Removing Calcification from the Scalp?

helpmyhair1 Sun Nov 25, 2018 2:58 pm

I have reason to believe I have a calcified scalp. Whenever I do scalp massage, I can hear lots of crunching going on, especially when i massage below the palms of my hands. Also my scalp is hard at the beginning of the massage, but loosens up by the end. By nighttime, my scalp is hardened again and I have to "crunch" it again with massage to loosen it up.

What can we do to get rid of calcification in the scalp to provide an optimal environment that isn't tight for hair to grow?

I am already taking vitamin k2, but with no luck. Anyone try vinegar on the scalp with success?

Cruied7 Wed Nov 28, 2018 3:42 am

I have the same problem when I start a deep tissue massage on my scalp.

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CausticSymmetry Wed Nov 28, 2018 5:41 am

helpmyhair1 wrote:I have reason to believe I have a calcified scalp. Whenever I do scalp massage, I can hear lots of crunching going on, especially when i massage below the palms of my hands. Also my scalp is hard at the beginning of the massage, but loosens up by the end. By nighttime, my scalp is hardened again and I have to "crunch" it again with massage to loosen it up.

What can we do to get rid of calcification in the scalp to provide an optimal environment that isn't tight for hair to grow?

I am already taking vitamin k2, but with no luck. Anyone try vinegar on the scalp with success?

Very popular topic it seems. And it is very relevant it seems, particularly in advanced hair loss.

Vitamin K2 is just one of many potential interventions.

Magnesium converts calcium into solution, but there is more. Restricting dietary magnesium accelerates ectopic connective tissue mineralization in a mouse model of pseudoxanthoma elasticum (Abcc6–/–).

In somewhat rare cases, Pseudoxanthoma elasticum-like papillary dermal elastolysis in frontal fibrosing alopecia. Imagine ectopic calcification, that could cause rather severe calcification. And there is a relatively simple fix (at least in mice).

Of interested is this paper:

https://www.jidonline.org/article/S0022-202X(17)31665-2/fulltext

And on a different set of circumstances if the parathyroid gland (if abnormal can cause hypercalcification), but then on the other hand, in normal parathyroid conditions, a deficiency of vitamin D can cause a subclinical level of pyrophosphate, which would lead to calcification.

Either way, taking vitamin D (with a normal parathyroid gland) should always consider magnesium and other co-factors, such as K2.

helpmyhair1 Sat Dec 01, 2018 7:53 pm

CausticSymmetry wrote:
helpmyhair1 wrote:I have reason to believe I have a calcified scalp. Whenever I do scalp massage, I can hear lots of crunching going on, especially when i massage below the palms of my hands. Also my scalp is hard at the beginning of the massage, but loosens up by the end. By nighttime, my scalp is hardened again and I have to "crunch" it again with massage to loosen it up.

What can we do to get rid of calcification in the scalp to provide an optimal environment that isn't tight for hair to grow?

I am already taking vitamin k2, but with no luck. Anyone try vinegar on the scalp with success?

Very popular topic it seems. And it is very relevant it seems, particularly in advanced hair loss.

Vitamin K2 is just one of many potential interventions.

Magnesium converts calcium into solution, but there is more. Restricting dietary magnesium accelerates ectopic connective tissue mineralization in a mouse model of pseudoxanthoma elasticum (Abcc6–/–).

In somewhat rare cases, Pseudoxanthoma elasticum-like papillary dermal elastolysis in frontal fibrosing alopecia. Imagine ectopic calcification, that could cause rather severe calcification. And there is a relatively simple fix (at least in mice).

Of interested is this paper:

https://www.jidonline.org/article/S0022-202X(17)31665-2/fulltext

And on a different set of circumstances if the parathyroid gland (if abnormal can cause hypercalcification), but then on the other hand, in normal parathyroid conditions, a deficiency of vitamin D can cause a subclinical level of pyrophosphate, which would lead to calcification.

Either way, taking vitamin D (with a normal parathyroid gland) should always consider magnesium and other co-factors, such as K2.

I’m already taking 200 - 400 mg of Magnesium Glycinate per day. What type of magnesium do you recommend and at what dosage for this purpose?

I also take vitamin D. So with k2, magnesium, and vitamin D, im still getting the calcification. What else can I do?

CausticSymmetry Mon Dec 17, 2018 1:32 pm

Might need more magnesium depending on how many carbohydrates in the diet.

Anyway, so what else can be done?

Assuming the problem really is calcification.

There are two that I can think of that are known to remove calcium.

(1) https://www.bestvite.com/r/UDFvhIkS/ from this site search for EDTA

Or for a more radical approach

(2) a 10% solution of sodium thiosulfate (STS) topically.

helpmyhair1 Tue Dec 25, 2018 8:09 pm

CausticSymmetry wrote:Might need more magnesium depending on how many carbohydrates in the diet.

