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Post  ubraj Tue Dec 06, 2011 12:54 pm

pancacke,

I posted about it on this forum and the other but have you tried 10 Hz? Info from here. http://www.earthpulse.net/ I really like it and run it most of the time now when the bean is next to me and wouldn't be surprised if it works for hair loss based on my resarch in LLLT... I use it on output II turned all the way up. The one closest to the adjustable knob.



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Post  pancacke Tue Dec 06, 2011 1:05 pm

hey jdp,

Never tried the frequency(maybe it is hiding in one of the scripts I use) but looks promising! Can you elaborate on the connection to LLLT?

I posted a script for demodex in another thread, which I added to my list for hairloss(although I don't think they are a big factor). Another one I think could be important is this one:
http://curezone.com/blogs/fm.asp?i=1675224
"Alters soft tissue to become a magnet for Hg, then the tissue becomes a breeding ground..."

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Post  ubraj Tue Dec 06, 2011 1:22 pm

Be careful with strep agalactiae! At least for me it really was horrible detox reaction. My hair loss wasn't measurable by the time I ran that script though but I wouldn't be surprised if it helps considering thallium causing hair loss and mercury is commonly bonded with thallium.

From the link I posted here is a very good quote regarding the connection between 10 Hz and LLLT benefits.

"In NASA study above, mitochondrial robustness due to 10 Hz stimulation ONLY provided the energy to support regeneration at 4 times baseline. Originally the paper showed 5 Hz and 15 Hz doubling cell regenerationwhile 10 Hz quadruped it.

Cells that are mature are literally "tricked" into believing they are younger than they are. Mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) may have been repaired through some unidentified mechanism or to adequate detoxification of mitochondrion itself or cell protoplasm within which the mitochondria reside."


Note how the T2 runs at 15 Hz. Note how newport's isolate posterior pineal runs at about 15 Hz.

When I first got my bean and ran the isolate posterior pineal, doctrine a couple other things my mind was opened up tremendously. M iridium also lit up my brain as well... better than any supplement ever has but other people may not get as good of benefits.


While I don't own a PEMF device I do have a pulsed magnet that I built called a Doug Coil. It runs frequencies 20 Hz and over and I can say that running 10 Hz on the bean my bet is it should be pretty similar to a PEMF device running at 10 Hz. You just don't get the benefits of a pulsed magnet would give like a mag pulser gives but you get the benefits of the frequency... which should be the quote I posted above IMO/IME.

edit: I tried the demodex script when I first got the Rife machine and believe there are some CAFL or similar frequencies but never saw any benefit.

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Post  ubraj Tue Dec 06, 2011 1:33 pm

By the way, here is an interesting site. This technology does work based on Dr. Lloyd's info and he has his own Static Gen II Dr. Lloyd's quote is at the bottom.




You can simulate static electricity as shown above. The static electricity produced can help you maintain a healthy body and away from diseases.

For this reason, almost all school students in Japan practice rubdown. Rubdown with a dry towel is one of easy way to produce static electricity and drive away the paranormal wave from the body. Do this rubdown motion several minutes a day.

HISTORY: Skin rubdown using a dry towel to scrub the whole body is a Japanese traditional procedure since hundreds of years ago. Massage therapy is effective in improving cellular immunity, and skin rubdown also have similar effects. Our ancestors knew it before our modern medical technology surfaced.

EXPERIMENTS: A study was conducted on sixteen bedridden old patients, who had suffered a cerebral stroke. Skin rubdown for about 10 minutes was added for 10 days. Blood was collected at noon on the day before skin rubdown, 5 and 10 days after initiation and 5 days after completion. The lymphocyte count, neutrophil count, serum gamma-globulin and C-reactive protein (CRP) levels and natural killer cell activity were also measured. In 9 of these 16 patients, B, T, CD4 and CD8 lymphocyte counts were additionally measured on the same days.

