Need help stopping the shed!

Hi Guys,

My first post here

I need some assistance, I am M 28.

I Still have hair but its becoming thinner... I think its due to the fact that I shed like crazy all the time... and every time I wash my hair or brush it.. it falls...

Can anyone recommend something? I tried both fin / minox but that gave me side effects....

I'd like to stop the shedding at least...and than go from there...

Thanks!

heh, tell me about it man, this is my current goal too!

If you are having Fin sides then there are a few options for you

a) drop your Fin dosage a bit (0.5, 0.25, perhaps even alternate days) and/or use something like Nizoral.

b) go on the IH regimen

c) Put together a regimen like I've been trying, it's in my thread: https://immortalhair.forumotion.com/natural-hair-regrowth-f1/hoppi-s-super-duper-unique-new-approach-to-tackling-hair-loss-making-regimens-_-t2958.htm


erm.. oh, or you could go for an entirely topical regimen, but I dunno, that always just feels like a losing battle to me!

But yeah I know it's tough, and unpleasant. If it happened reasonably suddenly like me, then maybe it is worth examining things like thyroid, DHT levels etc. Are you stressed? High carb/sugar diet? You may also want to try this:

http://www.drbobnd.com/low_thyroid.htm


Hoppi

thanks for the reply,

well I don't wanna get back on fix / minox. I had that shed for a long time, my thyroid should be ok as I go for yearly checkups...thyroid tests included and I checked all symptoms of thyroid issues none of them I seem to have...

I wanted to know to stop it using natural stuff if possible. I also don't like topicals so much..

whats the IH regimen? is it effective?

lostwind wrote:

whats the IH regimen? is it effective?

Here it is: http://www.immortalhair.org/mycurrentregimen.htm

You should, at the very least, go to your local nutrition shop or online (iHerb, Vitacost), and buy some curcumin and resveratrol (Jarrow, Country Life): an inexpensive way to control scalp inflammation. Then I would add the following vitamins and mineral: vitamin C, vitamin D3, vitamin E (tocotrienols), and magnesium. Lastly, MSM should help with the thickness and texture of your hair.

They have helped my hair loss condition tremendously. And I would be really surprised if you didn't see a major improvement.

TN

The Natural wrote:You should, at the very least, go to your local nutrition shop or online (iHerb, Vitacost), and buy some curcumin and resveratrol (Jarrow, Country Life): an inexpensive way to control scalp inflammation. Then I would add the following vitamins and mineral: vitamin C, vitamin D3, vitamin E (tocotrienols), and magnesium. Lastly, MSM should help with the thickness and texture of your hair.

They have helped my hair loss condition tremendously. And I would be really surprised if you didn't see a major improvement.

TN

thanks for the reply... what are the dosages you are taking? I am also going to add some EFA's since I am a vegetarian and I dont get a lot of them.

I also heard there is something better than MSM...cant remember the name though...

Presently about:

curcumin - 500 mg.
resveratrol (trans) - 200 mg.
vitamin C - 1000 mg.
vitamin D - 1000 mg.
vitamin E (tocotrienols) - 125 mg.
magnesium - 280 mg.
MSM - 2 or 3000 mg.

EFAs were the craze in hair loss forums four or five years ago. But from my readings and experience, one really needs to pay attention to the proper ratio of Omega 6 and Omega 3 fatty acids, or their hair loss condition will worsen.

I used 2:1 and 3:1 (Omega 6: Omega 3), and after some initial success (stabilization of hair loss, slight regrowth) my hair began thinning badly again after three months. I got tired of trying to figure out how many borage oil and fish oil supplements should be taken, so I just stopped using them altogether.

For EFA's, its not for hairloss... but for mysef. since i dont have many other sources of EFA's. I read good stuff about two tablesppons of hemp oil per day mixed with something...and very balanced. Apparently the best source of EFA's

Thanks, I never knew that magnesium can do good for hair... can one be deficient in it?

lostwind wrote:Thanks, I never knew that magnesium can do good for hair... can one be deficient in it?

