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Post  ITITCHES Tue Jul 14, 2009 6:40 pm

There's talk of teeth whitening, but what I'd like to see is talk about actual regeneration.

What's the word on novamin? How much and how exactly is xylitol beneficial? What does oiling the teeth actually *do* - dampen friction and protect or regenerate teeth?

I've always had good, if not exactly snow-white teeth, but recently, I *think* I see some deterioration - in particular, a suspicious little hole in one of my front. Now, my question is, you think it could have been caused by all the dark chocolate and herbal tea I drink, in other words, is it a sign of overall deterioration, or is it localized?

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Post  jksl Tue Jul 14, 2009 7:01 pm

you might wanna check this out:

http://www.crca.asn.au/media/new-treatment-re-grows-decayed-tooth-enamel
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Post  Abhi Tue Jul 14, 2009 8:00 pm

My teeth had become very sensitive but when I started taking soymilk from a local supermarket my sensitivity was gone...completely. From what I get Vitamin k2 is negligible in Soymilk but even that small amount stopped my teeth from being so sensitive (There are some sources which say K2 helps build enamel). I didn't realize this at the time and stopped drinking soymilk. Sure enough the sensitivity returned. Am gonna try eating an egg every other day and see if this helps my teeth. I might try experimenting with soymilk too.
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Post  jksl Tue Jul 14, 2009 8:09 pm

i think getting some grass-fed, organic butter in your diet - rather than soymilk - is a safer way to get some K2 (mk7). Or you can just buy the supplements.
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Post  Abhi Tue Jul 14, 2009 10:53 pm

K2 supplements are not available in our country and organic food is still not a rage here. So I have to improvise and find out foods which are found easily over here. I know soy especially non-fermented one is not a good choice for a K2 source but I have no other option. Crying or Very sad
I hope a cup of soymilk every other day won't cause a major issue with my hormones.
If I buy supplements from abroad I end up paying many times the price of the original product as shipping. I would surely try finding some organic butter around here.
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Post  jksl Tue Jul 14, 2009 11:44 pm

Which country are you in?
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Post  Gibson Wed Jul 15, 2009 2:29 pm

This toothpaste works for me as advertised and has regenerated enamel:
http://www.pronamel.us/
highly recommend

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Post  Abhi Wed Jul 15, 2009 5:25 pm

jksl wrote:Which country are you in?
India
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Post  ITITCHES Tue Jul 21, 2009 11:33 pm

The matter is, as it turns out, very interesting:

http://quatrepattes.wordpress.com/2007/10/01/tooth-regeneration/

I'll tell you one thing - I always had great teeth back as a wee kid. Best of the lot - and guess what? I barely ever brushed at all. Now, my teeth of today are very good, but certainly not the best - especially now with this big chip in the front and the fact that they're kind of turning translucent.

Whilst I will cut down on tomato significantly, as well as completely drop my herbal tea 'regimen', I think there's one teeth-killer I share with many of us here which I don't exactly know how to tackle - I don't drink any dairy.

Teeth damage shares much with and is as relevant to male pattern baldness as anything non-scalp related ever will be: both are supposedly irreversible, and with new discoveries each day - as we well know - hair-wise at least - it's not exactly at all true... And meanwhile, where do we stand? We still brush with SLS-infested FDA muck. Remember how long ago you dropped your SLS shampoo?

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Post  Yanks Fri Jul 09, 2010 6:35 am

regarding that calcium/flouride treatment you linked to... I'd like to try it because I've had a lot of problems with cavities and sensitivity over the past year or two. I've been trying to follow the no flouride protocal without results. I actually broke a chip off of one of my molars today, found a new cavity and developed an even worse sensitivity to chewing.

My issue is absorbing that extra potent flouride and calcium. I feel as if it would cause major problems for hair loss as well as general health, poxxibly in 1 treatment.

CS, can you wegih in on this?
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Post  CausticSymmetry Fri Jul 09, 2010 7:23 am

Yanks - Here's some info I wrote about related to teeth building.

http://www.immortalhair.org/apps/blog/show/3110745-cave-women-never-brushed-their-teeth-

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Post  tonyj Fri Jul 09, 2010 7:59 am

Damn it man! Those pictures are distracting! Now I'm being pummeled by questions from my female peers on my reading material.
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Post  Abhi Sat Jul 10, 2010 3:56 am

Haha...tell them u r a male and have requirements.... Laughing Infact show them u r proud of ur behavior.
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Post  j87x Sat Jul 10, 2010 12:13 pm

Pronamel is just regular toothpaste, there is nothing special about it. It's big secret - it contains fluoride, wow!

I've been using Arm & Hammer Age Defying toothpase, which contains liquid calcium, or "amorphous calcium phosphate." This was first used in the toothpaste "Enamelon" in 1999 but it failed commercially, so now only Arm & Hammer seems to have it. Enamelon orignally had 2 separated tubes to keep the calcium and phosphate from mixing until it was in your mouth, however Arm & Hammer does not do this. So either they have upgraded their technology somehow so it's stabilized, or it's worthless. I also rotate with some natural toothpastes.

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Post  magic_gro Sun Jul 11, 2010 10:47 am

wasn't the forum orientation that fluoride toothpastes are bad?
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Post  CausticSymmetry Tue Jul 13, 2010 11:16 am

magic_gro - Yes, I would hope so. Fluoride is a dangerous neurotoxin and thyroid inhibiting substance.