RESULTS: There were no significant changes in the time course of the lymphocyte count, gamma-globulin or CRP levels. The neutrophil count increased 10 days after initiation of the skin rubdown, and natural killer cell activity increased 5 and 10 days after initiation, and returned to the baseline level 5 days after completion. Although there were no changes in the time course of the B, T, CD4 and CD8 lymphocyte counts, the CD4/CD8 ratio showed an increase 5 days after initiation and completion.

CONCLUSIONS: Skin rubdown activates natural killer cells, which may be attributed to the effect of certain mediators released from the T lymphocytes or the stimulated effect on the sympathetic nerves. This technique may be used to reduce various complications caused by the decreased immunity observed in bedridden old patients.




As shown on the above photos, Japanese pupils are rubbing with a dry towel with each other. This practice is done in most schools.

You must do it as long as you want to keep yourself healthy every day. Short time trial of three days or so is ineffective at all. Rubdown with a dry towel on your body is the simplest way. However, after returning from heavy works in the office and factory, another work to rubdown is a hindrance for us. We want to rest and take a break. If there's a way to eradicate diseases while resting, would you like to apply the technique? That is also one of the reasons why PYRO-ENERGEN was invented.http://www.pyroenergen.com/history.htm

kidney cancer patient had been treating with an older F160 but he had
stopped treating several months ago and his BX virus (carcinoma) had
gone back up to 99.

He decided to try a static electricity and negative ion generator. He
put is feet on the unit and ran it for two hours a night for two weeks.
He used it after dark due to changes in the ionic layers of the
atmosphere at night that make it easier to kill viruses. (No, I do not
understand why this works!)

Yesterday his BX level was down to 37. The other cancer viruses also
plummeted. Pretty spectacular for just two weeks. He is not a mold
retainer and his very low mold toxin levels made this work much better.



My understanding is that this equipment, when used, keeps viruses from
duplicating. The advantage being that no frequencies are needed and all viruses
present are being treated at once. I have no idea how long it would take, using
this equipment, to eliminate a virus entirely. They get inside cells too. Keep
in mind that this equipment only affects viruses.

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Post  pancacke Wed Dec 07, 2011 3:26 am

rdkml wrote:Be careful with strep agalactiae! At least for me it really was horrible detox reaction. My hair loss wasn't measurable by the time I ran that script though but I wouldn't be surprised if it helps considering thallium causing hair loss and mercury is commonly bonded with thallium.
Thanks for the warning. Not only could Thallium be bounded but turning soft tissue(scalp included) into a breeding ground would certainly mean enough inflammation to get haiross, plus it may be the reason why the 'bald virus' is able to inhabitate the scalp in the first place.

When I first got my bean and ran the isolate posterior pineal, doctrine a couple other things my mind was opened up tremendously.
I had the very same experience....

You just don't get the benefits of a pulsed magnet would give like a mag pulser gives but you get the benefits of the frequency... which should be the quote I posted above IMO/IME.
Ok I give it a shot now, tomorrow I know more. You run a simply 10hz without any header and stuff correct?

Concerning the static electricity stuff, are we getting this from zapping as well?

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Post  pancacke Wed Dec 07, 2011 4:07 am

rdkml wrote:

Note how the T2 runs at 15 Hz. Note how newport's isolate posterior pineal runs at about 15 Hz.
They run at 15kHz or 15000hz....I was confused first, isn't 10khz the frequency most used by cafl?

I run this script now:
dwell 86400
10

Let's see how it goes...

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Post  ubraj Wed Dec 07, 2011 7:13 am

pancacke wrote:Not only could Thallium be bounded but turning soft tissue(scalp included) into a breeding ground would certainly mean enough inflammation to get haiross, plus it may be the reason why the 'bald virus' is able to inhabitate the scalp in the first place.

Yup, and other metals/positively charged metals and other pathogens.

GiGi is one of the smartest people I listen to and is a big believer in Dr. K's principles. Here is one of her quotes and is 100% spot on when it comes to treating metals with these pathogens.

