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Post  hairmaniac Wed Aug 28, 2019 9:14 am

So, I've been having some prostate issues like peeing very frequently (while feeling that my bladder is not empty), also having a feeling of pressure in my pelvic area, so I suspect I have enlarged prostate

What do you guys think are some good foods / supplements / lifestyle changes to improve my problem?

I'm 26 btw, is that too early to have bph?

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Post  CausticSymmetry Wed Aug 28, 2019 9:54 am

hairmaniac wrote:So, I've been having some prostate issues like peeing very frequently (while feeling that my bladder is not empty), also having a feeling of pressure in my pelvic area, so I suspect I have enlarged prostate

What do you guys think are some good foods / supplements / lifestyle changes to improve my problem?

I'm 26 btw, is that too early to have bph?

It's quite early. Could be a variety of reasons--just a few to ponder. High estrogen, elevated prolactin, mineral deficiencies (think boron), carbohydrate intolerance. Often times it's sugar causing a high propensity to cause an overactive bladder.

Knowing the cause will address the cure.

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Post  bh1546 Sun Sep 01, 2019 9:42 pm

I thought at one point i had prostate problems but it was really things i was putting in my body. Any alcohol or caffeine really caused an irritation of my bladder and therefore would cause me to have to pee constantly for the next few hours. Its even to the point of having to avoid chocolate if i wont have a access to a restroom for a while. Also i agree with cs an excess of sugar or carbs can also cause problems

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Post  CausticSymmetry Tue Sep 03, 2019 4:05 pm

Maybe low levels of ADH or antidiuretic horomone. Then there is a type of diabetic condition known as diabetes insipidus. It boosts the urine volume because of low antidiuretic hormone. ADH is produced by the pituitary gland.

ADH is also known as vasopressin...low levels of arginine will cause a deficiency.


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Post  manoka Thu Sep 19, 2019 8:53 pm

I had the same issues.
Then I got tested positive for Lyme disease.
I took/take supplements to improve my immune system, then these issues have resolved.

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Post  manoka Fri Sep 20, 2019 10:01 pm

If one has an enlarged prostate, the urethra is constricted, thus the main symptom is a weak urine spurt.
If one has an urge to pee, even when the bladder is far from being full, then it is very likely that the bladder is infected with Borrelia - one of the organs which is usually most affected.
Btw. Lyme disease is a lot more common than previously believed, as it is also transmited by all sorts of stinging/biting insects, and even in the womb.
One may not notice it for years or decades as long as the immun system is strong enough.

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Post  CausticSymmetry Wed Sep 25, 2019 4:04 am

manoka wrote:If one has an enlarged prostate, the urethra is constricted, thus the main symptom is a weak urine spurt.
If one has an urge to pee, even when the bladder is far from being full, then it is very likely that the bladder is infected with Borrelia - one of the organs which is usually most affected.
Btw. Lyme disease is a lot more common than previously believed, as it is also transmited by all sorts of stinging/biting insects, and even in the womb.
One may not notice it for years or decades as long as the immune system is strong enough.

An interesting note about Borrelia Burgdorferi is what Stevia Rebaudiana in the whole leaf extract, apparently helps a lot.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4681354/


"The leaf extract of Stevia possesses many phytochemicals, which include austroinullin, β-carotene, dulcoside, nilacin, rebaudi oxides, riboflavin, steviol, stevioside, and tiamin with known antimicrobial properties against many pathogens [40, 42, 43]. The role of these compounds is mainly to protect the plant from microbial infection and adverse environmental conditions [38–43]. Stevia is also well known in traditional medicine for its use in treatment of many diseases like diabetes, high blood pressure, and weight loss [44, 45]. In a few clinical studies, it is reported that the phytochemical stevioside reduces blood pressure in patients experiencing mild hypertension and reduces blood glucose levels in type 2 diabetic patients [44, 45]. It was also demonstrated that the patients did not encounter any adverse effects from the use of stevioside [44, 45]."

"In this study, we evaluated the antimicrobial potential of whole leaf Stevia extracts against the Lyme disease causing pathogen, B. burgdorferi. We compared the antimicrobial effect of Stevia with antibiotics (doxycycline, cefoperazone, daptomycin) and their combination, which were recently found effective against Borrelia persisters [31]. For this study, we have chosen to utilize a novel quantitative method developed by J. Feng et al. combined with our previously reported direct counting method [7, 30, 31, 46]. Findings from this study show that Stevia whole leaf extract, as an individual agent, was effective against all known morphological forms of B. burgdorferi."

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Post  manoka Wed Sep 25, 2019 5:35 am

Thanks CausticSymmetry!
Actually, whole leaf stevia extract is one of the remedies I used.

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Post  MikeGore Thu Jul 15, 2021 3:32 am

My father is going to the toilet way too often and need something to heal the prostrate.

