Volunteers needed for Hairbed - based on Detumescence Therapy

According to Detumescence Therapy (http://omicsonline.org/2155-9554/2155-9554-3-138.php)
"The applied pressure loading on the head during sleeping in bed (Figure 5) is believed to be a preventive measure for the bending/thickening/hardening of human scalps in daily growth."


To apply pressure on top of scalp when sleeping, I propose the following bed design. This should help prevent hair loss and help re-grow hair.


"An adult human head cut off around vertebra C3, with no hair, weighs somewhere between 4.5 and 5kg, constituting around 8% of the whole body mass." (Reference : Yee, Danny. Average Human Head Weight. Danny Yee. May-June 2006.)
As pressure P on scalp is due to Head weight, based on above data we can calculate angle theta, which comes out to be 4.58 degrees – A slight tilt is required. (Its exaggerated in the figure)
Rollers make sure that your body weight component mgsing@ is balanced by pressure P on top of head.

Anyone ready to try this ? I will try to get it made.

I believe the opposite to be true - that mechanical overload from pillow compression actually is a factor in hairloss. We know this is true because of a condition known as pressure alopecia, which has an almost identical pathophysiology to pressure ulcers. I also know from experience that pillow compression inflames cells and can cause hair to thin.

The diagram is showing the pressure points of the scalp, but is not showing another pressure point (the temples), which are normally first to recede. Therefore, if pressure was so beneficial, then the temples (and crown) would be immune to baldness.

even if we knew that a tight scalp was the cause of mpb, and keeping it loose treats it (which we dont) i dont think putting yourself in that position essentially making the scalp loose for up to a whole nights sleep at a time (up to 6-10 hrs depending on how long u sleep) is a good idea.

what if it stops blood circulating through the scalp. might be fine for 10 minutes during a massage, but for 8 hrs? could kill tissue, as well as follicles. we know that tying a string aroudn your finger will eventually kill it requiring amputation. what if the pressure cuts off blood supply.

also what about your neck and back. you could wake up in alot of pain, and the rollers seem quite dangerous to me, u could roll forward then slam baack onto your neck.

now i dont believe in DT. but even if i did, i wouldnt recommend this. doing massage to make the scalp loose is one thing, but to force it to be loose by staying in this position for a whole nights sleep, seems dangerous to me, and therefore, i have to warn you against doing it. i hope someone else agrees with me because i dont want to see anyone get hurt for the sake of an experimental treatment.

Xenon wrote:
The diagram is showing the pressure points of the scalp, but is not showing another pressure point (the temples), which are normally first to recede. Therefore, if pressure was so beneficial, then the temples (and crown) would be immune to baldness.

I dont understand.. Where is pressure on temples (and crown) when sleeping ?
Also we almost never have baldness on sides - which are pressurized every night due to our head's weight.

rofl wrote:what if it stops blood circulating through the scalp.  might be fine for 10 minutes during a massage, but for 8 hrs?  could kill tissue, as well as follicles.  we know that tying a string aroudn your finger will eventually kill it requiring amputation.  what if the pressure cuts off blood supply.
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If you read my post carefully, calculations suggests a Theta / inclination value of 4.5 degrees.
In other words, A 6 ft long bed would need one side raised by 15 cms.
For such a small inclination - Kill , amputate.. strong words!

Also I tried to edit the title (but couldn't) , asking ppl to volunteer is not right I know, my apologies. I just wanted to know community's opinion on this idea.

zn wrote:

Xenon wrote:
The diagram is showing the pressure points of the scalp, but is not showing another pressure point (the temples), which are normally first to recede. Therefore, if pressure was so beneficial, then the temples (and crown) would be immune to baldness.

I dont understand.. Where is pressure on temples (and crown) when sleeping ?
Also we almost never have baldness on sides - which are pressurized every night due to our head's weight.

I've covered this extensively and quite recently, also (check out my sleep position thread). BUT when we place our heads on our pillows, I'm sure everyone will agree with me that the temples press firmly against the pillows, as does the crown (when we sleep on our backs). This is precisely why I devised certain sleeping positions so that the temples and crown don't press against the pillows during sleep.

And you ask why the lower back and sides are not prone to balding. 1. In this very area there are muscles and plenty of adipose tissue which act as cushions to stop the follicles here pressing against the solid skull bones. Everywhere else through out the galea lacks this cushioning (look up temporalis and occiptalis muscles). 2. these follicles have a lower number of androgen receptors (again, refer to my sleep position thread)..

An excellent idea. This should provide a very slight addition to blood flow and as for it being dangerous I can't see a 4.5 degree difference being enough to cause head amputation. In the wild, you can bet our ancient ancestors rarely found perfectly balanced soil to rest on...

lol, talk about taking something out of context. i never said anything about the head being amputated, lmao.

This is a very bad idea.. I have a very bad tendency to move up when I sleep, so sometime I would end up like the diagram you show, and my neck was not so happy.

Xenon wrote:

zn wrote:

Xenon wrote:
The diagram is showing the pressure points of the scalp, but is not showing another pressure point (the temples), which are normally first to recede. Therefore, if pressure was so beneficial, then the temples (and crown) would be immune to baldness.

I dont understand.. Where is pressure on temples (and crown) when sleeping ?
Also we almost never have baldness on sides - which are pressurized every night due to our head's weight.

I've covered this extensively and quite recently, also (check out my sleep position thread). BUT when we place our heads on our pillows,  I'm sure everyone will agree with me that the temples press firmly against the pillows, as does the crown (when we sleep on our backs). This is precisely why I devised certain sleeping positions so that the temples and crown don't press against the pillows during sleep.

And you ask why the lower back and sides are not prone to balding. 1. In this very area there are muscles and plenty of adipose tissue which act as cushions to stop the follicles here pressing against the solid skull bones. Everywhere else through out the galea lacks this cushioning (look up temporalis and occiptalis muscles). 2. these follicles have a lower number of androgen receptors (again, refer to my sleep position thread)..

Im ordering this, I think this type of pillow would be perfect for sleeping with your temple and crown hanging out.
http://www.amazon.com/Newpoint-100-Percent-Cotton-Neckroll-Pillow/dp/B001TH8M9O/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1426445306&sr=8-1&keywords=round+pillow

Im guessing this your ideal sleeping position?
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41476R39Y3L.jpg

Xenon wrote:I believe the opposite to be true - that mechanical overload from pillow compression actually is a factor in hairloss. We know this is true because of a condition known as pressure alopecia, which has an almost identical pathophysiology to pressure ulcers. I also know from experience that pillow compression inflames cells and can cause hair to thin.

The diagram is showing the pressure points of the scalp, but is not showing another pressure point (the temples), which are normally first to recede. Therefore, if pressure was so beneficial, then the temples (and crown) would be immune to baldness.

I second this view (body should be elevated from the head, not at the foot).