Extremely depressed I was mutilated as a child.

Always thought circumcision was horrible and cant believe my parents subjected me to it as a baby (thank America :/), but been reading about it a lot lately, cant believe this practice has ever been done , and I have been extremely depressed about it. Made my parents cry over it, they definitely regret but what can you do? I just hope to spread awareness on the topic.

Geez, when i read the subject line I thought you meant something like Satanic ritual abuse. Look, your parents did what they thought was right
at the time. (That's what I have to remind myself of also, re certain things such as conventional dentistry, including mercury fillings, when I was growing up.)
Since what's done is done, I suggest you accept it and move on. I'm sure you have many things to be happy about,
why make yourself miserable by dwelling on this?

Unless something went horribly wrong it's not THAT big of a deal. I agree that the practice isn't necessary and is barbaric but don't feel any worse off for it.

I'm %100 there are various forums around the web that deal with this specific issue so I would sugest trying out one of those if it really bothers you that much.

I know but I cant help but feel resent towards my parents, it should be common sense and evolution has happened for hundreds of thousands of years. you dont just cut off a persons body without their permission just because the Medical Propaganda tells you to. Yes I try not to dwell on it but I like to share the negative aspects of it to help inform parents upcoming decisions.

This forum is about all health issues really so I hope people don't mind me posting this on here.

But you say you are "extremely depressed." OK, feel it all, but at the same time, try to focus on pleasanter topics, even if it's just something like a funny comedy on Netflix.
You'll be more effective at assisting others if you are in good shape emotionally.

It's not about medical propaganda. It dates back thousands upon thousands of years--Biblical law. My understanding is that we're all born sovereign and free, but as soon as two things happen, you're turned into a "subject" (citizen).

1) Birth Certificate Registration (which, believe it or not, IS optional)

2) Circumcision. Sovereigns were never circumsized.

No point of getting upset with your parents, personally, I am glad that I was from an aesthetics perspective.

You could start by growing up.

Oh for God's sake. LOT is right. Grow up. Feel sorrier for the women that have their whole clitorus removed. At least you can still enjoy sex. Circumcision has a lot going for it.



"And despite the risks, circumcision has several benefits. In August 2012, the American Academy of Pediatrics issued a revised policy statement, which outlines the advantages of circumcision.
For one, there is a decreased risk of urinary tract infections within the first year of life. According to a study published in The Pediatric Infectious Disease Journal, the prevalence of urinary tract infections was 2.4 percent in circumcised newborns compared to 20.1 percent of uncircumcised newborns.
Circumcision has also been shown to reduce the risk of penile cancer and provide protection against the transmission of sexually transmitted infections. According to data studied by the American Academy of Pediatrics, cases of herpes simplex virus type 2 were 28 percent to 34 percent lower in men who had been circumcised. In addition, the risk of contracting HPV was reduced by 30 to 40 percent with circumcision.
The risk of contracting HIV is also significantly lowered when a boy is circumcised. According to the World Health Organization, the risk of a woman infecting a circumcised man with HIV is reduced by approximately 60 percent.
The American Academy of Pediatrics also cites the prevention of foreskin infections, phimosis—the inability of the foreskin to retract—and easier hygiene as benefits of the procedure. In addition, they did not find any data to conclude that circumcision alters sexual function or sensitivity.
“On balance, we feel that the benefits probably outweigh the risks, but not by such a margin that we’re advocating circumcision for everybody,” Freedman said."

i mean, it sucks, but lets face it. circumscribed dicks dont look bad, and you are still capable of experiencing ample sexual pleasure.

mistyisland wrote:In addition, they did not find any data to conclude that circumcision alters sexual function or sensitivity.

While I don't know any personally, there have been several people who have posted on the internet of being circumcised in their teens and they report a large reduction in sensitivity.

I could see the effect being more pronounced if done later in life for sure. There are a lot of nerves in there BUT if it's done while young and the brain is still adapting how it interprets those signals then I don't think you would likely lose much if any sensitivity. I am circumcised and I practice tantric sex and pother things and let me tell you I DEFINITE:Y have better/more intense/longer orgasms than most guys I know/guys girls I've been with have previously been with, cut or not.

It also has a LOT to do with getting in touch with yourself sexually. SO MANY PEOPLE have no idea. So many girls I've been with that think they can only have clitoral orgasms etc.... Be pro-active and find out what works for you and stop looking at the grass on the other side of the fence. I do think that circumcision is worthy of some debate but I definitely think it is smaaaaaall potatoes unless it is botched. Definitely not something to get mad at ma and pa for imo, especially since the world they lived in when you would have had it done is TOTALLY different than the one we live in now. Don't forget that until a couple decades ago the internet as it is didn't exist and even 7 years ago or so it was NO WEHRE near as "good" as it is now in terms of access to information for the average person.

http://www.pegym.com/forums/foreskin-restoration-forum/

I agree Duketronix, there are definitely methods to overcome the less sensitivity from circumcision where it would be no big deal. The lack of sensitivity is said to be especially prominent when older though...supposedly. When young, no big deal. But when older, there will be some men opting for viagra because of it.

With that said, women prefer circumcision in the US.


Also, interestingly, circumcision has only been in the US for a little over a hundred years and was done to inhibit sensitivity. It would be no different as having the clitoris always exposed, rubbing on clothes, etc for the women on the forum to understand. It seems some women don't understand until this is brought up and then they start to understand a bit better. Other methods to inhibit sex were being spread which have all disappeared but circumcision is still prevalent.

Also, it has been mentioned that circumcision reduces the amount of orgone/chi/etc. created. As well as pierced ears has been mentioned as well. Just another method among many that is done that reduces health, reduce global population, etc.. They've been talking about the world being overpopulated for centuries, lol.

