theanine testimonial

for anyone with anxiety, depression, adhd.....

I just started using jarrows theanine 100 and i am very impressed. It seems to be helping with anxiety, depression and adhd.

and for another thought, I believe that premature ejaculation comes from anxiety. I was able to last way longer in bed with my gf last night.

I second that experience. Lately, I have been trying some of these anti-anxiety protocols for getting better sleeps and extended ejaculation was one side effect I experienced as well.

Great to here 1... I know theanine helps me when taken proactively. I notice if I don't take it for a couple days. Eventually I would like to get to a point when I don't have to rely on anything to feel normal. Hopefully eventually my progress with thyroid and adrenals will get me to that point.

interestingly - adrenals and CFS can cause anxiety, so you may want to look into the core of the issue. If so, there willbe other items to consider if indeed the adrenals are the cause of your anxiety.

happyman - that's the path I have concluded on as well. I have pretty much dropped every other idea in the interest of fixing my thyroid / adrenals. My entire focus has shifted to fixing these 2 items first.

reducing stress, increasing quality and length of sleep, taking supps to support adrenals -

what specifically are you doing for healing the adrenals?

Here you go lund,

from:http://www.project-aware.org/Resource/articlearchives/adrenalfatigue.shtml
* Vitamin C 2,000-4,000 mg/day Sustained Release
* Vitamin E w/mixed tocopherols 800 IU/day
* Vitamin B complex
* Niacin (125-150 mg/day) – as inositol hexaniacinate
* B-6 (150 mg/day)
* Pantothenic acid (1200-1500 mg/day)
* Magnesium citrate (400-1200 mg)
* Liquid trace minerals (zinc, manganese, selenium, chromium, molybdenum, copper, iodine)– calming effect
* If depression is present – Add SAM.e 200 mg bid; DL-Phenylalanine (DLPA) 500 mg bid

Some herbal remedies that have been noted as possible therapies include Licorice, Ashwagandha, Maca, Siberian Ginseng, Korean Ginseng. Note: Licorice can and, if taken over time, does have a propensity to elevate blood pressure. It should not be used in persons with a history of hypertension, renal failure, or who currently use digitalis preparations such as digoxin.

Here you go lund,

from:http://www.project-aware.org/Resource/articlearchives/adrenalfatigue.shtml
* Vitamin C 2,000-4,000 mg/day Sustained Release
* Vitamin E w/mixed tocopherols 800 IU/day
* Vitamin B complex
* Niacin (125-150 mg/day) – as inositol hexaniacinate
* B-6 (150 mg/day)
* Pantothenic acid (1200-1500 mg/day)
* Magnesium citrate (400-1200 mg)
* Liquid trace minerals (zinc, manganese, selenium, chromium, molybdenum, copper, iodine)– calming effect
* If depression is present – Add SAM.e 200 mg bid; DL-Phenylalanine (DLPA) 500 mg bid

Some herbal remedies that have been noted as possible therapies include Licorice, Ashwagandha, Maca, Siberian Ginseng, Korean Ginseng. Note: Licorice can and, if taken over time, does have a propensity to elevate blood pressure. It should not be used in persons with a history of hypertension, renal failure, or who currently use digitalis preparations such as digoxin.

thanks - JHC, that's a laundry list of items. What seems to be helping you individually ? (if anything)?

I think niacinamide is great, as well ashwagandha, magnesium, vit-c, zinc, and b6 are probably the top ones for me. I also take theanine inconsistantly with uncertain results. I like the lewis labs brewers yeast that's gluten free- actually a nutritional yeast from beats. I have been eating buckwheat every morning which helps to keep blood sugar level. I would say that my top 4 would be ashwagandha, magnesium, vit-c, and zinc.

Actually I can't leave niacinamide out so I guess it should be top 5. I don't know how much niacinamide does for the adrenals but it is amazing for anxiety.

Funny that my regiment for adrenals almost mirrors that and I wasn't even trying.

Brewer's Yeast (B vitamins)
Niacinamide
Magnesium
Vitamin C - 2-6 grams/day.
MACA
Suntheanine (L-Theanine) instead of SAM-E, although I would love to give SAM-E a trial run someday.

The only thing I don't have a good source of yet is Vitamin E.