Anyway, so what else can be done?

Assuming the problem really is calcification.

There are two that I can think of that are known to remove calcium.

(1) https://www.bestvite.com/r/UDFvhIkS/ from this site search for EDTA

Or for a more radical approach

(2) a 10% solution of sodium thiosulfate (STS) topically.

Is EDTA safe to take? Why aren't we all taking it as I'm sure many here agree with the calcification theory of hairloss

CausticSymmetry Wed Dec 26, 2018 3:20 pm

EDTA will strip minerals from the body, so it's not a first line of defense. Minerals have to be re-added.

Plus there are detoxification side-effects.

Jdp710 Wed Dec 26, 2018 6:18 pm

Been experimenting with reducing calcification scores for many years.

I personally have someone using frequencies, nattokinase, and $30 lllt watch on ebay. They started with extreme high score and now their scores are a fraction of mine and I’m half the age. They are doin* a few other things but I attribute reduction in scores to thise 3.

Nattokinase info = https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2018/02/12/nattokinase.aspx

I originally told them about nanobac with frequencies but nanobac is too expensive which is ideal method.

Nanobac experience with frequ3ncies info = https://www.frequencyfoundation.com/2018/05/27/live-longer-reduction-of-calcification-in-the-arteries-with-frequencies/

Should mention dr sutherland has gotten even better scores since this.

Even without frequencies someone reviewing nanobac iby itself n amazon under book calcium bomb mentioned something like 40% reduction if my memory is right by just using nanobac alone.

There are other methods and I’ve tried many. Can do a search on this site for edta for additional info. But for me personally, this is more wha5 experience has helped me with.

Please note reduction is calcification being used for health purposes and not for regrowing hair.

Zaphod Thu Dec 27, 2018 8:03 am

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Microb Pathog. 2018 Oct 21;126:6-13. doi: 10.1016/j.micpath.2018.10.026. [Epub ahead of print]
Selenium nanoparticle as a bright promising anti-nanobacterial agent.
Sardarabadi H1, Mashreghi M2, Jamialahmadi K3, Matin MM4, Darroudi M5.
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The use of nanotechnology for nanobacteria (or calcifying nanoparticles) treatment is a new creative approach. Use of selenium nanoparticles (SeNPs) as anti-nanobacterial agents might be considered as a bright promising approach due to their critical role in the inhibition of crystal growth and aggregation of calcium oxalate. Hence, in this study, we investigated the probable outcome of SeNPs inhibitory effects on growth of nanobacteria. Fragments of thirty urinary tract stones were chemically analyzed by X-ray diffraction (XRD) and urinary stones Kits for calcifying nanoparticles presence. Then powder of stone fragments were resuspended in Dulbecco's modified Eagle's medium (DMEM), sterilized by filtration and cultured in presence of 1, 5, 30, 60, and 90 μmol/L SeNPs concentrations. Besides, calcifying nanoparticles growth in the culture without SeNPs was measured spectrophotometrically. Also, scanning electron microscopy (SEM) and transmission electron microscopy (TEM) analyses were used, where calcifying nanoparticles formation occurred. Results showed that in the culture without SeNPs, the positive calcifying nanoparticles detection was 60% while after adding SeNPs at 90 μmol/L, not any calcifying nanoparticles were observed. Further confirmation came out when Energy-dispersive X-ray (EDX) analysis showed calcium and phosphate peaks in the culture medium without any SeNPs while in the culture containing 90 μm/L SeNPs a decrease in calcium and other minerals was obvious. Therefore, SeNPs clearly restricted the growth of nanobacteria due to their inhibitory effects on calcium oxalate deposition.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/30355523

Long term usage of ACV, i think it has also a value in tackling this problem.

I agree with jdp this is a health hazard, rather than just hairloss hazard.
Harm can be seen in Parkinson's, heart disease, brain fog, infacts and or course fast ageing...

https://www.cam.ac.uk/research/news/calcium-may-play-a-role-in-the-development-of-parkinsons-disease

CausticSymmetry Thu Dec 27, 2018 12:40 pm

Beebrox wrote:
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Send to
Microb Pathog. 2018 Oct 21;126:6-13. doi: 10.1016/j.micpath.2018.10.026. [Epub ahead of print]
Selenium nanoparticle as a bright promising anti-nanobacterial agent.
Sardarabadi H1, Mashreghi M2, Jamialahmadi K3, Matin MM4, Darroudi M5.
Author information
Abstract

