Re: Low Carb diet induced diffuse MPB, calcification, thyroid or liver?

masterfree Wed Jan 12, 2011 3:24 am

By the way the gallbladder/liver connection could be the thing that kick started for me. I am still investigating but I found a scientific paper that says in little as 4 weeks into a rapid weight loss diet new gallstones can form. In my case I started losing hair about 8 weeks after I started the low carb diet.

A sudden overload on the liver may have altered it s ability to filter out excessive hormones in the blood , who knows.

I also found people who started losing hair after being diagnosed with gallstones. I found their posts on a health forum, not related to hair loss.

Calcification theory is also very plausible.

We will see.

ubraj Wed Jan 12, 2011 5:21 am

a < r,

I'm not really 100% sure regarding your other questions so I don't want to answer... don't want to give misdirection. I try to give answers that I know are right. However, best thing to remember is that the iron from meat is what's absorbed the most. The non-heme iron from supplements, plants, etc. isn't that big of a deal.

Regarding minerals to balance the iron, etc, best to use something like earthing/grounding for proper mineralization. Otherwise, could be running around in circles taking supplements to balance. Not to mention, when positively charged makes it all the more complicated.

FireFist Wed Jan 12, 2011 5:38 am

Blood donation recommanded for everyone JDP?

masterfree Wed Jan 12, 2011 7:20 am

FireFist wrote:Blood donation recommanded for everyone JDP?

I think he implied YES for all but particularly for me because he feels fatty liver, which I have, may be a cause of excess iron. Donating blood reduces the iron load.

tooyoung Wed Jan 12, 2011 7:28 am

jdp701 wrote:
idyes wrote:
jdp701 wrote:idyes,

Would recommend to donate blood as often as possible!

jdp701: is this a specific advice for my case, based on what you read about me?
or a general advice for MPB treatment?
if specific to me, could you briefly explain why?
Thanks

For you. Others on this forum would also benefit to varying degrees.

Some on this forum take ALA but would recommend blood donation for you especially. Will help with kidneys, liver, glucose, insulin resistance, calcification, oxidation, infections, etc. All from iron. Too much to post. Can google. It's been mentioned very briefly in past but few ever go through with it so I never post about it.

jdp, is it alright for people under 20 to donate blood? I think I remember CS saying it wasn't, but I really can't find that post at the moment.

ubraj Wed Jan 12, 2011 8:41 am

idyes wrote:
I think he implied YES for all but particularly for me because he feels fatty liver, which I have, may be a cause of excess iron.

Krill oil works well for fatty liver. However, recommended blood donation for you due to believing your connection between low carb diet and hair loss and age. Iron causes many issues.

tooyoung,

Wouldn't donate blood till done growing.

GreenPower Sun Jan 16, 2011 5:10 pm

After reading all this talk about how good blood donation was, I decided to give it a shot.

I only made it 40 seconds in until i started to turn white and pretty much turned zombie. The nurse said I barely made half a cup of blood. And after walking to the table of snacks, I fainted.

It took me 2 hours of slowly working my way to a walk before I could leave the donation clinic. Even after I had to take a 2 hour nap to try and bring myself together, but I was still weak.

Does anyone have any thoughts on this?

Is it simply because my blood pressure is low (I believe they measured 117/80 or something) or has this something to do with mineral imbalances within me?

Any help will be greatly appreciated from anyone on this forum.

9rugrats5 Mon Jan 17, 2011 7:53 pm

Long story short, Green, you are not in the pink of health. You should pay special attention to your diet, exercise, and socializing, in my opinion. Wish you speedy recovery to robustness.

-9r5-

masterfree Wed Jan 26, 2011 4:51 pm

jdp701 wrote:
idyes wrote:
I think he implied YES for all but particularly for me because he feels fatty liver, which I have, may be a cause of excess iron.

Krill oil works well for fatty liver. However, recommended blood donation for you due to believing your connection between low carb diet and hair loss and age. Iron causes many issues.

tooyoung,

Wouldn't donate blood till done growing.

I will start donating blood soon but just as aside note, my neighbor who also suffers from hair loss has been consistently and frequently been donating blood for some years, I can observer his hair loss is progressing still. I know he may have other issues but just wanted to share that.

crincrin Thu Jan 27, 2011 2:06 am

Men who donate blood have a lower risk of cardiovascular events.

BACKGROUND: The iron hypothesis suggests that females are protected from atherosclerosis by having lower iron stores than men, thus limiting oxidation of lipids. OBJECTIVE: To test the iron hypothesis by comparing cardiovascular event rates in whole blood donors compared with nondonors. DESIGN: Prospective cohort with telephone survey follow up. SETTING: The State of Nebraska, USA. PARTICIPANTS: A sample was selected from the Nebraska Diet Heart Survey (NDHS) restricting for age > or = 40 years and absence of clinically apparent vascular diseases at time of enrollment in to NDHS (1985-87). MAIN OUTCOME MEASURES: The occurrence of cardiovascular events (myocardial infarction, angina, stroke), procedures (angioplasty, bypass surgery, claudication, endarterectomy), nitroglycerin use, or death (all cause mortality), and level of blood donation. RESULTS: Participants were 655 blood donors and 3200 non-donors who differed in education, physical activity, diabetes, and frequency of antihypertensive treatment; 889 were lost to follow up. Sixty four donors and 567 non-donors reported cardiovascular events (crude odds ratio = 0.50, 95% confidence interval (CI) 0.38-0.66). The benefit of donation was confined to non-smoking males (adjusted odds ratio 0.67, 95% CI 0.45-0.99). Benefit was limited to current donors (the most recent three years). No additional benefit resulted from donating more than once or twice over three years. CONCLUSION: In support of the iron hypothesis, blood donation in non-smoking men in this cohort was associated with reduced risk of cardiovascular events. A randomised clinical trial is warranted to confirm these findings as the observed personal health benefit of donation has public policy ramifications.