Also I know you are against it Lund but recently I added a raw adrenal supplement to jump start the healing process. I only take one per day and will eventually slowly ween myself off of them. I usually try to take it right after lunch as that is when I feel the most lethargic, even when eating very healthy. Seem to have much more energy, less stress around this time now.

Happy,

how's that working for you? i had to drop real brewers yeast because it has gluten. I bought the Lewis (or is it Carlson?) Labs brewers yeast which is actually from beets. I wasn't aware that beets were high in glutamate so I now have a whole can of that that I can't use anymore. I would suggest staying away from glutamate. i used to take huge amounts of glutamine everyday. I had to stop that.

There is a great alternative to taking Sam-e. It is TMG. I forgot to mention that I take TMG as well because it is hard to keep track of everything sometimes and I added it just a couple weeks ago. TMG recycles sam-e, and lowers homocysteine. It is used in combo with sam-e because sam-e raises homocysteine levels (really bad!), but also works great on its own, and it is really cost effective. Check out the reviews for the Jarrow TMG on iherb. They are all really good, and i remember one of them saying that they were taking sam-e and TMG, but dropped the Sam-e because the TMG alone worked better for them.

I just realized that i forgot to include Maca in my list as well! lol- looks like we are taking the exact same things. I have recently started taking large amounts of myo-inositol for it's mood and anxiety lifting properties. It has been shown to be effective for depression/anxiety, and anxiety disorders like OCD.

Seems to be going well. Still have low periods but they are usually the worst when my diet suffers and I don't keep up on the supplements if I am out of town or something. I have a Lewis Lab's "gluten free" version of brewer's yeast but haven't really been using it since I got a bunch of Brewer's Yeast tabs from Swanson's. The label for the swanson's brewer's yeast is really crappy so I have no idea the source or everything that is in it. However, I do feel more energetic after taking them. If we can't take brewer's yeast how the heck are we supposed to get all these rare B vitamins? Seems like a lot of contradicting information.

I've heard of TMG and it sounds great. Not surprisingly it is in Swanson's Adrenal Essentials supplement that I want to pick up and try out. Definitely the cheaper route and probably safer than SAM-E then (because of homocysteine).

Is glutamine really as bad as glutamate or glutamic acid? I've read great things about glutamine for gut health and immunity. I usually take a large scoop for my after workout shakes.

here's two threads

http://www.msgmyth.com/discus/messages/10/928.html?1205432805

http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1245754

I have a little more info somewhere but this is the jist of it.

Also, most importantly, IME, 6 grams of glutamine does gives me symptoms identical to glutamate/glutamic acid/MSG.

BTW, becareful with whey protein shakes ... glutamate.

Thanks I'll check it out. I use rice protein and raw eggs as my main source. But I also add Spirulina and Chlorella.

here's a quote

"Protein powders contain glutamic acid (processed free glutamic acid--MSG). Glutamic acid is not always named on labels of protein powders. "

http://www.truthinlabeling.com/Jack_hiddensources.htm

Happy, I know it is contradicting sometimes. For instance di-chiro-inositol I thought was good for hair, as it is in buckwheat, and helps treat PCOS which I read someone say was similar to AGA in men. I just read though that it decreased total and free testosterone in women, so that will be a new thread when I get to it.

An alternative my Dr. recommends to glutamine is N-A-G. http://www.iherb.com/Jarrow-Formulas-N-A-G-750-750-mg-120-Capsules/131?at=0 This is my second day on it today for digestive health while avoiding glutamate/glutamine. Glutamine can convert to glutamate.

In the future I will probably use the lewis labs beet yeast, but not now while I am coming off this wretched benzodiazepine. Is it even detrimental to hair? I'm avoiding it because it interferes with gaba.

So they are saying all fermented foods are bad? And anything containing enzymes is bad? I don't know if I buy it.

hapyman,

It's not that enzymes are bad but manufacterers keep changing the names for MSG in your foods to hide what's in it ... that's all.

Just as they changed baby food from MSG decades ago, it now goes by other names.

Back on enzymes bromelain, serrapeptase, nattokinase, lumbrokinase, etc. are good but if you're buying a canned soup at a store and you read the ingredients and it says "protease enzymes" in the list of ingredients, that mostly likely contains MSG in it. My favorite name to hide free glutamic acid is "citric acid." That names makes it sound as if it came from a lemon or something to add flavor ... it's free glutamic acid. Citric acid was an ingredient in my bottle of garlic.