"It takes eliminating the toxic metals from the jawbone thus helping perfusion and lack of oxygen before any infection can be cleared and more permanently so. Then you will get a handle on any of the multiple infections that are part of Lyme. Dental toxins from root canals are probably the worst, but detoxing metals and chemicals is a good start."

Speaking of cavitations here is one of her quotes. "Any of the 90 different types of Catscratch Disease/Bartonella cause the teeth to deteriorate from the inside out, without any cavities = calcification of the pulp from the inside narrowing the pulp channel leading to cavitations in the jaws."
http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=recent_user_posts;u=00000259

She's also right about this and there are a couple other pathogens as well. In general, one doesn't need to have a root canal for these cavitations to occur and I'm not sure if people on this forum realize. Spirochetes are even able to drill in the bone. Interesting how spirochetes or at least the lyme spirochete uses manganese for replication and that around cavitations it's shown there is a severe loss of manganese and zinc to the point of non existent.

I think most don't realize just how bad mold and mold/mycotoxins in house and food is also a huge issue with EMF/WiFi being connected as well but for another topic but always good to repeat for others.

From what I'm aware from the Pyro Energen site, static electricity would be completely different than having a zapper or F-165 hooked up to handholds. Something about voltage but with no current or something like that. But I have no experience with the Pyro Energen. It's said viruses only need a couple seconds at their mortal oscillating rate/MOR to get killed so things like static, multiwave oscillators or frequency generators/zappers that sweep through frequencies twice a day is said to work very well... viruses replicate fast...

Regarding 10 Hz, yeah, no header or anything needed. The PEMF device in that link uses square waves and the F-165 uses square waves unless programmed otherwise.

If you aren't aware you don't need access to your computer to run it. You can put in 10 Hz on the F-165 itself which is easy to do this way. To do on the F-165 all you do is turn it on, hit 5, hit 10, hit enter. When your done just hit Run to stop the frequency. It's easy running frequencies this way.

Yes, 10000 Hz/10K Hz is very well liked and does work well. Similar the other octaves or whatever it's called of 5000 Hz, and 20000 Hz are also used. In general, 20000 Hz is used for anti aging. 5000 Hz is used for lymph drainage and 10000 Hz is used for blood circulation. Among other benefits as well.


The T2 runs as 15 Hz and newport's isolate posterior pineal at 15333.333. One way to lower a higher frequency to a lower frequency is to move the decimal over 3 places is what I've learned from the Doug Coil guys. Most frequencies don't work but a few definitely do. Course it's not as good as dividing by 2 or Jeff Sutherland's scalar ocataves.


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Post  ubraj Wed Dec 07, 2011 7:20 am

By the way, regarding the T2 besides changing out the batteries every 12 hours or so cleaning the copper contacts is also very good. A little bit of ketchup on the copper contacts left on for a couple minutes and then you can wipe away works very well.

Also, FWIW, here is my list of websites that I keep for frequencies.

http://www.stenulson.net/althealth/stimfreq.htm
http://www.rexresearch.com/rife/freqlist1.htm
http://www.frequencyrising.com/royalrife_frequencies.htm
http://www.soundhealingcenter.com/frequency.html
http://www.rifedigital.com/frequency.pdf
http://www.royalrife.com/freq.html
http://www.lymeprotocol.com/assets/pdf/rife%20freaks%20appendix.pdf
http://altered-states.net/barry/newsletter131/index.htm
http://healingtools.tripod.com/WSR_freq_man.html

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Post  pancacke Wed Dec 07, 2011 12:33 pm

Very nice collection! I get back to you tomorrow on all that info, but just a quick question:
Did you recognise any pain in your breast or upper back area when running 10hz.
I was like 2 hours in and suddenly I get this pain, like when your muscles are irritaded from laying down in the wrong position......

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Post  elan164 Wed Dec 07, 2011 2:53 pm

JDP, have you tried the lyme cocktail?