jdp, when you say you donate blood at home, what do you do with it? I feel kind of bad just pouring my blood down the drain, lol. Also, aren't you worried about anemia, do you monitor your blood counts?

I personally have started donating blood once a year. I also plan to start donating plasma, although there are more potential problems with this.

br2011 Thu Jan 27, 2011 2:53 am

crincrin wrote:Men who donate blood have a lower risk of cardiovascular events.

BACKGROUND: The iron hypothesis suggests that females are protected from atherosclerosis by having lower iron stores than men, thus limiting oxidation of lipids. OBJECTIVE: To test the iron hypothesis by comparing cardiovascular event rates in whole blood donors compared with nondonors. DESIGN: Prospective cohort with telephone survey follow up. SETTING: The State of Nebraska, USA. PARTICIPANTS: A sample was selected from the Nebraska Diet Heart Survey (NDHS) restricting for age > or = 40 years and absence of clinically apparent vascular diseases at time of enrollment in to NDHS (1985-87). MAIN OUTCOME MEASURES: The occurrence of cardiovascular events (myocardial infarction, angina, stroke), procedures (angioplasty, bypass surgery, claudication, endarterectomy), nitroglycerin use, or death (all cause mortality), and level of blood donation. RESULTS: Participants were 655 blood donors and 3200 non-donors who differed in education, physical activity, diabetes, and frequency of antihypertensive treatment; 889 were lost to follow up. Sixty four donors and 567 non-donors reported cardiovascular events (crude odds ratio = 0.50, 95% confidence interval (CI) 0.38-0.66). The benefit of donation was confined to non-smoking males (adjusted odds ratio 0.67, 95% CI 0.45-0.99). Benefit was limited to current donors (the most recent three years). No additional benefit resulted from donating more than once or twice over three years. CONCLUSION: In support of the iron hypothesis, blood donation in non-smoking men in this cohort was associated with reduced risk of cardiovascular events. A randomised clinical trial is warranted to confirm these findings as the observed personal health benefit of donation has public policy ramifications.

jdp, when you say you donate blood at home, what do you do with it? I feel kind of bad just pouring my blood down the drain, lol. Also, aren't you worried about anemia, do you monitor your blood counts?

I personally have started donating blood once a year. I also plan to start donating plasma, although there are more potential problems with this.

I am donating plasma to earn some extra money, can you tell me what the potential problems are? Besides sitting in a waiting room filled with junkies of course.

crincrin Thu Jan 27, 2011 6:14 am

In blood donation blood is simply removed from the body.

In plasma donation, blood is removed, processed by a machine, and then red blood cells are returned to the body. Off the top of my head, these are some things I came across - there's a risk of conatmination; anticoagulant is added and at the very least, there's a risk of hypocalcemia (depends on the anticoagulant used, might be other potential problems with different anticoagulants); plasticizers and other substances can leech out of the storage containers and into the blood (more than you would think actually, pregnant women shouldn't donate plasma); all plasma components will be depressed for the first few months of plasma donation, but one study showed plasma donors have continually declining levels of IgM antibodies even three years out; IIRC I saw some reports of people who became severely immunocompromised after repeated plasma donation.

The one I'm really worried about is chemicals leeching into the blood. If you donate a frequently, this could be a problem, but I haven't read enough to say either way. Also, there are probably benefits to plasma donation. Ie, detoxification, removal of pollutants stuck in the plasma.

sanderson Sun May 20, 2012 9:27 am

crincrin wrote:In blood donation blood is simply removed from the body.

In plasma donation, blood is removed, processed by a machine, and then red blood cells are returned to the body. Off the top of my head, these are some things I came across - there's a risk of conatmination; anticoagulant is added and at the very least, there's a risk of hypocalcemia (depends on the anticoagulant used, might be other potential problems with different anticoagulants); plasticizers and other substances can leech out of the storage containers and into the blood (more than you would think actually, pregnant women shouldn't donate plasma); all plasma components will be depressed for the first few months of plasma donation, but one study showed plasma donors have continually declining levels of IgM antibodies even three years out; IIRC I saw some reports of people who became severely immunocompromised after repeated plasma donation.

The one I'm really worried about is chemicals leeching into the blood. If you donate a frequently, this could be a problem, but I haven't read enough to say either way. Also, there are probably benefits to plasma donation. Ie, detoxification, removal of pollutants stuck in the plasma.

this is an old thread, but hoping someone might be able to chime in. what would one have to do in order to detox/find out more about if they are negatively impacted by plasma donation? i never even know this was a possiblity.

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