et al., 2020; Hess et al., 2020)
Gut dysbiosis, inflammatory bowel disease, and leaky gut (Perisetti et al., 2020; Zeppa et al., 2020; Hunt et al., 2021)
Kidney damage (Han and Ye, 2021)

Impaired male reproductive capacity (Seymen, 2021)
Skin lesions and other cutaneous manifestations (Galli et al., 2020)
General autoimmune diseases, autoimmune hemolytic anemia (Jacobs and Eichbaum, 2021; Liu et al., 2021)
Liver injury (Roth et al., 2021)

In structuring a clinical protocol to stop the ravages of persistent spike protein presence throughout the body, it is first important to realize that the protocol should be able to effectively treat any aspect of C0V!D infection, including those periods during active infection, after "active" infection (long-haul C0V!D), and during ongoing spike protein presence secondary to either "chronic" C0V!D infection or resulting from C0V!D va((ine administration.

As is the case with any treatment for any condition, factors of expense, availability, and patient compliance always play a role in determining what treatment a given patient will actually undergo for a given period of time. As such, no one specific protocol will be appropriate for all patients, even if the same pathology is present. Ideally, of course, the best protocol is to use all of the options discussed below. When the entirety of the protocol is not possible or feasible, which is most often the case, the combination of HP nebulization, high-dose vitamin C, and appropriately-dosed ivermectin is an excellent way to effectively address long-haul C0V!D and persistent spike protein syndromes.

Much of the rationale of the protocols is based on what is known about the spike protein and how it appears to inflict its harm. The following aspects of spike protein pathophysiology need to all be considered in crafting an optimal treatment protocol:

The ongoing production of spike protein by the vaccine-supplied mRNA into the cells for the purpose of stimulating the production of neutralizing antibodies (Khehra et al., 2021)

The binding of the spike protein, with or without an attached virion, to an ACE2 binding site on the cell wall, as an initial step to dissolving that portion of the cell wall, permitting the spike protein (and attached virus particle if present) into the cell
The binding of the spike protein to an ACE2 binding site, but just remaining bound to that site and not initiating enzymatic degradation of the cell wall, with or without an attached virion

The degree to which circulating spike protein is present in the blood and actively disseminating throughout the body
The fact that the spike protein by itself is toxic (pro-oxidant in nature) and capable of generating disease-generating oxidative stress throughout the body. This is addressed most directly by persistent and highly-dosed vitamin C.
Therapeutic Agents and Their Mechanisms
A substantial number of agents have already been found to be highly effective in resolving C0V!D infections, and even more are continuing to be discovered as worldwide research efforts have so intensely focused on curing this infection (Levy, 2020). Some of the most effective agents and their mechanisms of actions include the following:

Hydrogen peroxide (HP) nebulization. Correctly applied, this treatment eliminates acute C0V!D pathogen presence and any other chronic pathogen colonizations persisting in the aerodigestive tract. Also, a positive healing effect on the lower digestive tract is typically seen, as less pathogens and their associated pro-oxidant toxins are chronically swallowed. Stunning anecdotal evidence has already been seen documenting the ability of HP nebulization to cure even advanced C0V!D infections (20 of 20 cases) as a monotherapy. (Levy, 2021). All of the supporting research, scientific analysis, and practical suggestions on this therapy is available as a free eBook download [Rapid Virus Recovery] (Levy, 2021).
Vitamin C. Vitamin C works synergistically with HP in eradicating pathogens. It gives strong general immune support, while working to support the optimal healing of damaged cells and tissues. Clinically, it is the most potent antitoxin ever described in the literature, and no reports of it failing to neutralize any acute intoxication when administered appropriately have been published. Continuing persistent and highly-dosed vitamin C in all its forms will prove to be the most useful intervention when there is a large amount of circulating toxic spike protein present. Intravenous, regular oral forms, and liposome-encapsulated oral forms are all very useful in resolving any infection and neutralizing any toxin (Levy, 2002). There is also a polyphenol-based supplement that appears to allow some humans to synthesize their own vitamin C, which could prove to be of enormous protective and healing capacity with COVID patients and vaccine recipients. (https://formula216.com/).

