Regrowth pics after 1 year

http://journals.lww.com/plasreconsurg/Fulltext/2010/11000/Treatment_of_Male_Pattern_Baldness_with_Botulinum.79.aspx?WT.mc_id=HPxADx20100319xMP
After

1 year on botox treatments; loosening the scalp muscles, nothing else. . Just click link and scroll down to thumbnail pics

Cant access those photos.

Link is broken

http://journals.lww.com/plasreconsurg/Fulltext/2010/11000/Treatment_of_Male_Pattern_Baldness_with_Botulinum.79.aspx?WT.mc_id=HPxADx20100319xMP

just scroll down and click on the thumbnails

That's insane. It must say that massaging the scalp will definitely help your process.

Growdamnit wrote:That's insane. It must say that massaging the scalp will definitely help your process.

This machine can be used to apply botox similarly to an injection, but not quite as much medicine gets where it needs to.
http://www.westmedics.com/dynatron-ibox-iontophoresis-delivery-device-ZIM1084MM329.html


I believe you can get botox for around $150 for 100 units. so it might be possible to give yourself botox "injections" if someone did enough research and figured out how to do it right. Or maybe we could even come up with a better botox alternative that would do the trick

Are these pictures of the same man over time or are these pictures of 4 different men with AA?

pretty crazy. im pretty convinced bloodflow is a major issue at this point after another study done on it somewhere else. i'm starting to do tom hagerty's scalp exercises along with massaging the sides of my scalp to try to loosen the galea on top.

tonyj wrote:Are these pictures of the same man over time or are these pictures of 4 different men with AA?

Nah, 2 different guys.

This stuff appears to be a botox alternative. It is a topical solution that causes muscle relaxation similar to botox injections. Hmmmm

http://www.amazon.com/IQ-Natural-Argireline-Anti-Aging-INJECTIONS/dp/B003I828EC/ref=sr_1_1?s=beauty&ie=UTF8&qid=1363105689&sr=1-1&keywords=argireline+products

Maybe it could be mixed with something like this to make a topical solution that could be massaged in

http://www.footsmart.com/P-Crampz-Spray-50548.aspx?srccode=WMGGLE1&cm_mmc=googplus-_-Default-_-s-_-5054800000000&kwid=productads-sku^50548%20000%2000%20000-adtype^pla-adid^23714561647

Here are some VERY interesting links that Ferox sent me

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=Scalp+Tension+Relaxer
http://www.takeda-medex.com/video.wmv

What is appalling to me is that they STILL won't give increased bloodflow the credit, saying it might be increased temperature or hemodynamics. Bullshit!

There is one reason and one reason only that MPB exists, poor blood flow to the galea region. If the environment were the same as the sides and back of the head, the hair up there would be the same thickness, no doubt in my mind. The other problems that manifest are able to because the area is weakened by poor oxygenation (tight scalp, poor circulation to the extremeties, weak vascular network, wearing a tight hat, lack of exercise, partially clogged acapillaries due to plaque, calcification etc.

This is the only theory that holds water in my book.

That Japanese headband thing from the link you posted (http://www.takeda-medex.com/video.wmv) is awesome! I want one of those now.

NeonMonk wrote:That Japanese headband thing from the link you posted (http://www.takeda-medex.com/video.wmv) is awesome! I want one of those now.

You can buy 'em in germany for around 500 euro

But really it cant be that hard to build something that produced the same effect.....

SlowMoe wrote:

NeonMonk wrote:That Japanese headband thing from the link you posted (http://www.takeda-medex.com/video.wmv) is awesome! I want one of those now.

You can buy 'em in germany for around 500 euro

But really it cant be that hard to build something that produced the same effect.....

That's really expensive, you could make something like that using a rope lol. Does that thing massage too? I was thinking of something similar to that but it would be cool if it also had little gyrating knobs where the large muscles in your head are. This way you could put it on and it would massage those tight muscles while simultaneously increasing blood flow. Obviously you would need to have it hooked up to a power supply then.

SlowMoe wrote:

NeonMonk wrote:That Japanese headband thing from the link you posted (http://www.takeda-medex.com/video.wmv) is awesome! I want one of those now.

You can buy 'em in germany for around 500 euro

A number of us were doing this back around 2009 and 2010 thanks to lava212. I've posted about this before but it seems to get buried in the threads. It's called occulsion training.

You can buy an oversized X-Large or so blood pressure cuff off of ebay for around $20 - $40 which is basically the same thing as the 500 euro device.

More info can be found if you google occlusion training for interesting info although it doesn't pertain to hair loss.