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Post  misterE Wed Aug 04, 2010 10:00 am

CS, where's Dr. Atkins study proving heart-disease is reversible with his diet, considering you two have the same diet virtually? If it could be done, as you suggest, why hasn't it been done yet?
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Post  CausticSymmetry Wed Aug 04, 2010 10:05 am

misterE - You're clearly not reading very much of what I post--maybe hardly anything at all.

I will get to the point if not already of just ignoring these questions completely.

I do not recommend a specific diet for anyone. Using Atkins is too simplistic.

I've already posted enough studies to prove that a ketogenic diet, low carb, high fat helpful against metabolic syndrome and heart disease.


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Post  misterE Wed Aug 04, 2010 11:06 am

CausticSymmetry wrote:
I've already posted enough studies to prove that a ketogenic diet, low carb, high fat helpful against metabolic syndrome and heart disease.


It may be useful because a low-carb diet reduces the symptoms of the Metabolic Syndrome (by avoid insulin-secretion), but it has not been shown to reverse it. Period. Once again, if it has, give me the name of the doc who made it happen.
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Post  CausticSymmetry Wed Aug 04, 2010 3:20 pm

misterE - There's thousands of doctors reversing diabetes with a low carb, high fat diet. I could list a page long but my time is short. When will this argument ever end?

Wouldn't it be easier to go on another board and preach to those who are too ignorant to combat McDougallism?


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Post  misterE Wed Aug 04, 2010 3:30 pm

CausticSymmetry wrote:misterE - There's thousands of doctors reversing diabetes with a low carb, high fat diet. I could list a page long but my time is short.


Just one will do. Please post the study also... thanks.
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Post  Directo Wed Aug 04, 2010 5:57 pm

CausticSymmetry wrote:misterE - There's thousands of doctors reversing diabetes with a low carb, high fat diet. I could list a page long but my time is short. When will this argument ever end?

Wouldn't it be easier to go on another board and preach to those who are too ignorant to combat McDougallism?

I think it's useless. This guy is a joke. Just make a topic with many studies about fibers, fats etc... which contradict his theories and each time he comes back with his well-prepared text followed by studies, just put the link to the topic.
He said he would only respond to message followed by link to studies, but you (this time), you didn't and he answered. Me, I did, and: "gone with the wind". No answer, nothing. He just ignored them and went another topic posting his favourite blablabla.
It's not the first time he does this. Each time, he is in trouble or he finds some study contradicting him, he goes away or ignore the message. Too easy.
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Post  CausticSymmetry Wed Aug 04, 2010 6:01 pm

Directo - When I first saw that the other night, I laughed out loud--totally hilarious and true.

I like your idea.


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Post  zanza Wed Aug 04, 2010 9:32 pm

http://diabetes.about.com/od/nutrition/qt/locarbdiabetes.htm

3. Research conducted at Duke University in 2003 found that patients that adhered to a low carb diet were much more likely to reverse diabetes, maybe even curing it altogether. Over the course of the 16-week study, 17 of 21 patients were able to significantly reduce their insulin doses by eating foods that were low in carbohydrates. Some were even able to completely stop the treatments. Also, a regular exercise routine was helpful in these cases.


Does a low-carb diet really help control or even reverse type 2 diabetes? According to a study from Duke University, a very low-carb diet (20 grams or less a day) gave participants better blood sugar control and more effective weight loss than participants who followed a low-glycemic reduced calorie diet.

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Post  misterE Thu Aug 05, 2010 3:37 am

CausticSymmetry wrote:
I like your idea.


I take it you won't be giving me a name list of doctors who reversed diabetes with a low-carb diet?
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Post  mickey Thu Aug 05, 2010 3:43 am

Can you respond to Directo's links first, please? thx

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Post  zanza Thu Aug 05, 2010 8:58 am

well, considering I don't think any group has really had any amazing results with hair loss reversal, I am not ruling out MisterE's or any theories now as possibilities.

But the link i posted above does show how low carb may be able to treat and reverse diabetes.

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Post  misterE Thu Aug 05, 2010 9:26 am

zanza wrote:

But the link i posted above does show how low carb may be able to treat and reverse diabetes.

Zanza, to my knowledge, there hasn't been one single doctor who has reversed diabetes with a low-carb diet, I cannot find one myself, and I have many people here, including CS, and no one has given me the name of the doctor and the study showing diabetes is reversible with a low-carb diet.

Conversely Dr. Neal Barnard has successfully reversed it. He wrote a book on how to reverse it which you can read a lot of it here, but of course it was not headline news.
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Post  zanza Thu Aug 05, 2010 10:06 am

Mercola does

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2006/07/22/type-2-diabetes-erases-15-years-from-your-life.aspx

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Post  zanza Thu Aug 05, 2010 10:10 am

cant seem to figure out how to edit. has anyone seen this ?

http://spirithappy.wordpress.com/new-type-2-diabetes-diet-cure/

this guy claims to reverse diabetes in a popular film he has made

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Post  misterE Thu Aug 05, 2010 10:34 am

Does this doctor have a name and a study to back it up?
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Post  zanza Thu Aug 05, 2010 10:36 am

misterE wrote:Does this doctor have a name and a study to back it up?

if you mean the filmmaker's movie, no I haven't watched it yet. His name is Collin Camino. He claims to have good results in Europe curing or reversing diabetes, but I wasn't able to find out about the information, it costs $17 to see.

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