Excited over progress

So as some of you may know from my other thread I vented a little about my Christmas with the family and my uncle pointing out my recession. This prompted me to get real serious with changing this around and I set out with the goal to maintain what I have, but after my hairline began to grow an inch further from where it once was I'm going to make 2014 my year to move down a NW. These hairs are not full length especially as it gets further from the rest of my hairs.

No, this did not happen in a week after Christmas I've been steadily growing for the past 2 months but this last week has truly been when I put things into high gear.

I get a 15 minute break every two hours at where I work, and instead of sitting in the break room with my coworkers I head to the bathroom with a bottle of Emu Oil and apply a light film on my hairline and do this 3-4 times a day. I also religiously apply my minoxidil to hairline and top of head. On top of this, I use keto 1% and spend 5 min massaging it into my scalp before washing.

Lifestyle changes I've made that I am doing for health and performance related purposes that I didn't start doing with the intention of growing my hair back are as follows:

I dropped my preworkout in exchange for green tea and drink 4-8 cups of it a day for the caffeine boost and health. I've started doing cardio for 30 min on top of my usual weight training. I have also gone on no fap and focus on more sleep.

My supplementation is 7,000 IU Vitamin D3, 1000mg Krill Oil, Vitamin K2, Creatine Monohydrate, and Astaxanthin

Cliffs:
- Minox
- Keto 1%
- Emu Oil

Might be helping?
- Green Tea
- No Fap
- Supps
- More Sleep

Please no flaming I'm a noob to hair restoration and I'm not making this thread to prove with science how what is happening, is happening nor do I have picture proof. I just wanted to share my ancedotal report that people more knowledgeable than I might want to look over to add to their research. If reports like this are not helpful I won't post stuff like this anymore but I hope it helps at least one person  

EDIT: As far as my temples go I really think they might be doomed. I'm progressing everywhere except when it comes to that region I am struggling just to maintain. I'm going to continue research and try to save them though.

Also I almost forgot. Some of you take pomegranate extract. Well, I drink the actual juice on a daily basis as a post workout to restore glycogen. This is also something I don't do with the intention of growing hair but, who knows?

Sounds good :)to get better results have you thought about adding Oleyl oil to your minoxidil or trying out minoxidil sulphate instead and combining this with a 192 pin dermaroller?

Also temples are the hardest place to regrow hair mine have rounded over the last year with the use of minox, dutasteride and CB in oleyl/pg/eth vehicle. I am fast approaching NW2 from NW3

ratbag wrote:Sounds good :)to get better results have you thought about adding Oleyl oil to your minoxidil or trying out minoxidil sulphate instead and combining this with a 192 pin dermaroller?

Also temples are the hardest place to regrow hair mine have rounded over the last year with the use of minox, dutasteride and CB in oleyl/pg/eth vehicle. I am fast approaching NW2 from NW3

Dude that's awesome progress! No, I haven't heard of Oleyl oil, I'll have to look into that, and a derma rollers been on my mind for awhile I'm just a little wary. If I use the derma roller and minoxidil becomes more effective, so too must the side effects from the drug. As of now, I have no side effects from minox, or keto other than hair regrowth. I'll need to look into it further. I've only just begun researching this stuff and I feel overwhelmed but I'm pushing through and won't stop till I'm NW1

Wow I'm really pretty stunned. I woke up this morning and my hairline had receded to a very noticeable degree. I now wonder if the 'progress' I was witnessing were not new hairs, just the current hairs rapidly getting smaller before vanishing. If I had the money, I'd get on IH6 but 100$ or more a month would break me in the long run. This really gutted me. I was  so encouraged that I'd be able to reverse this curse. That after working out and keeping my hair that I'd finally be attractive to women I am attracted to. Life could be worse - I will simply remain celibate for life and transfer that energy to making money. Hair pieces have come a long  way and maybe some day I can afford to purchase a high quality one. This battle is simply not something I was equipped to face... I just don't have the funds. I'm still in disbelief till this day because I never thought this would be something I'd have to be concerned about. Good luck to you all.

Also I just can't see myself taking the dive and getting on propecia. It's far too risky and getting on minox was scary enough.

maybe add dermarolling with 1.5mm

derma roller is cheap enough for me to give a try. I'll go for it.

Don't forget the protocol everyone is trying. Dermaroll at most once a week with 1.5 mm. Go a little hard where you see some blood. Don't use minox till 24 hours after you dermarool otherwise you will absorb too much which will go to your system and may be dangerous. disinfect the roller before and after to avoid infection. I think after 10 rolls you may need to get a new one as the pins become dull. Some people have been getting great results after 3-4 months. Good luck

RisingFist wrote:Don't forget the protocol everyone is trying. Dermaroll at most once a week with 1.5 mm. Go a little hard where you see some blood. Don't use minox till 24 hours after you dermarool otherwise you will absorb too much which will go to your system and may be dangerous. disinfect the roller before and after to avoid infection. I think after 10 rolls you may need to get a new one as the pins become dull. Some people have been getting great results after 3-4 months. Good luck

Thanks, is what you posted above the full protocol? Also should I avoid using emu oil after derma rolling?

pretty much, you can do some searching around if you want more opinions. A lot of people started doing it in august and for some, it is the one thing that's been making a difference after trying other options. As for emu oil, some have suggested to wait a few days after dermarolling because it's anti-inflammatory and it's the acute inflammation that helps with growth factors during wounding.

