Carbonic acid accumulation and hairloss

*note: The following information was originally a post of mine, but I think it may be worth creating a thread from it.

DHT can cause a whole range of problems. For one, when the cell utilizes more oxygen, a biproduct of this oxygen usage is waste carbon dioxide (or carbon acid gas). If it's true that DHT causes some sort of obstruction within the cell wall or causes it to contract (as I believe it does), then it may be true that the cell has difficulty releasing these carbon acid gases (esp when the heart rate slows down), and they cause an inflammatory effect.

Carbon acid gases are one of the main culprits in the onset of MPB, but this only occurs if DHT is present within the cell (and if there is an accumulation of waste matter in capillaries).

"Respiratory acidosis is a medical condition in which decreased ventilation (hypoventilation) causes increased blood carbon dioxide concentration and decreased pH (a condition generally called acidosis)."

"Carbon dioxide is produced constantly as the body's cells respire, and this CO2 will accumulate rapidly if the lungs do not adequately expel it through alveolar ventilation. Alveolar hypoventilation thus leads to an increased PaCO2 (called hypercapnia). The increase in PaCO2 in turn decreases the PaCO2/HCO3− ratio and decreases pH."

"Metabolism rapidly generates a large quantity of volatile acid (H2CO3) and nonvolatile acid. The metabolism of fats and carbohydrates leads to the formation of a large amount of CO2. The CO2 combines with H2O to form carbonic acid (H2CO3). The lungs normally excrete the volatile fraction through ventilation, and acid accumulation does not occur. A significant alteration in ventilation that affects elimination of CO2 can cause a respiratory acid-base disorder. The PaCO2 is maintained within a range of 39-41 mm Hg in normal states."

So, when there is an issue with the cells of the galea releasing carbonic acids, acidosis forms within the cell and inflammation results. And as I previously stated, DHT seems to be a major culprit in obstructing the release of these acids.

This is why walking is supremely important in order to clear these acids from the galea, as gentle exercise does not produce as much metabolic acids as strenuous exercise does. Also, it's very important that you get plenty of sleep because tiredness / exhaustion causes oxygen debt to cells, which leads to further C02 acidosis within the follicles of the galea. When oxygen levels are restored, then blood alkalinity is restored and ph levels becomes balanced.

I must also add, until DHT levels are naturally lowered, then the follicles of the galea will always be susceptible to C02 acid accumulation.

Other factors which prevent the release of C02 acids are: wearing tight or heavy headwear, as well as compressing susceptible areas of the galea on a pillow when we go to sleep. This is why I make sure that I sleep with my galea hanging over the pillow edge at night. When you think about how long the galea is pressed against the pillow (around 8 hours on average), and consider the fact that the head is the heaviest part of the body, then it makes sense that cells containing DHT will have problems releasing carbonic acids.

Also, if you sleep in a poorly ventilated room, then you will be breathing in the C02 you have breathed out, and more C02 acids will form in the blood. So it is very important that you have adequate ventilation in your room when you sleep because breathing in C02 for an average of 8 hours is highly detrimental.

In regards to the expanded skull / hairloss theory, I believe that an expanded skull can contribute to a tightened galea, and thus an accumulation of DHT within the cell, plus difficulty in expelling C02 acids.

Xenon wrote:
This is why walking is supremely important in order to clear these acids from the galea,

What about running?

@theseeker

It depends upon how much DHT is in the cell, and how much it obstructs the release of C02. Running does cause heavy respiration (dependent upon your fitness levels), and as a result, you will tend to produce more C02 acids. What I'd suggest you do is, after your run, do not immediately sit down, otherwise your heart rate will begin to slow down and so will blood circulation. As a result, massive amounts of C02 acids will accumulate in the cells. So instead, walk around for a while so that the C02 acids can be expelled from the lungs (preferably do this outside where the oxygen levels are higher).

And if I may just reiterate: make sure you get plenty of sleep *in a well ventilated room*, because if your cells are in oxygen debt through too much strenuous exercise / exhaustion, then acidosis will occur and you will experience inflammation in your scalp.

Oxygen levels need to be restored in order to prevent acidosis in the blood.

"The metabolism of fats and carbohydrates leads to the formation of a large amount of CO2"

This can be compared to the way fire requires oxygen in order to burn something, and smoke is the waste gas emission from the burning of materials. C02 is the same in that respect and is detrimental to cells.

So, the more you exercise, and the more oxygen you use to metabolize carbs / fats, the more C02 you will produce. The issue occurs when C02 acids cannot be released efficiently from the cells, and DHT is largely the culprit in causing this, thus acidosis occurs.