Ivermectin. This agent has powerful antiparasitic and antiviral properties. Evidence indicates that ivermectin binds the ACE2 receptor site that the spike protein needs to bind to proceed with entry into the cell and the replication of viral protein (Lehrer and Rheinstein, 2020; Eweas et al., 2021). Also, under some circumstances, the binding of the spike protein to the ACE2 receptor does not activate the enzymes needed to enter the cell. Possibly, ivermectin might also competitively displace such bound spike protein from the cell walls as well when a sufficient dose is taken. It also appears that circulating spike protein can be bound up directly by ivermectin, rendering it inactive and making it accessible for metabolic processing and excretion (Saha and Raihan, 2021). Where there has been mass administration of ivermectin for parasitic diseases in Africa there has also been noted a significantly lower incidence of COVID-19 infection (Hellwig and Maia, 2021). Ivermectin is also very safe when administered appropriately (Munoz et al., 2018).
Hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) and Chloroquine (CQ). Both HCQ and CQ have been shown to be very effective agents in resolving acute COVID-19 infections. They have also both been shown to be zinc ionophores that can increase intracellular zinc levels which can then inhibit the enzyme activity needed for viral replication. However, both HCQ and CQ have also been found to block the binding of COVID virus spike proteins to the ACE2 receptors needed to initiate viral entry into the cells, giving scientific support for their utility as more directly interfering with spike protein activity before the virus ever breaches the cell (Fantini et al., 2020; Sehailia and Chemat, 2020; Wang et al., 2020).
Quercetin. Similar to HCQ and CQ, quercetin also serves as a zinc ionophore. And like HCQ and CQ, quercetin appears to also work to block the binding of COVID virus spike proteins to the ACE2 receptors, impairing spike protein-virus entry into the cell, or impairing spike protein alonef from entering the cells (Pan et al., 2020; Derosa et al., 2021). Many other phytochemicals and bioflavonoids are demonstrating this ACE2 binding capacity as well (Pandey et al., 2020; Maiti and Banerjee, 2021).

Other Bio-Oxidative Therapies. These include ozone, ultraviolet blood irradiation, and hyperbaric oxygen therapy (in addition to hydrogen peroxide and vitamin C). These three therapies are highly effective in patients with acute COVID infections. It is less clear how effective they would be for long-haul COVID syndrome and patients suffering from ongoing vaccine-generated spike protein syndromes. That is not to say, however, that all three would not prove to be just as excellent for dealing with the spike protein as with the intact virus. It just remains to be determined.
Baseline Vital Immune Support Supplementation. There are definitely hundreds, and perhaps thousands, of quality vitamin, mineral, and nutrient supplements that are all capable of making some contribution to reaching and maintaining optimal health, while minimizing the chances of contracting any kind of infectious disease. A baseline regimen of supplementation that factors in expense, overall health impact, and convenience should include vitamin C, vitamin D3, magnesium chloride (other forms good, but chloride form optimal for antiviral impact), vitamin K2, zinc, and an iodine supplement, such as Lugol's solution or iodoral. More specific guidance in dosing can be found in Appendix A of Hidden Epidemic, also available as a free eBook download (Levy, 2017). Specifics on mixing up a solution of magnesium chloride for regular supplementation are also available (Levy, 2020).
[More detail on the therapeutic agents above is available in Chapter 10 of Rapid Virus Recovery]

The suggested optimal way to deal with acute C0V!D that has evolved into long-haul C0V!D, or with symptoms consistent with the toxic effects of circulating spike protein post-vaccination, is to always eliminate any active or chronic areas of pathogen proliferation with HP nebulization. Vitamin C supplementation should be optimized at the same time. 50-gram infusions of sodium ascorbate should be administered at least several times weekly as long as there is symptomatology attributable to long-haul C0V!D and circulating spike protein. Initially, a 25-gram infusion of sodium ascorbate given three times a day should prove to be even more effective as circulating vitamin C is rapidly excreted. Oral vitamin C supplementation should be taken as well, either as several grams of liposome-encapsulated vitamin C daily, or as a teaspoon of sodium ascorbate powder several times daily. One capsule daily of Formula 216 can be added to this as well.

