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Post  CausticSymmetry Mon Nov 01, 2010 9:09 am

Several months ago I quietly mentioned that Parental Essential Oils are more important than "Essential Fatty Acids."

We will be witnessing a very slow and gradual shift from prior emphasis on fish oil to now instead, the preferred Parental Omega-6 and -3 fatty acids. In other words, new research proves that we are not getting enough Parental Oils and it will take a long time for most people to learn this!

Warning: Most physicians and nutritional experts will not know about this for some time! (Maybe ten years)

What is the difference? What most people call "EFA's" or Essential Fatty Acids are actually derivatives.

The term “Parent Essential Oils” refers to the only two true essential fatty acids: parent omega-6 (LA) and parent omega-3 (ALA). The term “parent” is used because these are the whole, unadulterated form of the only two essential fats your body demands, as they occur in nature. Once PEOs are consumed your body changes a small percentage of them—about 5%—into other biochemicals called “derivatives,” while leaving the remaining 95% in parent form.

Why is this important?

It's important because when most people purchase supplements that are supposed to be "essential fatty acids" they are really buying derivatives, and often at poor ratios. The parental form is very much needed, not just the derivatives!

PEO's are critical for artery flexibility (research shows it will reduce the age of your system by ten years!), and it is critical for oxygen transport. If you're short on these PEO's you can have your oxygen transport reduced by up to 35% and if that is the case, anything else that goes wrong can cause serious problems.

We are supposed to have a valuation of 2.5 times the Parental Omega-6 fatty acids to Parental Omega-3.

That is to say, we should consume 2.5 times the amount of Linoleic acid to Alpha Linoleic Acid.

Today, we are deficient in Parental Omega-3 and -6 fatty acids.

How?

Most "foods" that contain Parental Omega-6 and -3 oils are adulterated. That is to say that have been processed, or damaged by light, heat, or oxygen.

When you buy any oil from the supermarket, they are already damaged. If it's in a box or a package or a can, it is damaged.

What has Parental Omega-3 and -6?

Unrefined nuts or seeds oils or consumption of nuts and seeds. Also, grass-fed meat contains a proper ratio (from 1:1 to 2:5 to 1 is okay of Omega-6 to Omega-3 fatty acids).

What about Fish Oil?

The derivatives of fish oil do have their benefits, such as DHA and EPA, however they do not contain any Parental oils and that is the problem. For flexible arteries, we need ample amounts of Linoleic acid and some alpha linoleic acid

Fish oil does not provide much because it is extracted without the parental oils. The primary benefits to arteries are the parental oils.

Eating the whole fish is a source of parental and derivative.

What about Omega 3-6-9 supplements?

They have an improper ratio, too much Omega-3, not enough -6 and 9 isn't necessary. They all contain too much Omega-3 and not enough Omega-6. Yes we do consumed too much Omega-6 in the form of processed food, but that doesn't work. So we are are deficient in both parental Omega-6 and -3.

What about Krill Oil?

Krill Oil is much better than fish oil for many reasons along with consumption of nuts and seeds (raw-non-processed) or unrefined, non-processed oils, or grass-fed meats to acquire the important parental LA and ALA fatty acids.

Krill Oil contains astaxanthin which prevents oxidation of lipids (fatty acids), where as fish oil is extremely subject to oxidation just by keeping on the shelf. Krill Oil is transported through a more efficient mechanism than fish oil which is in triglyceride form.

Krill oil uses phospholipids to transport them directly into cell membranes.

Astaxanthin in Krill Oil has been shown to reduce 5-alpha reductase, and helps prevent some degenerative eye disorders (such as macular degeneration). Its combined effect on HDL ("Good" cholesterol), triglycerides and reduction of C-Reactive protein makes it a clear choice above fish oil. Krill oil also improves glucose parameters.

What does the research show?

It shows that we are not consuming enough Parental Essential Oils. And it shows that if we consume enough PEO's we can have more flexible arteries and increased oxygen transport.

What about hemp oil? It's not biologically compatible with humans. There is no traditional consumption of hemp oil among humans. Here is what the research shows: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18460481

"Supplementation with hempseed oil did not significantly alter the concentration of any plasma fatty acid."

What about Vegetables? Unlike herbivores, humans cannot extract PEO's from them.

What about Fruits? Humans can get some PEO's from fruit, however, it's not much and too much fruit is a problem for some people.

Is there a supplement for this that exists?

Yes, it is called Multi-EFA's.

http://www.iherb.com/Bluebonnet-Nutrition-Multi-EFA-s-90-Softgels/9610?at=0

Can you make your own?

Yes, you can purchase unrefined safflower oil, such as this one:

http://www.iherb.com/Flora-Sunflower-Oil-17-fl-oz-500-ml/3071?at=0

And mixing it with a small amount of flax oil. Keep the ratio at 2.5 to one (approximately) of LA to ALA.

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Post  scottyc33 Mon Nov 01, 2010 9:13 am

Interesting.

