So what are good ways to fix adrenal fatigue?

Odysseus wrote:Yup. I'll entertain the idea that the adrenals might "underperform", but only briefly. Endocrinologists refute the idea, basically saying that the adrenals either work or. . . .they don't.

Well, that settles it.  All endocrinologists REFUTE the idea.  Ody is speaking, of course, as an endocrinologist, right?  I'm entirely persuaded now that it's all in my head.  

I wonder if the endocrinologist who insisted that my TSH of 4.1 was nothing to worry about, that "subclinical  hypothyroid" was not a real condition, that a preponderance of hypothyriod symptoms meant nothing unless the blood test unequivocally indicated hypothyroid, and that the only test needed to diagnose hypothyroid was a TSH is one of these adrenal fatigue refuters.  Because his judgment was impeccable, his integrity unimpeachable, and his open-mindedness to the fact that maybe he didn't know everything there was to know about the human body beyond a doubt.   The man was credit to the Hippocratic oath.

DeadlyDevice wrote:I find it odd that whodathunkit got diagnosed with adrenal fatigue by a regular MD, when that is not even a recognized condition in allopathic medicine.

Well, goodness.   How terrible for you.  I'm so sorry that what my MD diagnosed me with and prescribed me supplements for and helped me overcome is something that isn't in line with your worldview.  I'll be sure to let her know that next time I see her.  It might provoke her to change some things in her practice.  Maybe even her entire paradigm/goal of integrating allopathic medicine with alternative diagnoses and therapies.  Because, she should know as we all should, that the world should kow-tow to the skeptics.

Seriously, Deadly, I hope you are not implying anything else about what I share here, other than you personally find it "odd".  Are you?

To be clear, I believe the term she uses in documentation is "adrenal insufficiency".  But to skeptics that is not acceptable, either.  And in conversation, we use adrenal fatigue and adrenal insufficiency interchangeably.

brah, try the salt water.  It can be a good first indicator that something may be wrong with your adrenals, without going through expensive tests.  Also, get the book by Dr. James Wilson.   It's got a lot of good background on adrenal fatigue, the physiology of it, and what you can do about it.  Not everything he says is correct (he advocates treating people with adrenal problems like delicate flowers, and goes way overboard with that), and IMO his supplements are crap, so don't buy them, but use his ideas.

I treat adrenal fatigue (insufficiency all the time), however to treat it depends on medical history, no two people are alike. No treatment is the same.

Reductionist's assume that endocrinologists know something.....Sorry to say, but they are woefully ignorant.

They're viewpoint or scope is too narrow, because they have been brought up within the lens of the pharmaceutical/medical industrial complex whose reference ranges are based on sick people.

There's a lot of hormones they know nothing about and only treat using their "approved" bag of tricks.

Things are so bad that the medical curriculum cannot be trusted.

I've explained numerous times that thyroid tests are a joke. The ones that work are ignored.
Even in cardiovascular disease, the best labs are ignored in favored of the least important.

The ignorance is beyond amazing. Reductionists know too little to get it.

whodathunkit wrote:

Odysseus wrote:Yup. I'll entertain the idea that the adrenals might "underperform", but only briefly. Endocrinologists refute the idea, basically saying that the adrenals either work or. . . .they don't.

Well, that settles it.  All endocrinologists REFUTE the idea.  Ody is speaking, of course, as an endocrinologist, right?  I'm entirely persuaded now that it's all in my head.  

I wonder if the endocrinologist who insisted that my TSH of 4.1 was nothing to worry about, that "subclinical  hypothyroid" was not a real condition, that a preponderance of hypothyriod symptoms meant nothing unless the blood test unequivocally indicated hypothyroid, and that the only test needed to diagnose hypothyroid was a TSH is one of these adrenal fatigue refuters.  Because his judgment was impeccable, his integrity unimpeachable, and his open-mindedness to the fact that maybe he didn't know everything there was to know about the human body beyond a doubt.   The man was credit to the Hippocratic oath.

DeadlyDevice wrote:I find it odd that whodathunkit got diagnosed with adrenal fatigue by a regular MD, when that is not even a recognized condition in allopathic medicine.

Well, goodness.   How terrible for you.  I'm so sorry that what my MD diagnosed me with and prescribed me supplements for and helped me overcome is something that isn't in line with your worldview.  I'll be sure to let her know that next time I see her.  It might provoke her to change some things in her practice.  Maybe even her entire paradigm/goal of integrating allopathic medicine with alternative diagnoses and therapies.  Because, she should know as we all should, that the world should kow-tow to the skeptics.

Seriously, Deadly, I hope you are not implying anything else about what I share here, other than you personally find it "odd".  Are you?