Anyway, enzymes and bacteria can be used to manufacture free glutamic acid. Fermenting protein can create free glutamic acid. Fermenting is how it's made. It doesn't mean that all fermented food is bad but that it can give you a reaction depending on how it's made, how much free glutamic acid you've consumed for the day, how sensitive you are, if it contains protein, etc.. You'll never be able to stop eating glutamic acid. It's impossible as it's in everything such as fruits and vegetables. Just look at the sticky substance on tomatoes, etc.. It's just as how some people get a reaction from one batch of vinegar while another batch from the same company doesn't give a sensitive person a reaction.

If I remember correctly whole milk is generally safe but 1%/2% milk contains free glutamic acid due to the processing.

Here's a quote

"MANUFACTURED FREE GLUTAMIC ACID (MSG) is glutamic acid that has been freed from protein through a manufacturing process prior to ingestion, or glutamic acid that has been grown from selected bacteria that secrete glutamic acid through their cell walls."

http://www.vegsource.com/talk/milk/messages/8946.html

In short, 95% of all processed foods contain free glutamic acid. It's used on purpose to improve it's taste and make you addicted to the food. Notice how you'll be hungry shortly after eating processed food? Anyway, Gluten, Casein, Corn, Soy are also commonly used to create the free glutamic acid. Roughly 70% of what most people consume for calories is gluten/casein based and only increases each year.

Here's a better link on how free glutamic acid is created from enzymes, bacteria etc.

http://www.truthinlabeling.com/HowIsItManufactured.html

A quote

" produced through bacterial fermentation, the glutamic acid ... is made through use of chemicals (hydrolysis or autolysis), enzymes (enzymolysis), fermentation, or a complex cooking process wherein reaction flavors are produced from a combination of specific amino acids, reducing sugars, animal or vegetable fats or oils, and optional ingredients including hydrolyzed vegetable protein"

Sorry to high jack the thread. I'll stop.

Thanks for clarifying. I do agree how awful MSG is. I sometimes have to eat at work and the food they serve there is horrible. I have horrible cravings before and after eating there. It's exactly like the one hour after you are still hungry thing. So strange to experience and actually know why and how it is happening. I got to start bringing in my own food everyday again.

Take care. Again thanks for all the info. That MSG thread was quite a thread and made things a lot more clear. It's kind of disheartening to realize it is in sooooo many things. And here I thought my organic potato chips didn't have any MSG in it Damn!

Yeah, the stuff is in everything ... even shampoo, soap, etc but it's only when we start accumulating high doses or our antioxidant reserves are low is when it's most problematic.

BTW, if you take a dozen empty gelatin capsules I get an itchy scalp. Gelatin has a lot of free glutamic acid.

Hmmm ... there are glutamate receptors in keratinocytes. I don't have a medical background but that doesn't sound good for us MPB sufferers as free glutamic acid burns out the receptors similiar to our brain from my understanding.

Hapyman,you take raw eggs in your post work-out shake right? Aren't you afraid of samonella? Even if the eggs are of organic origin...

jdp710 wrote:
BTW, if you take a dozen empty gelatin capsules I get an itchy scalp. Gelatin has a lot of free glutamic acid.

So are you not taking supplements anymore? I think I saw that you mentioned you didn't but wasn't sure. Guess looking for powders is the way to go. I think I might try dumping my ZMA and humifulvate caps at bedtime and see what happens. They aren't enteric coated or anything so it shouldn't matter. Would hate to have all that free MSG right before bed.

edony wrote:Hapyman,you take raw eggs in your post work-out shake right? Aren't you afraid of samonella? Even if the eggs are of organic origin...

Not in the least. The samonella is usually on the outer portion of the shell if it is there. You can be extra safe by scrubbing the outside of the egg with warm water before breaking. Or just use some natural antimicrobial to soak them. Probably something like Tea Tree Oil, or Grapefruit Seed Extract would do just fine.

Anyway I have been doing it for awhile and I have never gotten food poisoning from it using organic free range chicken eggs. Cooked eggs just aren't as healthy. Although they are much more delicious