With the "foundation" of HP nebulization and vitamin C supplementation in place, the best prescription medicines to counter long-haul C0V!D and circulating spike protein would be with ivermectin first, and then HCQ or HQ if the clinical response is not acceptable. Dosages would need to be determined by the prescribing physician.

Along with the baseline immune support supplements noted above, quercetin, 500 to 1,000 mg daily, should be added as well.

Any and all of the above recommendations should be undertaken with the guidance of a trusted physician or other appropriately-trained health care professional.

Recap
Even as the C0V!D pandemic appears to be slowly subsiding, many individuals are now chronically ill with long-haul C0V!D and/or with the side effects of a C0V!D va((ination. It would appear that both clinical situations are primarily characterized by persistent presence of the spike protein and its negative impact on different tissues and organs.

Treatment is aimed at neutralizing the direct toxic impact of spike protein, while working to block its ability to bind the receptors needed to hijack the metabolism of the cell into making new viruses and/or more spike protein. At the same time, treatment measures are taken to assure that there is as complete an elimination of active or smoldering C0V!D infection remaining in the patient.

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Mandatory covid tests in SE China video.  

https://mobile.twitter.com/TruthAbtChina/status/1407158785605439491

Wonder if they are getting everybodies DNA?

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Jdp710 wrote:Mandatory covid tests in SE China video.  

https://mobile.twitter.com/TruthAbtChina/status/1407158785605439491

Wonder if they are getting everybodies DNA?


People here seem almost as compliant as the Chinese. Every day I wake up and wonder what Covid BS will I see today. I'm still in the shrinking group who never taken a test, wore a mask or got a vak$ine.

Regarding the original topic (detox) I've seen quite a few mentions of Pine Needle Tea. Not sure how legit it is though.

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shukov wrote:
Jdp710 wrote:Mandatory covid tests in SE China video.  

https://mobile.twitter.com/TruthAbtChina/status/1407158785605439491

Wonder if they are getting everybodies DNA?


People here seem almost as compliant as the Chinese.  Every day I wake up and wonder what Covid BS will I see today.  I'm still in the shrinking group who never taken a test, wore a mask or got a vak$ine.

Regarding the original topic (detox) I've seen quite a few mentions of Pine Needle Tea.  Not sure how legit it is though.

Yeah, it’s very bad over here too. Besides covid mess, I spoke with someone I knew for 25 years. Reasonable person. She’s convinced that the racist white people in the US are going to... she didn’t finish her sentence but I’m pretty sure I know what she was going to say. It’s what they say on TV. White people are going to revolt and do bad things if we could.

I was honestly very shocked. How people can be brainwashed.

All my life I tried educating to help people. Try to show people all sides of an argument so they can make a decision. Teach them how to fish rather than just giving them the answers. Like what CS does on this forum. The past few years I found that was a complete failure. I helped almost nobody longterm.

I’m left shocked and disillusioned. But I know there are still some awake and good people out there. Gives me hope there are like minded people in the world.

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Post  Jdp710 Wed Jun 23, 2021 9:09 am

10 years ago I saw an old study that showed after 4 or so generations of cats not getting enzymes in their food, the cats would get ill and die.  

I think something similar might be happening regarding the food and water with us humans.  It’s the only thing that’s making sense to me.  And the stress is just showing how bad things are.  

While this video is about birth control and how it alters you thinking process, I think something similar is going on.  How people aren’t thinking normal anymore.  

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xQ5aW4qmfgQ

And while people talk about the collapse, I’m more worried about a culture collapse.

Hope this helps
Sorry for being off topic

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Post  shaftless Wed Jun 23, 2021 9:39 am

I can see that might happen in places like prisons where the food is controlled for the inmates...but normally we all have the freedom to eat as healthy as we want. Vegetarian, vegan, caveman...whatever we want. We can even grow our own food too if space allows.

