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Post  barefoot Tue Dec 14, 2010 3:17 pm

Native with the same number are one and the same person.

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Post  Guest Tue Dec 14, 2010 4:39 pm

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The direction that this thread is taking is reminding me of this picture, skinny and malnourished, not so good for the hair.

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Post  nidhogge Tue Dec 14, 2010 5:27 pm

Action-reaction's one sentence is more informative than this thread. Smile Posting pictures of malnourished men with bad hair will only bolster the theory that diet and hair loss are linked to one another.

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Post  Guest Tue Dec 14, 2010 5:29 pm

nidhogge wrote:Action-reaction's one sentence is more informative than this thread. Smile Posting pictures of malnourished men with bad hair will only bolster the theory that diet and hair loss are linked to one another.

I feel very strong about this, in more ways than I care to elaborate on as this is Barefoot's thread and I'd like to hear what he has to say, but diet serves an extremely important function along with vitamin D that I think most of us are beyond currently, going back to the fact that diet before you're sick and after being two very different ball games.

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Post  abc123 Tue Dec 14, 2010 5:44 pm

fender89 wrote:some of the hairloss is blatent MPB though, and MPB is NOT induced by poor nutrition. If it was that, the hair would thin all over, not just the MPB pattern.

nutritional imbalances can't dis-regulate dht?

I see what you're saying btw and to a large extent I agree.

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nidhogge wrote:Action-reaction's one sentence is more informative than this thread. Smile Posting pictures of malnourished men with bad hair will only bolster the theory that diet and hair loss are linked to one another.

I feel very strong about this, in more ways than I care to elaborate on as this is Barefoot's thread and I'd like to hear what he has to say, but diet serves an extremely important function along with vitamin D that I think most of us are beyond currently, going back to the fact that diet before you're sick and after being two very different ball games.

Disagree with this statement. Unless severely damaged, the body is capable of amazing feats if you give it what it needs. Sun, diet, no stress, sleep in darkness. I've halted my hairloss focusing on those 4 aspects.

Have you ever tried a carnivore/inuit type diet for an extended period of time? Would need 3-6months minimum. Would stop hairloss imo. Anything with 0 omega 6, fructose, antinutrients would have a shot at it.

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Post  Guest Tue Dec 14, 2010 5:46 pm

Hey abc, trust me when I say that that statement goes very very deep, otherwise I would have stated my exact meaning. I don't dare try to explain what I meant by it because it's already been explained by others, and is partly the reason why I have been flaunting research by jdp.

And I totally agree, an inuit type diet for a lot of us would definitely help! I'm lucky to have access to a lot of wild game.

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Post  phoenix21 Wed Dec 15, 2010 4:16 am

im wondering if bale's hair thinned from the dieting or if they intentionally did that to his hair to fit the character. Hes always had great hair, my guess is its the latter. He's an actor that really likes to get deep into character.

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Post  Guest Wed Dec 15, 2010 5:21 am

phoenix21 wrote:im wondering if bale's hair thinned from the dieting or if they intentionally did that to his hair to fit the character. Hes always had great hair, my guess is its the latter. He's an actor that really likes to get deep into character.

Hey Phoenix.

This wouldn't come as a surprise to me either, Bale is an incredibly tenacious guy, still, time (not to mention the paparazzi) will tell.

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Post  barefoot Wed Dec 15, 2010 6:37 pm

action-reaction wrote:
The direction that this thread is taking is reminding me of this picture, skinny and malnourished, not so good for the hair.
Action-reaciont's one-liner is hearsay because the guy in the post is not even bald or balding. Smile The guy's health condition is also arguable - malnourishment is ASSOCIATED with being skinny. But being skinny is not necessarily an indication of malnourishment. In fact, they are likely to live longer which begs the question 'how do you define malnourishment'. Obesity is also ASSOCIATED with MPB.

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Post  barefoot Wed Dec 15, 2010 6:40 pm

abc123 wrote: ... Unless severely damaged, the body is capable of amazing feats if you give it what it needs. Sun, diet, no stress, sleep in darkness. I've halted my hairloss focusing on those 4 aspects...
abc123, I agree with your method but the trick is how to face up to stress without losing hair because stress is unavoidable to 85% of the population including you sometime in the future. And I still keep wondering why you called me stupid Smile

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Post  Guest Wed Dec 15, 2010 6:43 pm

I didn't really post that picture to prove anything, just found it interesting that Bale's Hair would look so degraded after he lost that weight. It looks very fine, downy, whispy, and dead. Coincidence? we will more than likely never know in his case.
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Post  barefoot Wed Dec 15, 2010 7:03 pm

I have my observations are stored here. You can download it but it's password protected for now. Purpose: So no one can say I stole his observation. Smile
Only teacup seems to have a researcher's brain but, due to lack of knowledge of the guiding principles of scientific research, he failed my exam. Smile

But really, is that all you guys can muster for purposes of research? You seem too focused on dietary factors based on one native's health issue? And we don't even know what they're eating?

People only see what they want to see. Your eyelids are open but your minds seem closed. Tunnel-vision is bad for your hair.