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Post  goten574 Tue Jul 13, 2010 11:39 am

CausticSymmetry wrote:magic_gro - Yes, I would hope so. Fluoride is a dangerous neurotoxin and thyroid inhibiting substance.


Why is it put in public water if it's so dangerous? I know it has positive things too but if it's a neurotoxin, surely the disadvantages outweigh the advantages?
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Post  CausticSymmetry Tue Jul 13, 2010 12:17 pm

goten574 - I only touched this tissue briefly here:

http://www.immortalhair.org/apps/blog/show/1658911-world-s-largest-toxic-experiment

The reason why fluoride was added is a bit of a long story. Primarily, dentists were convinced by indoctrination process when aluminium industry needed to get rid of the common byproduct of its manufacture (fluoride).

Fluoride has no place in the human body, and it's just one of many widespread falsehoods promoted to the public. I could think of hundreds of other examples.

Marketing shape perceptions, which become perceived reality to most people I think.

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Post  goten574 Wed Jul 14, 2010 5:21 am

CausticSymmetry wrote:goten574 - I only touched this tissue briefly here:

http://www.immortalhair.org/apps/blog/show/1658911-world-s-largest-toxic-experiment

The reason why fluoride was added is a bit of a long story. Primarily, dentists were convinced by indoctrination process when aluminium industry needed to get rid of the common byproduct of its manufacture (fluoride).

Fluoride has no place in the human body, and it's just one of many widespread falsehoods promoted to the public. I could think of hundreds of other examples.

Marketing shape perceptions, which become perceived reality to most people I think.

I hear that a deficiency in fluoride can weaken bones (of course, too much can have the same effect). I also heard that half the absorbed fluoride is excreted in urine, while almost all of the remaining becomes part of bone and tissue. Did I hear wrong? I know there are many bad effects of fluoride but isn't saying it has no place in the human body a bit extreme?
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Post  TheFunkyStumpfighter Wed Jul 14, 2010 6:33 am

It only seems to help build bone and teeth because it takes the place of iodine, and most are iodine deficient. While it may increase the density of these things, they are just as weak as when you started out as it is not the element designed for those spaces (which is why flouride fails miserably as a treatment for osteoperosis). If one was not iodine deficient at all, i.e. all their tissues were adequately supplied and enriched with iodine, taking flouride would actually make them weaker, as the flouride would displace the rightful iodine from the tissue. It is this same displacement that depresses the thyroid.

The difference between iodine and flouride in this way is the difference between a nail and a screw. You can fit a nail in a screws hole, but the screw is exponentially more securing than a nail. You could build a mansion using nothing but nails, and it'll look like its nice and strong, but God help you when a wind blows through.

Sodium flouride is rat poison, plain and simple. Would you open up a box of rat poison and take the equivalent of 8 glasses of water and 2 squirts of toothpaste out of this box and eat it? It's only tangible effect on the human body is through its neurotoxic effects. We use it to kill rats, the Germans used it to pacify the Jews in the camps, the Russians used it to pacify the public, and the whole Western world uses it as an antidepressant. You wont find a study less than half a decade old touting its benefits.

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Post  j87x Wed Jul 14, 2010 10:20 am

TheFunkyStumpfighter wrote:It only seems to help build bone and teeth because it takes the place of iodine, and most are iodine deficient. While it may increase the density of these things, they are just as weak as when you started out as it is not the element designed for those spaces (which is why flouride fails miserably as a treatment for osteoperosis). If one was not iodine deficient at all, i.e. all their tissues were adequately supplied and enriched with iodine, taking flouride would actually make them weaker, as the flouride would displace the rightful iodine from the tissue. It is this same displacement that depresses the thyroid.

The difference between iodine and flouride in this way is the difference between a nail and a screw. You can fit a nail in a screws hole, but the screw is exponentially more securing than a nail. You could build a mansion using nothing but nails, and it'll look like its nice and strong, but God help you when a wind blows through.

Sodium flouride is rat poison, plain and simple. Would you open up a box of rat poison and take the equivalent of 8 glasses of water and 2 squirts of toothpaste out of this box and eat it? It's only tangible effect on the human body is through its neurotoxic effects. We use it to kill rats, the Germans used it to pacify the Jews in the camps, the Russians used it to pacify the public, and the whole Western world uses it as an antidepressant. You wont find a study less than half a decade old touting its benefits.

So it would be beneficial to brush your teeth with iodine?

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Post  CausticSymmetry Wed Jul 14, 2010 10:28 am

Fluoride has zero requirement for the body. It's the leading (and only cause) of dental fluorosis (transparant teeth), it also causes osteoarthritis, bone cancer, thyroid disruption, etc.


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Post  goten574 Wed Jul 14, 2010 11:06 am

CausticSymmetry wrote:Fluoride has zero requirement for the body. It's the leading (and only cause) of dental fluorosis (transparant teeth), it also causes osteoarthritis, bone cancer, thyroid disruption, etc.


What about Chloride? because Chloride and Fluoride are linked like Calcium & Magnesium and Zinc & Potassium.
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Post  goten574 Mon Jul 19, 2010 12:53 am

Whether Fluroide is good or bad for teeth, I want to ask how do I correct the transparancy of teeth?
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Post  brandnew Mon Jul 19, 2010 8:55 am

I have some white/yellow spots on my front teeth. I guess this is from too much fluoride. The thing is, I have had this since I was a young child. Does that mean I have had fluoride poisoning my whole life or is it something that just comes and goes?

Ive started taking high doses of Iodine so I hope that will replace it.

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