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Post  Jdp710 Wed Jun 23, 2021 12:53 pm

Most of the food people eat is not just unhealthy but even poisons us.  
It’s sad just how bad our food really is and the water and such.  After a couple generations maybe us humans lose our minds before we die.  Kinda like that cat experiment I mentioned before. Takes a couple generations.
Here is just one example regarding chips and cereals.




“Breakfast Cereals and the Rat Experiments
THE RAT EXPERIMENTS

In his book Fighting the Food Giants, Paul Stitt further describes research indicating that the extrusion process of grains can release neurotoxins. A 1942 unpublished experiment, from a cereal company (locked away in the company’s file cabinet) is the smoking gun. The experiment was of 4 sets of rats each given a special diet.

1. group received plain whole wheat grains, water, synthetic vitamins and minerals.
2. group received puffed wheat (an extruded cereal), water and the same nutrients.
3. was given water and white sugar.
4. was given nothing but water and synthetic nutrients.

Group one rats lived a year on this diet. The rats with water and vitamins (#4)  lived about 2 months. Rats fed the white sugar and water diet (#3, lived about a month.

However the rats fed puffed wheat along with vitamins, water with grains (#2), died within two weeks.

These results suggest that puffed wheat may contain toxic substances. The process of puffing creates changes within the wheat structure that may be producing toxic chemical substances.

Rat Experiment 2

Another unpublished Rat experiment from 1960, had similar results. Researchers at the University of Michigan in Ann Arbor were given eighteen laboratory rats. These were divided into three groups:

1. one group received corn flakes and water;

2. group was given the cardboard box that the cornflakes came in and water;

3. the control group received rat chow and water.

The rats in the control group remained in good health throughout the experiment. The rats eating the box became lethargic and eventually died of malnutrition. The rats receiving the corn flakes and water died before the rats that were eating the box! (The first box rat died the day the last cornflake rat died.) Furthermore, before death, the cornflakes-eating rats developed aberrant behavior, threw fits, bit each other and finally went into convulsions.

Autopsy revealed dysfunction of the pancreas, liver and kidneys and degeneration of the nerves of the spine, all signs of insulin shock.

The startling conclusion of this study was that there was more nourishment in the box than in the cornflakes. This experiment was designed as a joke, but the results were far from funny.

You might want to rethink your use of these highly processed breakfast cereals as your morning go to energy source. In future post we will share more suitable breakfast ideas and meal plans but for now skip the cereal and eat the box instead! Not really….”

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Post  CausticSymmetry Wed Jun 23, 2021 1:01 pm

Jdp710 wrote:10 years ago I saw an old study that showed after 4 or so generations of cats not getting enzymes in their food, the cats would get ill and die.  

I think something similar might be happening regarding the food and water with us humans.  It’s the only thing that’s making sense to me.  And the stress is just showing how bad things are.  

While this video is about birth control and how it alters you thinking process, I think something similar is going on.  How people aren’t thinking normal anymore.  

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xQ5aW4qmfgQ

And while people talk about the collapse, I’m more worried about a culture collapse.

Hope this helps
Sorry for being off topic

I remember that rat study. I noticed my body can't seem to handle those cereals anymore.

Pottenger's Cats A Study in Nutrition

http://www.ectownusa.net/mineralcountynevada/docs/Potenger's%20Cats%20book%20review.pdf

Cats that ate 100% raw food were the only healthy ones.

I tell people who are interested (most of them are not) that if they want to stop going to the veterinarian
and getting financially wrecked - They can spare their dog or cat from getting all the slurry of diseases most
pets do by feeding them 100% raw meat (including the bone and all the giblets).

The cost upfront is more than buying convenient kibble, but the long term savings, plus the pet living double
the lifespan might be worth it.

A couple things comes to mind about some of the toxins. I grew up in Commie-4-nia, and lucky for me, did rarely
used that fluoride and or water supplies were not poisoned with fluoride until 1996, (it displaces things like lithium and iodine required for optimal health). Our 3rd eye (pineal gland), typically gets calcified by usual time of death (probably the all the fluoride we get subjected to).

Since the mid-90's or about, glyphosate has systematically poisoned huge populations like nothing before. There's Part 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 on Pathway to Modern Diseases, all based on just that one thing, glyphosate.

