Ketogenic Diet-share your opinion if you tried it!

would love some opinions on this!

I've eliminated carb based foods, apart from fruit, and feel better for it. I realise that carbs just bloat me and make me feel tired

Experiences: hair loss, mild rosacea, dandruff, thyroid shut down, adrenal overload, blood shot eyes, sinus blockage, mild scurvy.

Could not handle low carb, adrenaline surges, fatigue, irritability were too much to bare.

Whoa, this is crazy... Sometimes I wonder if people on this board read minds... I just started ketogenic diet a few weeks ago. I feel great. But I would not go 0 carb - I believe that is a disaster waiting to happen. You will have a hard time sustaining it.


My diet consists of fish, chicken, whole eggs, veggies (romaine lettuce, spinache, broccoli, peas, green beans), all natural peanut butter 1 tablespoon in between meals for energy as a snack (no more than twice a day). For fats, I use olive oil or real mayonnaise (no sugar added) at meals - no more than 1 Tablespoon per meal. I also allow myself to substitue the snacks with a 1 ounce piece of 0 carb monterey jack cheese instead of the PB.

I am currently taking in roughly 10 net carbs a day, the rest of my diet is primairly fat (60 percent or so) and protein (35 percent or so). I feel really good and actually I typically suffer from Rosacea. I haven't noticed any major problems since starting. I have been sleeping better too.

I think the key with Keto is to get enough fat in your diet for energy and get enough calories. Don't undereat. The first few weeks your body is in shock, because it switches from using sugar/carbs as energy to fat/stored fat. Also, I would avoid fruit if you are doing Keto - at least at the beginning.

"unfortunate" you're consuming a bit to much protein, try to eat more organ meats...try to reduce protein intake to 20-25%..as you said "I think the key with Keto is to get enough fat in your diet for energy and get enough calories. Don't undereat."...so eat more fat and moderate your protein intake...1g protein per pound of bodyweight is the standard....but going just a bit over this won't be a problem..just keep it moderate and try to introduce more organ meats, bone broth...

tudor wrote:"unfortunate" you're consuming a bit to much protein, try to eat more organ meats...try to reduce protein intake to 20-25%..as you said "I think the key with Keto is to get enough fat in your diet for energy and get enough calories. Don't undereat."...so eat more fat and moderate your protein intake

You may be right, I'm not exactly sure of the percentages to be accurate, but my protein intake is roughly my body weight in grams per day. I also heavy lift.

I could never handle eating fat as my highest % macro nutrient. jdp also advocates low fat diets to combat a specific biofilm, or biofilms in general, not sure which.

Peat recommends roughly 90g minimum protein to aid the thyroid I believe, although this figure can greatly vary depending on size, activity level etc..

Unfortunate - Your diet also sounds highish in PUFA, which, if you believe Peat's articles, are not good.

http://raypeat.com/articles/articles/unsaturated-oils.shtml
"Unsaturated oils, especially polyunsaturates, weaken the immune system's function in ways that are similar to the damage caused by radiation, hormone imbalance, cancer, aging, or viral infections."


http://raypeat.com/articles/articles/unsuitablefats.shtml
"By the 1940s, the polyunsaturated oils, including fish oils, were known to cause deterioration of the brain, muscles, and gonads in a variety of animals, and this was found to be caused mainly by their destruction of vitamin E."

In my opinion eating a ketogenic diet should be in the cold seasons and going back to loish carb intake in the rest of the time..going on a ketogenik diet is beneficial but don't think that for long periods of time...i'm trying to go for 2 months...asses how i'm feeling and then go for a paleo low-moderate "safe" starch consumption aproach next 2-3 months..asses how i'm feeling and decide when i feel better

This is extremely interesting to me. I am considering moving toward a ketogenic diet. I also feel intuitively that for short periods of time, or certain seasons of the year it will be beneficial. I am currently on a very balanced diet of roughly 40C/30P/30F and I've seen benefits with it, but I am extremely sugar sensitive and want to experiment with lower sugar intake to see if there are any benefits. I know this forum is extremely divided on the matter and I've seen evidence that supports both sides, so really the best way is to experiment on one's own and listen carefully to your body.

But I am concerned about the biofilm aspect of a high fat diet. I am currently trying to put together a program for reducing biofilm and I don't want to sacrifice the success of this. I find myself frustrated by how difficult it is trying to accomplish multiple health goals at the same time. But here is what seems to be a contradiction staring me right in the face. Oil pulling is advocated by many members of the forum and has been used in ayurvedic medicine for centuries to promote oral health, so if fat was truly something that caused biofilms (plaque) to proliferate, wouldn't the act of oil pulling cause worse dental plaque rather than benefit the oral cavity?