Makes one start to understand why West countries pushes circumcision on the African continent. Considering the Western countries has been actively trying to reduce their population and give them ill health as well as pharmaceutical companies experimenting on them first for a very long-time.

But again, I agree with Duktronix. No big deal. There are methods to overcome it. Not to mention women prefer it. With that said, I would recommend against continuing the practice as well as piercing a babies or infants ears.

the circumcised penis symbolizes the babylonian fish-god, oannes. only mystery school initiates know about this.

look: http://aliensandancientcivilizations.com/oannes2.jpg

to the OP, try not to focus on the perceived negative(many feel it is a positive). As others have mentioned access to health information was limited until recently. Please do not blame your parents for this as at the time they thought they were doing the right thing(again, it's not necessarily the wrong thing). JDP is right, American women prefer cut but from my experience they really don't care either way

For what it's worth a cousin of mine had the operation done at 19 as most males in the fam are un cut. He said there was a noticeable difference in sensitivity but cleaner, however Duke brings up an interesting point about it happening at such a young age lessening the effects.

To the OP- Look in to foreskin restoration, it is a very simple process, all it is is stretching the skin a little bit every week and allowing the skin to build more skin cells. You can do this by hand but it is best to use a device that you leave on all day to hold the skin in the stretched place. Using the device will actually make the skin taper off and look just like a real uncurcumscized penis in the long run. If you just do it by hand you won't get the tapered look at the end of the skin and will look kind of weird.

To all of you telling the OP to get over it and grow up, you all can go to hell. If a female is tampered with at birth it's crying rape and murder, but when it happens to a male it's "Grow up, man up, etc." It's blatant sexism.

I don't think it's a big deal when it comes to sensitivity, because I have read countless studies on either side, some showing that circumscized has more sexual enjoyment, other studies showing that uncircumscized has more. So its really a toss up. Yes, a lot of men get circumscized once their adults and they say they feel more pleasure. So this idea that uncircumscized is always better is a myth.

HOWEVER I will say that it does seem to be true that the circumscized penis will lose sensitivity through age just like any exposed skin will. Not only exposure to the air but having to rub against your pants all day for years, this over a long period of time will reduce sensitivity.

To Xenon - I agree there is some kind of esoteric reasoning behind circumscision. The ancient egyptians were themselves cut, and when they began getting into long wars with the Peoples of the Sea they were amazed to find that their enemies were cut as well. They were amazed at how a people who just seemed to pop up out of nowhere, could have the same religious, cultural tradition.

This tradition is something very very old, far older than Christianity or any other modern religion. It's possible that this amount of pain happening minutes after being born causes psychological issues for the entire life that could be more beneficial to the civilization and society as a whole? It is proven that Post traumatic stress disorder is much higher in circumscized men. Just my personal opinion, but I think being cut at birth creates the foundation for a personality type of a loyal worker, husband, family man kind of guy who is needed to keep civilization going. I think if a man is un-cut, he is a bit more likely to be a wild man.

Dude, you do NOT want a foreskin. It's a hygiene nightmare. Think camping with your girlfriend and no running water.

I am angry at my parents for NOT having it done - at least 3 times per day.

I am sorry, but curcumcision poses no benefits I find that poppycock and the study insufficent.

That is like saying cuting off your eyelid has benefits the foreskin is there for a reason

meatwad wrote:I am angry at my parents for NOT having it done - at least 3 times per day.

hahaha, I'm sorry but this just cracked me up...

Hairbeback wrote:I am sorry, but curcumcision poses no benefits I find that poppycock and the study insufficent.

That is like saying cuting off your eyelid has benefits the foreskin is there for a reason

Not to be crass (ok, to be absurdly crass), but I dare you to blow a homeless guy who is uncircumcised and then repeat your assertion.

Next subject!

Circumcision has ZERO health benefits, it's just bullshit. Circumcision = medical fraud. Your parents probably thought they were doing something good, but they were just ignorant.

HIV, hygiene, penile cancer etc. this is just not true. Yes there are some pseudo scientific studies about it, but these benefits don't manifest into the real world.
The rest of the world is just doing fine without circumcision, they don't suffer from all these problems circumcision is supposed to cure.
Circumcision was introduced in UK/USA to prevent masturbation. Nothing to do with health.

You can search for natural foreskin restoration (forget surgery) and get back some sensitivity. Unfortunately, the nerves (about 20,000) in the foreskin will never come back. What is lost is lost, you have to accept it.
The best place is here : http://foreskin-restoration.net/forum/

You can also search for therapeutic help (EMDR, hypnosis, primal therapy).
http://www.primal-page.com/neonatal.htm

Has anyone done foreskin restoration here? I was curious about it a few months back.

niff1250 wrote:Circumcision has ZERO health benefits, it's just bullshit.

I Feel the need to contribute here. I wasn't circumcised at birth because of some anti-circumcision video my parents watched. At the age of 5 I got an infection in the foreskin that progressed to the point where I could barely take a piss - and I was then circumcised. Same thing happened to my brother and several friends I know. No negative effects to my knowledge. I know there have been uncircumcised men since the beginning of time, but without proper hygiene it DOES cause problems.

BTW circumcision is not even in the same ballpark as female genital mutilation. VERY different motives and physiological effects involved.

Can we please delete this thread. It's completely OT and distracting.

TrueGround wrote:Can we please delete this thread. It's completely OT and distracting.

It's obviously OT from the title of the thread - but it's a health topic nonetheless. Anyone who finds it distracting doesn't have to click on it. It will go away just like all other threads eventually do.