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Post  HarryHenderson Mon Jan 11, 2010 2:50 pm

sorry for the ignorant post but just want others views.

It just seems like it could make sense as far as the mpb shape etc.

Also alot of people who practice yoga think it can help hair.



Just thnk of what kind of strain your spine mite be under over a long period of time.

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Post  HarryHenderson Mon Jan 11, 2010 2:51 pm

i just thought it may have been overlooked as a cause. I mean its one of the most important parts of our body (spine).

And can affect a large number of things such as thyroid, immune system, breathing etc.

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Post  CausticSymmetry Mon Jan 11, 2010 3:25 pm

cuebreeze - Poor posture can sometimes be a subconscious maneuver to improve your breathing if it is constricted in someway. When this is a the case, cortisol levels rise and that could be a contributing factor.

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Post  Gibson Tue Jan 12, 2010 2:10 pm

cuebreeze--

honestly, I have no idea how much it would help your hair, but improving the musculature of your back is a brilliant idea: chase it. There are several yoga postures you can do. However, I would suggest just doing Bikram Yoga, which covers so many bases. With a practice like Bikram Yoaga and a few dialed in supplements, i think you can live like a jack a lane.

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Post  Espio Tue Jan 12, 2010 5:51 pm

I'd be one of those people, balding and poor posture. Its not my fault though, I swears it. My bottom vertebra never seperated at birth so my spine is a bit shorter and less flexible than normal, so I have a bit of a caveman gait.

But I see where you're coming from, I think if someone had a natural confidence he would naturally exude good posture, so that person is likely to have higher testosterone than the guy who is slinking around hunched over. Being the winner in any competition causes an increase in testosterone, so of course just holding your head high and standing strait would exude more confidence and help you keep your testosterone levels up.

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Post  HarryHenderson Tue Jan 12, 2010 9:46 pm

sleep positioning would be a major factor too if spine problems was the cause. We are putting strain on certain parts of our body in every position humans move in (including resting). The only time the weight is evenly spread is when we sleep on our back or possibly in a hammock. I know i allways slouch on chairs and have my neck bent in bed on the pillows.

I read that premature babys are often put in hammocks to encourage a well shaped spine.

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Post  HarryHenderson Tue Jan 12, 2010 9:52 pm

It could also explain why so many different types of people all have something in common. Also may explain why women are less prone to hairloss, possibly by there different body shape and weight distrabution. Im just thinking out loud here but hopefully something can come of it.

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Post  jobey Wed Jan 13, 2010 1:16 am

I think bad posture has absolutely nothing to do with male pattern baldness. Plenty of bald men exude confidence and have good posture. I wouldnt waste any more time on it.... enjoy life instead Smile

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Post  Gibson Wed Jan 13, 2010 11:48 am

can't enjoy life with a bad back.

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Post  johnt Wed Jan 13, 2010 2:55 pm

To add to what Gibson is saying about the importance of healthy posture and yoga, in both meditation and yoga emphasis of an erect spine is vital. It is said the spine is the center of your spiritual energy and when doing proper breathing exercises with good posture - a straight spine it increases life force energy/circulation throughout the system in profound ways. Practice sitting in the lotus position or begin by sitting with as good of posture as possible and just concentrate on deep breathing techniques for about 20 minutes per day -- the stress reduction you'll experience alone is likely hugely beneficial for the hair -- but I'm certain the effects are even greater than mere stress reduction.

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Post  Silverlin Wed Jan 13, 2010 10:41 pm

cuebreeze - I second gibson and johnt. I am a firm believer that good posture is an integral part to overall well being.

My posture wasn't terrible, but it definitely needed working on(I was a bit of a slouch). Since working on aligning my posture correctly, I have found it has strengthened overall well being and has given me a greater sense of freedom. As far as having a direct influence on hair loss, I can't vouch for that, but it definitely helps indirectly.

To get an understanding about what correct posture is, first and foremost you should check out Alexander technique. Posture is simply about changing an unhealthy habit. Having a healthy posture isn't about becoming rigid or stiff, its about using the body in its most efficient way, relaxed, balanced and strong. Also getting some massage and good chiropractic work done can help iron out the kinks in breaking out of bad posture.

From life experience the posture is fundamentally reflected at the spiritual level and should thus be worked on spiritually IMO, as I've seen people develop anxiety and egotism out of being overly conscious of themselves(posture)when just focusing on the physical(though this applies really to everything, including hair loss)

For what its worth the famous Edgar Cayce mentioned subluxations of the spine being one reason contributing to hair loss.
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Post  jobey Thu Jan 14, 2010 4:37 am

Obviously, good posture = better spinal/ back health which is of benefit to our overall health. However, bad posture being a cause of male pattern baldness?!....cant see it really.

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Post  johnt Thu Jan 14, 2010 6:24 am

jobey wrote:Obviously, good posture = better spinal/ back health which is of benefit to our overall health. However, bad posture being a cause of male pattern baldness?!....cant see it really.

How about bad posture = worse spinal/back health which is detrimental to our overall health. Worse overall health, all else equal, results in an impedimant to our hairloss battle.

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Post  johnt Thu Jan 14, 2010 6:28 am

I mean, like 95% of the topics on here, I doubt anyone feels it is the cause or cure for hairloss. We're all looking for ways to implement things into our everyday lifestyles that will improve our overall health and as a result assist our hairloss issues. Undoubtedly some things will achieve this more effectively and directly than others.