Please excuse me for cluttering the boards, but here's some more things which can cause C02 build up:

1) over production of adrenaline. This hormone acts as a vasoconstrictor to skin cells, and as a vasodilator to the heart and skeletal muscles. Adrenaline causes the errector pilli muscle to contract and thus causes the follicle to stand on end (hence, goose bumps), which gradually cuts off oxygen to cells and causes a build up of C02.

2) Continuous exposure to cold temperatures. Basically, when the body drops below the normal temp of 37C / 98F, then the erector pilli muscle causes the follicle to stand on end, so the skin can retain heat in order for the body to return to its normal temperature. As a result of this muscle / follicle contraction, oxygen levels are lowered and C02 builds up, and acidosis results.

But I also reiterate, these problems are exacerbated by the obstructive / contracting effects of DHT within the cell.

This also adds another very important piece of the puzzle to the suggestion of elevated body heat playing a role in pattern baldness. I mentioned the other day that when I wear really thick clothing, or bathrobe material such as Terry cloth, then I tend to produce lots of body heat and I experience inflammation. I realized that this may be because heat causes cells to dilate and thus more oxygen is delivered to cells. As a result, the cells begin metabolizing more energy and, as a consequence, begin producing more C02 acids. Now, if I'm relatively inactive, yet wearing thick clothing, then circulation is lowered. Consequently, massive amounts of C02 build up in cells, and this causes inflammation.

so, probably extreme exercise like bodybuilding with small breaks between sets (under one minute) and cardio workout after that (like hiit) it is not recommended?
I follow the above exercise type for the last two months and my hair looks awful, but i thought that was from vigorous brushing...

Steve, the likelihood is, inflammation is being caused by both factors. I already explained how applying intense friction to the scalp from vigorous boar brushing can cause inflammation, but inflammation can also be caused in other ways, such as the build up of carbonic acid gas.

The problem is caused by the presence of DHT within the cell -- it slows down the release of carbon acid gases.

Like I said to the seeker, if you are going to work out, then make sure that you don't immediately sit down afterwards, otherwise you wont clear the C02 acids from your scalp. Instead, walk around for a while, and I recommend you do this outside or somewhere cool.

Also, make sure that you're body is allowed to cool down, otherwise the excess body heat will keep your cells dilated and more oxygen will enter them, and they will continue burning up carbs / fats, and as a result more C02 acids will be produced. If you allow your body to cool down after a work out, then the cells will not be as dilated and not as much oxygen will enter them. Consequently less acids will be produced.

Ways of cooling down during and after a workout:

1) wear only a pair of shorts and let the sweat cool your body

2) Take a warm shower shower, then switch it to cool (but only shower when you have totally cooled down from your workout)

3) Don't wear to much thick clothing, as this will promote lots of heat which will cause your cells to dilate. *Remember, after an intensive workout, your metabolism is still racing, and your capillaries will remain dilated. Too much oxygen will cause the cells to keep utilizing energy and C02 acids will build up. You have to gradually cool down and release these acids by walking around, and I recommend you do this in a pair of shorts.

4) Don't drink too many hot drinks after your work out, as this will also cause an increase in body heat. Instead, drink something cool.

5) Make sure you get plenty of rest afterwards (after you have walked enough to reduce the acid build up). Plenty of sleep = increased oxygen / pH in blood.

In case anyone is confused here, let me just say, cells need oxygen in order to thrive; it's when they use too much oxygen to burn energy is when they produce too much carbon acids. And the reason why this is problematic for a hair loss sufferer, is because DHT slows down the release of these acids and thus inflammation results. Whereas someone who does not have this DHT build up in their cells does not have to worry about these carbon acids being released from the galea.

Also, if you want to know how to naturally lower DHT levels, then all you need to do is reduce the amount of masturbating and sex. Each time you get an erection, the prostate gland secretes enzyme 5 AR, so that testosterone can be converted into the more potent dihydrotestsoterone. DHT binds to DHT receptors in the penis and causes a massive increase in red blood cells, and the penis needs these oxygen rich cells so that it can utilize energy in order to remain erect. All anabolic steroids increase red blood cell levels, and DHT is a very powerful anabolic steroid.

Now, during sex / masturbation, heart rate increases and DHT is pumped to the scalp, especially to the temples. The hormone then enters target cells which contain receptors, i.e., the hair follicles. The more you masturbate, then the more this hormone will gradually build up within the cell wall, and it either causes the cell to contract or it has a clogging effect.