Everything that we consume affects our hair in some way. Hopefully, you will have a positive experience with the hemp oil.


An excerpt from my readings, THE MIRACLE OF MAGNESIUM by Dr. Hotze:

"The Recommended Daily Allowance (RDA) for magnesium is between 350 and 400 milligrams per day, which is just enough to ward off outright deficiency. But for optimal health and for the twenty-two conditions that are triggered by magnesium deficiency, perhaps twice as much magnesium is needed. One of the highest sources of magnesium is kelp, but one tsp. only has about 30 milligrams. One tablespoon of almonds has 33 milligrams. Because we probably don’t get nearly enough magnesium from out diet we have to investigate magnesium supplements .".

I have found that topical kefir decreases shedding in a great manner.

NrwgnKID wrote:I have found that topical kefir decreases shedding in a great manner.

NrwKID,

do you see the results immediately? ive tried once so far but its still bad. how often do you apply it and for how long? thanks

Yes, right away. The first application I got up to 10 hairs in my hand while massaging it in. The next day less, and so on. I saw less hairshed after showering when starting kefir. I used it every day for 2 weeks, now, a couple of times a week. Others on this forum have reported similiar experiences.

NrwgnKID wrote:Yes, right away. The first application I got up to 10 hairs in my hand while massaging it in. The next day less, and so on. I saw less hairshed after showering when starting kefir. I used it every day for 2 weeks, now, a couple of times a week. Others on this forum have reported similiar experiences.

Hey, that's some amazing news.. what kind of kefir are we talking about?

I used store bought organic kefir. It has been stated here on the forum that a home-made kefir would be superior to the store-bought. It has also been stated(dont know if it is true or not), that kefir will not regrow hair, only stop aggressive fall out, or shedding.

Guys, I read the threads, and I see that people are using the "top 6", what is it exactly?

http://www.immortalhair.org/mycurrentregimen.htm

CS: As I previously mentioned, I am leaning towards hemp oil because its plant derived, and I am a vegetarian...Krill is fish I believe, also, Hemp oil, provides balanced amount of omega 3 & 6. Do you have any experience with it?

lostwind - While hemp oil has a very nice ratio of n-6 to n-3 fatty acids, about 3:1, and it contains some GLA, another plus. However, it would be a good idea to insure that you're taking in enough zinc, magnesium and b6 to help convert the alpha linoleic acid into EPA & DHA. Males have a low conversion of ALA into DHA/EPA, which hovers about 1%.

Okay, so I would need to take something extra to the top 6? or that would be a generalized case? (for Krill oil too)

Hi CS, another question, in the top 6, is there a dht blocker in there? is there any reason you aren't including saw palmetto in there?

thanks, im not so good with this

One more thing, I tried to edit the previous post, but there is no option on these forums? always have to reply as a new post?

I also wanted to ask, I see people are taking Iosol here from iherb, could this be a benefit to me? what if my thyroid is ok, can taking iosol start causing thyroid issues etc?

Just wondering, maybe that's one of the things I need as well, so I dont want to miss out but also not to destroy my thyroid

Thanks again!

lostwind - I used saw palmetto in the late 90's. I have not found it reliable and there are some problems with it.

I do not see the problem with DHT itself, but instead other factors, which can render DHT harmless.

In any event, Curcumin inhibits DHT, as does the Krill oil. However, there is much more at work on more
important mechanisms.

For example, if the inflammation mediators such as DKK-1, TGF-beta, MMP-9, PLA,2, COX-2, iNOS, TNF-a are downregulated, suppressed or at least attenuated, DHT is harmless.

If there is an electron shortage (caused from "X"), DHT will be more of a threat, so the regimen is designed to increase endogenous (body produced) antioxidant enzymes to counteract this shortage.