To be clear, I believe the term she uses in documentation is "adrenal insufficiency".  But to skeptics that is not acceptable, either.  And in conversation, we use adrenal fatigue and adrenal insufficiency interchangeably.

brah, try the salt water.  It can be a good first indicator that something may be wrong with your adrenals, without going through expensive tests.  Also, get the book by Dr. James Wilson.   It's got a lot of good background on adrenal fatigue, the physiology of it, and what you can do about it.  Not everything he says is correct (he advocates treating people with adrenal problems like delicate flowers, and goes way overboard with that), and IMO his supplements are crap, so don't buy them, but use his ideas.

The ENDOCRINOLOGISTS have spoken. Please do not dispute their findings. Never question the medical establishment.

(Couldn't find an emoticon that looked like a steaming pile of horseshit)

Whoa... hold on for a second.

First off, my point was that if she is operating under the principles of allopathic medicine which she, as an MD, probably is, that I don't see how she is allowed to diagnose you with a condition that isn't in the book. Doesn't that violate some kind of principle that could get you suspended? That's why I find it odd. Because people like that don't last very long in this field. Which is why most doctors who are serious about helping people abandon allopathic medicine and work as a private doctor under their own principles (i.e. naturopaths, holistic doctors, functional medicine, etc.).

That I am trying to imply what? I'm not saying you are lying, if that's what you mean.

And for what it's worth, I'm skeptic about both sides of this equation. Because, I don't think either one has the full answer, as per usual. So forgive me for not giving the alternative scene a free pass every time because they too, can sometimes make bogus diagnoses. This is coming from someone who only goes to doctors to order blood tests because I don't think they are capable for much else. I have hypothyroidism and have suffered from it quite a bit in the past 2 years, and treated it mostly by myself, because the endocrinologists have been largely useless. Hope that puts things into perspective.

All you guys are too busy arguing pointlessly. Why not get back to the chemistry and actually get somewhere with all these threads. Who cares what medical text considers a real condition or not. Get back to the point wich is hair loss and why you might have it.

4039 wrote:I like daily grounding/earthing for adrenal/kidney support. It evens out and normalizes all of those nasty cortisol spikes.

Is earthing legit? I might try it daily. Had my breakfast outside this morning with my bare foots on the grass for about 30 minutes, I gotta say I felt better than I usually do that early in the morning.

I read a few articles about earthing. It does make sense tbh and I think I could need it because I cant even remember the last time I was outside barefoot.

Can anyone else comment if this is actually good and not just bullshit?

After long time experimentation with both ''natural'' and ''artificial'' grounding techniques, i am positive that grounding works well, specially if using ''natural'' approach that usually also means lack of artificial EMF stress and sun rays. Being mostly exposed to the natural Earth's magnetic field and EMF from sunlight is actually necessarily in the sufficient amounts. It's not a therapy, but environment we were meant to work in. Again, use your ''behavior'' to make it right as too much UV can be quite damaging.

I am not 100% recovered, but i am feeling quite a deal better than before, progress did go through the roof for me after my adrenals were strong enough to support a full night of sleep, uninterrupted. I also hear that some people use iodine. But when i use this, i feel exhausted at the end of the day! Does anybody know why?

Good luck to everybody!

Any experiences with glucocorticoids? Hydrocortisone?

This nutritionist doesn't really like the term "Adrenal fatigue" but thinks its an important and hugely complex and misunderstood health issue. You scientific types might like this video -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWMFmOSi3Co

Dont know if this is good or not, havent listened to it, same nutritionist though -

http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2014/09/RIR-140905.php

Hi everyone!

Great talk ElmoSuper8, i couldn't have said it better. medical terms are in many cases to broad anyway and western medical science only deals symptom oriented, and we need solutions to root causes!

By the way science is an ever changing field, which changed its opinions quite often!

Elessar wrote:

4039 wrote:I like daily grounding/earthing for adrenal/kidney support. It evens out and normalizes all of those nasty cortisol spikes.

Is earthing legit? I might try it daily. Had my breakfast outside this morning with my bare foots on the grass for about 30 minutes, I gotta say I felt better than I usually do that early in the morning.

I read a few articles about earthing. It does make sense tbh and I think I could need it because I cant even remember the last time I was outside barefoot.

Can anyone else comment if this is actually good and not just bullshit?

It's not bullshit.  It was recommended to me by my integrative cardiologist to help thin the blood, as I have atrial fibrillation and can't take blood thinners.  Earthing is used by the Tour De France for recovery purposes.  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icZIZ5UUoOE

I think earthing is a pretty potent detox method, as I felt pretty lousy for about 2 weeks after I started sleeping on an earthing sheet.  I have lipomas ( an inherited condition of fatty tumors on the body) and they have been reducing in size. I'm also drinking green juice.

I'm drinking blood, like the Royal family. Really revitalizes the system.