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Post  averagejoe001 Wed Dec 10, 2008 4:13 am

Hi there

I did a hair mineral analysis recently and got the following results back. How could these readings affect hair loss?

The ones in bold are highlighted as areas that I need to focus on.

Am currently using Promox, Niz, .25 Proscar. In terms of vitamins I take ALA, a multi mineral, Biotin and a Vit B supplement along with fish oil for EFA's


Macro-Minerals Target Level RESULT mg/%
Calcium 43.014 30.121
Magnesium 6.955 3.115
Sodium 26.804 20.905
Potassium 11.342 5.115
Iron 3.745 2.113
Zinc 11.984 7.909
Phosphorous 17.12 10.9
Micro-Nutrients Target Level RESULT mg/%
Selenium 0.193 0.118
Biotin 6.099 3.656
E.F.A. 18.083 8.778
Chromium 0.021 0.012
Copper 2.675 0.009
Manganese 0.193 0.125
Fluoride 0.037 0.021
Additional Target RESULT
Minerals Level mg/%
Nickel 0.107 0.065
Cobalt 0.043 0.03
Molybdenum 0.118 0.065
Lithium 0.214 0.145
Sulphur 4280 2050.9
Boron 0.214 0.145
Amino Acids Target Level RESULT mg/%
Histidine 16.478 10.909
Iso-leucine 14.552 8.99
Leucine 15.569 8.55
Phenylalanine 17.976 11.25
Tryptophan 6.313 4.22
Valine 16.264 9.89
Arginine 16.478 9.12
Lysine 17.762 10.98
Methionine 29.532 17.87
Threonine 37.985 20.9

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Post  CausticSymmetry Wed Dec 10, 2008 6:22 am

averagejoe001 - For the sulfur, MSM is a good source for this, or taking NAC (N-Acetyl Cysteine).

Many mineral supplements are short on Magnesium (or they use a cheap oxide mineral as the only source).

Consider taking extra magnesium. Magnesium Potassium Aspartate would probably be ideal for you.
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Post  scottyc33 Wed Dec 10, 2008 6:51 am

It's interesting that you are below target on almost everything.

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Post  Misirlou Wed Dec 10, 2008 7:19 am

scottyc33 wrote:It's interesting that you are below target on almost everything.

Perhaps the provider of the analysis also provides costly solutions for people getting below the targets? pirat

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Post  nidhogge Wed Dec 10, 2008 9:03 am

Looking over your chart, I can recommend the following to get you back on track:

- Start taking ALL oratic minerals. Zinc Oratate, Potassium Oratate, Calcium Oratate, and Magnesium Oratate. Also, start using Magnesium Oil (PureMagOil.com).

- Start upping your protein consumption significantly. Namely--eggs and whey isolate (nutrabio.com).

- The FULL regime should take care of everything else.

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Post  Project: JS Wed Dec 10, 2008 12:22 pm

From my own experience, I can tell you Nid is right on the money with eating extra protein. And good proteins should help w/ mineral absorbancy. I personally feel healthiest when I am eating lots and lots of eggs.. like 6 a day on average. Cook them slow with lots of butter (not a threat - correct me if I am wrong) or healthy fats like coconut or palm oil.

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Post  sublime9 Wed Dec 10, 2008 12:32 pm

If you are looking to get high protein high minerals you may want to look into spirulina and hemp protein. Spirulina is vastly superior to all other proteins available bar none. All cooked proteins loose half their protein count and that does not even take into account what is left to be absorbed whereas spirulina is 86% absorbable.

If price and edibility are a large concern the other recommendations should be effective as well.

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Post  lund Wed Dec 10, 2008 1:53 pm

Dude - how much money did you shell for this? $150+ ?

Is there research supporting the validity of this type of testing?

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Post  halfempty Wed Dec 10, 2008 2:27 pm

You gotta tell us where you got this done. It seems fishy to me.

Is fluoride really a micro-nutrient?

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Post  CausticSymmetry Wed Dec 10, 2008 3:42 pm

Fluoride is a neurotoxin, there is no need for it whatsoever.
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Post  nidhogge Thu Dec 11, 2008 5:00 am

Shhh, IH, the Aluminum industry might hear you! Wink

I'll cook my eggs in coconut oil, scrambled. Once I'm on my own and get my diet and everything back in order, life's going to go like this. 6 raw eggs blended with whey protein in the morning, 6 hard-broiled to eat during the day, adn 6 scrambled. I'll get some Spirulina and Hemp protein in my diet at some point as well.

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Post  averagejoe001 Thu Dec 11, 2008 6:43 am

Thanks for the comments so far, however the thing that concerns me is that I've been taking a lot of Fish oil and 5mg Biotin but I still have deficiencies in that area? Any ideas?

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Post  CausticSymmetry Thu Dec 11, 2008 10:13 am

averagejoe001 - I'm not certain if a hair analysis test is accurate on EFA's, also a hair analysis test is usually high subject to the interpreter it has some paradoxes in the how the results are read.

That said, you're probably not really EFA deficient. On the other hand, some can take well over a year of EFA's supplementation before they have hit a proper saturation point.
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