I've ordered him Diosmin/Hesperidin not sure if the dosage is best, its 450mg and 50mg respectively (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Diosmin-450-hesperidin-50-Venalex/dp/B01M6XI4OJ/ref=sr_1_6?dchild=1) and also Vitamin K2.

It's interesting that Stevia is helpful for prostate problems. What's the best way to take this and dosage? Capsule, drops, powder.

Interesting about the infection with Borrelia.

From what I read estrogen dominance may also be an issue. If that's the case, maca, calcium d-glucarate, DIM, Vitex might be a good idea for people with prostate issues too.

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Post  hairmaniac Thu Jul 15, 2021 12:39 pm

MikeGore wrote:My father is going to the toilet way too often and need something to heal the prostrate.

I've ordered him Diosmin/Hesperidin not sure if the dosage is best, its 450mg and 50mg respectively (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Diosmin-450-hesperidin-50-Venalex/dp/B01M6XI4OJ/ref=sr_1_6?dchild=1) and also Vitamin K2.

It's interesting that Stevia is helpful for prostate problems. What's the best way to take this and dosage? Capsule, drops, powder.

Interesting about the infection with Borrelia.

From what I read estrogen dominance may also be an issue. If that's the case, maca, calcium d-glucarate, DIM, Vitex might be a good idea for people with prostate issues too.

Quercetin and Curcumin helped me with prostate issues

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Post  Cat with a Hat Sun Aug 15, 2021 5:06 am

manoka wrote:I had the same issues.
Then I got tested positive for Lyme disease.
I took/take supplements to improve my immune system, then these issues have resolved.

Can you mention the supplements you used? I am having some immune system issues.

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Post  Nuada Wed Dec 22, 2021 1:58 am

I was gonna create a new thread but I found this and my issue is somehat related to this I guess.

A week ago or so I felt like my bladder wasn't empty after going to the toilet(for number 2) and I tried to pee but I couldn't but the feeling didn't go away. Ever since then I what I feel at times is that I have to pee eventhough I don't have much left and sometimes I feel like I couldn't empty my bladder after going to to the toilet. Slight pain/ache in urinary tract. So I thought it might be either a prostate problem or a urinary tract infection. I looked it up and they recommend saw palmetto for enlarged prostate(which I've been using for the last 4-5 months) and d-mannoz for urinary tract relief(which I just bought in pill form). The one I got is called cranberry(250mg) and d-mannoz(200mg). Is there a protocol for this ?

A side question, I think I have a hemorrhoid issue atm so I'm also thinking can it be related to that. Can the swelling of the rectum put pressure on the bladder and create the symptoms I described above ?

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Post  CausticSymmetry Wed Dec 22, 2021 5:07 am

Nuada wrote:I was gonna create a new thread but I found this and my issue is somehat related to this I guess.

A week ago or so I felt like my bladder wasn't empty after going to the toilet(for number 2) and I tried to pee but I couldn't but the feeling didn't go away. Ever since then I what I feel at times is that I have to pee eventhough I don't have much left and sometimes I feel like I couldn't empty my bladder after going to to the toilet. Slight pain/ache in urinary tract. So I thought it might be either a prostate problem or a urinary tract infection. I looked it up and they recommend saw palmetto for enlarged prostate(which I've been using for the last 4-5 months) and d-mannoz for urinary tract relief(which I just bought in pill form). The one I got is called cranberry(250mg) and d-mannoz(200mg). Is there a protocol for this ?

A side question, I think I have a hemorrhoid issue atm so I'm also thinking can it be related to that. Can the swelling of the rectum put pressure on the bladder and create the symptoms I described above ?

Is there much better advice out there? There is, but these days the industry has become sort of a medical idiocracy, shortening names to conditions such OAB (overactive bladder), BPH (Benign Prostatic Hyperplasia), and leave everyone in the dark on what's really going on.

It's just never that simple.

Here's a publication on the Pathophysiology of refractory overactive bladder, one possible set of causes.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30900373/

The only one mentioned that seemed remotely helpful was caffeine reduction, which does work in some cases.

For most people, a very deep dive into medical history and other info improves chances on many of the above issues. Sometimes they are all connected.

Would search this forum for the other issues, likely to turn up better options.

Either OAB or BPH are frequently not caused by what the poison industry alleges.

Hint, toxins and cortisol out of control usually has a lot to do with it.

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Post  Nuada Wed Dec 22, 2021 7:10 am

CausticSymmetry wrote:
Nuada wrote:I was gonna create a new thread but I found this and my issue is somehat related to this I guess.

