ocean water

When the wave arrives I certainly can't call what I do on a surfboard 'surfing' .
But my hair has also looked incredible on any day I've been in ocean water over the years.

Regarding ocean water, the Quinton-water (or Quinton plasma) is an interesting product.

http://www.quinton-water.com/main/page_product_gallery_quinton_data_quinton_dog_expts.html
http://www.plasmaquinton.com/products.php

World class post - and much appreciated, thank you lw-4!

Went in twice today and itch gone again...

Just that and alkaline water with freshly squeezed lemon...

M

may also bee due to the UV rays you catch while in the water too. The water magnifies the sun. Also, salt is drying... So if your head is normally greasy or full of sebum, the ocean might help you. My head feels good after I go in the ocean, but if I don't shower for a while the salt will start to make my head itch.

The non-itching after the ocean is most likly because of a scalp infection......you could try GSE or similar and compare the results.

Yup its a scalp infection. One of the good things about Gaunitz is his microscope experience; when you've looked at as many scalps as he has I presume you get to know it. Although que drum roll for Immortal's supplement program and OMG's Laser, as Gaunitz said given how very bad my scalp infection was he was amazed at how thick my hair was. My take is all the supps CS recommends, OMG's LLLT and a great diet means it can grow well despite my scalp havin a fungal infection... - although that is getting less & less. I may try the GSE, I have some here - thanks.

Equally, I know many of us have been negatve on the ph stuff, but I must say it works a million bucks... for me at least.

Clean enviro, diet, supps, ocean, ph, LLLT & topicals for Fungus....

lw-4 wrote:Regarding ocean water, the Quinton-water (or Quinton plasma) is an interesting product.

http://www.quinton-water.com/main/page_product_gallery_quinton_data_quinton_dog_expts.html
http://www.plasmaquinton.com/products.php

Those are literally magical minerals in there

Mastery wrote:My take is all the supps CS recommends, OMG's LLLT and a great diet means it can grow well despite my scalp havin a fungal infection...

I can confirm that....having scalp infection myself and still growing hair...

Equally, I know many of us have been negatve on the ph stuff, but I must say it works a million bucks... for me at least.

There is no "body ph" and it's not as simple as saying alkaline=good, acidic=bad....even if you could change ph of your blood intentionally, it would be set back immediatly. CS made a good post about this few days ago:

https://immortalhair.forumotion.com/t6876-so-does-anyone-else-agree-with-me-that-infection-of-hair-follicles-is-the-cause-of-aga-how-to-control-it#67389

Sure I agree, I understand the ph is complicated, but I stand by it. Drinking FIJI water with lemon in it creates a tingle on my scalp and gets rid of the itch - simple as that!

OK, watch my next post - a new thread for you guys and especially CS to comment on!!

Mastery wrote:
Sure I agree, I understand the ph is complicated, but I stand by it. Drinking FIJI water with lemon in it creates a tingle on my scalp and gets rid of the itch - simple as that!

Lemon water is acidic no?

Nope! - It turns you powerfully alkaline.

Mastery wrote:Nope!

Lemon juice is acidic.....get ph test kits if you doubt it

- It turns you powerfully alkaline.

Please be more specific, which body fluid are we talking about?

Body fluids have different ph values, and the body -thyroid? controls it by adding or removing minerals from tissues.

Come on guys, this one is pretty simple - lemon water leaves an alkaline ash in the body, its well known...

And I know from personal experience it works brilliantly. For me stopped the itch, stopped the fall.

If you dont believe me read Dr. Colgan's anti inflmmatory athlete e book. He's simply brilliant.

CausticSymmetry wrote:

lw-4 wrote:Regarding ocean water, the Quinton-water (or Quinton plasma) is an interesting product.

http://www.quinton-water.com/main/page_product_gallery_quinton_data_quinton_dog_expts.html
http://www.plasmaquinton.com/products.php

Those are literally magical minerals in there

Tell me more CS... I'm intrigued...

PS loads of new hairs now, darker, thicker - here's hoping....

Mastery wrote:Come on guys, this one is pretty simple - lemon water leaves an alkaline ash in the body, its well known...

Since you refuse to tell me where the alkalizing effect is taking place I can't argue any further....saying it "leaves an alkaline ash in the body" is as unspecific and abstract as it can get.

I've also heard that lemon will go from acid to alkaline once inside, hmm..but I won't debate it

Misirlou wrote:I've also heard that lemon will go from acid to alkaline once inside, hmm..but I won't debate it ;)

No need to, I read ascorbic acid alkalizes urine.....that doesn't make the whole 'your body should be alkaline'-talk less nonsense.