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Post  ubraj Wed Dec 07, 2011 5:03 pm

pancacke,

Not in that area but when I've messed around with similar benefits as 10 Hz, I have experienced soreness as if I had a moderate workout. It will eventually pass and is a good sign IMO/IME. For me, it's mostly in my legs.

In short, it's like the soreness that some LLLT users have reported, IMO.

elan164,

I haven't tried the lyme cocktail. If I had more money and was ill, I definitely would try it. I bet it's very good based on the experiences of others. Liposomal also appears to be good but I prefer to zappicate my supplements as the taste of liposomal is pretty hard for me to get use to. For others, they can always put a wire around their supplements and have it hooked up to their T2 or similar device. newport mentioned that about Lugol's on Trapper's forum recently and may give part of benefits as zappicating.

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Post  pancacke Thu Dec 08, 2011 3:08 am

rdkml wrote:By the way, regarding the T2 besides changing out the batteries every 12 hours or so cleaning the copper contacts is also very good. A little bit of ketchup on the copper contacts left on for a couple minutes and then you can wipe away works very well.
That's a good tip and works really well for me!

Also, FWIW, here is my list of websites that I keep for frequencies.

http://www.stenulson.net/althealth/stimfreq.htm
http://www.rexresearch.com/rife/freqlist1.htm
http://www.frequencyrising.com/royalrife_frequencies.htm
http://www.soundhealingcenter.com/frequency.html
http://www.rifedigital.com/frequency.pdf
http://www.royalrife.com/freq.html
http://www.lymeprotocol.com/assets/pdf/rife%20freaks%20appendix.pdf
http://altered-states.net/barry/newsletter131/index.htm
http://healingtools.tripod.com/WSR_freq_man.html
Thank you, I haven't seen any of those other than the royalrife_frequencies...


Not in that area but when I've messed around with similar benefits as 10 Hz, I have experienced soreness as if I had a moderate workout. It will eventually pass and is a good sign IMO/IME. For me, it's mostly in my legs.

In short, it's like the soreness that some LLLT users have reported, IMO.
Yup workout is a good metaphor, I'm still a little sore the next day......I remember the same thing when I used cafl frequencies with the wrong header.

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Post  Yanks Thu Dec 08, 2011 6:32 am

Pancake/JDP, I'm on SCD Intro Phase right now (again) and have been experiencing some bad asthma. I believe I have some fluid in my lungs now and experience other detox symptoms here and there like irritability, weakness, headaches etc. I'm on day 3 right now and have only been doing meat (chicken/beef cooked in water making broth, but not adding veggies or bones bc of convienence) and juice (concorde grape/apple cider). I'm going to add legal yogurt back in the rotation in a few weeks.

Do you have any suggestions for RIFE frequencies to address the fluid in lung symptoms I'm having? Any idea what pathogen this could be acting up? I'm hoping the symptoms will pas so quickly so I can move onto stage 2.

Also, do you think not eating the gelatin or consuming a lot of sugar in the form of pure juice could be at all detrimental at this stage?
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Post  pancacke Thu Dec 08, 2011 7:23 am

Yanks, no idea on SCD but I would add the vegetables and fruits that are allowed for you......defnitly add legal yoghurt!

Concerning asthma, I don't know about frq. but high dose KI should help. Zapping is always a good idea when you can't figure out which pathogen bothers you...

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Post  ubraj Thu Dec 08, 2011 8:01 am

Yanks,

IME, all those symptoms sound like an immune reaction to something you are doing. Most likely one or more of the foods you are consuming is causing it. If you cut yourself or prick your finger and your blood clots very fast and where your blood looks closer to tar than a nice bright red then I bet it's this.

It's hard to know which food would be causing that for you so can only give my experience. Chicken would be the #1 culprit for me. The fruit juice would be a distant second.

You could also be reacting to the mold/mycotoxins in the food.