I guess it's a good think I take Krill Oil and eat plenty of raw seeds, nuts and grass fed meat. Smile


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Post  dannyroddy Mon Nov 01, 2010 9:26 am

CausticSymmetry wrote:Also, grass-fed meat contains a proper ratio (from 1:1 to 2:5 to 1 is okay of Omega-6 to Omega-3 fatty acids).

Grass-fed beef sounds good to me.
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Post  GreenPower Mon Nov 01, 2010 10:06 am

Are you saying mutli-EFA's are superior to krill oil? And krill oil is not enough to keep a safe ratio in our body?

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Post  CausticSymmetry Mon Nov 01, 2010 10:49 am

GreenPower - Multi EFA's is really unnecessary unless one consumes no grass-fed meat, raw nuts or seeds. Regarding Krill Oil, there's a lot of advantages to it, per above thread.

Multi EFA's would probably apply to vegans because unfortunately, the human body cannot sufficiently extract EFA's from plants. And fruit isn't an ideal source.

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Post  nidhogge Mon Nov 01, 2010 11:31 am

GreenPower--

I've looked into this information in the past, and the conclusion that I've come to is that people would be best served to consume both Krill and PEOs together for the optimum health impact. A full-spectrum assault if you will, as Krill offers benefits unique unto itself (incredible benefits for eyes for one, cardiovascular health for another) that I've not seen in research for other essential oils out there on the market.

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Post  Yanks Mon Nov 01, 2010 11:41 am

I thought I had read something a while back about flax oil having different properties than the seeds and might actually carry detriment with it. I don't remember specifics but can someone clear this up for me?

Also,

1) how do mycotoxins/oxalates factor in with the nut intake here?

2) Regarding unsaturated fats... Polyunsaturated is supposed to be bad for heart health right CS? How about Mono? And what about the Poly content in nuts and seeds as well as things avocados? Will the tendency these fats have to oxidize cause any problems?
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Post  CausticSymmetry Mon Nov 01, 2010 12:17 pm

Yanks - Flaxseed oil can be a problem when it is not handled properly, for instance, if it is placed too long on the shelf. It does contain very small quantities of some undesirable materials, but it is quite small. For this reason, personally if I consume any flax oil, it would be in small quantities in capsule form.

I'm not too wild about buying the bottle forms, because it tastes awful and there's always the worry about it going bad.

Avoid Udo's oils by the way, he's got the ratios backwards.

Some nuts are problematic and of course peanuts are really legumes (they have a well known mycotoxin).

Walnuts, pumpkin seeds, sunflower seeds in raw form all good sources of both PEO's.

Polyunsaturated fatty acids are important (they are the sources of the PEO's above), however, anyone who consumes processed food is intaking damaged (adulterated forms), which are not useful to the body at all--this is the problem.

Of course, hydrogenated oils are even worse forms of polyunsaturates, and even worse than hydrogenated or trans form is inter-esterified fats. And it is very unfortunate, that almost all manufactures of products who say they no longer have trans-fats in their product has since replaced them with inter-esterified fats.

If only they would revert back to lard and tropical oils like palm and coconut.

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Post  pancacke Mon Nov 01, 2010 10:30 pm

Multi-EFA's have a ratio of 1,3:1 omega6 to omega3
Krill oil has 15 times more omega3 than 6. Where do we get the rest of our omega6 from? Could a ratio of less than 2,5:1 be negative from a hair perspective?

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Post  MilBA Tue Nov 02, 2010 12:28 am

Aren't raw seeds and nuts loaded with lectins and phytic acid? Whats the ideal balance? Is it best just to get EFAs just from grassfed beef?

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Post  empty Tue Nov 02, 2010 2:23 am

I'd like to read more- can you point us to some of the research regarding all of this?

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Post  CausticSymmetry Tue Nov 02, 2010 5:46 am

We consume plenty of Omega-6 that is adulterated, if we eat processed food.

The ratio of Omega-6 to Omega-3 can be 1:1 to 3:1, and generally if you shoot for 2.5:1 to you've got perhaps a near ideal.

This is with respect to parental W-6 and W-3.

EPA/DHA form is another story. Unlike fish oil Krill oil is highly stable because the delicate fatty acids has astaxanthin to prevent it oxidation.

Fish oil has very short shelf life, highly subject to oxidation.

To get more "parental" oils LA and ALA would come from meat, wild, free-range and grass-fed if possible.

If meat is not a diet ideal, then there are seeds and nuts (raw, unprocessed).


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Post  CausticSymmetry Tue Nov 02, 2010 6:03 am

If one does not consume meat, then I guess the question is, what seeds and nuts are safe?

sunflower seeds are a good source for LA.

Flax is not perfect, but has plenty of ALA.

Personally, I just rely on the meat and since I minimize fried food or processed food.

Parental oils can be in short supply if processed food is eaten regularly, and this maybe a reason to increase parental oils to improve oxygen transfer.

