Re: Masturbation.

sky-walker Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:21 pm

From my own experience , my hair feel better after 3 days ... until 7,8 days abstaining. After that , i guess there is a big pick on testosterone level and i have a HUGE shedding with greasy skin and scalp after 7,8 days .
Our body is make like that, we must ejaculate at least 1 per week.

Hoppipolla Wed Mar 24, 2010 11:06 pm

Yeah, that makes a good amount of sense sky-walker Smile

Once or twice a week seems the right balance, thanks for the warning too - I don't want a shed!! lol

NoGravity Thu Mar 25, 2010 1:09 am

tooyoung wrote:NoGravity -

I also experience lower back pain a lot, let me know if yours goes from abstaining and I'll tell you if mine does. How do you sleep? I sleep "freefalling". Out on my front with my chest on my pillows, so my backs bent and I often wondered if that was causing the pain, weird way to sleep but I can't sleep any other way.

tooyoung

i sleep in all positions, back, sides, stomach. i realise though that placing a pillow under your knees while sleeping does alleviate the pain abit. but that dull ache every morning kills. honestly, i do not know whether its due to over masturbation or weak core muscle. i did had a fall few years ago but i can feel its more of a muscle then spinal or bone problem. yea i will update if on any progress.

NoGravity Thu Mar 25, 2010 1:11 am

for info there was a period i abstained for six months due to some emotional stuff. but i did not see any reduced shedding. ok well it may be due to the additional stress during that period, but ya, no difference.

Hoppipolla Thu Mar 25, 2010 5:15 am

Warren wrote:I believe in the masturbation theory too. Although I have no scientific proof.

Masturbation is something that is VERY COMMON and thus could explain why so many men are losing their hair. Especially in this day and age where this is so much easily accessible porn on the Internet. I was speaking with my hair dresser who has been cutting hair since the 80's. He said nowadays he gets tons of young men complaining about hair loss whereas that never used to happen as much before.

I think I might try what Glacier said and try abstinence for a month or more. I don't ever get any sort of pain in my scalp, but I do feel remorseful and tired after each time.

I found this a really interesting post when I first read it and it kinda stuck in my head.

I mean, I was also thinking that if not for more regular masturbation (I mean yeah you're right, before the internet and readily available porn, unless you were having sex VERY regularly (and even then it's more likely to be short bursts, during a relationship or whatever) you just wouldn't ejaculate as often, to put it simply, as far as I can tell) I was also wondering what ELSE has changed?

Tap water?
Diet?
More alcohol? (maaayyyybe)
Chemicals in products? Anything new recently or since the 80s?
Stress?

That's all I can think of. I still think the net and masturbation sounds like the most likely culprit, but I think it would be wise to have a look at these too. Was SLS in shampoos in the 80s? I take it it probably was...

Hoppipolla Thu Mar 25, 2010 5:36 am

and fillings! How long have they had mercury in them? Maybe I should make a separate thread about all this junk lol

Ah yes, 1800's, fair do's xD

Hoppipolla Thu Mar 25, 2010 8:58 am

Sorry something ELSE! hehe, sorry this stuff is interesting to me coz.. yeah I'm one of those guilty ones who did it too often lol xD

What can I say, I'm a dude! hehe

But yeah I really am suspecting this, what do you guys think of this (from a different forum but I just copied and pasted)

Tantric Life wrote:There is something to what he is saying, although avoiding sexual thoughts or a 'boner' is not the answer, it's about preserving your vital fluids, most of your testosterone is stored in your semen, when you frequently ejaculate you lose your testosterone, and your body is forced to leverage the little bit it has left.. creating DHT to do the job of normal Testosterone ..

Snippet from source

"HAIR LOSS, Testosterone, DHT, Tantra & Nettles

Scientifically we have discovered that male pattern baldness is caused by DHT – DHT stands for Di-Hydro-Testosterone –

Most of a Mans Testosterone is stored in his seminal fluid, his vital fluid – when you ejaculate; you’ve just LITERALLY given away almost all of your testosterone.

Now testosterone is used in almost every body function for a man – and when you’re low, your body still needs it! So what does it do? IT SPIKES IT WITH HYDROGEN! Yes that’s why its called “di-hydro-testosterone” because now the Testosterone molecule has 2 hydrogen atoms instead of one.

What this does is it gets a lot of extra mileage out of that tiny bit of testosterone you have left – its like converting coke into crack, you’re going to get a lot more crack after conversion – and a lot more crackheads!

Di-HYDRO-Testosterone is not gentle on the body, it is a lower quality testosterone that ends up taking over receptor sites where ... Rest of Article (http://www.naturalworldnews.com/?p=5)"

Interesting no? It might be hogwash, I don't have the medical experience to know, but it does further go down this road that I thoroughly can see sense it, to do with the body reacting to too low T by making lots of nice potent DHT! rofl

...... nice one body ¬_¬ lol

Decro435 Thu Mar 25, 2010 10:35 am

"most of your testosterone is stored in your semen, when you frequently ejaculate you lose your testosterone, and your body is forced to leverage the little bit it has left.. creating DHT to do the job of normal Testosterone .."

Haha.. get a more reputable source...

Hoppipolla Thu Mar 25, 2010 11:10 am

hehe ok well maybe not that bit! But the idea about it lowering T and increasing DHT fits with a lot of stuff we've been talking and reading about.

Hmm, anywho! All very interesting if you ask me! Man, who would suspect the INTERNET might be the reason a lot of young guys are losing hair xD

That's actually pretty funny hehe Smile

CausticSymmetry Thu Mar 25, 2010 2:34 pm

Regular ejaculation rids toxic metals form the seminal fluid and promotes increases in testosterone.