In the future, IMO/IME, I would lay off all fruit juice and drink water instead. Beware of a lot of chicken. Beef is better. Low fat beef is best. If you can afford it, grass fed may be even better.

Anyhow, as far as frequencies, you can try 5000 Hz and/or 10000 Hz and/or newport's lymph drainage script.

I would also recommend to place a scarf around your neck to improve the CCSVI symptoms. It'll probably make you feel better.

The question about the gelatin I don't know but the high sugar may cause problems.

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Post  Yanks Sun Mar 18, 2012 8:29 am

hey pancake,

i have a few questions about your supplement regimen...

1) What is the significance of vit B2 (rhiboflaven) compared to the full spectrum of B's in the hair loss game?

2) I see you take phosphate, from what I BELIEVE is the opposite of what the Ray Peat/Droddy movement is suggesting. Just thought some discussion on this would be insightful as I thnk Peat suggestes high calcium/phosphate ratio. Hopefully ABC and other peatatarians will weigh in

3) In regard to Cutler protocol. Do you believe this is safer/more effective than the other methods CS has suggested like : OSR (which suggests specifically over DMSA), humifulv, MCP, selenium, iodine. How about EDTA for cal deposits? Would this work better in the calcium areas than DMSA?

4) AOR mag/potassium aspartate vs the mag/potassium in DEcalcify... any reason one would be better for hair loss than the other?
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Post  pancacke Mon Mar 19, 2012 1:08 am

Yanks wrote:hey pancake,

i have a few questions about your supplement regimen...

1) B2 is synergetic with B3/niacin, niacin giving more bloodflow.
2) natphos is only a homeopathy....
3) Only tried DMSA, iodine selenium as well of course, but no MCP huifulv edta etc.....IMO humifulvate looks like a scam and is no real chelator! Concerning the safty, DMSA is totally fine if you stick to the protocol.
4) For one mag aspartate doesn't feed l-form bacteria other forms generally do. For the second potassium aspartate removes thallium from brain and heart.....good for hairloss

My "supplement regimen" is pretty much dead btw., DMSA for chelation but the rest only as needed. No signs of hairloss or need to try something else, hence I have not much to post :(

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Post  Yanks Mon Mar 19, 2012 4:03 am

Awesome! Thank you! I'll be looking into B2 and potassium/magnesium aspartate as well as Cutler protocol. where do you get your DMSA from?
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Post  dreft Fri Mar 23, 2012 8:15 am

imprisoned, did you continue your idea of getting rid of those pathogens form the script with herbs? If so, can you share your progress?
Thank you!

pancake, on that script there is only one freq above 1.5 Mhz (F125's limit). Can't the 125 be used instead of the 165, except that around 28Mhz freq?
It has a .01freq res and only two channels (maybe some more differences that I missed), but for this specific hair loss script won't it work?
Thank you!

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Post  pancacke Sun Mar 25, 2012 12:28 am

mihai wrote:pancake, on that script there is only one freq above 1.5 Mhz (F125's limit). Can't the 125 be used instead of the 165, except that around 28Mhz freq?
It has a .01freq res and only two channels (maybe some more differences that I missed), but for this specific hair loss script won't it work?
Thank you!
Skipping through the scripts I haven't seen any that need all 3 channels...not sure if the resolution is good enough. By all means try it if you have a f125 or upgrade to f165 for 600$. This might help to calculate the frqs you can't use:
http://curezone.com/blogs/fm.asp?i=1554601#i

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Post  dreft Thu Mar 29, 2012 6:33 pm

pancacke wrote:
Skipping through the scripts I haven't seen any that need all 3 channels...not sure if the resolution is good enough. By all means try it if you have a f125 or upgrade to f165 for 600$. This might help to calculate the frqs you can't use:
http://curezone.com/blogs/fm.asp?i=1554601#i

Thanks for that link, it also gives an explanation about the freq resolution.

Did you test your device or saw a test somewhere regarding the 4-8 decimal resolution?...it can really generate a signal that accurate?

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