Check out the list of body fluids, you can't count them with two hands, yet some people think they all need the same ph(>7)!?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_fluid

FWIW, beyond supplying electrons, alkaline, etc., lemons as well as some other foods are said to be one of the best foods you can consume for zeta potential (to keep your red blood cells from sticking together).

There use to be a good link somewhere here http://www.hbci.com/~wenonah/new/mcdaniel.htm which directed to an article for which foods are recommended and which ones are the worst (chlorine and flouride are the worst... as in hot showers) for zeta potential. It's a good site to read if you don't find the link anyhow.

Earthing also works well for zeta potential such as swimming in the ocean. Swimming in the ocean will also help with your lymphatic system as well as well as other benefits.

Mentioned in the past many times that the lymphatic system is probably more important in hair loss than the circulatory system/blood flow. At least IME.

Putting ACV on the scalp also produces a tingle, but can we say that consuming ACV alkalizes us? I doubt it, but am not sure. Sure, it contains some alkali (potassium), but the overall acetic acid content far outweighs this. If I am correct, the ACV works to reestablish the acid mantle of the skin, which helps eliminate and protect from bacteria and fungal infections. Maybe the lemon juice, because it is naturally acidic, does the same thing.

Mastery wrote:

CausticSymmetry wrote:

lw-4 wrote:Regarding ocean water, the Quinton-water (or Quinton plasma) is an interesting product.

http://www.quinton-water.com/main/page_product_gallery_quinton_data_quinton_dog_expts.html
http://www.plasmaquinton.com/products.php

Those are literally magical minerals in there

Tell me more CS... I'm intrigued...

PS loads of new hairs now, darker, thicker - here's hoping....

Okay, well here is a background. This goes back to a discovery by a French scientist, Rene’ Quinton.

His research shocked the medical community in 1904. Millions of lives were saved throughout Europe and in Northern Africa due to his discovery of ocean "technology" of bio-available minerals found in a part of it.

A then new and largely forgotten ocean medical treatment has been found so effective for a wide range of conditions that the French government supported it.

The name of this medical marvel is "Plasma de Quinton." It's also known as Original Quinton Marine Plasma. It origin is from seawater. However, Rene’ Quinton figured out that within the ocean contain behemoth size spirals/Whirlpools of plankton.

These are so large that they can be sign from space. The plankton contain highly mineral rich bundles of energy that are much greater than a standard mixture, but contain a type of "plasma" that is much like human blood.

The treatments are largely successful with infections of many sorts.

This is a way to get something more powerful than simple ocean water, but it is not cheap, but worth a go.
It's been very well studied for a variety of conditions.

pancacke wrote:

Mastery wrote:Come on guys, this one is pretty simple - lemon water leaves an alkaline ash in the body, its well known...

Since you refuse to tell me where the alkalizing effect is taking place I can't argue any further....saying it "leaves an alkaline ash in the body" is as unspecific and abstract as it can get.

My understanding is that when you eat or drink something the ph affect it has on the body is determined by the residue or ash that is left after the primary item has been broken down. I do not profess to know the details but simply trust it as it works...

Mastery wrote:

pancacke wrote:

Mastery wrote:Come on guys, this one is pretty simple - lemon water leaves an alkaline ash in the body, its well known...

Since you refuse to tell me where the alkalizing effect is taking place I can't argue any further....saying it "leaves an alkaline ash in the body" is as unspecific and abstract as it can get.

My understanding is that when you eat or drink something the ph affect it has on the body is determined by the residue or ash that is left after the primary item has been broken down. I do not profess to know the details but simply trust it as it works...

Sorry that was a little harsh...I did a little search and found that ascorbic acid alkalizes urine, what effect it has on the other fluids I don't know...that it works for you doesn't mean it has anything to do with ph though, like jdp wrote lemon has potential beyond that.

What did jdp say about Lemon?

If you purchase the Anti Inflammatory Athlete book by Dr. Michael Colgan (available on line at www.colganinstitute.com as an e book - no affiliation) you can read all about the ph effects. In that he specifically mentions lemon as raising ph to a more alkaline state.

M

Cannot say about ocean water, as i don't live close to one. But since reading this thread, I have been occasionally trying dissolving some mountain salt (the non-iodized, whole kind) in some water and rubbing it in my hair/scalp. I have tried it 4-5 times now, and there is definitely a tingling and itching sensation for a few minutes after this, which soon goes away.

There seems to be something to this. Maybe this method is a quick way to supply minerals topically to the scalp. Getting the salt solution to near isotonic (with the body) levels might be a good idea. This is also suggested in the discussion already. Ayurveda practices also almost always suggest using isotonic water in various cleansing practices.

Maybe one of these days I'm going to try a whole body salt water rub after showering.

Thanks mastery, and everyone else.