When I was less healthy than I presently am, I would experience the inflammation after wards. These day it is a much different story.

I believe the real problem is peroxynitrite.

Too many forums speak about doing unnatural practices such as withholding. As far as I'm concerned, given the scientific literature and personal experience, it's better to have regular intercourse.

Over the years, I have read many times over theories about negative consequences of ejaculation, yet the human body is far more complex than DHT and Prolactin consequences. There are several benefits of regular intercourse, and when all factors are in proper balance, intercourse no longer has negative inflammatory response.

Hoppipolla Thu Mar 25, 2010 2:54 pm

Hmm, but what about those guys earlier in the thread who experienced a halt in hair loss or even regrowth after stopping masturbating very regularly?

It's also interesting what Warren said back then about the barber noticing increases in hair loss in young men. I mean, unless the barber or Warren is somehow mistaken, I wonder what could be triggering this!

CausticSymmetry Thu Mar 25, 2010 2:59 pm

Hoppipolla - If one eats a diet conducive to hair loss (most of us), there are dozens of threats to make ejaculation detrimental. However, it doesn't have to be this way.

When it comes right down to it, having good hair increases confidence which in turn, helps increase relationships and everything that comes with it.

When all sources of inflammation are either mitigated or eliminated, which ever applies, one can have their "cake" and eat it too.

When my diet and supplement routine was not up to par, I would suffer from all the negative effects mentioned. This is no longer the case for me.

j87x Thu Mar 25, 2010 5:25 pm

Something I've noticed now that I've weened my propecia down to 3 pills per week is that I'm not nearly as horny as I was when taking it every day. This is strange because most people have the opposite reaction.

sky-walker Thu May 20, 2010 5:59 am

Hello ,
These times i have the average of one ejaculation per week and no doubt about that my hair is stronger, darker and the thickeness improve too.
I don't really know how or why but it's a fact .

tooyoung Mon Jul 05, 2010 8:39 am

Is there any supps we can take to help reverse damage from masturbation and help replenish the body from what's lost?

brandnew Mon Jul 05, 2010 5:18 pm

Zinc would be a good start. I personally think masturbation is a good thing, especially if sex isn't an option. A lot of hair loss seems to be linked with increased prostate size and people with that condition are often encouraged to masturbate to help release the pressure. Since I have slowed down this activity, I have found my libido is much lower.

DouglasM Mon Jul 05, 2010 6:22 pm

longest i've gone without masturbating/ejaculating is 1 month since i was 14 (30 now)

this 1 month happened about a year ago when i was on work i hurt my ankle and i was staying on farm with lots of other people so I didn't feel comfortable enough to do that and I remember i grew my hair out longest its been for awhile and i felt great and hair was very good

Its tough to sustain from thinking of sex, masturbating/ejaculating or having sex... something humans do but I feel very fatigued, puffy, not clear in thinking if i overdo the ejaculating

sky-walker Mon Jul 05, 2010 8:22 pm

I think hair loss mostly due to sex overdo is quite similar to age related hair loss because both are linked to low testosterone level.

When i suffered from fina sides effects, i felt very tired ,depressed , my skin became very dry and my eyes too and my hair was thinning .. I understood sex or masturbating decrease quit a lot testosterone

sky-walker Mon Jul 05, 2010 8:24 pm

sky-walker wrote:I think hair loss mostly due to sex overdo is quite similar to age related hair loss because both are linked to low testosterone level.

When i suffered from fina sides effects, i felt very tired ,depressed , my skin became very dry and my eyes too and my hair was thinning .. I understood sex or masturbating decrease quit a lot testosterone

i forget to write "after masturbating" after "my hair was thinning" Wink

JosephineMarie Tue Jul 06, 2010 4:18 am

tooyoung wrote:Is there any supps we can take to help reverse damage from masturbation and help replenish the body from what's lost?

From what I understand, maca could just be the substance. It is supposed to raise T and P. I've been on it for two months now and have been having sex dreams, and that's not typical for me, so I think it's doing something for me. Wink

magic_gro Tue Jul 06, 2010 8:29 am

Josephine, I assume you are a woman, so are you sure that what applies to you in terms of hormones applies to us too and vice versa?

JosephineMarie Thu Jul 08, 2010 11:15 am

magic_gro wrote:Josephine, I assume you are a woman, so are you sure that what applies to you in terms of hormones applies to us too and vice versa?

I'm fairly certain it does. Check out Dr. Wong's articles at www.totalityofbeing.com. See the Health Articles section. He talks about what maca can do for men and women in terms of creating more T and P. I have been using his product--a maca extract formulated into a tablet, but because of the expense I am now considering just taking pure maca flour instead when the bottle runs out.

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Hairbeback Thu Sep 28, 2017 1:48 pm

Masturbation makes me limp. I do it 2-3 times a day. I have quiet for months in between, I think the longest was 4 months, it was so hard, but my erections were WAY better and I was more aroused. I do believe masturbation to porn does desensitize you. When I quit I would pre cum from kissing cheers

When I masturbate I can barely get it up

Jimbosteve88 Fri Sep 29, 2017 2:42 am

When I don't masturbate for days my itch goes away and my head just feels better somehow but I don't think it has stop shedding, maybe reduce it slightly. But there are a lot of people claiming a long streak will help promote hair regrowth and stop shedding. Perhaps there is some truth to this but it's so hard to do.

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