I first put this theory to the test in 2004, and after 4 months of abstinence I noticed hair regrowth. I didn't continue with the abstinence and consequently the hair that grew back began to disappear, along with more hair.

I have abstained for the past 6 months, and at month 4 i noticed regrowth again, and more hair is growing back. Also, a Croatian man who followed this advice, reported back to me after 100 days of abstinence to tell me his hair was starting to regrow, and this is because drastically reducing sex / masturbation causes DHT levels to drop. Consequently, DHT within the cell begins to clear away.

The only side effects I have so far suffered from this, is increased weight gain, but this also looks like a mix of muscle and fat. However, I have sorted this problem out by reducing calories and staying more active.

BTW I'm not telling you to give up sex, just really reduce the amount of times you do it and your DHT levels will naturally drop.

Xenon, thanks for the advices...the only thing that i was doing after workout was a protein shake drink and a hot shower...but didn't let the sweat cool my body. After that, i was walking a distance about 10 minutes for home....
About sex now...is too difficult because i'm in a new relationship and we live together...but i had read a study that says when testosterone levels increase then dht hormone reducing...is it possible?

"About sex now...is too difficult because i'm in a new relationship and we live together"

Yes, i can understand these issues, and you don't have to give up sex. I'm just saying, the more you do it, the more DHT you produce. However, I'd still advise you not to masturbate (that's if you do it, and sorry for being so personal). LOL

"...but i had read a study that says when testosterone levels increase then dht hormone reducing...is it possible?"

Well, if you think about it, if testosterone is no longer being converted into DHT, due to lowered enzyme 5 levels, then perhaps there's truth that testosterone levels do increase.

As proposed some period of time on this forum, I firmly believe that hair loss (MPB) is principally caused by hypothyroidism. All of the basic indicators that are used to determine hair loss risk factors are elevated in this under diagnosed condition (standard tests are woefully inaccurate). Take note that this condition results in an increased level of carbon dioxide in the circulation.

So when you went four months like that.. You didn't even get erections, is that what you mean? Or you didn't masturbate? You know nocturnal erections happens and you not even aware of it. I'm not attacking your propositon I'm just curious.

@ caustic symmetry

"Take note that this condition results in an increased level of carbon dioxide in the circulation."

Yes, I did also mention on a previous thread, that prolonged inactivity can cause low oxygen delivery, which can cause C02 build up in cells. When the cells are deprived of oxygen, then blood pH is disturbed and acidosis can form. I definitely do agree with you that hypothyroidism is a major contributory factor, and I also believe that the cells of the galea are most susceptible to oxygen deprivation because they contain too much DHT. It's debatable on what DHT's exact effects are on cells -- either it clogs them, or it causes them to partially contract, but I do believe that the hormone slows down the release of c02 acids from cells.

@ young trunks

I never masturbated, although in the beginning I still got some erections, as my body was so conditioned into producing DHT and other hormones involved in sexual arousal. This was a very hard habit to break at first, but gradually I did, and now I don't hardly get any sexual urges of any kind. I know you might find this hard to believe, but once you break the habit, then DHT levels naturally lower and you hardly get any erections at all.

BTW I'm not suffering from erectile dysfunction, as I can get an erection whenever i want; the difference is that I choose whether I get sexually aroused or not. When your hormones are rampant, it seems like you don't really have a choice.

I initially feared that feminization would occur, but nothing like that has happened -- no loss of body hair, no skin softening, no shrunken penis, etc. The only side effect was increased weight gain, but that looked like a mix of fat and muscle. This may be because testosterone stopped being converted into DHT, due to the lowering of enzyme 5 AR, and as a result, I had more T in my body, which may have promoted more protein synthesis, hence the reason I developed so much mass. As you know, T is an anabolic steroid, so this may have been the cause.

Also, if i may add: it is *excessive* masturbating / sex which causes the body to produce more DHT and unhealthy levels of it to deposit within the cells of the galea. Basically, the issue began many years ago from when you began masturbating - in your pre-teens (or possibly later), and all of those years of masturbating have caused an unhealthy level of DHT to deposit within the cells of the galea. This does not affect everyone, as there are specific factors involved in order for this to take place, such as: DHT receptors in the follicles, poorly developed follicles, or a tightened galea. Other issues are involved too, such as slow metabolism.

Interesting. So what else have you added to your protocol? I'm sure you do more than just abstain.