A short introduction from part 5:

"Glyphosate, a synthetic amino acid and analogue of glycine, is the most widely used biocide on the planet. Its presence in food for human consumption and animal feed is ubiquitous. Epidemiological studies have revealed a strong correlation between the increasing incidence in the United States of a large number of chronic diseases and the increased use of glyphosate herbicide on corn, soy and wheat crops. Glyphosate, acting as a glycine analogue, may be mistakenly incorporated into peptides during protein synthesis. A deep search of the research literature has revealed a number of protein classes that depend on conserved glycine residues for proper function"

I'm convinced on just one toxin alone is the primarily reason for gluten sensitivity and most food allergies (with some va((ines of course for eggs and peanuts and destruction to the gut barrier).

BPA, plastics estrogen like resins are just as bad as the small amounts of birth control pills that are found
in the environment.

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Post  Jdp710 Wed Jun 23, 2021 1:59 pm

Good post CS.  Also, thanks for that study on the cats.  That’s the one.  

People may wonder why I brought this up but obviously each new generation has devolved.  Most gen z say they are depressed, anxiety, etc..  Each new generation worse than the last.  People no longer think like they use to.  Just like that video regarding birth control pills and I’m sure BPA and plastics would alter behavior in a similar manner.  

It’s like that rat study.  A quote “the cornflakes-eating rats developed aberrant behavior, threw fits, bit each other and finally went into convulsions.”


What I’m trying to say since covid, it has revealed just how messed up people are psychologically.  There is an obvious issue going on with a good percentage of the population no longer being normal.


Quote from the cat study

“Cooked-meat-fed cats show much more irritability. Some females are even dangerous to handle and three are named Tiger, Cobra, and Rattlesnake because of their proclivity for biting and scratching. The males, on the other hand, are more docile, often to the point of being unaggressive, and their sex interest is slack or perverted. In essence, there is evidence of a role reversal with the female cats
becoming the aggressors and the male cats becoming passive as well as evidence of increasing abnormal activities between the same sexes.”

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Post  shaftless Wed Jun 23, 2021 3:15 pm

You guys have a point. It's pretty hard to avoid processed food. Even farmers use a lot of chemicals on their crops. Yet the average life expectancy in the US has been steadily growing...that is...until these last couple of yrs. It has dropped from 78 yrs in 2018 to 77 lately. But covid is probably to blame for that. Still, I'm kinda glad I don't like puffed wheat cereals.

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Post  shukov Fri Jun 25, 2021 6:19 am

Jdp710 wrote:Yeah, it’s very bad over here too.  Besides covid mess, I spoke with someone I knew for 25 years.  Reasonable person.  She’s convinced that the racist white people in the US are going to... she didn’t finish her sentence but I’m pretty sure I know what she was going to say.  It’s what they say on TV.  White people are going to revolt and do bad things if we could.  

I was honestly very shocked.  How people can be brainwashed.  

All my life I tried educating to help people.  Try to show people all sides of an argument so they can make a decision.  Teach them how to fish rather than just giving them the answers.  Like what CS does on this forum.  The past few years I found that was a complete failure.  I helped almost nobody longterm.  

I’m left shocked and disillusioned.  But I know there are still some awake and good people out there.  Gives me hope there are like minded people in the world.

There's a quote attributed to Voltaire along the lines of "If you can get someone to believe an absurdity then you get can get them to commit an atrocity." I think we've seen an increasing amount of people believing absurdities over the past 5-10 years. Some people think it's funny but it could potentially turn sinister.

I don't mean the way your friend thinks obviously. But if the TV encouraged something bad a depressing number of people would go along with it. A more likely target, in my opinion, is the "non-compliant". Right now anyone against wholesale experimental "vax$ination" is being demonised by sections of the press and even politicians. I've seen comments treating unvax$inated as "dirty", 2nd class or even sub-human on a daily basis for the past few months. We know where that slippery slope can lead.

The situation is bad but I do believe the "awake" are very slowly but surely growing. There have been two large (100k+) protests in London in the past few weeks - unreported by the news, of course. I hear there is another planned for Saturday.