At this point, I don't think any of you deserve a researcher's hat.Smile Or maybe you should try again except for nidhogge. And I'm waiting for Armando-Jose's observation since he first pointed to these pictures. I'm just revving it up.Book Review and Synopsis: I Broke the Mystery of Male Pattern Baldness - Page 3 Bb2a10

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Post  barefoot Wed Dec 15, 2010 7:44 pm

Yes, i agree that Bale in the blue shirt compared to the pic above (whoever he is Smile) seem to be undernourished. His eating habit could have been affected by lifestyle diseases such as drug abuse.

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Post  Armando Jose Wed Dec 15, 2010 8:57 pm

Dear Si;
Excuse me the delay in my answer to your question about the photographs.
This post is very interesting and many people, including me, can learn a lot about the possible real cause of common hair loss / MPB.
Regarding the photo puzzle, I want to point out that:
- I don’t think that this people are undernourishment and if it could be the case, hair loss it would be diffuse, not patterned.
- The man numbered 4 and 5 is the same. He suffers hair loss in the crown and he have receding front line. He is the son of the mummy.
- Probably the child numbered 7 and 11 is the same, only he has different clothes. It is interesting to note that the wooden skirt in this tribe is nowadays adopted by all the members, like guy numbered 10, but it is wear in particular moments as the visit of the foreigner people.
- The man number 3 have a good condition and his hair is good, only receding line front but it is possible that it could be normal, genetic heritage. He has a dense and thick hair. The same for the man numbered 1.
- The old man numbered 2, clearly suffer common alopecia in the high Norwood grade.
- The child number 7 has a shaved scalp with no hair. This is in my opinion a date to study deeply. In my theory problems with sebum flow can be the main and initial cause of the problem. Shaved scalp hair is not good to maintain healthy hair, only we can think about tonsure, a practice of certain religious ordains, where all people lost the hair mainly in the crown if it is repetitive.
- Also I would like comment about the hair of the two women that it is decorated with petals, and also of the gridding machine (manual or electric powered?) used with the red fruits and seed to obtain the orange paste used with the mummy….
- Also I have photos of a report of another tribe in the Amazonian area (Palawan’s in Venezuela, recorder in 1973) where it can be seen the shave of crown using a palm tree leave. Initially the practice of shaving hair could be supported by hygienic issues (parasites) or even to separate us from the other apes. We are the naked ape but not necessary the bald ape. With evolution we miniaturized body hair (different that lost hairs) but we improved the scalp hair.

I would like very much to have a conversation face to face with anyone, barefoot or CS, because you have an open mind with a scientific background. My English is not as good as I should want, so excuse my mistake but I understand all you say.

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Post  Armando Jose Wed Dec 15, 2010 9:32 pm

http://www.rtve.es/alacarta/la2/temas/documentales/2.html#810724
here can be seen the effect of tonsure in order to develop crown hair loss.
it was recorded in 1973 by Rodriguez de la Fuente,

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Post  Armando Jose Wed Dec 15, 2010 9:37 pm

http://platea.pntic.mec.es/~jalvar4/yano/guerrero.htm

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Post  Armando Jose Wed Dec 15, 2010 9:57 pm

Here the special form to shave the hair scalp with a palm tree leaf
min 20:30
Sorry for the lenght of the documental, but I think it is interesting
http://www.rtve.es/mediateca/videos/20101214/hombre-la-tierra-serie-venezolana-los-yanomamos-pueblo-la-selva/964162.shtml

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Post  Nuada Fri Dec 17, 2010 4:14 am

actionBook Review and Synopsis: I Broke the Mystery of Male Pattern Baldness - Page 3 Christian-Bale-s-Massive-Weight-Loss-for-The-Fighter-Role-2

The direction that this thread is taking is reminding me of this picture, skinny and malnourished, not so good for the hair.

I am sure his hair is styled for his latest movie "the fighter." They probably tried to make him look 'bald'.

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Post  fender89 Fri Dec 17, 2010 3:45 pm

There's no point in "researching" anything about that collage of native people. Most of them are old, and surprise surprise most have MPB. wow, that's really weird and deserves further looking into?! Oh wait, no it dosn't. and no it's not weird. What WOULD be weird, is if they all had amazing full heads of hair. Then definitly, that would merit abit of research huhuhu. And nobody is malnourished there seriously. They are skinny, being skinny is not malnourishment. They are just old and skinny.

By all means keep analysing the pictures though if you must. not here to stop you just stating my opinion! Very Happy

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Post  barefoot Fri Dec 17, 2010 5:57 pm

tsk, tsk. fender89, I hope that kind of thinking doesn't represent the other forumers. I won't be surprised if you haven't found out what's causing yours! Very Happy

This analysis is for Armando-Jose who made a conclusion based on one picture. Like I said, I'm just revving it up with more pictures from the same source.

Anyway, I've created a new thread because this one pretty messed up.
Here book-review-synopsis-i-broke-the-mystery-of-male-pattern-baldness

Read my meticulous analysis and learn how to find out what's causing yours!

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Post  ferox Sun Dec 16, 2012 11:18 pm

Also that book states that restricted bloodflow is one main causes of MPB. Did anybody read that book? Seems to be very interesting!

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