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Post  MikeGore Tue Dec 07, 2010 4:04 pm

I was wondering is there any effect of combing on hair loss?

I know there is such a thing called traction alopecia. But why is it that hair loss usually starts at the area where the hair is parted?

This is just an idea, all for the sake of trying to stop hair loss, so I hope you guys have some suggestions.

Now one thing I have noticed, is that most people start hair loss with the front. In another post, I had mentioned that certain type of hair or head shapes seem to be less likely to have hairloss. I don't know if any of you have noticed this. Maybe its not about the headshape but the grooming that matters. Some hair styles don't have the partting where you comb left or right. People with these hair type seem to suffer less hair loss IMO.

So what if the receding hairline and the horse shoe pattern is because, people progressively comb the hair further back and parting from further on the top. Maybe the reason why the hairs on the lower side of the head don't usually fall, is because they suffer the least resistance when being combed.

I'd like to know, people that have hair loss on the top or the crown, do you remember which part of your head you combed the most before hair loss began? Where do you have hair loss the most? Which part do you comb the least?

And I've noticed that people who usually have a long hair cut ( I mean who don't go to the barber and cut their hairs rather short) have better hair (well obviously, duh!). But what if its actually got something to do with combing. Could it be, the longer the hair the least resistance during combing?

Women having long hair, are probably less likely to damage the follicles due to resistance. They use different types of combs and brushes which actually may stimulate blood circulation. Men on the other hand have short hair that is 'harder' which probably causes more resistance.

Maybe one of the reasons that homeless people living on the streets have such great hair, is because they never comb it!

What about other countries where there is less hair loss. I wonder how they groom their hair.

Is there anyone who actually thought their hairs looked better after not combing it for a while? Or perhaps a change to a hair brush?

Question: How many of you here, typically preferred short cut hair at the barber?

I know this may all be bullshit, just wanted some opinions.

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Post  fender89 Tue Dec 07, 2010 4:23 pm

would be cool if this were true but..

I have hairloss, am 21, hairloss started at 19. I loved to keep my hair super shaggy looking, never combed it in my life. Just let it be free so. Just hope my hair dosn't get much worse pale

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Post  phoenix21 Tue Dec 07, 2010 5:02 pm

22 here, my hairloss started around 17. Dont remember combing it much in the past 10 years, maybe one in a great while. My hairloss is primarily in the form of a receding hairline, so at least in my case, I can't attribute the hairline recession to combing.

It could be a small factor for some. I think that aggressive daily combing could possibly contribute to sebum overproduction, which we know can be a problem. At the same time, Ive heard that some combing is good. It can supposedly keep the oil spread evenly along the shaft. I guess its one of those things you might need to keep in moderation.

In regards to traction alopecia, I think this is mostly a problem for people who braid their hair for long periods, or routinely keep their hair in supertight ponytails. Of course, if you were susceptible to MPB, and were just starting to bald, im sure this could speed things up.

My guess is that for most of us, grooming has little to do with our hairloss. Maybe its just a few drops of gas on an already roaring fire. If you think that it might be a bigger factor for you, definitely switch it up for a while, it couldnt hurt any. Just my 2 cents.



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Post  barefoot Wed Dec 08, 2010 6:20 am

Here is a slightly different way to look at it. It is said (I don't know who) that, on the average, women brush their hair 30-to 50 times more often than men.

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Post  tooyoung Wed Dec 08, 2010 6:23 am

Never brush my hair, hair loss front and back.

I believe a woman regrew some hairline and claimed it was from brushing it with a boar bristle brush multiple times a day...

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Post  Decro435 Wed Dec 08, 2010 8:19 am

Brushing will not case hair loss. It will promote circulation and make hair look healthier by distributing the natural oils around the hair.

This is the woman one of you guys was talking about (Original Hairline):
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Finished Hairline:
http://home-and-garden.webshots.com/photo/2208874330038665658VaxhfC

Her website:
http://recedinghairline.blogspot.com/2005/06/my-true-story.html
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Post  tooyoung Wed Dec 08, 2010 9:11 am

Yeah I think that was the one Decro. Was going to search for that later, thanks for posting.

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Post  phoenix21 Wed Dec 08, 2010 4:15 pm

I definitely agree that various things that promote circulation are probably good for hairloss. BUT... IMHO these things are only good if youve got the inside under control. What i mean is, if youve got high levels of DHT or other inflammatory factors, you could potentially be making things worse by bringing them more quickly to the follicle.

Was experimenting with scalp exercises for a while, during that time I saw some acceleration in hairloss. This could be coinicidence, but was enough to steer me away from it for now.

Personally, I think it would be wise to get the inside under control before messing with circulation promoting techniques. Just a thought.

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Post  mphatesmpb Wed Dec 08, 2010 7:35 pm

Are you talking about Tom Hagerty's scalp exercises?
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Post  barefoot Thu Dec 09, 2010 1:07 am

For brushing and massages to have any positive effect, certain conditions have to be met otherwise the hair will just fall out. The condition can be met by any of the few ways.
Anatomically: by castration (I AM SERIOUS)
Biochemically: take drugs
Environmentally: live in the jungle
Physiologically: xxxx xx xxxxxx

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Post  phoenix21 Thu Dec 09, 2010 2:06 am

mpbhatesmpb - yes, was talking about hagerty's exercises

barefoot - what is meant by this? -
Physiologically: xxxx xx xxxxxx

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Post  barefoot Thu Dec 09, 2010 9:53 pm

xxxx xx xxxxxx is a can't be said in one page - about 23 pages I think in the book.

Aside from your psyche, your physiology is at the center of your existence. Male hormones (biochemicals) affect your physiology NOT hair follicles. Your environment (modern civilization) affect your physiology. Your behavior affect your physiology. Physical activity affect your physiology.

The secret is knowing how to counter and use to your advantage the effect of hormones, environment and behavior. If you don't want to 'neutralize' male hormones by castration or with drugs or live in the jungle, the last option would be a change in behavior. If you mimic the behavior of any of the following men, then your chances of preventing hair loss will be extremely high:
1) hunter gatherer men;
2) 40+year-old, fully haired, normotensive men
3) adolescent boys outside of classrooms

That will be easier said than done but this approach has been the center piece of the author's studies. He is a physiologists. Over the last few decades, fewer and fewer take up physiology in favor of biomedical science because that's where the money is. You'll be lucky to meet one. Many NASA physicians are physiologists.

How else can I say that misterE never really understood what he read. It's obvious that he not only skim the pages, he skip the sections he couldn't understand.

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Post  phoenix21 Sat Dec 11, 2010 10:06 am

thanks for posting barefoot.

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Post  mphatesmpb Fri Dec 17, 2010 4:23 pm

http://www.naturalhealthtechniques.com/healingtechniques/dry_brushing_technique.htm

Brushing can promote lymphatic flow and elimination of waste acids.
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