A week ago or so I felt like my bladder wasn't empty after going to the toilet(for number 2) and I tried to pee but I couldn't but the feeling didn't go away. Ever since then I what I feel at times is that I have to pee eventhough I don't have much left and sometimes I feel like I couldn't empty my bladder after going to to the toilet. Slight pain/ache in urinary tract. So I thought it might be either a prostate problem or a urinary tract infection. I looked it up and they recommend saw palmetto for enlarged prostate(which I've been using for the last 4-5 months) and d-mannoz for urinary tract relief(which I just bought in pill form). The one I got is called cranberry(250mg) and d-mannoz(200mg). Is there a protocol for this ?

A side question, I think I have a hemorrhoid issue atm so I'm also thinking can it be related to that. Can the swelling of the rectum put pressure on the bladder and create the symptoms I described above ?

Is there much better advice out there? There is, but these days the industry has become sort of a medical idiocracy, shortening names to conditions such OAB (overactive bladder), BPH (Benign Prostatic Hyperplasia), and leave everyone in the dark on what's really going on.

It's just never that simple.

Here's a publication on the Pathophysiology of refractory overactive bladder, one possible set of causes.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30900373/

The only one mentioned that seemed remotely helpful was caffeine reduction, which does work in some cases.

For most people, a very deep dive into medical history and other info improves chances on many of the above issues. Sometimes they are all connected.

Would search this forum for the other issues, likely to turn up better options.

Either OAB or BPH are frequently not caused by what the poison industry alleges.

Hint, toxins and cortisol out of control usually has a lot to do with it.
One thing I can probably do is to reduce caffeine, because I may be taking too much(3 cups of filtered coffee almost everyday.) Not sure about "fluid intake modification" but bladder training and pelvic floor muscle training seem easy enough but not sure they'll actually help.  "Antimuscarinic or β3 -adrenoceptor agonist medications" not sure what these are. I might ask a doctor.

Although the abstract also says this :
"However, less than half of all cases achieve satisfactory outcomes following first-line treatment. Second-line therapy considered if satisfactory responses are not achieved after 8 to 12 weeks treatment with first-line therapy include intradetrusor botulinum toxin injection, neuromodulation, and surgical treatment. Patients with refractory OAB may have more severe symptoms or underlying pathophysiologies that were not resolved by the initial medication."

Seems like a pretty complex issue.

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Post  CausticSymmetry Wed Dec 22, 2021 9:20 am

Caffeine is considered an irritation to the bladder, so it will cause an urgency to go (even when there is little volume).

Then, not mentioned in the above at all, since it was "OAB" was cortisol effect on the prostate. It will exacerbate estrogen effect on the hyperplasia (enlarged cell size).

Cortisol reduction is a good focus too.


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Post  Nuada Wed Dec 22, 2021 10:07 pm

CausticSymmetry wrote:Caffeine is considered an irritation to the bladder, so it will cause an urgency to go (even when there is little volume).

Then, not mentioned in the above at all, since it was "OAB" was cortisol effect on the prostate. It will exacerbate estrogen effect on the hyperplasia (enlarged cell size).

Cortisol reduction is a good focus too.


I did a search on this site and I found quite alot from old threads. People(you also) mentioned Phosphatidylserine and Ashwagandha. I found a Phosphatidylserine supplement on a Turkish website.
https://www.vitaminler.com/urun/venatura-fosfotidilserin-ve-omega-3-30-kapsul-14771

It is sold with omega 3 in pill form and it has 300mg Phosphatidylserine and around 1000mg omega 3. It has 30 softgells. Is this a decent product ? If I were to use it, how long would I have to do so?

As for Ashwagandha, pills are too expensive. I could find it in dried root form though, although that is also a bit expensive.

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Post  CausticSymmetry Thu Dec 23, 2021 3:40 am

Ashwagandha is normally inexpensive.

I was shocked, out of curiosity I checked the conversion rates of Turkish Lira, it went as high
as 17.953 to USD and now hovering in the 12.5 region.

Was there in 2012 when it was only 1.7 to the USD.

Two studies referencing BPH with Ashwagandha in 2016, then a patent reference for
Phosphatidylserine

https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/84/db/25/f59e96dfecedaf/EP3311821A1.pdf





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Post  Nuada Fri Dec 24, 2021 10:12 am

CausticSymmetry wrote:Ashwagandha is normally inexpensive.

I was shocked, out of curiosity I checked the conversion rates of Turkish Lira, it went as high
as 17.953 to USD and now hovering in the 12.5 region.

Was there in 2012 when it was only 1.7 to the USD.

Two studies referencing BPH with Ashwagandha in 2016, then a patent reference for
Phosphatidylserine

https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/84/db/25/f59e96dfecedaf/EP3311821A1.pdf



Yeah sadly our economy is at the verge of a collapse. USD went up to 17.5TL and economists were foreseeing 20+ for the end of this year. But the goverment did some shady shit and brought it down somehow,. But the prices are still high, especially import products. And yeah, looking at the last 20 years tl/usd graph, it is pretty crazh. It was around 1.3-1.8 between 2001 and 2012.
Thanks for the study, I'll check that out.

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