The use of nanotechnology for nanobacteria (or calcifying nanoparticles) treatment is a new creative approach. Use of selenium nanoparticles (SeNPs) as anti-nanobacterial agents might be considered as a bright promising approach due to their critical role in the inhibition of crystal growth and aggregation of calcium oxalate. Hence, in this study, we investigated the probable outcome of SeNPs inhibitory effects on growth of nanobacteria. Fragments of thirty urinary tract stones were chemically analyzed by X-ray diffraction (XRD) and urinary stones Kits for calcifying nanoparticles presence. Then powder of stone fragments were resuspended in Dulbecco's modified Eagle's medium (DMEM), sterilized by filtration and cultured in presence of 1, 5, 30, 60, and 90 μmol/L SeNPs concentrations. Besides, calcifying nanoparticles growth in the culture without SeNPs was measured spectrophotometrically. Also, scanning electron microscopy (SEM) and transmission electron microscopy (TEM) analyses were used, where calcifying nanoparticles formation occurred. Results showed that in the culture without SeNPs, the positive calcifying nanoparticles detection was 60% while after adding SeNPs at 90 μmol/L, not any calcifying nanoparticles were observed. Further confirmation came out when Energy-dispersive X-ray (EDX) analysis showed calcium and phosphate peaks in the culture medium without any SeNPs while in the culture containing 90 μm/L SeNPs a decrease in calcium and other minerals was obvious. Therefore, SeNPs clearly restricted the growth of nanobacteria due to their inhibitory effects on calcium oxalate deposition.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/30355523

Long term usage of ACV, i think it has also a value in tackling this problem.

I agree with jdp this is a health hazard, rather than just hairloss hazard.
Harm can be seen in Parkinson's, heart disease, brain fog, infacts and or course fast ageing...

https://www.cam.ac.uk/research/news/calcium-may-play-a-role-in-the-development-of-parkinsons-disease

Interesting post.

I'll add on a very controversial theory, yet one that to me makes sense on paper.

Generally speaking calcification is caused by inflammation.

In the case of Parkinson's disease, one of the most interesting theories is that it is due to parasites consuming the substantia nigra, which is a basal ganglia structure located in the midbrain that produces dopamine. Parasites leave behind a calcium shell. To me this is not surprising because of two different, yet related facts. 1) Smoking (which contains anti-parasitic substances) combined with coffee consumption decreases Parkinson's risk by 76% and 2) Highly effective treatments for child "Parkinson's" (autism) involves a very intense anti-parasitic and anti-larva/egg protocol.

Jdp710 Fri Dec 28, 2018 6:04 am

Fwiw, 16 hz will help reduce calcification in brain and elsewhere.

Regarding Parkinsons 5000 hz very promising. MS even more so. Parkinsons has iron issue in basal ganglia. 5000 hz works on blood issues, including hemochromatosis in which too much iron stored in body and which good percent with parkinsons do well with removing iron via plebotomy.

High dose iodine also works here, and which I personally also did very well on but 5000 hz or plebotomy is easier to live with.

Those with iron issues very important to avoid emf exposure or many will get very ill... including those who have had hemorrhagic stroke.

10,000 hz very well for inflammation which prolonged inflammation can cause calcification issue as cs mentioned. Not to mention dna damage and thus possibly many cancers. 10,000 hz can be used for long periods of time eithout problem.

93120 hz works on most pathogens if used long enough... including cancers. So in theory that should help with if there is parasite issue in basal ganglia causing parkinsons. However believe mycoplasma ferments (a biowarfare agent) may be larger culprit and which I personally test very high for.

Young onset also connected by failure of phase II detox pathway.

Pesticide exposure causing dna damage also may be connection and interestingly I was possibly exposed to very high levels first few years of my life.

interestingly on my expensive biofeedback devices shows extreme problem in one chromosome moderate problem in another and extreme dna damage when looking deeper. Oddly didn’t give details other than metastatic tumor so diagnosis can’t be trusted.

Biofeedback device = https://www.frequencyfoundation.com/2017/07/23/frequency-research-foundation-uses-the-leading-human-scanning-technology/

With time I think the above is very good with stopping progression but dna repair may be even greater. Ormus is said to work with dna repair. I have large quantity of meow kettles to create ormus in my drinking water and there is a benefit.

Sorry for length. Would post more findings but don’t want to make this too long. Just wanted to post some latest findings.

Anyway, again regarding calcification can read more about 16 hz isreali device to deal with calcification=

http://israel21c.org/health/israeli-device-harnesses-electromagnetic-healing-power/

…can treat acute and chronic health conditions including heart disease, migraines, joint pain, gastrointestinal problems and muscle pain…

Two clinical trials are now underway in an Israeli hospital. One is an experiment to see if the device is effective against chronic musculoskeletal pain. The other involves patients who suffer from chest pain as a result of too little oxygen reaching the heart through blocked blood vessels.