So basically we should be on an alkaline diet and not have sex.

here is some info i got from chimachine4u.com

There are two types of acid and alkaline foods:
1) Acid or alkaline foods, meaning how much acid or alkaline the foods contain.
2) Acid or alkaline 'forming' foods, meaning the pH condition foods create in the body after being digested.

Acidic conditions inhibit nerve action whereas alkalinity stimulates nerve action. Cold showers make the blood alkaline, while hot showers make the blood acid. A balanced diet helps to maintain the pH balance of the blood. Results however take more than a couple of days to show up. If blood develops a more acidic condition, then the body will inevitably deposit the excess acid to another area of the body so that the blood will be able to maintain an alkaline condition. As this cycle continues, these areas will increase in acidity and some cells will die. The dead cells will then turn into acids.

Some cells may adapt and instead of dying as normal cells do in a acid environment, they will survive by becoming abnormal. These abnormal cells are known as malignant cells. Malignant cells do not correspond with brain function nor with our DNA memory code. Malignant cells grow indefinitely and without order. This is cancer, and cancer develops in the following stages:

1. The ingestion of numerous acid forming foods, fatty foods, refined foods, carcinogenic substances such as nitrates, and chemically treated foods. X-ray and airport body scanners also contribute.
2. Constipation is increased.
3. An increase of acidity in the blood. This stage causes an increase of white cells and a decrease of red cells, which is the beginning of leukemia.
4. An increase of acidity in the extra cellular fluids.
5. An increase of acidity into the intracellular fluids.
6. The birth of malignant cells. This stage of cancer is known as 'initiation'.
7. Further ingestion of multiple acid foods. Traditional treatment includes high levels of radiation, chemicals and drugs. This stage is called 'cancer promotion'. - Adapted by CMI from 'Acid Alkaline' by Herman Aihara.

It's mostly cancer related but here's the link that shows you a chart of alkaline foods you can eat.
http://www.chimachine4u.com/AA.html

exercise doesnt raise your dht levels to anything that will matter for your hair. guys who juice on roids and pump iron might lose their hair but thats because they are altering their hormones with potent synthetic substances. if anything, cardio has been shown to lower dht, however only when in excess of 90 minute workouts.

i would not avoid exercise because of hair. how many of you know those sedentary dads and grandads who have whole hosts of health conditions, chronic pain that they developed probably beginning in their 40s. they also are suffering from more injuries and the injuries they are getting are taking them out for longer than the people their same age who engage in regular exercise. if you want to be like them, then yeah go ahead and avoid exercising. youll age faster, and develop more diseases, more chronic pain, etc. and your dht probably wont even be any lower.

^ where is the reasoning or evidence behind the claim that hot showers acidify the blood, and cold alkalyze it?

@ young trunks

I don't believe in going through a whole array of follicle stimulating exercises in order to regrow hair. My main focus is clearing the excess DHT from my galea, and like I say, I abstain from masturbating and sex as much as possible in order to do this. When DHT levels diminish from the galea, then circulation improves and the cells are able to release metabolic acids more efficiently. Most of the things you have read in my posts are the basis of my regrowth regimen.

I don't know if I also mentioned, but I also eat less. When you eat less food, all of the waste matter from foods begins to clear from your capillaries and circulation improves. I'm not telling you to become an anorexic (as starving yourself causes a huge release of ketoacids, and these acids cause serious inflammation), what I'm saying is, eating less prevents a build up of waste matter in your capillary network.

@ Mistmermr

I just prefer to abstain as much as possible. I know this is a huge issue for some, especially in relationships, but I've been single for a while, so, fortunately, I am OK to do this. However, I'd still advise people to try to reduce DHT levels by not masturbating, or cutting down as much as possible.

And that's an interesting piece of information - it somewhat correlates with what I mentioned in regards to excess body heat keeping the capillaries in a state of dilation. From my own personal experience, I find that too much body heat causes too much oxygen to enter cells, and also causes them to metabolize too much energy. A biproduct of this, is excess C02 acids, and like I say, the galea has issues releasing these acids because of DHT.

@ Law of thelema

I didn't actually say exercise causes DHT levels to increase. What I did say was, excessive exercise causes an increase in *metabolic acids*, and cells of the galea have difficulty releasing these acids when there is excess DHT within them. I said excessive amounts of masturbating and sex *over many years* (from early teens in fact) can cause the hormone to deposit within the cells of the galea and cause issues with circulation / blood pH balance.