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Post  Nocturnalhorse Wed Nov 03, 2010 8:37 am

Great!! I have plenty of grass fed beef, wild caught mackerel, sardines, raw nuts and supplement with Now Neptune Krill oil. Smile
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Post  Silverlin Wed Nov 03, 2010 10:35 am

CS - Do you know whether fermentation of nuts and seeds destroy or reduce the PEO content in them? Like milBA mentioned, not all(but a lot) of nuts and seeds aren't really safe to eat raw because of lectins, goitrogens, oligosaccharides, oxalates, phytic acid ect. Which when consuming large quantities using fermentation is the way to go IMO.
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Post  CausticSymmetry Wed Nov 03, 2010 10:55 am

Silverlin - I don't know, but I suppose when in doubt, one can always consume unrefined, sunflower oil or safflower oil combined with some flax oil.


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Post  Silverlin Wed Nov 03, 2010 11:12 am

Well I have a feeling it probably doesn't, but i consume enough raw to medium rare fish not to worry about it.
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Post  teacup Sun Nov 21, 2010 5:54 pm

What do you think about this?

Fat and Fatty Acid Intake

Although there have been no published, large, well-controlled studies that examine the effect of fat or fatty acid intake on acne risk, omega-6 fatty acids are pro-inflammatory and their pro-inflammatory mediators have been associated with acne.23 By contrast, omega-3 fatty acids have anti-inflammatory properties24 and may be associated with decreased risk of acne by decreasing IGF-1 levels and follicle inflammation. Typically, Western diets have a low ratio of omega-3 to omega-6 fatty acids, as compared with diets observed in non- industrialized nations.25

Additionally, diets high in saturated fats have been associated with increased IGF-1 levels, while diets that are low-fat and high in fiber have been linked with decreased IGF-1 levels.26

Source: Does Diet Really Affect Acne? http://www.skintherapyletter.com/2010/15.3/1.html
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Post  CausticSymmetry Mon Nov 22, 2010 6:19 pm

teacup - It's simply inaccurate. It would mean something if IGF-1 were rising while IGFBP-3 were declining but this is not the case. Also Omega-6 fatty acids are more powerful on the anti-inflammatory front than Omega-3. I realize this is probably not what is commonly expressed in most places, but it is the truth.

However, Omega-6 is harmful when it is oxidized and changed into transfats, and this is where processed food can pervert this normally good oil.

It is of course very helpful to have enough Omega-3 to balance out the AA.


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Post  Balthier Mon Nov 29, 2010 5:42 am

doesn't the grass fed beef LA and ALA get partially oxidized when cooked and won't the sunflower oil also be partially oxidized too,or is omega 6 oil more stable than omega 3 oils?

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Post  Mastery Mon Dec 27, 2010 3:19 pm


This is a very informative thread. Thank you.

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Post  empty Tue Dec 28, 2010 5:17 am

Does your information come from here?

http://www.brianpeskin.com/BP.com/publications/Dec.2010-Explore19-6.pdf

If so, he would not recommend taking Krill Oil either.

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Post  empty Tue Dec 28, 2010 5:29 am

Also, if that's the only source we have... ugh..

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Post  CausticSymmetry Tue Dec 28, 2010 5:37 am

The information comes from the heals of a study, but is Brian Peskin absolutely right? Probably not.

He cannot deny that fish oil (although not the ideal source) of DHA is very beneficial to brain function.

Take a look at this information regarding krill oil.

http://www.npicenter.com/article/Industry/ADHD-Study-with-Superba-TM-Krill-Oil-Shows-Significant-Positive-Effects.aspx?form_372.replyids=2&form_363.replyids=2&form_346.userid=215&form_346.replyids=8513

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/12/20/omega3-fat-useful-to-improve-adhd.aspx

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Post  teacup Tue Dec 28, 2010 7:04 am

CS,
What has Parental Omega-3 and -6?
Unrefined nuts or seeds oils or consumption of nuts and seeds. Also, grass-fed meat contains a proper ratio (from 1:1 to 2:5 to 1 is okay of Omega-6 to Omega-3 fatty acids).
I heard most of the seeds pass through our digestive system intact since we do not crush them by chowing enough to extract the oils.

Q1- Are seed/nut oils and butters better than raw seeds and nuts?
Q2- Which nuts would you recommend? Certainly not peanuts, how about almonds?
Q3- Should nuts be soaked to remove mycotoxins and pollutants before consuming?

What about Fish Oil?
The derivatives of fish oil do have their benefits, such as DHA and EPA, however they do not contain any Parental oils and that is the problem. For flexible arteries, we need ample amounts of Linoleic acid and some alpha linoleic acid
Fish oil does not provide much because it is extracted without the parental oils. The primary benefits to arteries are the parental oils.
Eating the whole fish is a source of parental and derivative.

Q4- Are sardines an ideal fish for this, we eat the whole fish, they are small fish = less pollutants than larger fish?
Q5- Are you going to add the Multi EFA's supplement to your IH Regimen?

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