We know from our research in cell cultures, animals and human volunteers that a 16Hz frequency opens potassium ion channels of cell membranes. Opening these channels reduces the influx of calcium ions, which reduces the need for oxygen – and that is very important for patients with cardiac disease,” says Scheinowitz, an associate professor of physiology in the biomedical engineering program at Tel Aviv University. “Reducing calcium also causes the smooth muscle layer of blood vessels to relax so more blood is being pumped to the heart.”

Hope for ADHD?

Scheinowitz is also overseeing research on how MDwave could benefit children with attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD).

“We don’t know the mechanism, but we do know that reducing calcium in the brain may positively affect the neurotransmitters associated with attention deficits,” he says. “We’re now in the process of getting approval in Israel to test this hypothesis on children who are not being treated by Ritalin.”

The proposed six-week trial would involve placing MDwave under the child’s head for 20 minutes while he sleeps, and evaluating differences in behavior afterward.

helpmyhair1 Fri Dec 28, 2018 8:07 am

Do these frequency units actually work for treating MPB/Hairloss? If so, are there any cost-effective solutions out there?

CausticSymmetry Fri Dec 28, 2018 9:11 am

Hi Jdp710 - Great info, very useful.

I'll add on a potentially very relevant thing that both relates to Parkinson's and calcification.

To make a long explanation short, high-dose B1 (thiamine) has had promising results in a human trial last year in Italy for Parkinson's (closer to two years at this writing). Using a form of Allithiamine, which is a lipid disulfide form, naturally found in garlic bulbs is much more efficacious than standard water soluble vitamin B1. Also, a similar form known as Sulbutiamine.

https://amzn.to/2BJIjO2

Cutting to the chase here is that sufficient stores of thiamine are necessary to impede calcium build-up in the cell. Thiamine is involved in energy production, ATP via the pentose phosphate pathway.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3085841/

Jdp710 Sat Dec 29, 2018 5:55 am

Thanks CS. I ordered some.

Quote from this study. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4828997/

thiamine-dependent processes are impaired in the cerebral tissues of patients with several neurodegenerative diseases and the activity reduction of the thiamine-dependent enzymes can be readily linked to the symptomatology and the pathology of the disorders. Most neurodegenerative diseases share then similarities and could be responsive to high doses of thiamine

Jdp710 Sat Dec 29, 2018 6:25 am

Helpmyhair1,

Yes, they work for hair loss, my experience. No I don’t recommend for just about everybody. Too complicated for most people to do. Others have bought emf devices on this forum and don’t think they reported as good as success as I have. One person mentioned it was just too much to do.

While this quote below from richard loyd is regarding cancer, can get a basic understanding as something similar is for hair loss. At one time I wrote a detailed article regarding hair loss. It went through something like a checklist of 15 possibilities to try. If one thing doesn’t work, then go to the next until you find one of or the main cause. In short, don’t think anybody bothered as was too long and complicated. Other reason is most people want to regrow hair and nothing works regrowibg hair that’s been gone longer than a couple years, IMO.

Genetic Factor*: If a woman becomes infected with syphilis, her immune
system makes antibodies to try to fight off the disease. If she has
children after that point, they will also make antibodies to syphilis, a
disease that they do not have. And her daughters will in turn pass this
tendency to make the antibodies to their children. This continues
generation after generation. Carcinoma, sarcoma and leukemia are genetic
factor precursor cancers. You cannot get these cancers without genetic
factor. The source of the problem can be many generations in the past.

*Mold toxins* cause the CAV and other scores to go up.

*Chemical and especially medication toxins* raise the levels of CAV and
the other cancer pathogens.

*Radiation stress* raises the levels of CAV and the others. Even a set
of dental X-rays will increase CAV and the rest.

*Bacterial infections* such as staph and Strep pneumoniae can raise CAV
and the others.

*Geopathic stress* can be a factor.

*Electro-smog* can be a factor.

*Emotions* such as fear or bitterness from emotional trauma can be factors.

But regarding frequency research there are astonishing things possible.
I just dont recommend this research for anyone but the smartest and most independent researchers. Not to mention for hair loss there are much easier methods to use with just as good of results nowadays.

shukov Sat Dec 29, 2018 9:37 pm

Jdp710 wrote:Helpmyhair1,
Other reason is most people want to regrow hair and nothing works regrowing hair that’s been gone longer than a couple years, IMO.

That's depressing but can't entirely disagree based on what I've seen over the years. Most "success stories" seem to involve small areas of vellus or miniaturised (weak terminal) hairs popping up and this certainly isn't unheard of. But cases of this regrowth actually progressing to full density are still rare. HL puzzle remains unsolved.

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