I kinda doubt your hairline is varying that much that quickly in either direction. I think it's probably mental

Want some cheap alternatives? Check the Detumescence therapy thread on here, dermaroll, emu oil a few times a month, inversion therapy every once in a while after your scalp loosens up, avoid minox or any other prescriptions drugs.... Save your money, you don't need them. Just my 2c.. Hope this helps...

SonofOdin wrote:Wow I'm really pretty stunned. I woke up this morning and my hairline had receded to a very noticeable degree. I now wonder if the 'progress' I was witnessing were not new hairs, just the current hairs rapidly getting smaller before vanishing. If I had the money, I'd get on IH6 but 100$ or more a month would break me in the long run. This really gutted me. I was  so encouraged that I'd be able to reverse this curse. That after working out and keeping my hair that I'd finally be attractive to women I am attracted to. Life could be worse - I will simply remain celibate for life and transfer that energy to making money. Hair pieces have come a long  way and maybe some day I can afford to purchase a high quality one. This battle is simply not something I was equipped to face... I just don't have the funds. I'm still in disbelief till this day because I never thought this would be something I'd have to be concerned about. Good luck to you all.

Also I just can't see myself taking the dive and getting on propecia. It's far too risky and getting on minox was scary enough.

Bro, I know it's hard for us guys to fathom this, but girls, even the hottest ones, don't make judgements the same way guys do. A very, very beautiful, sweet woman could be totally blind to your baldness if you saw yourself the right way. Trust me, confidence and a sense of humour are waaaaay more important to women.

In fact, you could have a problem with women bashing your door down, running after you, simply because you are relaxed, confident and don't take things too seriously. Most women have so many hangups as it is (yes, even the most pretty ones, weirdly enough), they really don't want to be with a guy who is the same way - they need to be reassured, and no guy can do this if he is all-consumed about how he looks.

Also, what if you saw hair loss as something that was good - a kind of signal that your body is giving you to tell you that it doesn't like something you're doing to it? It's not a curse, it's just your body trying to correct its natural balances.

Just my 2c from personal experience - use it / don't use it.

Complexx wrote:Want some cheap alternatives? Check the Detumescence therapy thread on here, dermaroll, emu oil a few times a month, inversion therapy every once in a while after your scalp loosens up, avoid minox or any other prescriptions drugs.... Save your money, you don't need them. Just my 2c.. Hope this helps...

Second this. Dive into the detumescence thread, dude. Free method showing good signs with a number of members.

Alright thanks for the encouragement guys and I literally just spent an hour or two going through the entire detumescence thread.

@hairy potter, I don't know maybe you're right it's just ever since I started taking care of myself, especially adding some muscle to my frame and styling my hair I've for once in my life not been invisible. And now to have this, just as I feel like I've reached a milestone, it's hard.

Anyway maybe this is all a shedding phase. I've only been on minox 2 months. There is a ring of tiny hairs where my old hairline used to be. I can no longer spike my hair up at the front because you can too easily see into my scalp. I don't even notice a shed just hairs seeming to get smaller and smaller until poof, they're gone. I'm now growing my hair out to medium length so that the hairline is no longer visible. Going to go for a messy Ian Somerhalder/Chace Crawford look.

Also, count me in on one of the people to do detumescence religiously. I hope one day I can post in that thread with some success.

SonofOdin wrote:Alright thanks for the encouragement guys and I literally just spent an hour or two going through the entire detumescence thread.

@hairy potter, I don't know maybe you're right it's just ever since I started taking care of myself, especially adding some muscle to my frame and styling my hair I've for once in my life not been invisible. And now to have this, just as I feel like I've reached a milestone, it's hard.

Anyway maybe this is all a shedding phase. I've only been on minox 2 months. There is a ring of tiny hairs where my old hairline used to be. I can no longer spike my hair up at the front because you can too easily see into my scalp. I don't even notice a shed just hairs seeming to get smaller and smaller until poof, they're gone. I'm now growing my hair out to medium length so that the hairline is no longer visible. Going to go for a messy Ian Somerhalder/Chace Crawford look.

Also, count me in on one of the people to do detumescence religiously. I hope one day I can post in that thread with some success.

Nice - welcome to the detumescence group :-)

Hopefully it is the hairs falling out to make way for better stronger hairs. There are many things out there to help lots have had success with RU but sides could appear although not to well up on it. My hair got better with minox after around 6 months then o jumped on DUT and it just keeps getting better.

To anybody contemplating getting on finesteride I would say to use Dut instead as it raises testosterone. Limp dick seems less of an issue on dut and ive not seen a post dut syndrome thread however I may have just not come across one lol

I woke up today and I can't even believe this is real life. My hair is getting its ass kicked. I sent a couple pics to my friend and he couldn't believe they were only two months apart. I'm going to let this topic die now as I made it with the intention of helping others, unaware that I still cannot even help myself. The ring of small hairs around my hairline was not regrowth at all, it was instead rapidly shriveling up into nothing. If I continue posting here it will be in the detumescence thread but I suspect I'll go back to lurking for now.

Two Months Ago

Current

I cannot go with as short of a cut and spike it in the front anymore because hairs further up on my scalp are the ones creating the bangs. The ones the bangs conceal are now miniaturized.

The two photos don't look that different to be honest. Haircuts make a lot of difference. But yeh, welcome to the hair loss train. This detumescence thing is looking alright. Be proactive and keep reading, all is not lost. Plenty of success stories spread accross the forum.

Yea I can't really tell anything from those photos

Probably the best thing you can do is stop freaking out and relax a little bit. Stressing about it is no good.