Coconut milk and fat

Coconut milk is loaded with saturated fat up to 20% !!

This the exact kind of fat to avoid! Why are some then recommending coconut milk as a healthy alternative to cow milk?

cpio - Saturated fat is extremely healthy.

With zero thanks to the vegetable oil industry, the propaganda has loomed large to indoctrinate the public into believing that saturated fat is harmful.

For a quick reference check this out:

http://www.amazon.com/Saturated-Fat-Save-Your-Life/dp/0941599493

Both saturated fat and trans-fat that come from natural sources are in fact good for you. These natural sources included meat, eggs, coconut, palm and diary.

Without enough of these fats, particularly saturated fat, your body cannot utilize the essential fats (Omega-3) as well.

Of course the trans-fats you want to avoid come from industrial and/or processed foods, refined and fast foods.
natural trans-fat and saturated fat lower your cholesterol and decrease your risk of heart disease, diabetes and arthritis.

Many tests before and after these foods consistently, show on meat, eggs and dairy the above to be true.

There are many studies which had lumped saturated fats in with industrial trans-fats, and these falsely implicate saturated fats. There are many good studies that prove saturated fat to be very healthy.

Coconut oil is literally a super food.

Check this out for more info as well:

http://www.westonaprice.org/knowyourfats/import_sat_fat.html

Sadly, much of the scientific community still think that vegetable oils are healthy. They are highly unstable, increase DHT, convert into free radical feasts when heating and easily change into dangerous types of trans-fat.

I remember the good ol' days when french fries were cooked in animal fat instead of vegetable oil. They tasted better and were not as bad for you.

Regarding coconut again, I actually own this book. It's awesome:

http://www.amazon.com/Coconut-Miracle-Previously-published-Healing/dp/1583332049

I never eat french fries since so much of the starch turn into acrylamid during the heating process, even more so than in baked potatoes.

I think in general boiled stuff is better than fried.

But some vegetable oils are healthy, like olive oil, rasp oil, hemp, flax oil, right?

cpio wrote:I never eat french fries since so much of the starch turn into acrylamid during the heating process, even more so than in baked potatoes.

I think in general boiled stuff is better than fried.

But some vegetable oils are healthy, like olive oil, rasp oil, hemp, flax oil, right?

Rapeseed is shit, olive is neutral, hemp is good, and take fish oils instead of flax.

Joejoe why is rapeseed bad? I got a bottle of it organic and coldpressed, I use it for cooking.

cpio - Rape seed oil also known as Canola oil is very bad for hair. It raise 5-alpha reductase levels.

"But some vegetable oils are healthy, like olive oil, rasp oil, hemp, flax oil, right"

Olive oil and raspberry oil are fruit oils. As JJB said, olive oil is neutral, it consists of mostly omega-9.

hemp and flax oil are seed oils. Hemp has GLA, omega-3 and 6. Like JJB said, great stuff. Flax oil is good of course as it's phenomenally high in Omega-3.

Take a look at this study, it relates to rapeseed (canola oil) compared with other oils:

http://www.pan.olsztyn.pl/repbiol/docs/pdfs/repbiol_vol2_num3_page277.pdf

Another thing about rapeseed (canola oil) is that when heated, it becomes a soup of free radicals. This is a food not meant for human consumption, yet it is a "food" that is heavily marketed as a "health oil"

Interestingly, ppl from South India use a lot of Cocunut - just about every dish has some form of coconut element in there (coconut milk, cocunut fruit, cocunut oil, etc) - and they have one of the highest (in India) heart issues as well. I do not have any scientific data on this, just what ppl around my work tells me regarding that region.

I hope we are right this time and do not find 5 years from now that we have been cloggin our arteries by gulping Cocunut oil...

lund - In India, the predominant oil they use over there is cottonseed oil, which is absolutely the worst oil one can use.
They use it because it's ultra cheap. They have the worst indicences of diabetes complications over there and they use a lot of sugar. The heart disease rates and horrific diabetes complications are probably due to cottonseed oil consumption on a large scale and high sugar use.

Check out this page on Coconut oil

http://www.thaifoodandtravel.com/features/cocgood.html

Guys thanks for the info (specially the warning about Canola oil), this forum is very valuable!

IH, I have family that lives there so I have a little bit more direct info from personal experience - my roots take me back there as well. I was not generalizing it for all over India, you may be correct for cottonseed oil consumption in overall India. However; specifc to South India - ppl there use Cocunut in everything, just about every meal is prepared with some form of Coconut in it - and they have heart issues in that population as well.

I am not reaching any conclusions here tying the 2 together, but the cocunut consumption seems to be not that helpful either - so it seems.

CausticSymmetry wrote:lund - In India, the predominant oil they use over there is cottonseed oil, which is absolutely the worst oil one can use.
They use it because it's ultra cheap. They have the worst indicences of diabetes complications over there and they use a lot of sugar. The heart disease rates and horrific diabetes complications are probably due to cottonseed oil consumption on a large scale and high sugar use.

Check out this page on Coconut oil

http://www.thaifoodandtravel.com/features/cocgood.html

That's fine Lund, but it's quite a stretch to tie Coconut Oil into all that as the culprit. In fact, one could argue that Coconut Oil helps to keep heart issues from getting as bad as they otherwise would be were Coconut Milk/Oil not to be included in every meal as it is now. Sort of an extreme example but if you're slamming donuts and burgers with a side of coconut milk for every one of your meals, it wouldn't be terribly fair to blame the coconuts for your health woes.

I Agree - I am merely pointing out that the end result of consuming a decent quantity of cocunut in their meals everyday has not resulted in anything to write home about. Or we may conculde that it was not strong enough of an element to protect them from the heart disease(s). I am sure other factors could be there.

BTW beef is big no no in a large population there (due to religious beliefs) so the only meat is chicken / goat and that is even for those who are not otherwise strictly vegetarian. Fastfood is a relatively new concept in that part of the world - last 5 years may be?

nidhogge wrote:That's fine Lund, but it's quite a stretch to tie Coconut Oil into all that as the culprit. In fact, one could argue that Coconut Oil helps to keep heart issues from getting as bad as they otherwise would be were Coconut Milk/Oil not to be included in every meal as it is now. Sort of an extreme example but if you're slamming donuts and burgers with a side of coconut milk for every one of your meals, it wouldn't be terribly fair to blame the coconuts for your health woes.

CausticSymmetry wrote:cpio - Saturated fat is extremely healthy.

I remember the good ol' days when french fries were cooked in animal fat instead of vegetable oil.  They tasted better and were not as bad for you.

What do you think of goose fat CS? Do you think it would be healthy to have some everyday? Is the PUFA content ok?

I've actually changed my milk from cows milk to alternative forms of milk a month ago.

I am currently drinking coconut milk, and I was actually going to ask this question about its fat content on this forum. Good to see it not bad for us.

I had also tried goat's milk but it tastes kinda weird. Coconut milk on the other hand tastes even better that cow's milk IMO.

@lund - What about the consumption of bread with meals (ie. chapati's & naan) they are made from wheat? Wheat has been linked to inflammation and bad cholesterol.