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Post  shukov Fri Jun 25, 2021 6:44 am

CausticSymmetry wrote:I tell people who are interested (most of them are not) that if they want to stop going to the veterinarian
and getting financially wrecked - They can spare their dog or cat from getting all the slurry of diseases most
pets do by feeding them 100% raw meat (including the bone and all the giblets).

My family got a cat around 20 years ago. For the first 8 or 9 years she was on the dry food but eventually developed problems. Digestion, lethargy, she even lost her voice for weeks. Vet suspected hypothyroid. Well I'm not a vet but I did a bit of googling and suggested changing her diet to meat & fish. Within a short time she recovered and had another 10+ years of good health and no vet bills. She's still alive and although obviously slowing down is in reasonable health for a 21-year-old cat.

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Post  Jdp710 Wed Jun 30, 2021 7:23 am

Thanks to Ivan

RESEARCH: Dandelion leaf extract blocks spike proteins from binding to the ACE2 cell surface receptor
“The water-based dandelion extract, taken from the plant’s dried leaves, was effective against spike protein D614 and a host of mutant strains, including D614G, N501Y, K417N and E484K.”

“dandelion extract could prove to prevent infections altogether, by blocking the precise channel by which the spike proteins attach and cause viral replication.

Other natural compounds have been investigated using molecular docking studies. Nobiletin is a flavonoid isolated from citrus peels. Neohesperidin, a derivative of hesperetin, is a flavanone glycoside also found in citrus fruits. Glycyrrhizin is a molecular compound extracted from licorice root. All three of these natural substances also block spike proteins from binding to ACE2 receptors. Hydroalcoholic pomegranate peel extract blocks the spike protein at the ACE2 receptor with 74 percent efficacy. When its principal constituents were tested separately, punicalagin was 64 percent effective, and ellagic acid was 36% percent effective.

These natural compounds (along with dandelion extract) can be readily mass produced, combined and deployed as preventative medicine for all future spike protein variants. These herbs are generally recognized as safe, and there are no known cases of overdose with dandelion leaf extract. According to the European Scientific Cooperative on Phytotherapy, the recommended dosage of dandelion leaf is 4–10 grams steeped in hot water, up to three times per day.”
https://www.newstarget.com/2021-06-28-dandelion-leaf-extract-blocks-spike-proteins-binding-to-ace2-receptor.html

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Post  hairmaniac Wed Jun 30, 2021 9:52 am

Great thread with lots of good information here guys...thank you!!

Jdp710 wrote:Thanks to Ivan

RESEARCH: Dandelion leaf extract blocks spike proteins from binding to the ACE2 cell surface receptor
“The water-based dandelion extract, taken from the plant’s dried leaves, was effective against spike protein D614 and a host of mutant strains, including D614G, N501Y, K417N and E484K.”

“dandelion extract could prove to prevent infections altogether, by blocking the precise channel by which the spike proteins attach and cause viral replication.

Other natural compounds have been investigated using molecular docking studies. Nobiletin is a flavonoid isolated from citrus peels. Neohesperidin, a derivative of hesperetin, is a flavanone glycoside also found in citrus fruits. Glycyrrhizin is a molecular compound extracted from licorice root. All three of these natural substances also block spike proteins from binding to ACE2 receptors. Hydroalcoholic pomegranate peel extract blocks the spike protein at the ACE2 receptor with 74 percent efficacy. When its principal constituents were tested separately, punicalagin was 64 percent effective, and ellagic acid was 36% percent effective.

These natural compounds (along with dandelion extract) can be readily mass produced, combined and deployed as preventative medicine for all future spike protein variants. These herbs are generally recognized as safe, and there are no known cases of overdose with dandelion leaf extract. According to the European Scientific Cooperative on Phytotherapy, the recommended dosage of dandelion leaf is 4–10 grams steeped in hot water, up to three times per day.”
https://www.newstarget.com/2021-06-28-dandelion-leaf-extract-blocks-spike-proteins-binding-to-ace2-receptor.html

So, if I get it right, could dandelion prevent the damage done from the v4cc1n3 or the ""v1rus""?

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