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Post  j87x Sat Feb 04, 2012 8:15 am

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16931898?dopt=AbstractPlus

I frequently hear that testosterone is good for hair, but doesn't this study prove otherwise?

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Post  tonyj Sat Feb 04, 2012 8:29 am

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Pathogenetic mechanisms in androgenetic alopecia are not yet fully understood; however, it is commonly accepted that androgens like testosterone (T) and 5alpha-dihydrotestosterone (5alpha-DHT) inhibit hair follicle activity with early induction of the catagen. Thus, we investigated the influence of T and 5alpha-DHT on proliferation, cell death and bcl-2/bax expression in cultured dermal papilla cells (DPC) from nonbalding scalp regions of healthy volunteers. T and 5alpha-DHT induced apoptosis in DPC in a dose-dependent and time-related manner; in addition a necrotic effect due to T at 10(-5) M was found. Interestingly, bcl-2 protein expression was decreased in T- and 5alpha-DHT-treated cells, leading to an increase in the bax/bcl-2 ratio. In addition, T and 5alpha-DHT induced proteolytic cleavage of caspase 8 and inhibited proliferation of DPC at 10(-5) M. High concentrations of T and 5alpha-DHT were needed to induce apoptotic effects in DPC. These data suggest that DPC from nonbalding scalp regions do have the capacity to undergo apoptosis, but need a high androgen stimulus. The present study provides an interesting new pathogenetic approach in androgenetic alopecia.

Not sure if I understood this correctly. Nonbalding men's scalp have a higher resistance to androgen stimulus?
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Post  CausticSymmetry Sat Feb 04, 2012 1:51 pm

What's the real difference between non-balding and balding dermal papilla cells? Most likely oxidation sensitivity.
In other words, free radicals can determine whether T/DHT will be an issue or not.

One way to tell is insulin sensitivity. The less effective it is, the worse the oxidation. Hence, a pro-inflammatory effect on dermal papilla cells.

What would happen if an insulin resistance man were given an injection of testosterone? Usually, a higher estrogen conversion will occur by way of aromatization (sometimes called "hyperaromatization"), which converts a lot of that testosterone into estrogen.

Another factor to consider is that DHT inhibits IGF-1 in the dermal papilla cell. If one has robust insulin sensitivity, they will be less prone to IGF-1 shortages under the influence of T/DHT. Furthermore, if one does not consume oxidation products, takes a variety of fat and water soluble antioxidants, they will be less prone to this form of oxidation.

Growth Horm IGF Res. 2011 Oct;21(5):260-7. doi: 10.1016/j.ghir.2011.07.003. Epub 2011 Aug 11.

Also bear in mind that usually DNA molecules have a negative charge...during the sleep and fall out stages of hair growth there are increasing levels of positive charges. DHT produces a positive charge which weakens the electrical attraction between unformed germ cells and the dermal papilla. Insulin resistance state exacerbates the negative effect of DHT.


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Post  Misirlou Sun Feb 05, 2012 8:03 am

What wound 'earthing' potentially do then, except increasing the number of free electrons?

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