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Post  jobey Thu Jan 14, 2010 6:49 am

I agree that improving overall health equates to a better environment to grow hair. Thats why this website is so good.... the supplements suggested hopefully do their bit in achieving that.
I think the theory behind MPB has been adequately suggested already, dht, inflammation etc. Stress of course can be a contributing factor. My point is that stress caused by bad posture is minimal. The stress caused by constantly looking for the 'new theory' to hairloss... and thinking about hairloss much of the time,seems much more likely to be detrimental to your hair IMO.

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Post  Gibson Thu Jan 14, 2010 11:39 am

joeby--

The notion of improving posture is a brilliant seed for a thread. We all have conceded that it is unlikely to have a dramatic effect on one's hair. That said, reclaiming your birth right: the range of motion your body is capable of, is a fountain of youth in itself: back bends Baby! Building core strength to support your spine is also a fundamental game plan for longevity. There is a reason yoga is a billion dollar industry, and it is largely not because it is marketed well, or cool. It is simply because the health benefits are undeniable. People who encounter these benefits never turn back.

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Post  jobey Fri Jan 15, 2010 12:59 am

Gibson-
I agree that good spinal health and core strength are undeniably a positive thing for overall health. I was under the impression that this thread was related to the hair benefits of posture..... that good posture would equate to better hair. That is where i disagree.

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Post  rofl Fri Jan 15, 2010 1:11 am

'I think bad posture has absolutely nothing to do with male pattern baldness. Plenty of bald men exude confidence and have good posture. I wouldnt waste any more time on it.... enjoy life instead '

i disagree entirely, for every possible cause or contributing factor there is people that seem to disprove it, because it hasnt affected them, but this doesnt disprove it, just like smoking and lung cancer, some get it some dont, but for those that do, it was probably cos of smoking. If people have bad posture and still dont go bald, perhaps they just dont have the genetic disposition in the first place.

i for one have always thought posture was related somehow, im not just saying that to take away cuebreezes kudos for posting about it, its the god honest truth, i just never could think of something to write about it. but possible correlations could be connections with sleeping positions, muscle tension that tightens the skin on the head, it could somehow affect the way our skulls bone reshapes it self longterm, it could affect circulation, it could also be the connection between stress and hairloss, stressed people quite likely will slouch, and have bad posture cos they r so tired and worn out.

im slouching right now as i type. my shoulders get more rounded as i age, and my posture just gets worse. the skin on my head seems to get tighter in the middle, where its thinning, and losser round the sides where its thick.

good thinking cue, god knows wat we could do about it though, if we had the motivation to fix it by now we would have. my physiotherapist says the best thing to do is develop the lower abs, involving tightning exercises that strengthen the V shape that goes down to ur groin, whenever i walk, i tense these muscles. and also my ass muscles. but i think im destined to have rounded shoulders no matter wat, and destined to go bald, damn it all!
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Post  johnt Fri Jan 15, 2010 3:56 am

jobey wrote:Gibson-
I agree that good spinal health and core strength are undeniably a positive thing for overall health. I was under the impression that this thread was related to the hair benefits of posture..... that good posture would equate to better hair. That is where i disagree.

I am really not trying to be nitpicky with you on this, but I just don't understand your logic. You agree that good posture equates to better overall health, however you disagree that good posture equates to better hair, therefore it must follow that you do not believe that better overall health equates to better hair. In other words, health has no impact on hair?

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Post  jobey Fri Jan 15, 2010 6:27 am

Johnt -
I dont mind you disagreeing with me at all. The only way i can see posture having a minor impact on hair is through stress caused by back pain etc. So for people who have stress related hairloss, curing back pain through better posture would lower stress which may slightly benefit hair. However, there are many, many things in life that cause stress and it is impossible to eradicate them all. For a person with chronic back pain, i can accept the theory that less stress creates a better environment for healthy hair. It would probably be as beneficial simply to laugh and enjoy life everyday, thus creating less stress that way.
The theory behind MPB - dht, inflammation etc seems sound to me. Therefore, for the vast majority of us with MPB - not stress related hair loss, i think bad posture is not a contributing factor.

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Post  takingaction Wed Jan 20, 2010 4:35 pm

Apparently, some studies have found that posture can affect circulation. It's plausible that could affect hair growth. That's outside the realm of MPB, however. I think of bad posture as more due to underlying contributors to hair loss (unhealthy lifestyle) than as a direct player in the process.

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Post  HarryHenderson Sun Feb 07, 2010 12:57 am

this theory could also explain why so many different people from all walks of life for so many years have all gone through mpb

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Post  rob4001 Fri Feb 11, 2011 9:31 pm

I fully subscribe to a posture related-theory btw.

I believe that posture over time subtly impacts the shape of your head which can in turn lead to hairloss.

I have a poor posture and a lot of tension due to a very bad back injury when i was young and over the years i've linked that annoying irritation feeling around the affected temple areas with upper back and neck discomfort/pain. I've experimented with various exercises which have alleviated the pain and have also almost immediately eliminated the irritating feeling in my scalp.

I have no idea what the exact mechanism taking place is but i am completely convinced at least in my case this is what underlying cause is.

Any questions/thoughts/input thoroughly welcome.

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Post  MikeGore Fri May 08, 2015 9:25 am

I've been thinking about this again, and have been seeing a lot people with bad posture and hair loss, and good posture and amazing hair.

It also kinda pisses me off how people talk about improving posture as if its simply habit. I've think there is also a musculoskeletal and genetic connection that makes certain types of individuals more prone to having bad posture.

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Post  Growdamnit Fri May 08, 2015 9:58 am

I don't think so unfortunately. My best friend is a perfect NW0 and has terrible posture.

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