@ Xenon

I'm not telling you to become an anorexic (as starving yourself causes a huge release of ketoacids, and these acids cause serious inflammation),

I'm already anorexic due to a horrible condition I've had from a car wreck so I can't afford to cut back on food anyway.
So you abstain to lower dht. What kind of shampoo do you use? Do you use conditioner as well? I'm thinking about doin keto and try what you said with abstain. But abstain is good I believe but there still has to be a way to clear the DHT in galea. And how sure are you that we could regrow hair with just this one method? I want to believe it but it feels like it takes more bc nobody shows that it worked. Like it makes sense and I thought about it for awhile myself. Do you workout and stuff too? Will high vitamin butter oil/ cod liver oil help return hormones to normal? So that dht will get on track?


I will gather info today and start regimen.

Sorry if anything was repeated I'm going to bed now.

"So you abstain to lower dht."

Yes, this is my preferred method.

"What kind of shampoo do you use? Do you use conditioner as well?"

I just use normal shampoo. I don't use conditioner.

"I'm thinking about doin keto and try what you said with abstain. But abstain is good I believe but there still has to be a way to clear the DHT in galea."

Yes, it's just that when the hormone is over produced, then it will continue to build inside *target cells* within the galea.

"And how sure are you that we could regrow hair with just this one method? I want to believe it but it feels like it takes more bc nobody shows that it worked."

I first put this to the test in 2004 and experienced some regrowth after 4 months, then I started doing it again around 6 months ago and I am experiencing some regrowth again. However, I actually started doing this around 12 months ago, and I was on and off with the abstinence, as the habit was difficult to break, but I eventually did, and for the past 6 months I haven't masturbated. As a result, I began seeing some hairs growing back. It seemed that it took longer for regrowth this time around because it could be that the cells of my follicles are more clogged compared to what they were in 2004.

With that being said, I have heard about people who are impotent and have been for many years, yet still go bald, so this is an interesting issue, which deserves further investigation. So, there may be other factors in operation here. All I know is, this seems to work for me.

"Do you workout and stuff too?"

Yes, but I don't overdo it because of the amount of metabolic acids which build up in the galea. However, I explained some methods I use which help to reduce the acidity build up in the scalp. They might work for you, you will just have to try them to find out.

"Will high vitamin butter oil/ cod liver oil help return hormones to normal? So that dht will get on track?"

I'm unsure about this. I don't really delve into these issues too much, as I just believe you can lower your DHT levels without popping pills everyday or anything else. I'm not discrediting these techniques btw, because if they help to regrow hair, then that's all that matters. I just prefer to restore my hair naturally.

Like I said before, regrowing hair is a long process, but I'm experiencing some regrowth again, and I intend to keep going to see how much will grow back. Hopefully, I'll have significant temple regrowth within a few years.

So, what makes you believe that DHT gets "clogged" in the capillary pores? Why doesn't it get clogged in capillary pores anywhere else?
Do you believe that increasing circulation to the scalp may un clog the capillary pores somehow?

However, I explained some methods I use which help to reduce the acidity build up in the scalp. They might work for you, you will just have to try them to find out.

What are these methods?

SlowMoe wrote:So, what makes you believe that DHT gets "clogged" in the capillary pores? Why doesn't it get clogged in capillary pores anywhere else?
Do you believe that increasing circulation to the scalp may un clog the capillary pores somehow?

The skin of the galea is really tight compared to the skin on other areas of the body (try pinching it, and then pinch other areas of skin and compare how tight it is) and I believe that this can affect circulation / metabolism and slow down the release of waste C02. I believe that too much sex / masturbating can cause too much of the hormone to rush to the cells of the galea and bind to androgen receptors within the cytoplasm.

There's debate about this issue (regarding clogging of cell membranes), but one thing that I'm pretty certain about, the hormone seems to slow down the release of C02, as well as possibly causing the cell to produce more of it. Over production of the hormone may cause the cell's metabolism to raise, as DHT causes ribosomes within the membrane to synthesize more protein, which would cause the mitochondrion to utilize more oxygen. As a result of raised metabolism, the cell produces more metabolic acids, and if they can't be efficiently expelled, then they will inflame the cell. This is either the result of clogging within the membrane or a tightened galea. Possibly both.

ETA: I forgot to answer your last question in regards to increased circulation clearing the hormone. When you carry out mild exercise, such as walking, then you wont produce as much metabolic acid in the scalp, compared to continuous heavy exercise. So, it may be true that the cells gradually metabolize the hormone without risk of inflammation. However, you need to lower your DHT levels, and I explained in a previous post my preferred method for doing this.